with their hand who they are before you generalize them and say they're a certain way. i believe humanization is the key. it's the medicine for caste, it's about drilling down into the intimacy of each human being and recognizing that they are just like us. that's a part of history that we don't consider largely and something that we want to bring to the forefront. >> the new film "origin" is in theaters now. writer and director ava duvernay. thank you so much and congratulations on this project. thanks for being on this morning. >> one of my favorite shows. >> i love that. >> thank you so much. >> she watches "morning joe." >> and thanks so much to katty and also jonathan lemire, he does this about five, six, seven hours a way. >> he works a little bit. >> that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage. right now on "ana cabrera reports," donald trump back in a new york courtroom with closing arguments now underway in the

second defamation trial brought by e. jean carroll. what trump told jurors when he took the stand in a case that could be in a jury's hands by this afternoon. plus, breaking news from the u.n., the top court stopping just short of ordering an immediate cease fire in gaza. what that court is now demanding that israel do in its war against hamas. and later, alabama puts a man to death using nitrogen gas, the inmate's stark finals words and the heated debate over the first new method of execution in more than 40 years. ♪♪ hello, thank you for being with us. it is friday, 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with donald trump back in a courtroom this morning for closing arguments in the second e. jean carroll defamation case, and a jury could get this case

as soon as this afternoon. this after the former president took the stand in his own defense for just minutes yesterday after days of delays and speculation. let's get right to the courthouse and our yasmin vossoughian standing by outside. also with us, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard along with danny cevallos and lexi rigdon. court just getting underway, and it looks like trump left the courtroom now? what's going on? >> reporter: he did. so he wanted to be here this morning for closing arguments, but it seems like he didn't want to listen to e. jean carroll's attorney and their closing arguments. i want to read a little bit from what we're getting from inside the courtroom when it comes to the closing arguments and the way in which e. jean carroll's attorneys are framing this whole thing, and it speaks to kind of what we've been talking about repeatedly. if e. jean carroll suffered harm, he says she was asking for it. she had no choice. they have the nerves to suggest that she would be grateful to

donald j. trump because she is more famous than she was before and being known as a liar and a whack job is different than an advice columnist. and she goes on, if he thinks with his wealth and power he can treat ms. carroll how he wants and will suffer no consequences, he continues to defame her and destroy her reputation. he cannot attack her just because he feels like it. this kind of speaks on a -- and i'm sure danny can speak to this as well as to the argument that is being framed by e. jean carroll's attorneys, and it is the suffering that e. jean carroll has had to go through since these continued defamation and accusations made by the former president of the united states along with what is going to make him stop, right? and part of the deposition that we heard yesterday from. gene carroll's attorneys was talking about trump's wealth and the details of his wealth and how much valuation his properties had. the reason for that was they want the jury to walk out of

this room later on this afternoon and say how much money are we going to make the former president of the united states pay to make him stop? for alina habba's case, hers will more likely be about the fact that e. jean carroll was kind of dining off the celebrity she has gained from the accusations she made against the former president. more to come, when we talk about timing here, it looks like judge kaplan is looking to get the jury into deliberations during lunch. we could get a decision early afternoon. >> keep us posted and stay with me here as i turn to vaughn. this development that trump was there, didn't have to be there, but he made a big deal about being in court as he's continuing his campaign from the courtroom, and then he gets up and walks away? >> it's notable. i mean, his team has made the case that he's not going to what was essentially going to be a campaign event with the arizona

republican party this evening because of, quote, court obligations, according to the arizona republican party. that's what they were told by trump's team later on tonight. he has made the decision to be inside of that courtroom for these closing arguments. we expect the jury to convene and begin to deliberate on the decision of what those damages will look like. this is notable coming out of yesterday where he ended up testifying for literally just three minutes. he was called to the stand and the part -- the difficult part you could say for trump is that he was very much restricted in what he could and could not say and judge kaplan made it clear to alina habba, his attorney, that donald trump must -- or cannot deny the allegations that he sexually abused e. jean carroll. and so when he took the stand, she asked him just three questions and the very first question was whether he stood by his deposition. trump replied 100% yes. he was then asked about whether he denied the allegations that carroll made against him, and he said absolutely before going on to say that he considered it a

