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take a listen. >> what do you make of the fact that yesterday, this jury said he has to pay $83 million to e. jean carroll? >> yes, i'm disappointed. she waited 30 something years to say that she was sexually assaulted, -- >> what do you hope to hear from him today about that? >> i hope to hear from him that he's going to have it repealed.

>> you want him to appeal? >> yeah,. appeal >>. >> and you know, the things these folks here really tell us, they want to hear him talk about today are the economy, the border wall, the immigration, they say that these trials, this decision yesterday is going to have no impact on the election, and it's just going to fire up his supporters,. alex >> interesting, let's pivot to democrats, liz, who are focusing on las vegas as well. what we know about vice president kamala harris's trip there to sin city? >> yeah, so she will be here as well today after a campaign swing the last three days in california. today is the first day of early voting in the fryer here. no coincidence that she is here, it is the first time nevada is having this primary. the democratic led legislature here pushed for a primary instead of the traditional caucuses, so that's a big reason why she is here. people started to get their ballots in the mail, vice president will be here, campaigning with a congressman

who was running for reelection. surely stumping for him. she has to campaign events, talking about businesses, small businesses, and the economy. and interestingly, one of those events will coincide exactly with trump's rally here, so, we should be hearing them speak at the same time. not too far away from each other here in las vegas. >> okay, got, that busy schedule for kamala harris. plus, do stay with me please. i want to bring in nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly, and tristan snell, former assistant new york attorney general. he led and prosecuted the successful fraud investigation against trump university, so guys, welcome. ryan, we're going to start this big old number. 83 point $3 million. it is a lot more than e. jean carroll's lawyer even asked for. how did the jury get there? >> you know, i think you have to look to his behavior in the courtroom, for indications. that jury here, the judge essentially, instructed them the jurors not to identify themselves, or at, least that was his advice to them, not a formal instruction.

, other side of. i, so we're not going to hear necessarily from the jurors themselves, but we do know how he behaved in the courtroom. yesterday, and that seems to be you know what led to this sort of massive judgment here. you know, the punitive damages are roughly in the range that you could expect that to be upheld on appeal, because they appeal you, know if it's too far beyond what the actual damages or, then he's punitive damages are gonna be a different set. but they're within that range that this could potentially, you know, be upheld on appeal, so even though you have a lot of people, folks in trump's world wanting him to appeal this, that's not a guarantee certainly for him. maybe they bring it out a little bit, but at the end of this, it seems as of donald trump is ultimately going to be paying a pretty massive penalty. and part of that, we could probably tribute to his behavior in the courtrm. >> sure looks that way. tristan, the jury that found trump liable for sexually assaulting carroll awarded $5 million. this jury?

awards for 83 million for defamation. so, basically, all that he was saying about her, how do you count for wide gulf though, and one of donald trump have to pay 83 point $3 million? >> so, the gulf is because of the fact that he keeps ongoing and defaming her over and over again. the bulk of this 83 million is in punitive damages. these are meant to be punishment and a deterrent against other people engaging in the same kind of behavior. but really, trump has dug his own grave here. he has been the one continuing to talk about carroll over and over and over again. every time he does so, he is making the situation worse. he then tried to deny the rape on the stand in the other day, even though he had been told by the judge not to. his lawyer have been ordered not to do so. he did it again, rejected mueller's them, said that it should be strict to the record and the jury should disregard, and any storms out of the

courtroom. what does he think is going to happen? he's done this to himself. he has only himself, and alina habba, at the. blame asked for what he's gonna pay it, that regiment last year, he did have to put up money, even though it was pending appeal. i believe that's probably going to have to happen again. that's the way these things normally work, so, he is going to have to put up the money, even if he's borrowing it, it could get knocked down to $60 million but the odds that is going to get overturned entirely are vanishing low. it's gonna be a very big loss from. >> i want to make clear, he was not convicted on charges of rape and convicted on charges of sexual aault, so, i want to be real clear on that. so, there's drama here courtroom, also it's pretty a testy exchanges and sells you

