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. good to be with you. quote, he's not as powerful as we think he is. donald trump, the former president of the united states
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sexually abused a woman and publicly defamed her even after he was ordered by a court of law to stop. now, another jury is deciding not just how much he should be held liable for the damage his words have done, but how much he should be punished for those words as well. in other words, how much money he should pay e. jean carroll in punitive damages, just like yesterday, the courtroom was wild again today, judge kaplan, again, admonished alina habba for arguing with his rulings, this time telling her, quote, you are on the verge of spending some time in lockdown. now sit down. then after the jury was brought in and e. jean carroll's lawyer was in the middle of her closing statements, donald trump abruptly stood up and walked out of the court according to our reporters in the room. that's when the judge said, quote, the record will reflect that mr. trump rose and walked out of the courtroom, said the judge. what did carroll's lawyers say that got under his skin and how
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will they react. they have seen a week of donald trump grumbling under his breath, interrupting proceedings, defying the judge and storming out. does his behavior help or hurt him? and if it hurts, what's the point. joining us outside the courthouse is msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. they have had the case now for about an hour. what can you tell us they're going to be considering. >> reporter: you know, one of the things that i think is important to point out so i have papers flying out here. we have been referring to a case where e. jean carroll's lawyers are going to ask for $10 million in damages but actually today, they asked for at least $24 million just in compensatory damages, and here's how they broke that up. they said the statements donald trump made about their client on june 21st, 2019, june 22nd, 2019, cost her approximately
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$12 million and harmed her reputation. that's because they had an expert on the stand who said based on her understanding of what it cost to repair a reputation and how you mount what she calls a reputation restoration campaign. that's the upper end of what it would cost to do that. to hire influencers and other people in the popular culture to say positive things about e. jean carroll and bring her reputation to what it had been as a popular writer, journalist and advice columnist. here's the second part of that. e. jean carroll also suffered pain, emotional anguish, mental harm from donald trump's defamation, according to her lawyers, and they say that pain, the pain she suffered from the death threats, rape threats, threats of locking her up, those are worth as much if not more. they urged the jury, award her 24 million if not more to
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compensate for her injuries, and when it comes to punitive damages, if you find donald trump acted with malice, and indeed, he did, you should make it hurt. you should make him pay dearly for his deaf nation of our client. the other thing that i want to point out to you is that this case really involves two very different conceptions of the jury. you know, the jury here has been told that they have to take as a given the former finding by a jury that donald trump defamed e. jean carroll and that he sexually assaulted her. alina habba tried to diminish that finding in front of this jury, saying it was only a jury finding, as if to suggest they don't have to take it as seriously. it didn't come from a judge or an appeals court. judge kaplan was having none of that. it is a verdict of this court. it is the law. and then when it was time for him to instruct the jury, judge kaplan gave the jury his own view of their importance.
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starting with the preamble to the constitution, we the people of the united states, and explain to them that the importance of juries sitting in judgment of their peers appears on our united states constitution not once, but twice, that what they are doing here is foundational to our democracy, and indeed, the court in which they are sitting as jurors, the united states district court for the southern district of new york has existed since 1799 before the first term even of the united states supreme court. i can tell you that i and other journalists who were there felt that judge kaplan was trying to impugn upon the jury this notion that what they are doing is integral to our democratic system and to imbue them with a sense of responsibility. >> we got the verdict form from the court, lisa, and i know we're trying to work this up so we can show it on the screen. there are three different questions. >> reporter: i have it here too. >> ms. carroll suffered more
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than the nominal damages as a result of mr. trump's publication of the june 21st, 22nd statements, yes or no, if yes, insert the dollar amount for compensatory damages you award other than for the reputation repair program. if no, write $1. if yes, insert the dollar amount for compensatory damages for the reputation repair program, if no, lever blank. then number two, in making the june 21st, 2019, statement, mr. trump acted maliciously out of hatred, ill will or spite, vindictively or in wanton, reckless or willful disregard of ms. carroll's rights, yes or no, and then three, in making the june 22nd, 2019, statement, mr. trump asked maliciously, out of hand, ill will, out of hatred, spite, vindictively, willful disregard of ms. carroll's wills, how much if any should