judge struck from the record. but all of this was in front of the jury. again, donald trump just for about three minutes being able to testify, but it was notable three minutes at that. >> so danny, today storming out of the courtroom as closing arguments are underway with carroll's attorney detailing the harm he has caused through his defamation, that can't help with a jury. >> trump didn't invent leaving the courtroom during testimony or during closing arguments as a symbolic statement, but he certainly, i imagine, created the most hubbub when he did it. he's the former president and he doesn't just stand up and walk out without a lot of people and reporters following him to see where he goes and see what he says. this is something the jury watches. they're aware of it. they watch everything in the courtroom. they watch a party, a defendant sitting there at the table doing nothing. they watch everything. so did they see donald trump walk out during closing arguments in the middle of court?

of course they did. but that's a risk. some of them may see it as a bold act of defiance. others may see it as an act of disrespect. same too for when donald trump goes off the rails and has to be reprimanded by the judge. sometimes the jurors might see that as an act of defiance, but most of the time, especially with a party, there's a risk that the jury will see this as just somebody misbehaving in the courtroom and defying the court because they don't like what they hear. >> what's your take on whether trump's actions today, whether his testimony for all of three minutes yesterday helped or hurt his case? >> frankly, i'm not sure it did very much at all. he wasn't really able to say anything and he wasn't cross examined. she asked three questions. not much came out of it except for the subject of a lot of motion practice. i don't really think honestly it moved the needle much. it was probably interesting for the jury to actually see a former president sitting in front of them, and i'm sure alina habba never thought in her

wildest dreams she would be doing a direct examination of a former president. i really honestly don't think it moved the needle very much. >> can you put the toothpaste back in the tube when he's going up there and saying what the judge told him not to say, saying he stands by his claims that her story was a lie, saying that he was trying to protect himself and his family and even the presidency. the judge says strike those comments, but the jury's already heard them. >> you can't put the toothpaste back in the tubes. the best that we have is to give the curative instruction. it's not necessarily going to work. the jurors are human, and so really depends on what sinks in. clearly nobody felt like his comments rose to the level of requiring some type of mistrial or some type of more significant sanction against him. >> yasmin, what do we know about this jury and its makeup? >> reporter: so i think the questions that were asked of this jury pool as they were gathering them are really

important to talk about here because two of the big questions that kind of stood out to all of us as we've been covering this thing for the last couple of days or so was essentially asking them the news in which they follow. where do you get your news from, is it msnbc, cnn, "new york times," "washington post," so on and so forth, and who did you vote for in 2016, 2020. they wanted to know their political affiliations. they wanted to know their involvement in the news cycle. a lot of the folks that they chose to remain in this jury pool are people that were very vague about their answers, folks that essentially said, well, i get my news from the internet, for instance, from youtube, from twitter, and/or folks that say, well, i haven't really followed the news over the last year and a half. i haven't really been involved or i didn't necessarily vote. or folks that were vague about their answers and political affiliation. there also seemed to be somewhat of folks wanting to serve within this jury pool, wanting to serve in this trial, once they

recognized who the defendant was, which we found interesting as well. so you take all of that together and then consider the case that is being built by, for instance, e. jean carroll's attorneys, he's now going through the importance of her advice column, you wonder as they walk away from this thing what their decisions will be. being here in new york city as well. >> danny, carroll is seeking at least $10 million in compensatory damages, plus the punitive damages. it could be much higher than that 10 million. how does the jury determine the exact amount? >> these are two kinds of damages that are very difficult to put a dollar amount on. in the typical personal injury type case, you can take something like a real physical injury, a shattered femur and you can put up on the board, here are the medical bills. here's rehab over x number of years. here's all the years this person was out of work and their lost wages. you can add them up and give the

