. >> reporter: andrea there hasn't been counternarcotics cooperation since china called off talks in august of '22 as retaliation for nancy pelosi's visit to taiwan, and there was also the obstacle of sanctions against two police labs that both fall under the ministry of public security. but they were removed from the entity list, that was seen as the tradeoff for paving the way for this cooperation that we're going to see next week that comes at a critical time. andrea. >> thank you so much, janice. that does it for us for this edition. remember, follow us on social media at mitchellreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good afternoon. i'm chris jansing live from msnbc headquarters in new york city. how much money will it take to

silence donald trump? that is the question that will soon be in the hands of a manhattan jury. it is their only decision, how much trump owes e. jean carroll for repeatedly defaming her. her lawyers dangling one number, $12 million. we're live from the courthouse. plus, donald trump's tight grip around the gop being tested now on capitol hill amid accusations he's trying to tank a bipartisan border deal in order to boost his campaign. and the u.n.'s top court demands israel do everything in its power to prevent acts of genocide in gaza but stopped short of calling for a cease fire. we'll talk to a top adviser for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu coming up. but we begin with donald trump back in that new york city courtroom where the bottom line of his bank account is at stake today. and like a lot of things involving the former president, it all went off course and quickly. even before the jury came in,

the judge admonished trump's lawyer, alina habba for showing up late, and then when she argued with the judge over some evidence, he warned her, you are on the verge of spending some time in the lockup. now sit down. and that was just the start, with trump watching, attorneys for e. jean carroll said the reason his testimony yesterday was so short was that his denials were all complete lies, the words lies and testify defamation were used repeated until in another moment of high drama, trump walked out of the courtroom before carroll's lawyer argued he should pay $12 million, saying trump doesn't care about the law or truth, but he does care about money. well, trump did return to hear alina habba argue that the case is based on speculation, emotion, misrepresentation, and that it was carroll, no the -- not trump who set off a press frenzy, giving her the public profile she always wanted. the jury is being instructed by the judge now with a reminder that trump's guilt has already

been decided. msnbc's yasmin vossoughian is reporting from outside the courthouse in new york. also with us, renato mariotti, former federal prosecutor and a legal affairs columnist at "politico," eugene robinson, an msnbc political analyst. welcome all. okay, yasmin. give us some more highlights. take us through the arguments as we get ready for the jury to take over deliberations. >> reporter: at the top of the show, chris, you asked the right question, right? which is how much is it going to take for him to stop, and that is a question that was posed by e. jean carroll's attorneys today in the closing arguments. there was a rebuttal also from. e. jean carroll's attorneys as well. they're being read the rules to deliberations. they're then going to be taking a lunch break, we could be get ago decision anytime early afternoon once they're into that lunch break because they have concluded with closing arguments on both sides.

first and foremost was from e. jean carroll's attorneys, the plaintiffs attorneys essentially talking about the state of mind e. jean carroll or what she felt as if was being threatened by the president of the united states. they painted a picture of e. jean carroll in her apartment in midtown manhattan and said to the jury, which is oftentimes how they play out with these closing arguments, imagine yourself in that situation in front of your computer seeing these threats coming in, filling your security and your life at risk, closing the drapes, locking the doors. closing the windows. being afraid to go out on the streets. put yourself in her shoes. that is how e. jean carroll felt. they painted a picture of a woman who was a highly successful opinion columnist who lost her column essentially because of the threats that were made against her, who lost her way to live essentially and to take care of herself financially, painting her as the victim. and then it was alina habba's

turn. she made the argument that whatever former president trump did, it did not result in the threats that e. jean carroll faced. that was a reflect of the people that felt as if he had been wronged and they were, in fact, defending him. they talked a lot about the fact that the former president felt as if he was wrong and he had a right to defend himself in the public arena. as we heard from the former president in his very brief testimony yesterday, he felt as if he was defending the presidency. one more thing i want to mention, which was reiterated multiple times, chris, which was the net worth of donald trump. and e. jean carroll's attorneys brought this up multiple times saying and i quote, at one point, donald trump has said on the record he can pay $1 million every day for the next decade and he will still have money in the bank. and so the decision here for the jury going into these deliberations is we go back to that question that you posed at

