elsewhere for months. you watch "the beat" we don't show you national polls. they're irrelevant. here is how the new hampshire polls fared. three months and they were off by 28 points. three months out is not a long time in politics. it is close to the election. you are hearing in the fall, haley was way behind. a month out, they were about 18 points off. a week out, the race narrowed, they were still six points off which can be a big, big margin, can make a poll wrong in the sense that if it's inside that six points, you were told someone would win by three and lose by three. new hampshire shows as so many places do that the polls are merely a guide and definitely not predictive of anything. if you're not seeing other places tell you how bad their polls were, maybe they don't want you to know. thank you for spending time with us on "the beat." "the reidout" with joy reid

starts now. ♪♪ tonight on "the reidout" -- >> with donald trump, republicans have lost almost every competitive election. we lost the senate. we lost the house. we lost the white house. we lost in 2018. we lost in 2020. and we lost in 2022. the worst kept secret in politics is how badly the democrats want to run against donald trump. >> haley presses on despite impossible odds. she has the support of the billionaire donor class want all the trump tax cuts for the super rich but can't stomach donald trump. plus, with biden's economy doing so well, all republicans have left to offer is fear, including fear of immigrants. tonight, a look at how the issue is playing in the latino

community. >> and we begin tonight with fascism and how it takes root. now it isn't a dramatic storm the palace coup like we saw on january 6th. it's more often deal, a bargain between the would be dictator and the establishment, both political and media, who believe that wielding actual political power will take him -- it's usually what we often -- it will tame him. it's actually what we often get wrong about fascism in describing the connections between inter-war europe and the present day, we have this image in our heads of the fascist rise to power that comes from fascist propaganda, but it is much more political than that. in the new book, rick pearl steen notes the role of responsible conservatives who made their peace with the strong man believing he could b

controlled. germany's that made adolph hitler the chancellor. the people around pap voiced their concerns about putting hitler in power, he says in two months we'll pushed hitler so far in the corner that he'll squeal. this is the phenomenon of elites who become supplements of the fascist leader. remember what lindsay graham tweeted in 2016 when trump was still an outlier in the party. i do. quote, if we nominate trump, we will get destroyed. and we will deserve it. when trump won the white house any way, graham got busy reducing himself to a maga foot stool in the u.s. senate. proximity to power will do that. like trump, hitler was also viewed as a clown, a goon who could be kept in line. and then there are the accommodations that the media makes with autocracy. in november 19, '22, "new york

times" gave their first glimpse of hitler, a profile of a early rise in bavaria in germany got a key point very right. asserting that, quote, hitler's anti-semitism was not so violent or g as it sounded. before he rose to power, hitler staged a coup. it was a coup that failed. sound familiar? hitler went to prison for it. but the failed coup set the stage for nazi germany. and when he was freed from prison, just over a year after the failed push, the times offered this unfortunate and incorrect assessment that hitler had been tamed by prison. the next year, so much of this sounds familiar. and believe me, i wish it didn't. the same thing happened with a lot of other autocrats. the establishment thing that is a can be controlled and poof, they're stuck with them. the thought that these men could be tamed is what we're seeing right now in the presidential election year. politicians, journalists and voters speak of a dangerous

person getting reigned in once back in power. and those who are legitimately afraid of this outcome are being quiet about it. last week, the annual meeting of the world economic forum in davos switzerland brought together thousands of participants from around the globe. the davos consensus is in. trump will win the election based solely off of polls, headlines and mood. but executives could only refer to their prediction as a geopolitical risk yet privately per reporting cnbc andrew ross sorkin they were far more explicit saying they are frustrated, upset, worried and nervous about a second trump presidency. they don't want to say this outloud for the same respondent's exhibit as last time. fear of retribution. these people, let this be clear, despise the m arc ga base but they also fear them. so they say let's just make common cause. he'll sign the bills we give him. we get the tax cuts,