were on on the verge you violate my instructors again, bob, out may be consequences. and then, when harper tried straight down the assault, judge caplan told her, the fact that mr. trump sexually assaulted miss carroll's established. how biden pushed back, saying it was established by a jury, and church caplan said, it is established and you will not quarrel with me. so tristan, is there a logical way to interpret trump and his team's antics? i mean, do you think this is really what influence the jury? ryan says, this has got to be it. >> i think it's a huge part of it, and overall, what he really trying to do i think it's backfired i talk a lot about this in my book coming up, and but he was really trying to go the judge into overreacting and creating -- that could be appealed, and he was trying to get in the heads

of his opponents. he failed all of that. the other thing he was doing and has been doing by coming to all of these cases is that he's playing to his crowd. he is trying to engage and a martyr act with a lot of self pity to try to calm his supporters into giving him more money to pay for all of this. that's really the biggest thing that he's doing, everything else he is trying to do legally has backfired. all he did was under showing a spectacular disrespect for the court and the entire system and so to tapa. i would hope and expect that there will still be fines levied against them for violations court orders, because that is not how anybody aid in the system. i don't care what your viewpoint is, what your argument, is, you don't treat a judge and a jury and the entire system with such flagrant this respect. >> yeah, and listen, since i opened the story of being perfectly clear on everything, he was found liable. it was a civil trial, not a

criminal trial, found liable of sexual abuse. so, even the word assault, that would be associated with a criminal trial, not with a civil trial. so, let's be real clear about that. here's my next question. here's a former trump lawyer tim trump -- said about trump's legal strategy at this trial. take a listen. >> for my perspective, i would regret having a representative. -- her represented. i think both of these cry, he was essentially undefended. this goes back to a jury is going to come up with a number, and you have to put on the best presentation to them in the courtroom. the attorney is the one who should be telling the clients how to act, what to be doing everything else. and you know, one thing i was to my clients is in the courtroom, there's only 12 opinions that matter, and you are just not one of them. >> what are the chances, tristan, that donald trump has learned his lesson? >> basically zero. i mean, i just don't think he is learning his lesson at all

here. at the end of the day, his narcissism and his desire for vindication and vengeance are so strong that they are just overcoming even his normal sense of survival. so, he's really self sabotaging. with all these things. and i don't think this is going to stop anytime soon. it really looks like he's spiraling. >> let's take a listen to trump's reaction to the jury's verdict. he said he's going to appeal. he also suggested this verdict also targets the republican party. we actually -- might get this on later today, but, liz where is the gop on this case and this verdict? what are you hearing about that? >> yeah, alex. i mean, if there's any indication here at this rally today, it's not an issue for his base and his most ardent supporters. of course, the people that there is a concern about are those swing voters and independent voters, maybe they can get the folks that hear this and are turned off, but for the vast majority of republicans that we are talking

to have already decided, we are caucusing here in the fattah for trump. they decide it's not even an issue for them. in, fact they think it's a conspiracy by the democrats. to try to bring him down. so, at this point, from talking to folks here, it's not something that is having an impact on them. in fact, here in the paddock, and we're talking about kamala harris being here as well, really both campaigns seems like they're looking towards the general. and i think trump's campaign seems to feel confident that even though they lost in this state in 2016 and in 2020, by slim margins, but they, lost i think they feel that there is a chance here in the state, and that's why we are seeing trump campaigning here, even though we know -- he is going to win the caucus in a few weeks. >> and yet trump spent this entire week sharing some vial, false narratives and statements about carole. some were previously ruled defamatory. 42 posts on monday, 37 more on wednesday. up until just before midnight and 14 more friday. get this, while he was the court for the closing

arguments. that was after his post from monday. they were entered into the record! ryan, judge kaplan, also went out of his way to protect the identities of the jurors in this case as you mentioned, cautioning in quote, my advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury. what more can you tell us about that and the reasoning behind it? >> i, mean i think you look at the world right now, and you look at what has happened in other cases, right? you saw in georgia, where the grand jurors on that case, their names were public so that's the law in georgia. then, you saw they're addresses. -- by fans of donald trump. so, that's not really a surprise. we've seen this happen over and over again. we've seen spotting incidences, meaning police, false police report was made and the police respond. we it is supposed to frighten people. that has happened to the judge in the federal election interference case, tanya chutkan, as well as jack smith, the special counsel.