the top of the show, right, chris? how much are they going to have to offer here to make him stop and also to make up for those compensatory damages that she's asking for, $10 million for e. jean carroll. now it's just a wait and see game. >> yeah, renato, she's absolutely right. that was their argument, for example, as trump's team was objecting to proposed damages, carroll's lawyer pointed to trump's claim that mar-a-lago alone is worth $1.5 billion, and they continued from where yasmin left off saying this is a man who defamed and continues to defame, a man who has time and time again shown contempt for the rule of law, thinks they don't apply to him. he can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants, but he can't avoid responsibility. so what does a jury look at when they decide something like this, renato? >>. >> well, it's a really interesting question, chris. the issue of punitive damages is

something that there's a lot of range for the jury to go, and i actually want to commend e. jean carroll's lawyersor picking numbers that are very reasonable. they're not trying to shoot for the moon for some crazy sort of number that ultimately a court of appeals might reverse. they're shooting for -- putting it up on the screen now, $12 million, that's a rounding error for donald trump. now, will it be enough to restrain him, to convince him to start obeying what the judge's orders are? i'm not so sure. i think it's fair to say that ultimately at the end of the day, donald trump is going to do what he wants to do. but his behavior today in court, you know, storming out in the middle of closing arguments, his behavior yesterday not following the judge's instructions, previously, you know, repeating, you know, the false statements that he's made already about e. jean carroll, that's all going to weigh on the jury, and realistically, unless there's a

juror or two that is just off the rails and doesn't want to follow the prior jury's verdict and finding that e. jean carroll was sexually assaulted, i think he's definitely going to be paying millions of dollars to e. jean carroll in punitive damages. >> in addition to storming out of the courtroom today, trump was posting defamatory statements while it was all going on, and that was after posting a video last night on truth social. let me play a little bit of that. >> i don't even know who this woman is. i have no idea who she is, where she came from. this is another scam. it's a political witch hunt, and somehow we're going to have to fight this. >> so as we said, eugene, look, the argument being made by carroll's lawyers is they want to find a number that will get him to stop, but what is that number? >> who knows what that number is, but i think that number goes

up as trump shows contempt for the court, contempt for the judge, contempt for the whole process, which translates for contempt for the jury, not to mention contempt for e. jean carroll. so to the extent that he's looking for any sort of sympathy from this jury, i think he is eliminating that possibility or drastically reducing it by his behavior, and you know, when there's a judgment, i mean, that's money that he has to pay, right? even if he gets reelected as president, he's got to pay the money. he can't pardon himself, his way out of a civil judgment, so i don't know what his game is here. maybe he is so super rich that he just doesn't care, you know, 10 million, 12 million, 20 million, whatever, but that's

not the donald trump i think we know. the donald trump we know holds on to every nickel, and i can't imagine that he truly understands what he's doing to himself with this behavior. >> you know, renato, i was thinking as he's continuing to attack her during the trial, what happens if he just keeps going? i mean, does she keep taking him back to court? does this become a hamster wheel that just goes round and round and round? >> that's a great question. i mean, at a certain point you call it a day, when you're a private citizen and you're trying to pursue civil lawsuits, but i think for donald trump, you know, this is part of a broader strategy on his part. he wants there to be a circus. he wants to get his points out so that he can rev up his supporters, fund-raise, improve his poll numbers. all of those sorts of things. so this is all a show, chris. you show that truth social video

a moment ago, he is relishing that attention, and he's trying to use this as a platform to essentially out stage his remaining opponent in the republican primary. so i think, you know, he views this as the cost of doing business so to speak, and for e. jean carroll, you know, all the pain and suffering and fear that she's had to endure, you know, is ultimately going to be compensated here to some extent, but i don't think she's going to potentially see the satisfaction, at least in the short run of him changing his tune and changing his actions. >> eugene, there is this feeling you hear from some republicans quietly that, look, they know that this has been very successful for donald trump with his base, whatever the trial is, you know, he is the victim. this is a witch hunt. but they're worried it's maybe going to start to catch up with him. there's been some talk from "the new york times" that the manhattan d.a. is quietly getting ready for the criminal