conservative court and rulings to ban abortion and affirmative action, we just need to control him. after, ok, bringing him to power. you don't get more establishment than the party chair, ronna mcdaniel said this on fox last night. >> i do think there's a message coming out for the voter which is is very clear. we need to unite around our eventually nominee which is going to be donald trump. >> the final piece of this puzzle are the voters who crave an autocrat. trump and people like him appeal to a group of americans who hate the modern multicultural and liberal secular society they live in. and they imagine if the real secret majority wasn't being thwarted by a secret kabul of swamp creatures and communist libs they would win. they think the real secret majority wants a theocracy like they do and hates immigrant and fears lgbtq people like they do. majority doesn't. last night the new hampshire results showed that trump is

clearly going to be the nominee, but independents, college educated voters and republicans who are unwilling to dishis trump's legal jeopardy voted in large numbers for his rival and former employee, nikki haley. these are not great numbers for a former president who is essentially running as an incumbent. it's not even clear maga politics or majority of their own party. so many republicans are either passive or afraid. they've just let maga take over while the autocrat enablers gaslight you into trying to make you believe that trump is king. >> this is a referendum on the republican party. and that's something i'll be saying in my speech tonight. this is a true change for the republican party. it says that not only do we support president trump, we support his policies. and any republican that isn't willing to adapt these policies, we are completely eradicating from the party. >> did you ever think that she

actually appointed you, tim? and think of it, appointed and you're the senator of her state and she endorsed me. you must really hate her. no. it's a shame. it's a shame. huh oh. >> i just love you. >> no, that's good. >> that's why he's a great politician. >> joining me now is david jolly, former congressman and msnbc analyst, and ruth, professor of history and author of "strong men" mussolini to the present. there is this notion that happened in a mussolini's italy and in adolph hitler's germany, the establishment, whether the establishment of politicians or prez said, let's let him take power. he'll be better once he's in

office. i feel like i see the same thing happening again now. sort of rationalizing that no, no, no, we made it through the first term. the system will hold. let's let him back in. i'm seeing it broadly. what do you make of it? >> yeah. you're right to see it again. and it's total bad faith. it's one of the reasons i wrote "strong men" was to show the destruction and devastation that authoritarians cause and the concept i worked with in the book is authoritarian bargains. you mentioned something like this in your opening. the deals. and there's a lot of corruption involved. but, elites, financial, political, other business elites think that they're going to profit from staying quiet with the strong men. only when it's too late do they realize what a price they and the country has paid. and what's interesting, not just the famous cases of mussolini and hitler who were brought in by conservative elites, even

when there's a coup, like in chi lsh e, this is one of the case studies that most affected me when i wrote the book, in chile, the conservative christian democrats actually thought after the coup that he would restore order and give power back to them in a few months. and of course that didn't happen. and the head of the christian democrats started speaking out against the junta and he was poisoned. he died when he went into the hospital. so, that's the morality tale. that sums up the terrible fates these people have. it's sad for me as an american to see this happening with so many elites who should know better. >> speaking of elites who know better, absolutely. john cornyn, texas senator, he endorsed trump. last year he said that trump actually couldn't win. this is what cornyn said in 2023. i think president trump's time

has passed him by. i don't think president trump understands when you run in a general election, you have to appeal to voters beyond your base. this boils down to electability. i have been through quite a few elections in your life there's no prize for coming in second, in other words losing. he joined 30 total senate republicans in endorsing donald trump. >> yeah, joy. i think john cornyn would say exactly the same thing today that donald trump is not the republican party's strongest candidate against joe biden. but i think what it reflects and the reason that the framing of this conversation you're having now is so important is it has become obvious the trajectory of trump's authoritarianism rise. what i mean by that is consider in 2016, as he secured the nomination, there were a lot of people who were not ready to endorse him. marco rubio, ted cruz, paul ryan, leaders were not ready to endorse him. even the party said some voters, should i vote for hillary clinton instead of donald trump. there was this reticence, this

