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it's good to be back with you for this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, nikki haley says she's staying in, but will her donors stay with her? what's next for her as trump touts a powerful south carolina fire wall. tragedy overseas, a shocking video of the moment a russian plane crashes, killing dozens of ukrainian prisoners of war. why the kremlin is now blaming kyiv. plus, new evidence of how the war in gaza is impacting president biden's reelection bid.
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>> jill and i had a chance to sit down. >> how many kids -- [ chanting four more years ] >> and senator bob menendez says the fbi knocked down his doors and ransacked his home. his new fight to suppress evidence in the federal bribery case. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin in south carolina, where the next competitive gop contest takes place. nbc's ali vitali is there. how confident is haley that the donors will stick with her that she can afford to stay in? >> reporter: this may technically be next but of course republicans still have to go through nevada where that process is sort of split between a primary and a caucus. the caucus, of course, is something donald trump is almost assured to win. then the calendar moves on to south carolina, and although i'm standing here today, it's a month until voters actually go to the polls here. that's a long time for nikki haley to try to sustain the momentum that she's been able to push into this new year through
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iowa, through new hampshire, and now into her home state. she's doing it, though, by saying she's not going anywhere, assuring the political class, as well as her potential donors and already existing donors that she is in this fight until the very end now that it's down to a binary choice between nikki haley and donald trump. watch. >> well, i'm a fighter. [ applause ] and i'm scrappy, and now we're the last ones standing next to donald trump. >> and just a little note to nikki. she's not going to win. but if she did, she would be under investigation by those people in 15 minutes. and i could tell you five reasons why already.
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not big reasons. a little stuff that she doesn't want to talk about. >> reporter: so unfounded, vague, not sure what those allegations are that donald trump is trying to make there, but we've all watched him long enough to know, chris, that with trump, it's also the power of suggestion. putting something out there, factual or not, and then letting the media fact check him. but in the process, having to have repeated the initial lie in the first place. this is something that trump started when i first started covering him back in 2015. now we're likely to see him try to employ the same method in the latest election cycle, this time against his one last standing rival in nikki haley, but the other piece of this that i'm paying attention to is that south carolina's demographics have changed since nikki haley was last on the ballot here. her campaign and the sources around her remind me, and they're right, this is someone who knows the state of south carolina, a favorite daughter of the state, someone elected twice statewide. she does have conservative credentials here, and certainly
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she's going to be drawing on them, reminding voters in events like the one she's doing tonight, two more over the weekend. she's really going to be hitting the pavement here around the state of south carolina. she's also blanketing the air waves, $4 million in ads poured into the state of south carolina by the haley campaign alone, and she has the extra air and ground support from various pacs that are supporting her. they're with her, not just in south carolina, but all the way through super tuesday, at least that's what they're saying right now, chris. >> ali vitali, thank you. let's move overseas where dozens of p.o.w.s were reportedly killed in a plane crash. russia is actually as i understand it trying to blame ukraine for this crash. what do we know? >> that's correct, chris. we don't know a whole lot. i kind of begin that by pointing out where exactly this plane nt down. it went down on the russian side of the border, near the city of belgrade, it's a border town,
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really close to the ukrainian city of kharkiv. a lot of the earlier days of the war were focused in this region. since the early days, we're almost two years into the war now, belgrade is becoming increasingly central-focused to where fighting is happening. ukraine has pushed all the way back through kharkiv, back to the border. there's a lot going on here, and in the past few months, weeks, we have actually been seeing a lot of russian air craft being downed in the region, sort of suggesting that ukraine's capabilities may be evolving or changing or the russian air force is having a bad string of luck this late into the war. because of where it's gone down, this is part of the active war zone. russia has various phases of martial law along its border spaces. we're talking about a country that has a very strict media environment in good times. now in martial law in a war zone, we're not seeing a lot from the crash site. there's a lot of questions. namely were there ukrainian