case if the other ones get tide up in some of these questions about when they could start. and it would not only hurt donald trump, but it would hurt down the line. in some sense, do you believe that these trials could catch up with him, eugene? >> well, you know, yes. to this extent. i mean, look, in new hampshire independents voted heavily for nikki haley instead of donald trump, and most or a lot of those nikki haley voters said they simply will not vote for donald trump under any circumstances. that's the group he really needs to worry about. sure, he may be strengthening his hold on the maga base, but the maga base alone does not get him elected president. and to the extent, again, that he alienates independents and non-maga republicans to say

nothing of democrats, that makes it harder for him to put together the 270 electoral votes that he's going to need. and you know, the last poll we saw out of pennsylvania looked very bad for him, and i have a feeling we're going to see some other polling that doesn't look so sunny for president trump. >> eugene robinson, yasmin vossoughian, renato mariotti, thank you very much. we'll have reaction from a top adviser to prime minister netanyahu in 60 seconds. p advis netanyahu in 60 seconds. just one aleve. 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief. aleve. who do you take it for? and for fast topical pain relief, try alevex. there's nothing better than a subway series footlong. except when you add a new footlong sidekick. like the ultimate bmt with the new footlong pretzel. nothing like a sidekick that steps up in crunch time. [laughing]

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. the u.n.'s highest court ordering israel to do everything in its power to prevent a genocide in gaza. the court notably stopped short of demanding an immediate cease fire as requested by south africa, which brought the genocide charges against israel. meanwhile, in southern gaza, the idf and hamas are locked in a bitter battle around the city of khan yunis. israel has ordered tens of thousands of palestinians to evacuate the area as hunger and desperation grow by the day. their lives could hinge on negotiations taking place in europe. cia director william burn wills meet in hopes of brokering a deal to halt the violence and free the 130 or so hostages who remain in captivities. joining me now mark regev, senior adviser to prime minister netanyahu and former israeli ambassador to the uk. welcome back to the program. obviously we have a lot to talk about. let me start with your reaction

to the icj's ruling and will israel abide by it? >> well, the most important thing is the south africans unfortunately, have chosen to become the lawyers of the hamas terrorist movement, and the first item on their action list was to have the court impose some sort of temporary cease fire that would keep hamas in power, keep hamas alive. and the court didn't go for that. on the contrary, it appears that it understood that israel's right to defend itself is the right that every nation has. you can't take that right away from israel, even if the south africans propose that you do and they didn't succeed in that. and that's important. >> but they did suggest that israel needs to change tactics, that israel needs to make sure that there is nothing that is done by forces that could be construed that would be genocide. are you looking at that? will you consider changes to the way you are approaching this

war? >> so we're always looking at how to improve our tactics. you know, on going military operation every day you ask yourselves what lessons can we learn from what happened on the previous day, on a matter of principle -- >> earlier this month our correspondent raf sanchez spoke with the idf spokesman about the three israeli hostages who were shot dead by idf soldiers even though they were waving a white flag. if i can i want to play part of that conversation. >> i heard my commander telling to every soldier in the idf something that is in our moral code, but he repeated it. we do not fire someone with his hands up or holds a white flag. >> but these soldiers did. they must have thought it was okay. >> war is a hard thing to understand. this event should not occur. this tragic event should be

prevented. we have inquired it truthfully, transparently, and we now need to get better. >> and yet, earlier this week a group of palestinian civilians, their hands up waving a white flag came under fire, one died in neighborhood that the israeli military had designated as a safe zone. what do you say to critics, not just the south africans but around the world who say this has to stop, nothing has changed. the idf is killing innocent civilians who pose no threat. >> well, the rules of war are clear and israel abides by them. we don't target innocent civilians. our enemy in this war is the brutal hamas terrorist organization that committed the terrible atrocities of october 7th that has shot thousands of missiles into our country indiscriminately at our cities and continues to keep 130

hostages in gaza abducted against international law, many of them women who are being abused, raped and so forth. they are brutal, a brutal and horrific terrorist organization, and in acting in gaza, we are acting against hamas, and we make a maximum effort to differentiate between the civilian population, who is not our enemy and the hamas terrorist movement, which we want to destroy. and when we do destroy it as we will, that will be good for israel for obvious reasons. that's also good for the people of gaza who deserve better than this terrorist organization that has only brought them poverty, misery and bloodshed. >> no one is doubting the fact that this is a horrific and murderous terrorist organization. no one is disputing that, but when there are people waving a white flag with their hands up, your suggestion is not -- or maybe it is, that they are potentially a danger, that they are hamas? >> so on that particular incident i have unfortunately no