hesitation. he gets elected. by 2020 i think you saw the full bargain in place. even protagonists adam kinzinger admitted they voted for donald trump's re-election, at that point he cemented his grip on the party. think what we're seeing right now and what has been so telling in iowa and new hampshire, is donald trump's complete taming of the party and of the movement. consider how quickly tim scott, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy, others turn around and endorse donald trump and say he's the person we need to lead us. consider the voters, how quickly they now take what he says as biblical. in the iowa exit poll that suggested two thirds of voters say that 2020 election was a fraud. that is a complete taming of the party and the movement. i think that's the danger. donald trump reaches for extra constitutional authority. when he argues perfect immunity in court or gets re-elected and says i don't need to abide by

the constitution, the movement is now fully with him without any hesitation whatsoever. >> no one wants to be the last one to say yes to the dictator. nobody wants to be viewed as the last one. so they genuflect, humiliate themselves as tim scott and ramaswamy did. they have all taken the knee. donald trump, ruth, is not being subtle anymore. you know, he's not playing crazy like, oh, i'm just accidentally saying i might be a dictator. he is praising other autocrats and strong men and saying, think of me as being like them. here he is. he did this a lot over the last week, praising someone he would like to emulate. viktor orban. >> there's a great man, a great leader in europe, viktor orban. he's the prime minister of hungary. very strong man, some people don't like him because he's too strong. it's nice to have a strong man running your country. very tough man.

viktor orban. have you ever heard of him? he's the prime minister of hungary, right, good. prime minister of hungary. very respected. >> you look at what viktor orban, the prime minister of hungary said, bring trump back. everything worked when trump was there. >> ruth, autocrats referencing each other. >> yeah. i'm laughing because trump had a long -- always had a thing for viktor orban had him in the white house in 2019, he said it's like we're twins. but here the clip was that, you know, the reason orben is so great is he's backing trump. it's always self interested. but trump's been educating the american population to see authoritarian leaders as, you know, positive models. even the worst murders, like the leader of north korea, or one party state xi jinping. and these are people who rule by

corruption, by violence, repression, lying to their people and he's holding these people up as positive models because they have what he wants, which is immunity. they cannot be prosecuted. they have total power. and that's a very scary thing. >> yeah. and you know, david, we can't look past the fact that as tom nickels said, it's not him, it's them. he has a base of people that actually want this. they want a dictator because, as i mentioned in the open, they think there's some secret kabul that's stopping them from getting the things they want, the theocracy they want, the rule out of the old testament that they want. you know, lgbtq people being barred from public life they want. they think they are the real majority, they're not. the only way to make sure they still win any way is a dictator. they want it. >> that's right. and the numbers are really incredible. within the republican party, i think there are signs obviously that donald trump and the general election may not have the support, certainly not of the popular vote.

he might have an electoral college win. but the popular vote of the country is not necessarily behind him. but the republican party is. i know as we kind of parse the results out of new hampshire, we suggest maybe it was close. the reality is 7 out of 10 nikki haley voters weren't republicans. donald trump got 75% of the republican voters in new hampshire. that party is with him. and the way he launched this cultural movement, joy, to your point, is he got very personal when he started in '16. he said, they're coming for your way of life. your privilege, your whiteness, your economics. they're coming for you. and they're taking that from you. and so, it was a cultural movement, a resistance. but i think where it gets very dangerous is if somebody is coming for your way of life, you now get to fight back. and the end result is something like january 6th. >> yeah. indeed. well said. david jolly, ruth, thank you both very much. very important to have these conversations. so, you guys are very much appreciated. and up next on "the