jurors a number. it's a little harder with defamation because how do you value somebody's reputation. same too with punitive damages. what is the dollar amount that will purchase donald trump, not any defendant because it's measured by this particular defendant and what would hurt him in his pocketbook. >> and get him to stop doing what he's been doing all along. >> exactly right, and deter him from doing it in the future. so how do you arrive at those two numbers, which are really nebulous and really difficult to determine. the plaintiff did a good job of calling in an expert, a reputation repair expert to say this is what it would cost to go online and start a campaign to repair her reputation. i find that interesting because those damages experts are very effective, but realistically what plaintiff who gets $10 million awarded to them is actually going to go out and spend the money to repair their reputation. they're probably going to pocket it. it doesn't matter, it still is a good tangible measure of damages

in a universe where it's really difficult to get a hard dollar number for the jurors to hang their hats on. >> alexi your thoughts on how long it will take the jury to come to a decision here. they again aren't having to figure out whether she was, in fact, sexually abused and defamed. that's already been determined in the first e. jean carroll trial. in the first trial it took the jury five hours to deliberate before coming to a decision. what would you anticipate this time? >> that's not necessarily a long time. he didn't put on a case. he never showed up. he wasn't there. he didn't testify. they didn't need to weigh what he said versus what she said. here i think it could be either quick if they look at how much money he has. to danny's point, he has enough money to pay compensatory damages and punitive damages. if the jury doesn't want to dig too deep into or listen to what the expert said or try to come up with an amount that has some type of nexus to the evidence, it could be quick. if they're going to dig into it

and want to talk about the testimony of the expert and weigh that it could take longer. it remains to be seen. >> no one knows until they come up with their verdict. thank you so much, guys, yasmin vossoughian, vaughn hillyard, danny cevallos. the first american execution with nitrogen gas, this inmate's final words and what it means for the death penalty in america. nikki haley claims she is raking in millions after donald trump threatened her donors. his threat and the money she is seeing over the last 48 hour >> overseas, the u.n.'s top court stopped short of ordering a cease fire in gaza. what that court is now calling on israel to do. israel to do.

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a press conference to address the controversial execution of convicted murderer kenneth smith. his death row execution was a first of its kind in the u.s. using nitrogen gas. this was the state's second amendment to execute smith after a failed lethal injection in 2022. it also marked the first time that a new execution method has been used here in the u.s. in more than four decades. and according to media witnesses, among the 58-year-old's final words, quote, tonight alabama caused humanity to take a step back ward. nbc's emilie ikeda has more for us. >> hey there, this controversial and untested had method was used in place of lethal injection. smith's legal team argued it may lead to pain and suffering, but the state says the execution proceeded as planned. overnight an unprecedented execution going forward in alabama. the state performing the country's first ever nitrogen gas execution on convicted

killer kenneth smith. officials saying the execution began at 7:53 and smith was pronounced dead at 8:25. the nitrogen flowed about 15 minutes and that smith had labored breathing. >> he struggled against his restraints, but there was involuntary movement, that was all expected. >> the corrections commissioner said he appeared to be holding his breath as long as he could. the 58-year-old was convicted for the 1988 murder for hire killing of elizabeth senate. he had been in prison for 35 years. smith was scheduled to die in november 2022 but the attempt at lethal injection didn't work. before the execution, the supreme court rejected another last ditch effort from smith's legal team to stop it arguing it could lead to prolonged pain and suffering. those state officials have testified in court that nitrogen gas is painless and humane. according to media witnesses inside the chamber, smith, quote, shook, and writhed for

about two minutes on a gurney followed by several minutes of deep breaths. smith's spiritual adviser reverend jeff hood witnessed the execution. >> we also saw correction officials in the room who were visibly surprised at how bad this thing went. >> victim elizabeth senate's family reflecting on the impact of smith's crime. as they look towards closure after years of loss. >> kenneth smith made some bad decisions 35 years ago, and his debt was paid tonight. >> nbc news has reached out to the alabama department of corrections for more information on the reaction from witnesses, but we have not heard back. state officials have said smith's response was part of the known side effects. >> thank you for that reporting. and right now in michigan, the mother of a convicted school shter is back in court facing involuntary manslaughter charges in a rare trial.