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p.o.w.s on board. we're having to take the russians at their word for it. >> always tricky to take the russians at their word. matt bodner, keep us posted, thank you. president biden's unwavering support for israel is being tested by young voters as he runs for reelection. protesters repeatedly interrupted the president at a rally yesterday at a time when polls suggest that he is losing support among that key group of voters. what's the campaign have to say about that? >> reporter: the president of the united auto workers is going to endorse president biden at any moment. this is a very similar situation where it's a possibility at giant events where people want to express their feelings, want to express their position when
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it comes to the israel-hamas war, and the campaign is aware of that and the fact that that is not likely to stop anytime soon. yesterday, for instance, in the room, he was interrupted about 13 times over the course of a 20-minute speech, and the president acknowledged it at times saying, look, this appears to be a coordinated effort and i understand that, but then he forged ahead, and really wanted to put the focus on the reason for his remarks on abortion rights and reproductive freedom. today, similarly, there is this question, and just anecdotally, folk that is i talked to on the way in here, who are part of the union told me that some of them have reservations about the president's foreign policy, specifically that that is something they would like to communicate to the president. let's see what kind of way they want to decide to really make that message clear and whether they do that audibly here today or in some other way is an open question. it's something that campaign officials are certainly bracing for in terms of a continuation, but the president, the white
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house, the campaign have said they fully, fully believe that people have a right to express what they feel through the first amendment, do they wish, perhaps, that sometimes in these settings, it's not as disruptive, sure, but is it something they fully expect will continue and that they fully understand the reason for it. also, yes, this is a question now as the campaign really gears up into higher gear, and there are more and more public events like what we saw yesterday, and here today in terms of how they're going to handle it, and how they're going to respond to it. press secretary today was very clear that when asked if the president plans to meet with any protesters at events like yesterday, afterwards, she said there was nothing to preview but that certainly the campaign is aware of this, and wants to continue to have more conversations, and they know they need to go into communities where there are more arab american voters in particular in michigan. elsewhere in the midwest, something that has been a major question for their campaign, and
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i'm told that is something they're having high level conversations about with top surrogates and officials and ultimately the president himself in the weeks to come, chris. >> monica alba, thank you able to talk over shawn fain, the uaw president, while we're waiting to see if an endorsement comes the way of president biden today. indicted new jersey senator bob menendez is fighting to get solid gold bars and other evidence tossed out as evidence in his bribery case. tom winter is following this story for us. what's the argument that menendez is making here, tom? >> it's called a motion to suppress evidence. and basically what they're saying is that of the five search warrants that were served against senator menendez, e-mails, phone content, as well as a warrant at his home where these images, according to prosecutors were taken, and these gold bars that they have shown in their indictment that we're looking at right now were
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allegedly taken as well. the result of the search, all of this evidence, everything we're looking at should be tossed because they make allegations in their court documents, this is the defense attorneys for senator menendez that material omissions were made of exculpatory information, so in other words, they received information, the fbi, in the course of their investigation. menendez's attorneys argue that would have proven in their eyes that the senator was not involved in any illegal conduct. i can't share with you the specifics because they have redacted all in their filings, there are other redactions that have been made in separate filings and news organizations are attempt to go get those unredacted or allow us to look at the claims being made by menendez's attorneys. i spoke with danny cevallos, our legal analyst on the phone. we have been trading e-mails back and forth on case research, including exculpatory information is not necessarily a
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requirement some courts have determined. other courts have determined that not including that doesn't necessarily mean that the results of that search warrant should be suppressed. the big question is whether or not there were false filings or false assertions made in the course of the search warrants, and also whether or not there were material omissions of information that the fbi receives in the course of its investigation that could have changed whether or not that search warrant should have been filed or approved by the magistrate judge. so we'll wait to hear more from federal prosecutors who will have to respond to this. it's possible a judge could grant a hearing on the subject. all told, over 5,000 pages of search warrants filed in this case now, chris, involving 20 possible associates of the senator. >> 5,000 pages, tom winter, thank you for that. in 60 seconds, what the new hampshire results tell us and both campaigns about a likely trump-biden rematch in the fall. that's next. 's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday.