so, this is happening over and over again. people who come before donald trump, and i thank you, now that advice is coming in the interest of the jurors. it's frustrating. i think that is for as journalists, because you'd like to be able to talk to these people, have them explain the background here. it's created a situation where we're probably not going to end up hearing a lot from these jurors afterwards, just because of the world are living in the states. >> tristan, a quick answer for our quick question about this ming week, because we're expecting a ruling from judge arthur engoron by wednesday and at new york hd 70 million dollar civil fudrial. tish james citing a new appeal court ruling appealing a lifetime ban for martin squarely. that's for her lifetime ban on trump are doing business on the state. what do you expect in judge engoron's ruling? >> i'm expecting a very big number. for a long time, the record they lost, legal loss against donald trump was the $25 million and the trump university case i worked on.

that got eclipse yesterday with the 83.3 million for e. jean carroll. i don't think he's going to be the new record holder for long. i think the a.g.'s office is going to retake the record next week. i expect to see a number that is at least 100 million. i think it's probably going to be more like 3 to 4, maybe even higher. three or 400 million, maybe even higher. and that is going to probably also be upheld on appeal. maybe it's diminished a little bit, but the amount of fraud that took place in that case appears to have been massive. there was a massive amount of evidence, and i think we're going to see that next week. >> okay. liz, ryan, tristan, top to bottom there, thank you all so very much. breaking news. in one minute from a critical bridge crossing here on the east coast, plus, politics and immigration making some toxic bedfellows. this headline might say it all. we're back in 60 seconds. n 60 seconds

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news. reports of people injured in a multiple vehicle crash on maryland's bay bridge. here's some live pictures for you. westbound lanes of the heavily traveled bridge or close. drivers are warned to expect major delays on u.s. route 50. no deaths have been reported, however, several people up and taken to the hospital. the crash involved at least 18 cars, although authorities are not yet releasing the number of people injured or the cause of that crash. there is a new twist us the battle over the border heats up in washington. senate negotiators are sent to work through this weekend to come to an agreement on a bipartisan immigration deal. president biden now throwing his support behind that deal. he said it would give me, as president, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. joining me now, nbc's gary grumbach, welcome to you, gary. so, where does this legislation stand today? >> it doesn't actually exist yet. negotiators, as you say, are still working on it. they fit working on it for several weeks now, and they're

going to get through, i hope, we have some actual text on it. the members of members of the public can actually read this coming week. but this tension all started earlier this week, when senate majority leader mitch mcconnell stood up at a closed-door republican meeting and said he didn't want to do anything related to the border that would undermine former president donald trump's chances in november. now, of course, everyone from the former president to the president himself as opinions. former, president just this morning, coming out with a post on truth social saying that a bad border deal would be far worse than no border deal at all. and that, of course, has got some republicans up in arms. people like senator mitt romney, tom tillis, and even kevin kramer, nobody's idea of a moderate, it's saying they want to get this done now, not waiting until after the election. of course, democrats have thoughts on this as well. here's what democratic leader hakeem jeffries had to say about this. >> at a certain point, we are going to have to publicly

called the question of our republican colleagues in a variety of ways. when it comes to doing what is right for america's national security interests, and fixing our broken immigration system. , or we're just going to make it clear that republicans have no interest in dealing with the border issue. they'd rather try to weaponize it for political purposes, and i think ultimately, that's something the american people will reject. >> now, meanwhile, because of -- abdication of his duty, republican members of the house are readying articles of impeachment against former homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas, the guy in charge of the border. that's going to be in the coming days. alex? >> thank you very much from capitol hill. gary gunlock. peter baker story to jointly later on to talk about the race for the white house and the interesting point he races in this article, it's all coming up. comin up use it to set and track your goals, big and small...