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mr. trump pay to ms. carroll in punitive damages. that's a number that could get quite high. can you refresh my memory, lisa, on the june 22nd, 2019, statement that they're referring to? >> reporter: yeah, so this case, katy, concerns two statements that donald trump made on june 21st, 2019, that's the day in which the cut, an online publication affiliated with new york magazine first published excerpt from e. jean carroll's book, "what do we need men for," it was a chapter about her assault by donald trump. and later that day, within about that five-hour window that you and i were discussing earlier on air, donald trump issued his first denial with respect to e. jean carroll in his own name, as opposed to the white house just telling the cut that the president denied that the incident happened. on june 21st at approximately 5:17. donald trump issued a statement in which he said, it never
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happened. he didn't know her. that it was a false story, that she was likely a paid political operative, and if anybody had information about her, they should contact him and that people who make false accusations, like e. jean carroll should pay dearly. on june 22nd, then, the next day, donald trump was about to leave on marine one on the white house lawn. he made statements to reporters, during which he was asked about a picture that has loomed large in the e. jean carroll trials. it's a picture in 1987 of donald trump at a charity event that he and his then wife are greeting e. jean carroll. joining us now, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance and former chief spokesperson for vice president kamala harris, and cohost of msnbc's "the weekend," symone sanders townsend and worked on president biden's campaign. donald trump, since june 22nd,
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2019, has repeatedly gone after e. jean carroll, after he was found to sexually assault her. he's continue to go deny the allegation, continuing to claim she's lying about everything. how material are his current statements or his statements post june 22nd and june 21st of 2019 to what the jury is deciding. >> they're incredibly important, katy. and you saw that as you went through the verdict form where in order to award punitive damages, the jury has to find donald trump made the statements with malice, which roughly means some form of ill intent and intent to do harm for carroll. you would think that once a jury made the decision that these statements were defamatory. if trump didn't intend to do her harm, he would have stopped making them. it's a fabulous data point for carroll's lawyers to be able to present to the jury. >> in trying to decide punitive damages, carroll's lawyers cite the price that donald trump says mar-a-lago is worth, which is
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more than a billion dollars. does that work in trying to get them to award her a high dollar amount? >> it's an interesting benchmark. will the jury decide to give e. jean carroll mar-a-lago. punitive damages are always very much up to the jury. this case will be no different, for instance, from the rudy giuliani case, where the jury awarded $148 million in punitive damages. that isn't to say the high end numbers stick. often they're reduced by the trial court or a court on appeals. >> politically speaking, this, again, a judge in a courtroom has said donald trump, the former president who's currently running for president again has sexually abused a woman, that there's no question about it. it's not an allegation any longer. it has happened, he sexually abused her, and he's lying about it, and asking the jury to award that woman what they think she deserves in damages. and i wonder politically
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speaking, do you think president biden's campaign is doing enough to make sure that the public knows about this. is this a big deal or is it just donald trump. so people kind of shrug their shoulders. >> i think it's a big deal, katy, for two reasons. i think first it's a big deal because powerful people often times believe that they can get away with literally anything. donald trump who believes he is a powerful person has literally said he believes he could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone and not be met with consequences. he's claiming that he can have presidential immunity for potentially assassinating a rival and should not be met with consequences if one is the president. it's important because a jury decides, like came to the conclusion that donald trump sexually assaulted and rained e. jean carroll, and e. jean carroll's lawyers said she
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brought the suit to try to get donald trump to stop defaming her, stop from talking about her, i could not imagine. there are many women across the country that have had an experience similar to e. jean carroll. i am one of those women. i cannot imagine if i had to continuously take the man that raped me to court to get him to stop talking about me. it's important for that reason. it's also important, i think, politically like, oh, my god, should a rapist be president of the united states of america. i can't believe i have to utter that statement, and so you ask, is the biden campaign doing enough? i have not seen the campaign itself for the democratic national committee specifically lift this particular piece. i think they're not trying to overtly politicize it in that way, my read from the outside looking in. but i think this is something everyone should know about, regardless of who you voted for in the last election. >> i think he should, when it's all said and done. the way the president has said