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if you are an american oligarch with tons of cash to burn and you had it with donald trump, what would your dream

candidate look like? it would probably be someone with governing experience, whose already dependent on you for their lifestyle, someone who sounds a lot like nikki haley. the republican candidate who "the washington post" noted after leaving government in 2018 improved her financial position dramatically, making millions from private consulting, paid speeches, and spots on corporate boards. because her hawkish pro-business policies speak for your issues, if you're a billionaire, right? she is pro drilling, pro military industrial complex and willing to sign a national abortion ban but bears her position on mealy mouth answers about consensus. in other words, she's a normy right wing blank slate for the donor class, like the charles koch-backed super pac that raised $70 million to stop trump and since endorsed and funded nikki haley. probably goes a long way toward explaining why haley says she is

staying in the race despite finishing distant second to trump in new hampshire. >> this race is far from over. there are dozens of states left to go. and the next one is my sweet state of south carolina. >> while much of the oligarch class is coming to terms with donald trump's inevitability, nikki haley's well of billionaire support may not be running dry just yet. according to bloomberg, a group of wall street billionaires plan to post new hampshire fundraiser for her in new york city next week. for whatever reason, they don't want another four years of president biden, even though his economy is strong in lining their pockets. because really get down to it, it was biden who had the best night of all of them on tuesday. winning the democratic primary handily beating another board donor class type

multimillionaire congressman dean phillips by more than 40 points, without even being on the ballot. joining me now is david plouffe, former obama campaign manager and white house senior adviser and christina greer, host of "the blackest questions podcast." thank you both for being here. david, i want to start with you. because to me, it is kind of clear -- we're talking on our show call this morning that it really is a choice between three things. autocracy, oligarchy and biden, right? because let me just give you a few of billionaires that a supporting -- that are pitching nikki haley as an alternative. you had the tickets to nikki haley wall street fundraiser going for as much as 33,000. billionaire ken langone is the latest gop mega donor to enforce nikki haley. jamie dimon help nikki haley.

i could go on. so, right, can you understand why the billionaire class is backing haley as an option rather than just stick with the guy who is making them money, joe biden. >> yeah. it's a curious question, joy. first of all, haley finally like the biden with the ninth inning with two outs is starting to make a more compelling case against trump. she made this case all along, perhaps she would be in a stronger position. donors should have been there months ago, too. so i think that very late, you know, at the end of the day, the only exit ramp available to the american people in this country, to prevent donald trump's next term which may be the last term in this democracy, for a president, is joe biden. haley has no ability. the only way nikki haley could be the republican nominee is if donald trump had a serious enough health issue, march, april after she has gotten some

delegates. that's it. so that's the only road out of town is joe biden. so it will be interesting whether hale-y gets out right before south carolina because she doesn't want to be embarrassed by 30 or 40 points in her home state or gets out sometime in march, once we get to winner take all contest after mid march. it will be interesting to see what these donors do. some of them, you're seeing already begin to rationalize, trump won't be so bad. it's all bark and no bite. but everything we have seen, in terms of the plans, the types of people he wants to hire, what he's saying, his admiration and love affair for orban and xi and putin, we give him a redo, he wants to model himself on those autocratic country. >> you can see the beef what they have with biden. although their stocks are soaring, you know, wall street looks great, they're making lots of money, you know, stephanie ruhle pointed out, you know, their mediocre son chad can't

get into harvard and they blame black people. they're made about dei. biden's policies are working for them, but they don't like the atmospherics of liberalism around this. he is a very pro-union president. what they have seen is this rise of labor under biden. we have a video of him walking the picket line when the autoworkers went on strike. he's that guy. for them, he represents the triumph of labor because labor is also making more money and they don't like that. >> no. and i mean, you know, they're dabbling into social wars, as you know you and stephanie pointed out. it's definitely they hate dei, whatever wokeness is, various definitions, even though the economy is strong and pockets are being lined. so we have -- the question is nikki haley going to drop out. she drops out when the money dries up. the money isn't drying up thus far because these megabillionaires do need an off ramp. she is going to be the last person standing.