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israel-hamas war. the cia director is soon expected to meet in europe with top leaders from israel, egypt, and qatar to push for a cease-fire and broker a deal to release the 130 hostages still being held in gaza. joining me now from tel aviv is nbc's matt bradley. matt, welcome to you. what can you tell us about these negotiations? >> yeah, liz. sounds like we'll william burns the cia chief, he will be meeting with his counterparts from israel and egypt and the prime minister of qatar. the idea here is to jump-start those negotiations to release the more than 100 prisoners remaining, including six americans. this is something that, if it happens, it would be a big, big deal. of course, because the last few people remaining have spent nearly four months. the problem is that both sides are presenting ideas, presenting you know, platforms that are almost impossible to resolve. hamas has said they will not

release the remaining prisoners unless israel guarantees a final and complete cease-fire. and israel has completely ruled that out. so, as these negotiations so, on this comes just a day after we heard from the international court of justice in the hague. this was a momentous decision. but it was one that isn't necessarily going to affect the war in the gaza strip. we've heard reactions from a lot of different sides of the story. essentially, the court said that israel needs to prevent genocide in the gaza strip. they didn't accuse them of committing genocide. they said they need to present a report within about a month to show what the israeli army has done in order to comply with the court's rules. so, there was some disappointment, on all sides, but there was something like praise. there were some palestinian factions that have said that they were pleased this was even heard at all, because the israelis have asked for this

case to be dismissed. the israelis were very upset that they actually heard this case. the court heard it, even though they asked for this dismissal. so, at the same time, there was a lot to unpack from this case that it really was more symbolic and diplomatic than kind of a practical ruling that would change events on the ground. >> real quick, just want to have you. the cia director of the united states is meeting with his counterpart of egypt and israel. again, the prime minister. very interesting to have william burns -- >> and qatar. >> prime minister of qatar. okay. so, we're going to dig into that a little further, coming up. thank you so much, matt bradley, for that. let's go to today's other top stories. the biden administration approved the sale of f-16 fighter jets to turkey. the approval comes following that turkish governments ramifications of sweden's membership in the nato. congress can vote to block that seal, the experts say that's unlikely. boeing maxes nines, those are back in the air this weekend. flights resumed yesterday, weeks after a door panel blew

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will depart for the white house to travel to south carolina for a weekend of campaign events there. he is determined to win back black voters in the state to help save his 2020 campaign. joining me now from columbia, south carolina, and bcc aaron gilchrist. welcome to you, my friend. look, president biden must know that he is not likely to win this solidly red state in november. why is he making such an effort to win over the voters there, erin? >> well alex, south carolina really has become sort of a proving ground for the president for the democratic party, when it comes to black voters. we know that the endorsement of the south carolina congressman five years ago, along with the support of black voters in a state paved the way for the president to win the democratic nomination and eventually, the presidency. after that, we know that this

was elevated in the primary calendar for the diverse the, as compared to new hampshire or iowa. at the same time, when you see polling as of late, particularly nbc news polling that suggests that president biden has some ground to make up with the black community after his three years in office. we know the president won the in 2020, but in our most recent poll in november, the person was sitting at 61% support that has been echoed impulse that followed in the black community in particular,, so we have people like jim clyburn, we were here with him last weekend, we went to the black church just outside columbia, south carolina, where he spoke for almost 40 minutes, trying to make the pitch to voters from the congregation there about what's at stake in the upcoming election, and why they should continue to support president biden. now, i want you to hear about a little bit what he told me about the work that is ahead for surrogates of president biden. >> that's what we've got to do

between now and november. tell people what it is we have done. tell them that the rescue plan is all about. tell them about the infrastructure bill is all about. put this chips and science, at the inflation reduction act, and the pack act, for god sake. >> and so when president biden speaks here tonight at the first in the celebration dinner that the state party, this democratic party is hosting, they will talk about the promises that he made going into office and the promises that he kept, that is, according to campaign official who i spoke with yesterday. the president will also take time to contrast what he plans to, do what he has done, with what he thinks a trump administration might too. at the same time, alex, we know that vice president harris is in the vada. that is the state that will hold this democratic primary right after south carolina. i should mention, two, at phillips, the congressman also running for the democratic nomination, we'll be here in south carolina tonight and will share the stage, speaking