prosecutors allege she willfully failed to act before her then 15-year-old son killed four of his classmates in a school shooting spree two years ago. jennifer crumbley's defense arguing she could not have known what her son would do, and there were intense moments in the courtroom including the first witness, a surviving teacher showing jurors her bullet wounds as she described how she tied her ttourniquet, and trum blee jesse kirsch joining us from pontiac, michigan, what are we expecting today as this trial moves forward? >> we've been hearing more testimony so far this morning, i'm just checking our monitor of the courtroom there. still in a brief break right now, but what we're hearing from right now is a former detective who was just describing a short time ago on the stand watching the videos, the surveillance videos from the school of the

shooting again and again, and he was describing the various encounters that ethan crumbley had with his victims and the shootings and the way these victims fell to the ground in some cases, and you could hear sniffling off camera, and then we were able to see that jennifer crumbley the defendant appearing to be wiping away tears, appearing to be emotional hearing. >> jennifer crumbley is expected to testify in her own defense according to her lawyers. when might that happen? >> reporter: yeah, so at this point the prosecution is still in the early hours of presenting its case. we were told by the prosecution that we could see anywhere from 20 to 25 witnesses. this is fifth witness by our account that the prosecution is having on the stand. so we are not yet at this point where the defense would be calling its own witness, be

calling jennifer crumbley to the stand, but we don't have any indication on exactly when that might happen. you mentioned that jennifer crumbley is going to testify, but the defense is also trying to have her son ethan crumbley testify. his attorneys have said they will advise against him testifying and there's even a question of if the judge will require this. here's an exchange on that earlier today. >> you are not allowed to put someone on the stand knowing that they're -- and i cannot think of a single question beyond what is your name that would not implicate his fifth amendment rights. so i don't know what you could even ask him that he would answer or that his lawyers would let him answer. >> reporter: so no official ruling at this point from the judge, but she has indicated that she appears unlikely to be compelling ethan crumbley to testify at his mother's trial here, ana. >> okay, jesse, thank you very

much for that reporting, and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos is back with us. the defense seems to be arguing that this is a mother who just didn't know what her son was capable of. how much pressure or weight does that put on her testimony if and when she is put on the stand? >> it would be helpful to her to have her son testify saying my parents, there's a lot of risk that she had no idea her son would do what he did. the problem with that is that the prosecution has a lot of documentary evidence in the form of text messages. they have witnesses inbounding -- including school officials who will say we called them in to the school the day of the shooting. the parents never suggested he might have a gun, no one ever said let's look in his bag because he had it in his bag at that meeting. there were a lot of red flags and warning signs that the prosecution has evidence of.

even if the defendant takes the stand and says i did not know this was going to happen, the state is going to have evidence, text messages that suggest otherwise. back and forth with her and her son being rather cavalier, at least appearing cavalier about the fact that her son is being caught at school either drawing pictures of firearms, looking up ammunition, things that i think ordinary people might be concerned about if they were called into a meeting about their son for this purpose. and that's going to be the linchpin of the state's case is on the day of instead of taking him home out of the school, they left the shooter there. >> and part of her defense in the opening statements suggests they are going to point a finger at her husband saying it was his responsibility to store the gun. he's being tried separately. what do you make of this? >> absolutely. i said this days ago that the strategy has to be point the finger at everyone, your son,