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president biden is treating 's decisive n hampshire victory as the starting gun for november tch. in fact, "the washington is already calling this the long est general election in history, not likely to be remembered for its uplifting spirit, and right on cue, the shots began to fly between the two. >> we have beaten biden, you could almost say who can't, who the hell can't. the man can't put two sentences together. >> i'm betting come november, we will vote in report numbers. and when we do that, we'll teach donald trump a valuable lesson, don't mess with america unless you want to get the benefit. >> biden is taking a fundraising
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from trump, including items featuring his mug shot. the president's team is offering more merch of its own, a t-shirt that reads together we will defeat donald trump. mike murphy is a long time gop strategist, advise tore john mccain, mitt romney, and arnold schwarzenegger, he's cohost with robert gibbs and david axle rod. peter baker is the chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." both are msnbc political analysts. i don't know, mike, are any of us ready for the longest general election in history. how do you run a campaign when so many voters don't like either of the candidates? >> that's the new situation we're in. it's going to be agony. you have two presidents, a former and current, both of which the voters want to fire. last time they couldn't wait to fire trump. so this is new painful
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territory. both campaigns are going to want to get the upper hand. biden, i think, holds the key because if he can move his numbers, if the economic news starts to get better later in the year, and there's early indicators, he may be able to reset the thing and take the focus off firing joe biden for frustration about the economy and on to donald trump the challenger. the challenger always wants to make it about the incumbent. this race will be about can biden make it about the challenger, trump. >> i'm looking at "the new york times" web site, peter and the headline right now is "biden and trump seek to portray a rematch as inevitable." you heard donald trump not happy that nikki haley is staying in the race. you know what's going on at the white house. they're moving a couple of key aides over to work in delaware on the reelect campaign. i'm trying to figure out why they're so anxious to get into the general election. what can you tell us? >> well, because, look, i mean,
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the reality is this is who we have to pick from, right. nikki haley did better i think last night than some of the polls had shown, but the pathway forward for her doesn't seem to be very promising, so, you know, let's just get it on, and the two of these men have it in for each other. joe biden said recently that the real reason he's running is because trump is running. if trump were not running, he's not sure that he, biden, would have decided to run for reelection. and clearly trump has something to prove against biden. trump said, who the hell can't beat biden. the guy who can't so far has been trump. he lost in 2020. he has something to prove by beating him this year, and to say i really beat him twice. yeah, they do have it in for each other, and they are now bringing the rest of the country into their grudge match. >> mike, nikki haley says she's staying in, and as she does, democratic strategists say biden is gaining valuable information about the republican voters who may be open to voting against
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trump and i want to have you listen to barack obama's former campaign manager, david plouffe. >> if i was running a campaign, there's 40 to 45% of republicans in every state, most of them will vote for trump, but we can go communicate to them on the economy, on democracy, on abortion, on trump's, you know, instability. so it's a really really rich thing to build that kind of data model that these primaries are revealing is available potentially to the biden campaign. >> generally we say that the truly persuadable voter is very very small, but the people who turn campaigns are a tiny percentage of the overall electorate. when you have what appears to be, if you look at the polls, a lesser of two evils campaign, does that number widen? are there more people out there who are available to switch to choose? >> yes, i think it will because they're so unhappy with the two options.
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but the danger, particularly to joe biden, is they start going off. they don't like trump. they don't like biden. they cannot vote for trump, unhappy with biden, so they go off into third-party land and essentially waste their vote. biden is going to need a lot of voters who don't like him but don't like trump more. but, yes, that pool is expanding. as far as nikki is concerned, emotionally, i would love to see her go from south carolina to trump. from her point of view, it's going to be tough and up hill. she needed to win new hampshire, rocket home to south carolina, beat trump twice in a row. knock them back, and restart the race, and that did not happen in new hampshire. so i think south carolina going to her home state to get beat again will be hard, and the pressure she'll be under from the sadly, in my view, compromised leadership of the republican party to get out is going to build to a fever pitch over the next few weeks. so i'm not sure she'll still be in the new hampshire race in ten days, i'm sad to say.