around the same time that president biden speaks. >> okay, very comprehensive report. thank you, erin, for that. with more on what appears to be the imminent biden trump's general election matchup, joining me now, a good friend, peter baker. msnbc political analyst, chief white house correspondent, and author of the divider, donald trump in the white house 20 17th. to 2021. welcome, peter. so, you call this potential 2020 rematch a looming contest between two presidents and two americas. does trump versus biden reflect a political divide that has existed in this country for decades, or is it more than that? >> yeah, i mean, look. obviously, every few years, we see a contest between liberals and conservatives, republicans and democrats. the republicans are different first time around. this, time we have to precedent, what, current one former, running against each other. we haven't seen that in more than a century. in most of our lifetimes, anyway. and secondly, i think in some ways, they are precedents a very different america's in a way we haven't seen, certainly,

in a long time. president biden is the president the blue america, former president trump, is the president of red america. you can see him playing a role in governance, even from the outside. he's telling the house republicans and the senate republicans what to do about border negotiations with biden, and so on and so forth. he is exercising, in some ways, the leadership of his america, if you will, through his campaign. and i think what that represents is the polarization we have seen in the last few years. we really are living in different realities, blue america and red america are so separate, we don't see the same issues. we don't agree with the same, with each other on facts, whether it be the economy, whether it be 2020 election, and so on. so, this is really a very important clash in american history, i think. >> yeah, it's extraordinary, actually, one putting it like that. you've observed it and to see it happening. but in ur recent article, you write as the occupants of the current, as the current

occupant of the white house, mr. biden has all the advantages and disadvantages of incumbency. but mr. trump has been acting as an incumbent, in fashion,. to sow peter, explain what you mean by that and what incumbent position you think has the advantage. >> obviously, first of, all he's never admitted he lost in the first place, and most of his voters, if you look at, polls agree that he still, he should be the president, that he was, you know, the election was somehow stolen, there's no facts to base that. but that is the reality. some people see it, as his base sees it. so, he acts, in effect, asked the president of his base, of his supporters in that sense. as we just said, he's also acting in a policy way, because right now, the republicans are more or less lying-ing up -- thank you kayleigh hasn't dropped out, she still pushing, but for the moment you see on the hill, elise, house republicans, even the ones who don't like trump, now saying okay, he's our leader. we can't do anything, that he

doesn't want to do. even mitch mcconnell got to a kerfuffle this past week over these border negotiations, saying in effect they had to defraud some level to what former president trump wants, even though he's not in office. he is acting, in effect, as their leader when it comes to deciding really important policy issues for the country. >> okay, let's go to the potical parlor game, that being trump's pick. erin blake of the washington post took a crack at it. top of the list is at least stefanik, tim scott, sarah huckabee sanders. it also includes kari lake and j.d. vance. give me your best guest, peter? before covering donald trump a long time now. >> yeah, i think that you have all the right people to put on the list. it depends on a lot of. thanks first of all, he's going to look for someone he considers to be loyal. what is his lesson he got from mike pence? mike pence was loyal for three years, and almost 365 days. but in his last few days of the presidency, he decided he couldn't go along with trump's pressure to unconstitutionally declare themselves to be the winner of an election that they lost. so, he's gonna be looking for

someone who isn't have that much independents. and it's hard to find, even in this group. so, i think it is a kind of sweet stage we're gonna see from loyalty to being shown to trump. at least stefanik has been very, very you know, very clear how she is come as a person. she wants to do whatever he wants. tim scott, even though he ran against trump for the nomination, demonstrated this last week at the new hampshire primary that he's planning to be all in for trump. got up there, right in front of -- and said i love you. he just finished running against the guy and says i, love you. it's hard to be more you know, deferential to say, other stronger words that people would use than that. i, it's hard to see nikki haley. i just don't see that likely after what's happening here. i don't believe he would trust, or in that's going to be really important to him. whether she would even agree to do it as a whole other issue. but i think you're looking for people who, in his view, are 100%, 150%, loyal and deferential to him. >> yeah, deferential. that's a very safe or to use in

that case regarding this, senator. all, right eye to want to get your reaction pretty quickly to this video, because there appears to be eight candidates in gop debate for a congressional district for and colorado. lauren boebert on the left side at the end, and somebody asks, who has been arrested before? listen up. >> have you ever been arrested? >> do we get to say what? for maybe it doesn't matter. praise the lord. >> so, six of the candidates, including boebert, raised their hands. they got wide applause. what does this say about politics? maybe gop politics these days, if anything, peter? >> well, it is something you normally would not have expected to see just a few years ago. the idea that we have been running for office, not only who were arrested, because it's something to be proud of. that's a remarkable thing, just -- the qualifier in american politics, it is somehow standing up, i guess, to the man. standing up to the state, deep