and including your co-defendant and school officials. you point the finger at school officials, this would be the strategy, i'm not saying this would be my view of the case. you have to point the finger at school officials saying hey, they should have sent him home. they knew most of what we knew. you point also at the spouse and say this is the person that was really in charge. i was only a peripheral figure in this whole gun ownership thing. the problem with that is there are text messages and evidence that she took him to the shooting range. she was involved this his ownership of the gun. so that is going to be an uphill battle for this dcht. >> all right, danny cevallos, we're be watching and following along closely. thanks so much for your expertise. good to have you here. next on "ana cabrera reports," what the united nation's top court just said about the war in gaza and a cease fire. plus, are donald trump's threats against nikki haley's donors now back firing on the former president? firing on the former president you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now.

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we have breaking news out of the united nations top court this morning. the international court of justice today stopped short of ordering a cease fire demanded by south africa ruling that could have far reaching consequences. the court did order israel to take all measures to prevent its forces from committing acts of genocide against palestinians in gaza. an estimated 26,000 people have been killed in gaza since the war began according to the hamas-controlled palestinian health ministry. nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley joins us live from tel aviv. matt, this ruling is not necessarily a decision on whether israel did, in fact, commit genocide. that could take years to reach. so what does today's ruling really mean, and what happens now? >> reporter: yeah, this is the icj. this is a body of the united nations. it's on the level of a lot of the other main bodies of the united nations. this is not something where it's individuals who get prosecuted

by the icj. states in this case south africa bring cases against other states, in this case israel. hamas notably was not a party to this court case. they were not named in the allegations. so this is something that would need to actually be then moved over to other bodies of the united nations as kind of like a recommendation. the icj has no teeth. it has no police force of its own and can't enforce its decisions, but it is a decision that would, you know, pile diplomatic pressure on israel. so that's why a lot of countries who have been at the butt of icj's decision, myanmar recently, russia recently, they've simply ignored these decisions. now, the security council could decide to take action in one way or another on the decision that we heard today from the icj, but that would mean that the united states would have to not use its veto power, which it typically does, to protect israel in the security council. so it's unclear exactly where this goes from here, but we do

know that the israelis are obliged to come up with a report within a month's time explaining what they've done to the icj. >> stay with us. i want to bring into the conversation, jameel jafer, former chief council and senior adviser to the senate foreign relations committee. your reaction to this outcome at this u.n. court and whether it's going to have any kind of practical effect on how israel proceeds? >> you and matt are exactly right, which is to say this isn't a decision about whether israel committed genocide. it's a question of whether south africa's claims are plausible. what they've told israel to do is essentially continue doing what you're doing, which is enforcing the rule of law, ensuring that your military are not committing acts of genocide. israel's position is that's what we've been doing the whole time. in a lot of ways, even though south africa said you've got to end the conflict now, you've got to make israel stop doing everything it's doing, the court didn't go nearly that far and

said follow the rule of law. >> does this put the u.s. in a more precarious position at all as it continues to support israel and try to bring peace to the region? >> i think what this highlights is that israel has every incentive to avoid civilian casualties, right? because of cases like this, because it might undermine support in the u.s. and elsewhere, and as a result it's seeking to avoid civilian casualties. hamas realizes it gains benefits if civilians die because it causes people to move towards the palestinian cause. it's why you've seen hamas put people in the way of live fire. it's why you've seen hamas say to gazans stay here knowing israel's coming into the area. >> matt, this is all as the cia director is reportedly being dispatched to the region. what are we learning? >> yeah, william burns is expected to arrive in europe, we don't know exactly where. he's going to be meeting with his counterparts from israel and from egypt, and then he's also going to be meeting with the prime minister of qatar.