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he views the legal process in this country, which i don't think is a wrong reading is that it should play out, folks should have their day in court, donald trump included, and when this is all said and done after the jury deliberates, i hope we hear from the president and vice president, who spent the bulk of her career. >> the court decided he sexually abused her, now it's about damages. now a really interesting opinion on msnbc.com from liz lens, and she wtes, quote, and it's a bit long, bear with me, the story we'reatching unfold with e. jean carroll, it's n one of derning guilt or innocence or empng with a woman's vicmition or casting doubt on her story. a jury determined tha trump sexually abused her, and now what we areermining is how much that will cost him. culturally it has cost him little if anything. he remains popular i his party running as the nominee, even his
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few critics will get in line to support him as they have before. through eourt cases, croll is trying to change th narrative. she has never wavered from her pursuit of consequence. she's as less and dermtd as the attacks on her have been terrifying. she's proving that people who abuse are not invincible, there is a way to hold them accountable. she goes on to write, she's doing what no one else has the guts to do. she's showing that trump isn't as powerful as we think he is. his march over the country and our rights can be curtailed. carroll is refuse to go accept the power of his attacks and in the process she's revealing how little power he has when face-to-face with the law. joyce. interesting. >> i think it's very important. as you know, i know e. jean carroll well, and she's doing something that sexual assault
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victims in this country have the power to do under the law. she's confronting the man who assaulted her, even if it's years after the fact. for cultural reasons, at the time this took place, many women remained silent. she was part of that culture. now she's reclaiming her voice and in the process, i think she's reclaiming all of our voices. >> joyce vance, symone sanders, thank you so much for joining us. and we will be watching at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, "the weekend" on msnbc. you did super well last week, and i expect it to continue. thanks for being with us, ladies. still ahead, why some republican senators say they are appalled by what their party is doing to sink border negotiations, plus what led the state department halt funding for a u.n. agency. and if you're scheduled to fly out of seattle today at 2:20 pacific time. you might want to keep on watching. we're back in 60 seconds. high ,
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the border is an important issue for donald trump, and the fact that he would communicate to republican senators and congress people that he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame biden for it is really appalling. >> it is immoral for he to think you'd look the other w because you think this is the lynch pin for president trump to win. >> i do not want to be aart of history that fails democracy, and that's a failure if we don't find a way to fund ukraine and israel. >> as you heard, some senate republicans are horrified over the way the party is bending to the will of the man who might be the next republican nominee. appalled that they would give up a chance to actually make things better for americans and fear that it might make a political campaign harder for one man. joining us now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ryan nobles. mitt romney, senator tillis
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there both voted to convict donald trump last go around for the last impeachment. they clearly have not been a fan of donald trump for some time now. is what they're saying, though, felt by anyone else in the republican party in the senate? >> yeah, i think there's quite a few republican members that are very concerned that the opportunity to pass what many would consider to be the most conservative border package in a generation, if they just allow that to go by the wayside because of presidential politics would be a massive mistake. it's not just that group of republicans who aren't necessarily fans of donald trump, who voted to impeach him, even some of his closest supporters and allies have said that this is an opportunity that needs to be seized. among them, lindsey graham, who i spoke to yesterday on this topic, and said that he's talked to donald trump about why this package is necessary, and it would be good for him, even if he were to win the presidential election because it would give him a set of tools that the executive branch currently doesn't have.
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so there is no doubt an existential crisis happening within the republican party, it's certainly happening on the senate side, happening even more on the house side where there are republican members who would be inclined under any normal political environment to support a package like this, not just because of the border components, katy, but also because of the foreign aid to israel and ukraine, but just are afraid to do so because of the political backlash that donald trump brings and the fact that he is on the record now and very vocal about the idea that unless they get everything, they should just walk away and take nothing. >> ryan nobles, thank you. joining us is former republican congressman, charlie dent. republicans if they don't do this, the border is still a crisis, the president goes -- the former president goes out and says look at the border, it's so terrible. president biden is doing nothing. is that argument, then, undercut? >> absolutely it's undercut, and by the way, senators, tillis and graham are absolutely right.