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>> well, peter, ron desantis, who endorsed, of course, trump, nevertheless has made a few shots at him. and he is talking about a reason that he thinks trump is so difficult to beat. let's listen. >> and then i think what happened is thegg indictment and the other indictments, you know, really created a rallying effect to him. i think he had strong support from fox and conservative media. and so structurally that was just something that was very difficult to deal with. >> so whether or not you believe that's the reason he lost the race, trump seems to believe his legal woes, peter, can continue to be a positive for him. in fact, he even brought his lawyer, elena habba on stage, you can see her there. once he tried to win a general election, and not a primary, could it backfire with moderate voters and independents, if you're going to lean into your legal woes and grievances about the indictments? >> i think the conventional
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wisdom that came out of last year, is that these indictments helped him. i think you're right to point out they helped with republican voters, base voters, people that he had already had a connection with, and he told them this is all part of a witch hunt, and they agreed with him and decided to rally to his defense. that's not a prescription for winning over moderate, middle or people who are uncertain or may not not like biden but have not voted for trump before. it's not really a bragging point in a general election, i was indicted on 91 counts, vote for me. we'll see whether that turns off the people he needs to win over in order to win a general election. there are polls showing that a certain number of even his own supporters would change their minds about voting for him if he's actually convicted in one of these cases. it's a small number, but you only need a small number in battleground states to win. there's only going to be about six states that matter. even a small change could be impactful. so we'll see whether that actually holds or not, you know,
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tribal politics being what they are, people manage to decide, stick with their party no matter what. you're right to say we don't know how this is going to impact a general election. >> peter baker, mike murphy, we'll have a lot to talk about in the months and months and months ahead. thank you, guys, appreciate it. the rare case putting the mother of a high school gunman on trial for the deaths of the students he killed. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.
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it took a jury less than two hours to deliver a guilty verdict against the new york man who shot and killed a woman inside a car that accidentally went up his driveway. kevin monahan had claimed that the fatal shot was an accident and that the gun had fired spontaneously when he tripped on his porch. his lawyer described him as quote, an old man who was terrified that people were coming to attack him and his wife. the jury rejected that explanation and found him guilty of second-degree murder in the death of 20-year-old kay len gillis. they were on their way to a friend's party when they pulled in the drive way by mistake. a rare attempt to hold the parents of a school shooter criminally responsible for those deaths. jury selection is underway at the involuntary manslaughter trial of jennifer crumbly. her son ethan killed four students and injured seven others at oxford high school in
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2021. just a day before the shooting, the school informed his mother that ethan was looking at ammunition. she later texted to him writing, i'm not mad, you have to learn not to get caught. joining me now, defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. this is rare, going after parents. this is kind of a whole new world. how strong is the prosecution case here? >> it's not an automatic rule that parents are always liable, criminally or civilly for the bad things that their children do. ordinarily, you have to show that there was either some voluntary act or voluntary omission. and the key here is causation. is what the parents are alleged to have done or failed to do the direct cause of these horrific shootings, or is there son's independent choice to go shoot people in a school, does that cut off the causation of what his parents did. yes, this is a very rare instance of holding parents
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responsible, but other laws in other states have helped parents responsible criminally and civilly for what their children do when they are actively involved. and what they did is really a factor in bringing about the harmful result, whether it's being out past curfew or in very rare instances as here, possibly a case of involuntary manslaughter. >> yeah, what they knew seems to be the heart of what they're prosecuting, not just the fact that they knew, they were informed that he was searching for ammunition online. but they found a note on his desk, this is the school, with a drawing of a gun and a person who was shot just three days after the father bought him a gun. is that enough to say the parents should have known is the question? >> yeah, let's take the defense case. i can tell you right now, the defense case is going to be to spread the blame around. it might even be for the defendants here, the mother and the father to point the fingers