information. i know the idf is looking into it. they're not aware, the last i heard, that it was israeli fire. i also looked at that video very carefully, and there are questions raised about authenticity. but once again, it is unacceptable from our perspective -- it's unacceptable to target civilians and we'll look into it. we have made mistakes as the spokesman of the idf said earlier in the piece, when mistakes are made, we have to learn from them, and we have to make sure they aren't repeated. mistakes, of course, will always happen in war. we've had too much blue on blue where our own soldiers have hit our own soldiers. war is organized confusion, organized chaos. we must do our best, and we do do our best so avoid seeing innocence caught up in the cross fire between the idf, the israeli defense forces and the hamas terrorists. >> i want to ask you about the high stakes hostage negotiations that will take place between top u.s., israeli, and qatari

officials. presumably they would not be making the trip this they didn't think there was some possibility of fruitful conversations there. what is israel's position going into this, and what is your country willing to concede essentially if it will bring the remaining hostages home? what's the deal that you think could happen? >> i obviously can't go publicly into the parameters of our negotiations. but we're very thankful for u.s. support in this process. president biden was crucial in getting the hostage release that we got in november. then we not about 110 people out, mainly women and children that without the help of the president, we would -- they'd still be in a hamas dungeon somewhere in gaza. the americans are helping us now to get hopefully a second group of hostages out. we hope as many as possible. it's difficult, we're dealing with a brutal, horrific interlock tour here that is

hamas, they don't give a hoot about international law. they don't give a hoot about their own people let alone the hostages they've abducted and for all these reasons these negotiations are difficult. i can assure you if there's a realistic chance to bring people home, we will embrace that. we did it in november. we can do it in january. we can do it in february. >> ambassador mark regev, thank you so much for your time, we do appreciate it. still ahead, the republican conundrum, tackle the border crisis or do trump's bidding. how the former president is threatening to derail a major bipartisan deal. l a major bipartisan deal. gh protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.

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the power of donald trump is being challenged on capitol hill today, in a rare rebellion that includes some of his most dependable supporters. the issue, how to solve the border crisis. the opposition stunningly republican senators worried the former president is putting politics ahead of a real opportunity to solve a problem that has plagued congress for years, if not decades by opposing a border bill. >> if we don't take the opportunity now there will be zero democrat votes for exactly the same policy next year. it is immoral for me to think. >> i don't see how we have a better story to tell when we missed the one opportunity we have to fix it, and weed love to

have fixed it but it was election season so i thought i'd wait. >> and someone running for president trying to get the problem solved as opposed to saying save that problem, don't solve it. >> from my point of view, we need relief today, and what we're trying to do will help him if he gets to be president. >> i don't believe we should take this off the table, certainly not to clear the way for a clean campaign debate season. >> well, however, just as they seemed close that carefully crafteddeal, trump wrote on truth social, we need a strong, powerful, and essentially perfect border, and unless we get that, we are better off not making a deal. even if that pushes our country to temporarily close up for a while. nbc's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. tim miller former communications director for jeb bush's '26 campaign and an msnbc political analyst joins us along with nbc's vaughn hillyard here in studio with me. okay, ryan, what's the latest

from your sources on the hill? what's going on there? >> reporter: well, chris, i'd describe this package right now on life support, and life support would still indicate that it has at least a small degree of life and the possibility of finding its way to 60 votes sometime in the near future. and what we saw play out here over the last 48 hours was the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell basically calling out the literal elephant in the room in donald trump and telling his senate colleagues if you're going to listen to donald trump, you need to tell me now and we'll abandon this pursuit, but if you're actually interested in negotiating to try and find some sort of a border package, a border package that from what we're hearing about the way it's being crafted could be the most conservative in a generation, well, then let's talk and let this process play it out. and the way it seems now after that meeting on thursday or wednesday, i should say, the meeting that took place on thursday showed that cooler heads have prevailed. they're going to allow the negotiators to begin the process. the negotiators believe that they could have the legislative text as early as next week.