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republicans need to act on this. by failing to act on it for these naked, cynical, political reasons, they hand democrats the issue. right now, joe biden is being blamed for the border mayhem. republicans are walking away from a deal that gets significant immigration, and asylum reform. they will now own this border chaos. i think it's terrible and further this is going to impact the ability to fund iran, ukraine, and israel. if that does not happen, i mean, republicans could own the failure of ukraine in its war against russia. just as joe biden was justifiably blamed for the afghanistan fiasco, republicans will be blamed for what happens in ukraine that empowers vladimir putin, so the politics of this are not good for the gop. it's all being driven by a rumpling of the gop, particularly in the house that would not vote for a compromised deal. they don't want to support
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ukraine. frankly what's happened is it has been given voice. they are allowed to prevail, even though their opinion is a minority of the whole congress. >> can you explain, leave the politics aside, can you explain why the deal is so significant, what the deal would do, and why this is the opportunity to pass it. >> we haven't seen text yet, but it appears they're going to make significant changes to the asylum process, which is being abused, most of the people showing up at the border are economic migrants, desperately poor, they need a better living condition. they're not legitimate asylum cases, and i think that asylum reform is something that the gop has been clamoring for. they need to take this opportunity to get it done. it's not like as if donald trump, if he becomes president next year, that he'll be able to get a better deal. the issue really becomes to republicans, why wouldn't you take a significant win, even if it's not everything you want, why not take it and celebrate
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that, they can criticize joe biden if they like, that he hasn't done enough. they're putting themselves in such a horrible position because the substance of what's being advanced is what the gop has been asking for. >> it's also what the american public has been asking for. reform at the border because what's currently happening is not tenable. former congressman charlie dent, good to have you, thanks for joining us. the former republican congresswoman who was encouraging nikki haley to stay in the race, fist up, though, why secretary of state, that's not secretary of state antony blinken, we're going to find the tape, don't worry, but you know what he looks like. he's calling for an investigation into a u.n. agency that provides relief to palestinians. don't go anywhere. explore the wg way from the quiet comfort of elegant small ships with no children and no casinos. we actually have reinvented ocean voyages, designing all-inclusive experiences
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the united nations agency that aids palestinians has terminated the contracts of 12 employees who israel is accused of being involved in the hamas
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terror attack on october 7th. while the u.n. conducts its own internal investigation into the allegations, the u.s. state department says it has paused all new funding for the program. meanwhile, the international court of justice has ordered that israel do everything it can to prevent access of genocide in gaza. and to allow more aid into the region. the 17 judge panel stopped short of ordering a cease fire in gaza that prompted a palestinian outcry that the court didn't go far enough. joining us from tel aviv is nbc news foreign correspondent raf sanchez, i want to get to both stories. can you explain the accusations against these 12 employees? >> reporter: israel is saying these 12 employees took part in the october 7th attack against israel, not clear exactly what they're accused of, whether they were members of hamas who actually spearheaded the attack inside israel or if they were part of this mob that passed through the fence once it was breached. but the u.n. says it's taking
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this very seriously. it says it has fired all 12 employees, launched a major investigation. secretary of state antony blinken was informed about this on wednesday according to the state department. he spoke to the secretary general of the united nations yesterday, and today the u.s. announcing it is suspending additional funding to unra, that is potentially a major blow to the agency, which is sheltering, feeding, hundreds of thousands of palestinians in gaza right now. the u.s. is the single largest donor to unra giving some $300 million last year. and the state department says it has briefed members of congress on the situation. and now, explain what's happening at the hague. >> so this was an interim ruling in the case that south africa brought against israel accusing it of genocide. it is sort of the international law equivalent of an injunction.