state, standing up to the which, and some of trump likes to put. it it's hard to imagine, you know, but this is where we're at right now. >> yeah, interesting times. okay. peter baker, my friend, good to see you. i hope i see you again next weekend. two headlines you might have missed, and they are remarkable. one is from a judge. the other, from a january 6th defendant. miles taylor joins me next to talk about both. both. quickbooks money, now earns 5% apy. 5% apy? that's new! yup, that's how you business differently. there's nothing better than a subway series footlong. except when you add an all new footlong sidekick. like the philly with a new $2 footlong churro. sometimes the sidekick is the main event. you would say that. every epic footlong deserves the perfect sidekick.

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remarkabdlines. the first, prominent reagan appointed judge slamming republicans for their rhetoric ou the january 6th insurrection. senior u.s. district judge royce lambert cited what he called preposterous claims from lawmakers, including andrew clyde, marjorie taylor greene, and at least stefanik, who said rioters behaved n ornary fashion and referred to defendants as hostages. then, the second headline is frommberf the proud boys who to selfies in the senate gallery during the riots, and was sentenced to six years in prison on wednesday. during a prior hearing, he told a federal judge quote, you could give me 100 years and i would still do it all over again. i want to bring in miles taylor, former dhs chief of staff in the trump administration and cofounder of the future u.s., it's a think tank that is launching, brother, this year in washington. he's also the author of blowback, a warning to save democracy from the next trump. so miles, two of those

headlines there, your reaction to what the judge said? >> well, look. judge royce lambert, i, think was really spots on when he says this. as you noted, we have to keep in mind this is a conservative judge. it is not a democratic appointed judge saying this. this is a reagan appointed judge, calling out the extraordinary rewriting of history, in his, words that has happened since january six. and i think there's a couple things here that are worrying. first and foremost, the sort of permissive attitude that the republican party and republican leadership has taken towards criminality is, i think, setting the stage for the possibility that something like this might happen again. but i think it's also undermining americans confidence in the rule of law, and you see how astounded some republicans were behind the scenes when this shift started to happen. that shift started to happen as soon as two weeks after january six. liz cheney writes about it in

her book, saying she and other members of the republican caucus were astounded when kevin mccarthy went down and did a photo op with donald trump after january six. and that set the stage for this narrative to emerge that it wasn't an insurrection, that instead, these were innocent people and now it's, you know, transitioned into this top of these individuals being political prisoners. i think it's very worrying, and in that other story, alex, that you pointed out, there is a lack of remorse and that lack of remorse is actually evolved into this feeling of retribution towards the american justice system for holding these people accountable. i think it's really dangerous for law and order in this country. >> that proud member got six years, i feel the same way. i do 100 years after, i don't, know six months. also. but let's talk abo stephanie grisham, orse you know, trump's former white house press sey, who said there person or more would advise him that his words could potentially cause violence, and he would just wave his hand at you like he was swatting away a

fly, as if to say whatever, or shut up. has this irresponsible attitude miles, towards violence, had it spread through, you think, the rest of the republican party? you cite list cheney's book. what she was sensing two weeks later. but really, has it permeated the party? >> unfortunately,, alex i think it has. and i say this without even a note of political system in my motivation. you can just draw a direct line between the rhetoric and the data showing a huge spike in political intimidation and violence. we're seeing it's around the country, and it's not just hypothetical. we look at what happened in el paso, with the shooting at the walmart. several years ago. where the shooter paradoxal trump's rhetoric about an invasion at the southern border as the reason he went in and killed many latinos who were in the walmart. we saw it with the buffalo shooter, in new york, who cites the great replacement theory that has, again, bedspread by