we know donald trump cannot stand women. he definitely can't stand women of color. i know doesn't want to say she's a woman of color, she is. so she will feel the ire of donald trump sooner rather than later. pu why get out? right? on the back end she'll write a book, get a television deal, get money for speaking engagements. why jump out. yes, it will be embarrassing that you'll lose south carolina since almost ever republican elected endorsed donald trump. but she still gives many republicans a hope that their nominee won't be someone who is devolving into delusions of grandeur, authoritarian and the like. so, i'm definitely worried about our democracy, but it's not surprise that the billionaires haven't jumped ship. >> she won't want to get humiliated in south carolina, the longer she stays in, there's

utility to her being in for biden. the more that donald trump birthers her attacks her because she's a woman of cor, attacks her family and that kdf thing, the more independts go, whoa. and it helps, right, that it kind of keeps them away. and so she could stay in. just put the calendar up here. super tuesday is not until march 5th. she could hang around, february 24th. at least she has about 30 days to kind of wear trump out a little bit and trigger him. you know, which is helpful. but on the other side, she is their perfect 2028 candidate that hides the oligarch y in a more pleasant shield if we have a democracy in 2028. >> big if. we don't know what she's thinking. she may not be thinking about '28. she may be thinking about, you know, more boards and book deals, as you said. i don't know what her future holds. but, i do think what's interesting is she clearly angered trump yesterday. the campaign's plan last night was not for him to go out and

give the dumbest, worst victory speech in recent american political history, maybe ever. and so, i'm sure to haley, i can get under his skin. if she does stay in for another two months, one, he shouldn't, he should ignore her. he won't. and that's not a great look. it reminds a lot of voters out there what they don't like about trump. and then of course, what it reveals is in every state a lot of voters -- and these are not general election voters. it's worth reminding your voters. these are the hard core of the republican party showing up in primaries and still a big percentage of them are saying they either are choosing a candidate or saying they don't want to vote for trump. so, in a world where you can model individuals quite successfully and say, okay, the people that look just like those voters in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, who live in georgia and wisconsin and pennsylvania, the biden campaign can reach out to them. that's super important. >> yeah. >> very quick question to you as

we close, christina greer, why is tim scott? >> you know, joy, i've stopped thinking about tim scott. he has to answer to the ancestors. there is no bottom to the republican party. we say this all the time. clearly tim scott, we're dealing with people who have no shame. and when you have no shame and you have no real sense of a compass, we get the tim scotts of the world. so, he's vying for a role in the administration, maybe the vice presidency, which will not happen. and so, we see again, the devolution of people and their dignity and their principles and morals. it's -- the surprise is there's no surprise with tim scott. >> yeah. very sad. his house will be haunted by the ancestors. david plouffe and christina greer, thank you. still ahead, tough-talking republican congressman urged texas to ignore a supreme court order granting federal authorities access to the border. basically daring border patrol agents to try it. we'll be right back. agents to tt we'll be right back.

there is no better example of what ga world wants for the rest of america than texas. a total ban on abortion. draconian measures mnt to secure the border. which includes letting migrants a mother a her two children drown. setting up buoys with buzz saws, barring federal agents from assisting with border patrol and passing legislation that makes

it a state crime to cross the border. according to governor greg abbott, the only reason they aren't shooting migrants as they cross the border is because evil joe biden would, quote, charge us with rder. call me old fashion, isn't that because it actually is murder? the bare majority of the supreme court allowed the biden administration to order border patrol agents to remove razor wire barriers along the rio grandee. chip roy told fox news texas should tell the court, quote, go to hell. you defend yourself and figure it out later. here is the thing that congressman roy forgets to mention. he's a member of a guy and party that could actually do something about immigration. they just refuse to do it because many republicans now see calling for zero tolerance on the border as the only way to animate their base. let's just be honest. it came in close second behind the economy as the top issue among republican voters in new hampshire. only shares a border with canada. it's an issue that animates

republicans, intentionally, it's also an issue that's animating more and more democrats in blue states because republican states like texas and florida have sent migrants their way to gin up outrage. as coness continues unbroken, 40-year streak failure. to that point, earlier this evening, punch bowl news reported that republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was backing away from a ukraine/israel border funding deal because trump wants to run his 2024 campaign on immigration. and he doesn't want to do anything to undermine him. joining me now is msnbc contributor who previously served as director for hispanic media for hillary clinton. talk to me about that. immigration is the issue that's probably been more caught up in just bare electoral politics than any other. republicans like the issue, they don't want to sollive it because solving it doesn't give them the issue. >> it doesn't but it creates a lot of feelings among the