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it's going to be years before the court rules on the merit of the case. it found there is enough potential evidence of genocide that it ordered israel to do everything within its power to prevent genocide, and to preserve any evidence that could be part of this case. now, prime minister netanyahu rejecting these allegations of genocide as outrageous, and i spoke to a member of his right wing party earlier. i want you to take a listen to a little bit of that interview. >> the israeli government tried to get this case thrown out, and the international court of justice said there is enough evidence of potential genocide that there is a case to hear. what's your response to that? >> from the beginning it was a take case against israel, about a fake genocide, blaming us for genocide. that's absurd. we saw that hamas is using south africa to apply diplomatic terrorism as well. and they were successful because now we are actually discussing this idea, and all over the
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world people are talking about the idea of a genocide in gaza, and we all know it's a lie. >> reporter: now, the court stopped short of ordering israel to halt its military operations in gaza, but palestinians are hailing this as a victory because they say the very fact the court believes there is enough evidence of potential genocide to continue this case is a landmark legal decision by this international court of justice and they are hoping as this case continues the court might potentially find israel in breach of the genocide. >> raf sanchez, thank you very much. >> and joining us now, middle east director for the international communities organization, gershon baskin, initiating the peace negotiations that led to the release of gilad, and aaron david miller. i want to know what you make of the interim ruling.
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before i get there, i want to point something out that i read in the atlantic today about some of the accusations being leveled against the war cabinet, even in this international court about what members of the war cabinet who by the way, who are in charge of the war have said about gaza, and quotes were used to prove that they had genocidal intent. one of the quotes was gaza will not return to what it was before, we will eliminate it all. this was the idf chief saying this on october 7th. turns out that a key part of that quote wasn't included in a lot of news stories, including an npr, "the new york times," "the washington post," the full quote was gaza will not return to what it was before. there will be no hamas. we will eliminate it all. which is, you know, a key part of that quote. seems to be referring to hamas, not all of gaza. in light of that, what do you make of the ruling today? >> this conflict has driven
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people to their corners and suspended in my judgment, rational thinking and debate. i mean, without minimizing for a minute or materializing the degree of destruction that the israelis have caused in trying to eliminate hamas, as a terror organization and the exponential rise in palestinian deaths. it seems to me that the court issued what i would describe as a rhetorical victory for palestinians, and those who would argue that if israel -- if you cannot demonstrate intent to commit genocide, that the israelis have it in mind anyway. there's very little practical impact on this ruling to require a u.n. security council resolution in order to make these provisional measures effective. and i think the u.s. was, i would argue correctly, believed that these accusations of genocide. tomorrow's international holocaust remembrance day are
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unfounded. i think that it's right. but i think from a political propaganda standpoint, the fact that the israelis are even associated with genocide or potential genocide, it's only the fourth time in the history of the icj that the genocide matter and issue has been seriously discussed, so again, i think it's a real rebuke to israel. i think the israelis are right to be worried and concerned. and right to be outraged, frankly by the accusations. one last point, katy, i think it will add, frankly to where i think we're going anyway. which is a deescalation of the israeli ground campaign. pressure from the hostage families, rising casualties, pressure from the biden administration, all of this to me is pointing to by the middle of february, there ought to be a major change in the way the israelis are operating in central and southern gaza. >> certainly mounting pressure. let me ask you about negotiations.