these egypt and qatar are the two main states who have been serving as interlock tours trying to release deals to release these hostages. there has been one successful deal so far that released more than 100 in gaza. this is something that a lot of folks here who have family members who are still in gaza being held by hamas and other groups, this is music to their ears because it shows a level of seriousness and commitment on the part of the united states and maybe even the rest of the international community to try to bring these parties together to negotiate the release. we spoke with one young woman whose father is still being held in the gaza strip. i spoke with her just this morning. here's what she had to say. >> he's the most thoughtful and nice person in the world and he is my best friend. this gives us hope and this is the thing that keeps me going,

you know. i don't know what i would have done if it wasn't happening. >> reporter: and all of this still going as israel continues its incursion into the gaza strip, which has now killed, according to the hamas-run health ministry there more than 26,000 palestinians in gaza, most of them civilians. but i have to tell you, ana, all of this has only freed one hostage. all of the rest have been freed through negotiated deals like the one we're seeing william burns dealing with probably this week. >> that's an important reminder. so we just are getting some breaking news, guys, that the houthis have fired a missile towards the uss carney. the u.s. shot it down, no injuries or damages reported. why can't the u.s. seem to tamp down these ongoing attacks? this seems to be a continuing threat. >> you know, at the end of the day, if you're really going to stop what's happening to the houthis, you've got to go after their backers in iran. going after their silos or

depots, their fighters in yemen is helpful. it limits their ability to act. at the end of the ta, the iranians continue to supply weapons, continue to supply support, continue to supply money, and the houthis are doing this at their request. this is really about iran, not about the houthis. until the u.s. takes direct action against iran, i predict these attacks will continue and worsen. >> a military confrontation with iran could explode, no? >> there's no doubt that's exactly the challenge, and the united states has tried to play it back. you see what's happened. the attacks continue. they get worse, they get worse. at the end of the day, there's no way out of this problem because we all know who's responsible. it's iran. you've got to be able to take action and demonstrate to them that you mean business. otherwise they will continue to act through these proxy actors. >> appreciate your perspective and insights. thank you, matt bradley for your reporting. over to the uk where king charles has been admitted to the hospital for prostate surgery. the palace disclosed earlier this month that the king had an enlarged prostate, not cancerous

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we're back, and there could be a backlash to donald trump's threats to nikki haley's donors. haley's campaign now says it has raised 2.6 million since new hampshire including more than a million since trump threatened to bar anyone who donated to haley from the, quote, maga camp. joining us now is former ohio governor in 2016, presidential candidate john kasich, and democratic pollster fernand amanda dee. governor haley's team saying this morning that trump's scheme blew up in his face. do you agree? >> well, i know a number of the people that are trying to raise money for her. they've got a big event coming up in new york. they could care less about being in the maga camp, whatever the heck that means. so, no, that would probably get

them more aggravated and probably will do more. there will be some people that will stay away because they want to have access to trump. there's a lot of people who want to be involved not in making a winner but in being with a winner. it will scare some people away. for those folks who have the big bucks, the people who care a great deal about this, it will be no impact. in fact, it might get them to do a little bit more. and look, her super pac, my understanding is out raised trump in the last quarter. she's doing fine right now with the finances. >> so fernand, nikki haley seems to really be getting under trump's skin. is his ramped up attacks and these fund-raising numbers, is this a sign of some momentum growing behind her? >> i'm not sure it's a sign of momentum in the long run because barring, again, a situation where donald trump is removed from the ballot or he himself steps down, he's going to be the republican nominee. but it is getting under his skin

because in the mob style, cult style tactics of the way trump runs the maga republican party, there is no dissension. anything that is anything less than 100% loyalty will be met with this kind of response. and in the short-term from haley's perspective, this financial headwind that she's got behind her, it does keep her viable only in the sense of if something happens to trump, she's then the potential nominee in waiting. but in the long run, i think this is all performative because at the end of the day, ana, nikki haley is going to endorse donald trump and in the same way all was seemingly forgiven with ron desantis when he bent at the knee and endorsed trump the night after he got out of the race, the same thing will happen with nikki haley. >> we'll see, she's sticking in longer and her attacks against him have increased. so governor, potential back firing yet again with the rnc, coming out with a draft resolution that would have anointed trump before he