that will be the next challenge, once they've actually delivered on the policy agreements that they have been negotiating, then we'll get a real read as to whether or not there will be the 60 votes necessary to pass it out of the senate, and then it moves to the house, which is a whole other conversation. they need to cross this hurdle in the senate first. >> "the wall street journal" editorial board is warning republicans that abandoning the border bill would be a self-inflicted wound on the republicans taking an issue that they believe hurts joe biden and instead giving democrats an opening to blame it on republicans. and then on our air last night, gavin newsom gave us a preview of the democratic argument. >> i think it is a disgrace what the republican party is doing, what donald trump is doing, and this is hidden in plain sight. he sent out a tweet or some truth whatever saying kill it, and these guys are so weak, how -- so pathetically weak, this republican party and the new speaker, oh, yes, sir, what

else would you like us to do? we don't care about america. we don't care about our freedoms and liberty, we care about politics exclusively at the expense of the american people because all we care about is winning for winning's sake. that is shameful. >> they may think it's winning, tim, but are republicans potentially snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? >> well, it's kind hard to play that out, chris, not knowing exactly what happens on the border. i think on the merits we know that something needs to be done. and by the way, what's hanging over all of this is ukraine, something needs to be done there as well. we know for a fact that our ally in ukraine is running out of ammunition, and it's republicans in congress's fault, supposedly the party of reagan as the weak link in the entire western world, and they're demanding -- originally they were demanding that this immigration element of the deal be tied to ukraine in order to have any funding for ukraine at all. so i think this stuff is all related and gavin newsom's

messaging is very strong on this, and i think it's pretty shameful what the republicans are doing frankly. >> yeah, you mentioned ukraine as one of the very big real world implications for this, but what about countless hours of work that have been put in, the negotiations on both sides, what again, as ryan points out, they're hearing is maybe the most conservative movement that we've seen in a decade, if not longer, republicans saying they don't think they'll ever get a deal like this again. so to be blunt, what does this mean for america, tim? and at least making a big step forward toward trying to solve what seemed an intractable problem? >> yeah, and those republicans are right. and frankly it was refreshing to hear from thom tillis and todd young, it would have been nice to hear them on the politics, but it was refreshing to hear that they actually care about something because this is true. and look, the democrats aren't going to cut -- if donald trump

wins the presidency next year, of course democrats aren't going to work with him on whatever horrific cruel immigration policy he wants. this is an opportunity to actually do what congress is supposed to do, work together. there are going to be some elements in this that the democratic base doesn't like, i can promise you that when it comes to securing the border , when it comes to some of the changes in the asylum rules. this is an opportunity for republicans to get some wins, but they might not do it because they don't to want -- they don't want mr. trump to be mad at them? it is cowardly, and i think that on the merits of this, it is obviously the right thing to do. >> but i guess vaughn, the question becomes what are you hearing from trump world? is it about the merits? does he have a plan? has he said to republicans this is what would have to be in the plan for it to be a perfect border plan? does he have any idea what what's involved in these

negotiations? >> if he does he isn't revealing them. political reporting we used to try to have a better understanding of the machinations of this type of deal making, in the case of donald trump, whether this is politically calculated or whether there's actual substance he's conveying to speaker johnson, but donald trump isn't doing that. instead we found out mainly about his opposition from speaker johnson directly and fox news laura ingraham. until the statement yesterday afternoon, donald trump is quite specific. he says, quote, our country is in serious trouble. a border teal now would be another gift to the radical left democrats. they need it politically but don't care about our border. what is currently being worked on in the senate would be meaningless. he doesn't go on to articulate how. a border deal now would be another gift to the radical left democrats. i made multiple phone calls to trump officials yesterday afternoon trying to ask them questions about what donald trump exactly was looking for and why he was opposed to this border deal being worked out, and i did not get calls

returned. it was just a few minutes later this statement came out. that's pretty much what we have to work off of. >> do we have any idea what he means by evet pushes our country to close up for a while. >> i'm not sure exactly what that means. but he says because it will end up closing anyway with the unsustainable invasion that is currently taking place, a death wish for the usa. i think this is a moment here where donald trump understands politically for him in new hampshire, let's look at the exit polls coming out of there. folk who is said immigration was the most important issue for him. they voted for him with 80% compared to 20% with nikki haley. at least in this republican primary he sees it as a benefit, and on the campaign trail, i can tell you outside of his political grievances and the revenge tour and his frustrations with the indictments that have come his way, immigration is the next biggest issue, and he so often says that it helped him in 2016, and he didn't talk about it enough in 2020 because everything on the border was good in his words, and this go