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the cia director in the united states, bill burns is headed to europe, widely respected in the middle east region, has served there for the united states in the past. he's going to speak with qatari officials and israeli officials to try to negotiate an extended cease fire in exchange for the rest of the hostages. what do you think the conversation is going to sound like, and do you think it's possible? >> i think the israelis are trying to get a deal that would release all the hostages and hamas is not ready to make a deal that would release all the hostages because their demands include an end to the war, an israeli withdrawal from gaza, and the release of all palestinian prisoners in israel, and israel is not ready for that. what i understand from talking to the israelis in charge of the hostage issue is that they're seeking a kind of interim agreement, at least the civilian hostages would be released, the elderly, the sick, the wounded, the remaining women who were
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there, expected to be two children, who are still alive, hopefully, and that israel would agree to release a large number of prisoners, and an extended pause or cease fire for a month, perhaps two months, but israel is not ready to surrender to all the demands of hamas, which they believe would be very dangerous for israel and for the whole region, for that matter, for hamas to have that kind of victory. >> where do you think public opinion is right now within israel about the status of the war, gershon? >> i heard from the families that in their latest survey that they did, there's now between 50 and 60 percent of the public who do support an all for all deal, and even ending the war if necessary in order to bring the hostages home. there's no doubt there's gaining on the cause of releasing the hostages for those prices to be paid, i would remind everyone that there's no problem for israel essentially to renew the
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war once the hostages are out or for that matter to rearrest palestinian prisoners who might be released by israel. there are no guarantees that anyone could give hamas, anyone willing to give hamas that israel would not renew the water for that matter. >> in terms of what might happen next if a negotiated cease fire were possible or even an extended one, the international community is calling for a two-state solution, very cloudily. the united states is as well. benjamin netanyahu has been adamantly against it. what happens? >> katy, i think 2024 is going to be the year of gaza. i think it's important, should the israelis support two states, which they won't, the key to get the arab states involved in reconstruction, manager, assistance, and normalization with israel will be israel's acceptance of two states. i don't think this particular government would. should biden get a second term, and should there be leadership
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changes in israel, and additional changes on the palestinian side? i think it's conceivable that a better pathway for israelis and palestinians would be found, but i see no way to make a two-state solution more than a thought experiment. >> thank you, gentlemen for joining us today. we appreciate it. coming up, boeing's max 9 planes are about to be back in the air. but are they safe? what you should know before you board. first, though, what liz cheney is encouraging nikki haley to do. if you're like m, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.
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only two states have cast ballots in the gop primary, just two. and that's about 400,000 people total. yet the rnc wanted to pass a resolution declaring donald trump the presumptive nominee. even as nikki haley continues to campaign. but when folks got word of the plan, there was such a swift backlash, the whole thing was scuttled, why did they try it in the first place, especially when declaring him the winner so early, might make him worry donald trump could lose. joining us now, vaughn hillyard. what is the deal with this? >> donald trump said he does not want this resolution to go forward at next week's rnc winter meeting in las vegas, and instead he wants to win it the old school way. >> why would he say that, it
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seems weird he would say that. >> he's worked so hard to work in his favor. at the same time, eight years ago before the cleveland convention, donald trump frs claiming that the rnc was rigging the process against him in the early primary days, so it would be a little bit of irony eight years later to try to end this. >> didn't he accuse ted cruz's dad of being involved in the killing of jfk around this time. >> that was all happening, a big plot to try to take away the nomination from donald trump, the whole release the delegate effort, so that ted cruz could take up what amounts to a coup, and donald trump was fearful that these party activists were going to take it away from him. now he wants to make the case that in fact the voters wanted him and this is not a party takeover on his behalf. >> he was threatening violence in the street, not hearing that from nikki haley. >> liz let's listen. >> i hope she stays in the race.
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you know, as long as she has to. i think certainly, you know, through super tuesday. i think that we're in a situation where only two states have voted, and you had something like, you know, over 35%, i believe, of the republicans coming out of the voting in new hampshire said they would never vote for donald trump. and so we're obviously, you know, looking at a significant portion of the republican party that is supporting him. but ultimately this is going to be about being able to win independents. and in a general election, surely nikki haley fares much better than donald trump does. >> so it's more than just independents, isn't the accepted wisdom that you need 90% of any given party in order to win a presidency? you got to have a lock on your party, and then you probably also need some independents as well, but without a lock on your party, you've got no chance. donald trump doesn't have a lock