actually won, but then we see trump come out last night on social media and say, no, no, you should withdraw that resolution, and they did. why would trump want to pump the brakes on this? it seems like something right up his alley. >> you know, it's an interesting thing, ana, i couldn't figure out how his brain works there. i think he's just trying to say, look, everybody chill out. i'm going to be fine. it's all going to work out. >> that doesn't sound like trump. >> well, you know, you just don't know. >> he's threatening people who are donating to nikki haley. >> ana, you know, i can't explain exactly what he's thinking, but you know, i've had people in the trump camp tell me that they are arguing that he's going to be a lot more moderate, bringing more people in. we'll see. that's what they're trying to tell me, and maybe this is one little sign of that, but the rnc does have one resolution that has to do with the border, by the way, fix the border. and now we see donald trump

trying to stop fixing the border and republicans may be joining him. i hope that's not the end of this story. i tell you something, you talk about cynicism, everybody's complaining, everybody wants that border fixed. and at the end of the day if republicans say we're going to play politics, we're going to help trump, we're going to hurt biden, that's why they hate politics and they're beginning to not like politicians. >> such a good point, and we're going to come back to that with ryan nobles to get the latest on the border deal in just a second, but while i have you, i've got to ask you about how democrats are moving forward in this 2024 election cycle. they're trying to go on offense. we're learning they have ads starting this weekend targeting voters of color, rural areas and younger voters in south carolina and nevada, those are obviously big constituencies in those specific states. do democrats really need to shore up support among these groups? >> the answer is, yes, they do. they have to maximize their base

vote and those groups in particular make up the democratic coalition. but, ana, i think in the large scheme, the democrats are in the cat bird's seat right now. trump is going to be the republican nominee, and that is the most effective organizing turnout operation the democratic party could ever think of because donald trump is an unacceptable alternative to millions of americans. we see that in the polling, the new hampshire polling makes that clear. he's just a anathema to independents and a sizable portion of those in the republican party are just rejecting trumpism. so for democrats, the work should begin. it is beginning, but i think at the end of the day, they're looking good going into november because trump is the preferred opponent by far for president biden and the democratic party. >> i've got to leave it there. i wish we had more type. lots of twists and turns we can anticipate along the way.

thank you very much, good to see you both, happy friday. we have this just in to our newsroom. new tensions brewing over a potential bipartisan border deal, which we just referenced, but now we're getting this letter from speaker johnson that was sent today saying this deal would be, quote, dead on arrival in the house. right now there's a movement among some senate republicans to torpedo this deal in an apparent effort to boost donald trump ahead of the 2024 election. here's senator mitt romney. >> i think the border is a very important issue for donald trump, and the fact that he would communicate to republican senators and congress people that he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame biden for it is really appalling. >> nbc's ryan nobles is following every twist and turn from capitol hill. ryan, democrats and republicans have been working on this deal

for weeks. does it look like it's all about to fall apart? what are you hearing from lawmakers? >> reporter: ana, i'd describe the supplemental package and this border policy negotiation on life support right now. it's certainly not dead quite yet, but it's getting closer and closer to its expiration date. and this new letter from peeker johnson speaks to that. what is interesting about the letter is that he doesn't say the deal itself is dead on arrival, he said the rumors of this proposed package are dead on arrival. that shows one thing very clearly, that the speaker himself is not involved in these negotiations. he actually has no idea what this group of senate negotiators are working on right now, and he's made no effort to be a part of it. he wants to wait and see what the senate delivers before making the final word, and there is a divide right now amongst republicans, should they do something on the border right now or should they wait and let this become a campaign issue. one republican i spoke to yesterday, lindsey graham who is of course a very vocal supporter

of donald trump said they should pass the bill now. >> you talk to president trump fairly often, why not have him make that case to some of your colleagues that seem to be on the fence? >> well, what i would say is i don't know what to tell president trump yet about the final product, but i will tell him this, that from my point of view, we need relief today, and what we're trying to do will help him if he gets to be president. >> so it's important to keep in mind, they don't need all of the republicans in the senate to get this bill done. they maybe only need 20 to 25 depending on how many democrats decide they don't want to support it. so ana, right now what they're trying to figure out is if they can cobble together a package that gets 60% republican or democrat. >> ryan nobles, we'll believe it when we see it, thank you so much. up next on "ana cabrera reports, something no parent wants to hear, measles outbreak across multiple states. where it's happening and how to protect your family. protect you.