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defending last night's first of its kind and deeply controversial nitrogen gas execution of convicted murderer kenneth smith. the state attorney general this morning calling it, quote, no longer an untested method but a proven one. yet, it has once again put the u.s. at the center of an international debate over capital punishment and whether this method in particular constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. here's how one witness described smith's 22-minute long execution earlier on msnbc. >> we saw him begin violently shaking, thrashing against the straps that held him down. this was the fifth execution that identify witness instead alabama, and i've never seen such a violent execution or a violent reaction to the means of execution. >> nbc's marissa parra is following this for us. marissa, what more do we know today? what more are we hearing about this and the future of nitrogen gas executions in alabama and beyond?

>> all valid questions. i'll start by saying for those who don't know nitrogen hypoxia is essentially suffocation by depriving a person of oxygen. this is something that's been used in physician-assisted suicides in europe. critics of capital punishment have weighed in. there are human rights experts for the united nations who weighed in. justice sotomayor likened smith to being used like a guinea pig in her dissent and how last night went depends on who you ask. you mentioned the words from that reporter for tread news who spoke on msnbc earlier this morning saying this was the most violent execution he's seen in the five he witnessed. if you ask the commissioner for alabama's department of corrections, they're going to say something totally different. the attorney general also saying that everything that they saw last night was in line and textbook with the research they're seen on nitrogen hypoxia, that the involuntary movements seen in the minutes after the execution process started was completely in line with that.

we also did hear from the family of the victim, elizabeth senate, of course, the victim at the center of that murder for hire plot. the sons describe it as a somber moment, something they are not celebrating. it won't bring back their mother but they do feel closure from this. we also heard this morning from the attorney general who described, quote, despite international efforts by activists to undermine our justice system, this is what he had to say this morning. >> my colleagues across the country many of which were watching last night, alabama has done it, and now so can you the, and we stand ready to assist you in implementing this method in your states. i do believe based on feedback i've received that other states will follow suit. >> a couple of things, chris, alabama had green lighted the use of nitrogen when lethal injections were coming under fire. the drugs needed to use them were already starting to become

hard to come by, and smith himself had actually been given a lethal injection in 2022, his original execution date was not able to be carried out because it was not successfully administered. that's when he was essentially put on the path to be the first person to be executed by nitrogen hypoxia. oklahoma and mississippi, who states that have also green lighted it. and as the attorney general said they expect other states to follow. >> marissa parra, thank you for that. we are just learning that the jury now has the case against donald trump brought by e. jean carroll for defamation. i want to read from the note of our producer who is inside that courtroom. the judge said that what repains -- remains for you to decide are two limited issues. the jury must decide, he told them, if mr. trump acted maliciously. he also warned them they should accept as true the facts as were explained to them. they've already been decided,

those two things that have been decided is that donald trump did sexually assault e. jean carroll, and that he defamed her. the judge told them you cannot question these facts, in all other respects, however, you are the judges. you will be entirely fair and impartial to both sides, he told them, and decide the case only on the evidence before you. so that's it. that's part of the charg the jury has now. the judge had said earlier he's going to have lunch for them. they can work over lunch. deliberations beginning after closing arguments and e. jean carroll's lawyers asking for $12 million plus for what they say is the ongoing defamation, which was already affirmed by a previous jury. why a republican-appointed federal judge is slamming prominent gop politicians over january 6th and the shocking number of threats and attacks made against local lawmakers in