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on his party. he has a lock on a large portion of the party, certainly large enough to get him the nomination to probably run away with it, but there are a lot of republicans like liz cheney, like some nikki haley voters out there who say they do not want donald trump. does the campaign hear that? do they see it? do they worry about it? >> allies that want a republican in the white house do, but for donald trump there's an understanding among his campaign team today that there is no controlling donald trump, and that donald trump is not going to suddenly start trying to make a play for independents. >> better question, does the rnc see it? the rnc wants the white house? >> totally, but donald trump can't be controlled. that's why his small campaign team is different than eight years ago. >> why wouldn't they be rooting nikki haley, someone that could help him win the white house. >> this is donald trump's republican party, anybody that pushes back against him, they're thrown off the cliff, they're
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irrelevant. this was a change in week chblt -- in week. he's already gotten rid of mike pence and ron desantis and these other candidates. he's had all the fun i think he's going to have in the year of 2024. now this is the part where all of the criticism, the most direct attacks from the one republican left standing, nikki haley, are coming and at that point we're going to start getting verdicts out of not only this jury here today, but also in simple fraud trial, the criminal trials are going to begin. the democrats are going to start putting resources into donald trump, it's not going to be much fun for donald trump. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. coming up, the warning a reagan appointed judge overseeing january 6th cases is giving republican lawmakers who are seeking to, in his words, re-write history. and after the alaska airlines door blew out of the plane, the boeing max 9 is back in the air. we'll tell you where it's taking off from and when in just a moment. care. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective,
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our financial planning tools and advice can help you prepare for today's longer retirement. hi mom. that's the value of ownership. buckle up because alaska airlines is putting its boeing 737 max 9s back in the air. the first flight is scheduled to take off from seattle at 2:20 pacific. that's 5:20 here in new york. the fleet is back up just weeks after a door blew off one of the planes midflight. joining us now is tom costello. he has more. >> reporter: yeah, katy, this alaska airlines max 9, the first
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one returning to flight happening at 2:20 today, i will tell you it's a flight that goes from seattle down to san diego. flight 1146. it comes three weeks to the day, of course, since that midair emergency over portland when the door plug exploded out of the side of the plane. every max 9 nationwide was grounded. as a result of that alaska airlines, united airlines and all of them are now being and have been thoroughly inspected under faa rules and regulations to make sure that they don't find any other problems. several of the airlines have said they have found loose bolts around their door plugs. they've been tightening all of that up in this incredibly thorough process that can take 10 to 12 hours of inspecting each door plug on each plane. two door plugs per plane. in the meantime, ntsb investigators back in the facility in washington state where boeing produces the max 9, and yesterday we can tell you that boeing really did a quality
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and safety stand-down under pressure to figure out what the heck has happened to their quality control on the production line that would allow something like this to happen. a flawed piece to come through their assembly line and onto a plane they sold to alaska airlines. in the meantime, the ntsb also saying they expect to have a preliminary ruling or an announcement next week about this incident that happened over portland. essentially they're looking at the metallurgy report and hope they can tell from that metallurgy report, was there ever a bolt in or bolts in that door plug supposedly connected then to the fuselage? that's a critical component of this investigation as now we have members of congress calling for a full bipartisan investigation into the cultural breakdown on quality control at boeing itself. by the way, if you find out you're flying a max 9 when you go to make a reservation, you can change your flight without
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those condemning misinformation including prominent politicians saying, quote, in my 37 years on the bench, i cannot recall a time wn such meritss justifications of criminal activity have gone mainstream. also, quote, court fears that such destructive uided rhetoric could presage fther danger to our c and, quote, this was not patriotism, it was the antithesis of
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patriotism. joining me now is ryan reilly. who is the judge and who was he sentencing. >> judge royce lamberth was resentencing an individual who actually appealed their sentence, it was a split sentence previously where they had to serve some time on probation, some time behind bars, so this was a resentencing hearing because while they won their appeal the judge actually ended up throwing more jail at them because of the falsehoods this individual spread. it was really quite an extraordinary comment from judge lamberth where he has individuals that are lost to conspiracy theories online, who think that it was a quote, unquote fedsurrection. and he really like leaned into there and said i have been dismayed to see the dions and falsehoods seem into the public consciousness. i have been shocked to watch some public figures try to writ history claimg rioters behaved in an ordinarily fashion
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like ordinary tourists or martyrizing convictedry 6th defendants as political prisoners or even incy hostages. that is all preposterous but the court fears tt such destructive misguided rhetoric could precede future danger to our country. he didn't refer to any republican politicians by name but it's obvious who he is referring to the quotes that he used including elise stefanik who you can hear here calling the individuals hostages. >> unfortunately, we did not have time to play that sound, ryan, i'm sorry. she did say i have concerns about the january 6th hostages. with treatment of prisoners, she said this on "meet the press." that's going to do it for me. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hey, everyone, it is 4:00 in washington, d.c.

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