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at each other, even if they don't really mean to, for purposes of their defense, they may have to, and that may include pointing the finger at their son. they may seek to call the son to come to the stand, it was all me. i didn't tell them anything. the state has evidence in the form of text messages, evidence in the form of meetings with school officials. that's all going to come in. the defendants are going to point to the school officials and say, they were involved. they bear some responsibility. the other parent does. my son potentially does. and they're going to focus on the things they did do to try and help their son to demonstrate to a jury and to the court that, look, whatever we did, we did not cause this. we certainly didn't intend to, but we did what we could do, such that we shouldn't be held responsible for our acts, and really what we're talking about here is omissions, for failing to act in the face of the red flags. >> jennife wants ethan
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to testify. they will encourage him not to testify. what do you make of that? why? >> it's what i would recommend for my client if my client were ethan crumbley. you should not testify, if there is an appellate issue and he hasn't exercised his appellate rights you, may compromise that by taking the stand and testifying, and certainly taking the stand and pointing your finger at yourself just to save your parents. that is the default advice i would give someone who was in the same position as ethan crumbley. if you're renting the parents, you want you want anyone and everyone who will come in and point the finger in another direction other than what you did or what you failed to do. >> danny cevallos, always good to have you here. thank you so much. we want to go back to that meeting of the uaw because it is official now, the president of the uaw, shawn fain saying the uaw is endorsing joe biden as
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president of the united states. you'll remember, he actually joined auto workers in a first ever for a president on the picket lines in wayne county, michigan. in addition to that, 380,000 members represented there at this meeting, powerful voting bloc in some key states, michigan, wisconsin, battle ground states, but also people who can man phones and go door to door. and shawn fain took an opportunity to really go after donald trump. he said donald trump is a scab, a billionaire, and that's who he represents. he doesn't care about the american auto worker. instead of trash talking about our union, joe biden stood with us. he said our endorsement must be earned, and then just a couple of minutes ago, he gave the official uaw endorsement to joe biden. one more note, the folks were shouting, joe, joe, joe. this is very early.
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uaw waits awhile, many months before they would normally endorse. as we have been saying, this is going to be a very very long campaign. federal officials have arrested an accused january 6th rioters who was prominently featured in an infamous photo used in news reports and a biden campaign ad. the suspect releasing original chemical spray, charged 700 days after online sleuths helped identify him. nbc's ryan reilly is following all of this as he always does for us. the obvious question is what took so long? >> it's interesting. there are hundreds of people in the same sort of category. the reason that the sleuths put a lot of attention into this one is they were frustrated with how long this was taking and how violent this act was. they gave that identification to the fbi at the end of 2021. it's been more than two years since they gave that to them. they really did an expert job of tracking exactly who he was, and we're following him all along
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the way and keeping up with his social media accounts, and in fact, one of the things that frustrated the sleuths is this guy was going on vacations when he had never been charged or arrested in connection with this event. they took a ski vacation at one point, and photos on a boat on instagram. that's something that irritated the sleuths as well. he was not held accountable, not charged until recently. he was someone we focused on in our anniversary piece, and i spoke with one of the sleuths who said they were hoping for action on him soon. they have a lineup of these cases that are just waiting, and really there's less than two years left in the statute of limitations that expires on the five-year anniversary of the attack which took place in 2026, chris. >> ryan reilly, thank you for that. and still to come, two new and concerning reports about treating cancer. how one of the most trusted sources for research is now being called into question. that's great. i know, i've bee telling everyone.