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a federal judge appointed by president ronald reagan just slammed republicans for calling people convicted of storming the capital on january 6th hostages or political prisoners, and he warned it could lead to future far right violence. nbc's ryan reilly is reporting on this. what exactly did he say? >> so the judge has been two re covered where you have two conspiracy theorists before him, one of whom was convicted of attacking law enforcement officers and taking a sovereign citizen, didn't participate in the trial and didn't think that he was subject to the rules of the court. and then, you know, you had a similar defendant who was very lost in conspiracy theories, seemed to think he was on a version of the truman show and everyone around him was a federal agent. he was surrounded by federal

informants and everything in his life had been a set up leading up to and after january 6th. so really people who are just disconnected from reality, and what i think the judge was really frustrated here with, royce lambert, was frustrated there were a lot of people supporting that, telling people who believe these really sort of fringe crazy conspiracy theories that there's something to them, that they're right. you have public support of people who have, i think, have clearly some sort of mental issues underlying, have someone they can point to and say this person is supporting what they are saying publicly. he says this could be a real threat going forward because when you have everyone spun up and you have support for people who are committing these crimes, that could have dangerous consequences, you know, that's what we saw in the lead up to january 6th. a lot of people believing in crazy conspiracy theories, and that's sort of what he's warning we're seeing now is a lot of people believing these crazy

conspiracy theories that could end up not in a good place, chris. >> ryan reilly, thank you for the update. appreciate it. that warning by judge lambert is backed up in shocking detail by a new study showing the widespread impact of escalating threats and intimidation faced by local elected officials. the brennan center surveyed 350 state legislatures and more than 1,350 local officials. more than 40% of state lawmakers have experienced threats or attacks in the past three years. nearly 1 in 10 state officials were intimidated by someone with a weapon. and nearly all, almost 90% suffered harassment, intimidation, and stalking. one lawmaker sharing a story of a death threat she got. it was like date, time, location specific. they were going to kill me and then go to the police station and blow themselves up and take as many officers with them as possible. i want to bring in the deputy director of democracy program at

the brennan center for justice. thank you for being with us, gowry, this study frankly is filled with terrifying statements by officials. mary gonzalez talks about being on the legislative floor, especially when we're having the controversial debate, god, one person, it just takes one person, we're like sitting ducks. how have threats and intimidation impacted how elected officials do their job? what did your study find? >> well, what we found in our study is that all of there's threats, intimidation and abuse at the state and local level where a lot of folks don't have the kinds of resources that national public figures have, it's impacting so many aspects of the way that people do their jobs. so very large numbers of state and local office holders told us that they are less willing to lead on contentious issues, for

example, reproductive rights and common sense gun safety regulation because of all the threats and abuse. people told us in these surveys and in interviews that they're less willing to run for reelection, they're less willing to run for higher office, so really cutting off that pipeline of diversifying and improving the candidate poolt the national level. they also told us they're less willing to engage with their constituents on social media, so we're losing the opportunity for voters to really learn what their leaders think on important issues. and really what was most striking to me is that our data includes people from every single state in the country, republicans, democrats, women, men, white office holders, office holders of color, lgbt folks. it's really across the board that this level of abuse is

happening. >> i was thinking that one of the hallmarks, right, of local government, even state government, members of congress, is that you're accessible, right, to the folks who got you there. you set up a table at a fair or outside a local grocery store or in a local school and you answer questions, and people line up. are you hearing from them that they are even afraid to do those kinds of things, that there is concern wherever they go about their safety? >> yeah, really sobering finding is that many legislators told us, yes, because of those threats, because of this intimidation, i am less willing to hold public events. i'm less willing to travel alone. and traveling alone is one of those things that really burdened women and people of color significantly. so women were more than six times as likely to say that they're less willing to travel alone because of these threats

and abuse. and the numbers just go up even higher when you look at women of color. it was 55% of women of color reported that they were less willing to travel alone, and, you know, the thing that's really heartbreaking is in the interviews, you know, legislators and local office holders, they get into this job because they want to serve the public. they want to talk to their constituents. they want to be available. they welcome disagreement. they just don't want to fear for their safety and the safety of their families and children. >> i heartily recommend people go to the web site and look at this. there's a lot that has been written on it. it is eye opening. gowri, thank you so much, we really appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, jury deliberations get underway in the e. jean carroll trial. katy tur will pick up our coverage as we wait to see just how much donald trump will have to pay for defamation. i'll see you right back here on monday.

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