electorate. that's why they're leaning into it. right? there's a reason why the fear mongering and the language keeps getting more aggressive. republicans have understood that they're doing something right. and that is weaponizing the humanitarian crisis at the border to create this image of chaos to the point that a person in new hampshire that is 2,000 miles away from the u.s./mexico border is scared of those images that they're seeing at the border. right? why? because all we here is a migrant is a criminal. asylum seeker is invader. humanitarian crisis is chaos because they're tapping into this sort of visceral, tribalism. visceral xenophobia anyone can belief that the other, these immigrants are fundamentally destroying that american dream. and that feeling i think is transcends politics. it transcends race, geography and very powerful and it works. >> right. look, i come from an immigrant family. as you said, transcends race and color. you have immigrants who begin to look at the newer immigrants as the other, who begin to say, look, i'm fine but i don't want

those people coming here. even latinos, hispanics, immigrants who come from africa and other places, whoa, i'm equally anti-the new immigrants. >> that's a larger discussion but i think the majority of immigrants, the majority of latinos see that image that you showed. there's some connection. there's solidarity, empathy, you can connect with the story. now, i have met the other small but growing segment of latinos and immigrants that see that image and it's a reminder of everything that makes them not american enough for white america to sort of make them feel that they belong. that is why i think we have to understand that the disinformation, the cultural wars, the trumpism, the nativism, that doesn't just work in a vacuum. all of that sort of feeds into some immigrants and latinos very complex relationship with white supremacy, right, to the point that some latinos have come to understand that in order to

belong to america, there's nothing more patriotic and nothing more nationalistic than sort of rejecting your own roots. and convincing white america that you're not then and in fact, you're as american as them and that goes beyond politics sort of the psychological exercise that we all have to do. >> yeah. and to be very clear, before people come to me on social media, the majority of immigrants, people who are themselves immigrants, particularly immigrants of color are pro immigration. it's a minority view. it's a view that is out there. just some of the polling because there is some concern on the democratic side about whether or not biden is hanging on to latinos are a huge core part of the base. 42 to 41 biden and trump 17% don't know. if you look at immigration, it polls low in the same see yen that poll in terms of what latino and hispanic voters think. it's mostly the economies. these are voters that are economy voters. they vote on how much is the

price of bread. how much is the price of gas. >> definitely. i think what's interesting is that that is accurate. i think immigration does expose the sort of moral conundrum that joe biden is wresting with. there is majority of latino voters still waiting for joe biden to sort of, enforce those immigration promises he said in 2020. waiting for joe biden to have the same result he had with other issues to have that same resolve with daca, the humanitarian crisis, with dreamers. there's still waiting for him to be that anti-image to trump's cruelty. i met them in arizona. they're still waiting -- still that small segment that wants him to lean into that fear mongering. which one will he be? you can't be both. you just can't. >> and very quickly, this massive resistance, it sounds like the old southerners who said we will resist immigration by any means necessary, that chip roy language, how does that read inside the latino

community. >> it's very, it's very simple. if you're the republican party, you're alledgedly the party of laws and order. and you're essentially telling local authorities to break the law. so i think once again, going into this image of, you know, who is the party of law and order and who is the party for democracy. that is how we have to highlight the democracy is politics. they're telling people to break the law. >> please come back. thank you very much for being here. coming up, prime minister benjamin netanyahu rejection of president biden's push for a two-state solution is raising serious concerns among the democrats. more next. eep exhale] [trumpet music plays] 579 breaths to show 'em your stuff. every breath matters. don't let rsv take your breath away. protect yourself from rsv... ...with abrysvo, pfizer's rsv vaccine.