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from lowering housing costs to fighting climate change. shake up the senate - with democrat katie porter. i'm katie porter and i approve this message. two days and two frightening headlines for people dealing with the trauma of cancer diagnosis. first, the fda is now requiring drug makers to add a label to one treatment warning it could actually includes a person's risk of cancer. on top of that, the prestigious cancer institute will be contracting six studies and correcting 31 others after allegations of data manipulation. joining us now, dr. vin gupta,
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affiliate assistant professor at the institute for health metrics and evaluation and an msnbc medical contributor. wow, vin, dana farber has been considered a gold standard for cancer research so this news is deeply disturbing. what do we need to understand about what happened here? >> well, chris, this is the new world that we live in where previously authoritative studies in major medical journals that were beyond reproach because they were published by major authorities, the senior executives at dana-farber are being challenged. we can see in this case images suggesting cancer treatments and their efficacy, whether or not they were distorted. in this case, the evidence suggests that key images in these seminole images were distorted. why does that matter in the public? these images are suggesting a certain treatment works to treat cancer in mice models or mouse
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models. so if we're fundamentally distorting the images and the nature of the results, then there's no authoritative voice anymore. the journals and perhaps now these citations in these journals, the whole process now is falling on its face here. that's the worry here. but that now every researcher needs to know that there is ai, and there are tools to prove whether or not something is truly authentic or not. hopefully this injects some degree of integrity back into the system. >> i just was wondering how doctors are supposed to deal with this. if you're someone, and we hope all doctors are, who keeps up with the latest research, who bases treatment suggestions on that research, now what, i'm going to guess they're going to get some questions. >> oh, absolutely. and now i think fundamentally to your point, there's a peer review process, peers look at this data, they assess whether or not it's authentic, whether it's real. but if there's subtle manipulations to images or to
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data that might escape peer review process, then some things are just not going to be detectable with the human eye. that's where the technologies are going to be key. so the peer review process needs to change, leverage, to make sure we don't publish anything in the future that might have been distorted. >> dr. vin gupta, always good to have you on the program, thank you. if the message of the billionaire block buster movie "barbie" is that women can achieve greatness, voting members of the academy of motion pictures may not have gotten the memo, at least according to fans. they're furious because the women who directed and starred in the movie were not nominated for oscars. >> this is one of the biggest snub oscar lineups i have never seen. >> the online reaction ranging from incredibly saointing to bitterly ironic, oscar host jimmy kimmel said the snub was
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an update now to that story we brought you last hour about the leaked audio that appeared to reveal a bribe trying to get kari lake to bow out of the arizona senate race. the man whose voice appeared to be on the recording offering the bribe, chairman of the state republican party, jeff dewitt has now resigned. although he says that tape was selectively edited and taken out of context. he says lake's team threatened to release a new more damaging recording if he didn't, and says he's concerned that lake has recorded other sensitive private phone calls, speculating she likely has ones that include her discussions with former president trump as well.
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right now, a man hunt is intensifying for those two inmates who escaped an arkansas detention center this week. one of them a capital murder suspect. nbc's blayne alexander is following this story for us. blayne, these inmates, might have been gone for 48 hours before someone even noticed they were missing? >> yeah, chris, officials don't know exactly how they escaped or perhaps more shockingly, when they escaped, but as you said, they said they could have been gone as long as 48 hours before. they were discovered 10:30 central time. they say any time within the two prior days they could have escaped. this happened in pine bluff, arkansas, at a county detention center, about 40 miles outside of little rock. again, officials say these are two men, one of whom is wanted for capital murder, the other who is wanted on residential burglary charges, as well as several other charges. this of course raises a number of pressing questions, chris,
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including how far could they have gotten, how far did they travel away, and of course, how were they able to go as long as 48 hours without someone noticing they were missing. this is important to know if you're in the area or the surrounding area, they could have traveled some distance by now, these men are considered dangerous. do not approach them if you see them. they say they should only be approached by law enforcement, chris. >> blayne alexander, thank you for that. well, today the ohio senate is expected to override governor mike dewine's veto of legislation that restricts medical care for transgender minors. it would also block transgender girls from female sports. that would make ohio the 23rd state with restrictions on woul girls from female sports. that would make ohio the 23rd state with restrictions on transition related care, the 25th to limit participation of trans student athletes. maggie vespa is covering this story for us. what are we hearing, maggie? >> this is still going on right