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and now to the concerning uptick in measles cases. one of the most contagious of all infectious diseases. this is a virus america declared eliminated more than 20 years ago. doctors are now sounding the alarm after cases have been reported, specifically in several northeastern states. with the world health organization announcing a 45-fold rise in measles cases across europe in 2023, as vaccination rates for this preventable virus dropped off. dr. peter hotez, at texas children's hospital is joining us now with more on this. doctor, nice to see you. do we know why we're seeing these outbreaks of measles here? >> yeah, it is a twofold reason. a lot of social disruption during the covid pandemic and some interruptions of supply chain and parents were sometimes not taking their kids to the pediatrician as often as they would like. there was that dropoff. then superimposed on top of that

is a pretty aggressive antivaccine movement, where some parents are hesitant to take their children in to get vaccinated and we're seeing pockets of very low vaccination rates in different parts of the united states and this is happening across europe. and so that's a very dangerous combination because measles is a very serious infection with high rates of hospitalization and even death. >> wow, and let's talk more about that. we talk about just how contagious measles are, according to the cdc. up to nine out of ten people with close contact to a measles patient will develop it if you're not vaccinated. so, what are the risks if someone gets measles? it could be as extreme as somebody dying, you mentioned. even less than that, it is still serious. >> yeah, the big problem is if kids are not getting their vaccines. and they're highly vulnerable. and, you're right, it is one of the most transmissible virus agents we know, even more than this variant of covid. so, the single most important

thing you can do as a parent is make certain your child is up to date with their immunizations. in the u.s., we give the first dose around a year of age and second dose around school entry. those two doses are incredibly protective. % protective against measles. but, we're seeing parents not vaccinating their kids, not keeping up. that's the first breakthrough infection you see, because it is so highly transmissible, that's often the first -- that's often the first indicator your vaccination program is not as robust as you like. >> what does measles do to the body? >> it does a few things. it causes measles pneumonia, the most severe complication. it also causes heari loss. and measles itis. it can cause encephalitis as well. so, roughly, if you get measles around 20% of kids will have -- require hospitalization. another 5% could get severe measles pneumonia, which could

be linked to profound illness and even death. and high percentage of measles encephalitis as well. the bottom line is measles is a bad actor. it is not a benign childhood illness. >> if you will, we have 30 seconds, to be clear, is there any risk to getting the vaccination? >> no, the risk of vaccination is extremely, extremely low. we're talking very small percentages of allergic reactions. and extremely rare side fects, but that's point. extremely rare, where as the risk if you get measless qte high, so y got the numbers flashed up ther there is no contest. you do not want to get measles. you do want to get the vaccine. >> dr. peter hotez, thank you very much for providing your expertise and for all you do. good to see you. >> thank you so much. that does it for us today. happy friday. hope you have a great weekend. see you back here monday, same time, same place. for now, i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york.

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good morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we're following breaking news this morning. any moment now alabama's attorney general will give an update on the execution of the first person ever to be put to death with nitrogen gas. we'll talk to a witness who says he's never seen such a violent reaction to an execution. but, first, here in new york city, donald trump walks out of the courtroom during closing arguments i e. jean carroll's second defamation case against him. jurors will have to decide how much the former president owes carroll for painting her as a liar, all this after trump took the stand for three minutes on thursday. he said he lashed out at carroll to protect himself, h