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today in gaza, a united nations official says nine paem were killed and another 75 injured after two tank rounds -- sorry. after two tank rounds exploded hitting a building where 800 displaced civilians were taking shelter. it come as the israeli military is intensifying its assault in the southern city of khan younis. thousands forced to flee the area, although many remain trapped inside, including hundreds of patients in the city's main hospital. there's also horrifying new video that shows the fatal shooting of a palestinian man walking in a group with their hands raised and waving a white flag. that man earlier spoken to an journalist who took this video and explained in arabic, his group was attempting to get

other family members out of danger. the idf told nbc news they were not aware of this incident. meanwhile, back here in the u.s., there are growing concerns among democrats over israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's rejection of a potential palestinian state. a group of house democrats sent a letter yesterday to president biden, writing that they, quote, respectfully request that your administration outline a strategy to marshall international and ultimately israeli and palestinian support to successfully implement a two-state solution. adding that, without a sovereign poll stin yan state, controlled and operated by a palestinian government and a secure israel, the conflict will continue to kill innocent civilians and drive instability in the region. joining me is one of the democrats who signed on to that letter. congressman, thank you for being here. what has been the response from the white house to your letter. >> they acknowledge receipt.

we're waiting to provide a briefing with the answers we requested. >> can you talk about what the process would be. because palestine actually sends a delegate to the united nations. there was a piece i believe "the new york times" a week or so ago saying that could not, you know, the united states simply recognize palestine as a state? is that something that could be done, you know, regardless of what israel wants? >> i don't think so because the borders of that state are not established. obviously the palestinians, the israelis would also want security assurances. and then the players in the region from saab di arabia and other >> the players in the region, from saudi arabia to other areas, would have to recognize. it we want adorable piece so that we can end the cycle of violence once and for all. >> let me read you what senator sanderha said the united

states military, what's united states for do. he says they should stop military aid to israel because of netanyahu's rejection of a two-state soluti. president biden muscling clearly say no to the policies of netanyahu's right-wing extremist government. that is what a true friend of israel must do in this moment. congress must act. there must be no more u.s. military aid to israel to continue netanyahu's war. your thoughts on that. >> i think it definitely needs to work toward a two-state solution along with us and others playing a constructive role. -- >> but what about the funding? >> we need to continue to support aid for israel. on the north there's 130,000 rockets poised at them from hezbollah. their neighbors have repeatedly attacked them in the past. we should continue to do that. however, this cycle of violence, anything that we do right now is merely temporary and cannot

last unless a process is really started for a two-state solution. that particular solution, by the way, has not been on the agenda for some time and we're trying to move it back on to the agenda and make sure it receives the attention it deserves. >> should the a.b. conditional on israel agreeing to a process that takes us towards a two-state solution? or at least conditional, as some members of congress have called, for following international law when it comes to this conflict? >> definitely right now, the aid that goes to israel is subject to some of those restrictions. i think with regard to the two-state solution, there is nothing on the table right now for them to agree to. what we are saying is, you've got to reject whatever netanyahu is saying, as far as he is belief in the two-state solution. we have to start the negotiation process with the

neighboring players and make sure that there is something on the table to agree to. >> let's talk about the relationship between the white house and congress. the biden administration bypassed congress to send additional weapons, additional bombs, et cetera, to israel, which are now being used on gaza. you also have now seen the bombing of yemen to counteract the houthis for instituting a blockade in the red sea in their way of protesting what israel is doing in gaza. does the white house, should the white house becoming to congress to get authorization for those things rather than doing it on their own? >> it depends. if it's an exigency, an emergency, such as attacks on shipping, freedom of navigation, they have the right to make sure that our interests are protected. but with regard to any type of wider war a conflict, they absolutely have to come to can

congress for authorization. >> what about sending the weapons? because they did that without coming for authorization. >> i was concerned about that. again, there has to be full transparency, especially given the high emotions on all sides. that is a process that has been set out in congress for aid to any country, especially israel and others over a period of a long time now. >> what is your concern, if you have one, that bombing yemen could trigger a wider war? the blockade that the houthis were instituting in the red sea had not killed anyone, but we have dropped bombs that have. >> my bigger concern is that it could spark a wider war involving iran. houthis are acting as proxies for iran. iran in turn could then cause more instability in the region. they traded fire with pakistan,

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