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now. we are at well over a dozen lawmakers in ohio who have been giving presentations as to whether they will or will not vote to override the dwrn's bill. it will ban all gender affirming care. we're hearing a lot of what we expected from conservative and liberal lawmakers, republicans and democrats about why they plan to override the veto and effectively ban transgender health care, gender affirming care for children in that state. here is just one example thrks is actually the first lawmaker to speak earlier today of what we're hearing on this. take a listen. >> despite what the liberals say, gender is not assigned at birth but rather from the moment of conception, you are either male or you are female. and there is no such thing as
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gender affirming care. you can't affirm something that doesn't exist. >> again, that was the first lawmaker to speak here in ohio. just to give background on this speech. a number of people defending the trans people saying children should have access to this kind of care and therapy. to give the background on this bill here, house bill 68 was vetoed last month by republican governor mike dewine who draws the line in ohio at surgery. he said that his take was that families should be able to make the distinction as to whether their child should be able to get therapy, hormone blocks. when it comes to surgery, he has issued an executive order banning that for anyone under the age of 18 in the state of ohio. he veto that had bill with that kind of distinction in place. we could a full ban on transgender therapy in ohio.
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this is being streamed live right now in case anybody wants to watch this history go down in realtime. chris. >> maggie vespa, thank you. a new iphone software update that will make it a lot harder for thieves to steal your data, even if they grab your phone. we'll explain next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc.
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johnson & johnson says it has reached a major settlement over claims it misled customers about the safety of its talc baby powder. they will pay $700 million to resolve investigations launched by 42 states and washington, d.c. . notably, the deal does not settle tens of thousands of consumer lawsuits alleging their baby powder and talc-based products caused cancer. some soft those lawsuit wills go to trial this year. a major security update for
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iphone users. apple has a new high-tech way to protect all the personal information we keep on our phones from thieves and hackers. nbc's stephanie gosk is following this. i overhear these conversations all the time, all your stuff is out there. you can't bring it back, but iphone is saying -- >> this update is about a specific and insidious crime. it's all about your pass code, that four or most often six-digit code you put in your phone. thieves in major cities around the country have been targeting vulnerable people, often drunk people at bars at night getting their pass codes, and once you have that, you can get at your apple i.d., you can get of the your icloud key chain. you can change your face i.d., and in some cases, not all of this reporting coming from wall street journal reporter who has just uncovered it all and pushed apple, joanna stern, what they are now going stood lean into
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biometrics, so the passcode will not allow you to get into as many things to change them as quickly, if you opt into this security option. what does that mean? so instead of using your pass cord to change your apple i.d., you use your face i.d. or your touch i.d., and with some of these settings, this is a really interesting part of this, and it might be an annoying one for some, but it adds more protection, you will have to -- if you're at home or at work, in other words in a familiar location, your phone will ask you for your face i.d. or your touch i.d. to change a particular setting. let's say your apple i.d. in this case. you then have to wait an hour and put it in again to actually be able to change it. which is an inconvenience to be sure, but adds a layer of protection because these thieves were stealing tens of thousands of dollars in some cases from people in just a matter of hours. >> so you could opt in or opt out. >> yes. >> if you -- if you're very
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careful with your pass code, you don't use it in public. maybe you've changed it to numbers and letters, you might think this doesn't really apply to me f you're out trolling the bars and find yourself in vulnerable moments, i'm not suggesting you are, you might think i'm not as safe as i necessarily need to be, i'm in these situations. perhaps i should add this extra layer of security. >> fascinating stuff, stephanie gosk, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. ♪♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur. last night it only took 11 minutes after polls closed for nbc news to call the new hampshire primary for donald trump. on its face, that looks great for the former president, showing once again that he dominates among

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