republican leaders. use that justification to go into a grocery store and to kill black americans, and we've seen as the justification for a number of these individuals who have been arrested for making the threats to members of congress, death threats to judges, around the country. that rhetoric from political leaders, is becoming better justification for violence, and i worry about that spilling over in 2024 in a way that we can't contain. >> given this new position you have, cofounder of the future u.s., i want to talk with the dangers of a.i. to the election. ahead of tuesday's new hampshire primary, as you well know, residents got a eye generated robocalls. they were impersonating president biden, telling him not to vote in the primary. and the future u.s. has a psa that predicted practically this exact same scenario. let's listen to part of that. here it is, everyone. >> hi, it's reverend jones from the church calling. >> i, reference. what's going on? >> your sister asked me to reach out. >> louise, it's a buddy? it's dandy from the office. >> hey, carris, mom.

>> it looks like they close to local polls early. >> this is your president speaking. due to a failure in our polling technology, i am using my executive powers to extend the election period. all americans will have an extra 48 hours to cast their ballots. >> at the end of that psa, you put up a post that says this was all a.i. generated. it sounded exactly like joe biden. what is the message you want to get across, and what do you think this big challenges this year with a.i. in our election? >> well alex, i think this is one of the biggest wildcards in 2024. that your average american is not paying attention to. they know the contest between trump and biden is going to be very contentious. they know the overall political climate is going to be contentious. but most americans, i think, don't yet appreciate how much artificial intelligence enables attacks are going to impact this year's election. and we did that clip, in, fact

we conceived off that public service announcement almost six months ago. thinking it wouldn't be until closer to november that we would see deepfake robocalls impacting our election. now, you noted we just saw that new hampshire deepfake about joe biden, but it's going to get more difficult to thwart, because we think we're going to see these interactive deepfake robocalls, where the recipients of the phone calls aren't going to know they're on the phone with someone who might discourage them from going to the polls, who might spread disinformation about militants at the polls. this could go a lot of different directions. so, we're trying to sound the alarm, make americans aware, and i will say, the biden administration -- at dhs, is doing a really good job of staying on top of the threat. but i'm hearing a lot from local officials who feel like they are not prepared. so, we're doing our best to try to prepare them in the lead up to november to make them aware of these new threats and the deluge of deepfakes we expect to see, but there's a lot of work to be done between now and

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convicted the michigan's worst school shooting is set to testify in her own defense for the trial already featuring plenty of fireworks. jennifer crumbley and her husband are both charged, but are being tried separately. prosecutors now trying to paint her as an absentee mother. nbc's jesse kirsch reports from pontiac, michigan. >> this is the first time a parent is on trial in connection with his or her child's mass shooting. prosecutors argue both james and jennifer crumbley share the blame for their son, ethan's rampage. they've both been charged with involuntary manslaughter, and this week, jennifer, became the

first to go on trial. >> ethan crumbley killed four classmates at oxford high school in november, 2021. but prosecutors argue his parents, james and jennifer crumbley, are also responsible for the massacre. >> at first, it didn't seem real. >> computer crimes expert and bear grass key testifying friday about several messages prosecutors portraying jennifer crumbley as a negligent mother. >> okay, the house is now -- >> grassley testified on march 2021, the shooter claimed he took a picture of a demon, asking his mother, can you at least text back? >> prosecutors revealing that around the time, the shooter sent those messages, his parents or out writing horses. his mother later calling. >> so, that's about an hour and a half after he talks about the house being hunted. >> that's correct. >> that was a 19 second call? >> correct. >> just hours before the rampage, prosecutors showing jennifer crumbley saw her sons handwritten notes, saying help me, with a drawing of a gun. after a meeting at the school, jennifer crumbley contacted

someone about a horse before messaging her son. >> he said, you know you can talk to us and we know we don't judge. i care, i, no thank you. i'm sorry for. that i love you. >> at the time jennifer responded, more than half an hour later, the witness says the shooting had already begun. the fence cross-examination's, chrissy jennifer crumbley's concern for her son. >> we agree the overall, she is indicating an interest in figuring out what's wrong with her son. >> she's pointing out things that she's aware of. >> both sides taking swipes at each other. >> this shooting is awful. it's the prosecution -- all of this up here and putting them -- >> the shooting is the result of the gross negligence. that is the case. >> we -- was also asking the judge to compel the shooter, the defendant's son,