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politicsnation, tonight's ali, start your engines. ♪ ♪ ♪ the biden reelection effort is shifting in the high gear, with the first official democratic contest of the primary season, just six days away. that will be in south carolina. president biden has been reengaging with folks this weekend, especially black voters, who were crucial to his 2020 victory. biden's also getting a jump start from the united auto workers who are standing with the president -- joining the picket lines with them during their striking in the fall. i'll talk to the uaw president tonight about the big endorsement and what it will meet to the biden campaign.
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back on capitol hill, maga republicans are slamming the brakes on a bipartisan immigration bill at the behest of their presidential front runner, donald trump. and the impact of this gridlock may be felt far beyond the border, jeopardizing military aid for ukraine and israel. all of that tonight. plus, the white house response to breaking news out of the middle east, the first u.s. troops killed in the region since the start of the israel-hamas war. joining me now is congresswoman, jennifer mcallen, democrat of virginia. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. let's start with the still unfolding story out of georgia. three u.s. troops killed in a drone attack. the white house says the strike was conducted by back militants operating in iraq and
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syria. the drone packed with explosives impacted a near shelter where some american according to two u.s. officials. more than 30 were injured. the base where the attack occurred is a small -- northeastern georgia near the border with syria, known as tower 22. officials said president biden spoke about the attack just over an hour ago. listen to this. >> we had a tough day last night in the middle east. we lost three brave souls in the attack on four of our bases. i asked for a moment of silence for all of the lost souls. we shall respond. god bless you all. >> what are your thoughts, congresswoman, about the
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incident and what it could mean for the conflict underway in the region? >> first, my prayers go out to the families of the three service members killed, i'm praying that those that are injured are recovered quickly. as the president said, they'll be a response, of those who are responsible for this attack. i have no doubt that they'll be held accountable. in the meantime, we are working to get all information at our disposal, to make sure that not only is there an appropriate response but that we continue to work to de-escalate tensions in the region. >> now, back to politics, congresswoman, the first democratic primary of 2024 is six days away in south carolina. president biden is there this weekend making his case for reelection in the state. it made his nomination and
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presidency possible four years ago. on the other side, his 2020 opponent, donald trump, is looking increasingly like the next republican nominee. talk about the stakes this election has, congresswoman, as you see it? as>> i mean i think it's safe to say, both democracy and our freedoms are on the ballot, or reproductive freedom, our right to vote, continuing the progress that we have made as a country to build an economy from the middle out, that works for everybody, to continue our recovery and investing in our communities. all of that progress is on the ballot. but most importantly, our democracy is on the ballot. >> when you say our democracy is on the ballot. i mean, we're talking about donald trump has not been subtle about dealing with voting rights, dealing with autocracies, saying that he wants to be a dictator for a day.
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this is not a stretch here, we're talking about a guy who embraces autocrats, dictators, to your home state of virginia, president biden, vice harris rallied earlier this week marking the 51st anniversary of roe v. wade, painting donald trump as the architect of roe's reversal. -- they just took over legislator, largely under the strength of the abortion issue. between that recent democratic victory in other states where abortion has been central. and the push in nearly a dozen others to get abortion rights on the november ballot. do you see the parties successfully harnessing this issue to energize the base? >> i do. i think it's important to understand that donald trump was the architect of rose falling. he brags about it, the dobbs
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decision was made because of judges that trump put on the supreme court, that is a litmus test was, that there are judges that would overturn roe. as a result, i become the first generation in my family to lose a constitutional right in my lifetime. women across the country are now seeing how dangerous abortion bans, restrictions are, virginia's the only state in the south without a banner restrictions in place -- voters came out accordingly this past november, not only in virginia but ohio, just as they did previously in kansas. they will come out this fall because they understand reproductive freedom is on the ballot as the result of the donald trump presidency. >> pivoting now to congress, where the senate republicans maybe folding on the progress that they've made with the whe house on ideal -- immigration reform, and aid to
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ukraine. now to donaldrump, who is opposed to that deal is their presumptive nominee. senate majoty leader, mitch mcconnell, has signaled other options beyond the table. but the lead gop negotiator says that the deal is still their priority. but if these negotiations do ultimately fail because of trump, what does that say to you? >> i think it says that of the republican party today, in congress is more concerned about appeasing their presumptive leader than governing. we have seen from day one in this congress, in the house, the chaos from even appointing a speaker, they're incapable of governing. and now they're not even pretending to -- be said all along they want to do something on the border, democrats agree. we've tried to find a bipartisan solution, and we were close to finding a bipartisan solution in the senate. and now because donald trump has said, i do not want joe biden to have a victory, they're pulling back.
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that means they don't care about solving problems facing the country, solving problems facing american people, and hardworking americans. they're more concerned about their political gains, creating victories for donald trump, and putting obstacles in the way of any progress that would help national security, secure our borders, or help american citizens. >> it's mind-boggling. you talk about tens of thousands of people that are seeking some kind of refuge, some kind of asylum. and you talk about mayors of major cities, mostly black mayors, and democrat mayors, new york, houston, l.a. and others, being flooded with people, exploding their budgets, and they're all saying, let that keep going a few more months because donald trump wants to do this again -- we have the votes to solve it.
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it's amazing. but finally, a growing number of house republicans have expressed frustration with mike johnson over his negotiation on the recent government spending deal. the fight over israel and ukraine aid and the southern border, some have openly predicted that he won't survive as house gop leader if they lose the majority in november. do you think he'll hold on that long and if his conference -- push him out. do you see democrats trying to save a, or help save him, if only to avoid more dysfunction? >> look, i've stopped trying to project what chaos republicans will cause, what they will or will not do, other than the fact they will in fight and cause chaos. it wouldn't surprise me if they ousted speaker johnson, it wouldn't surprise me if they keep them. they have no one laughed. he is their third choice, fourth choice for speaker. i don't know if there's anybody that they can coalesce around.
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they've proven their ungovernable. what i'm looking forward to is being able to vote again for hakeem jeffries, and him to be speaker in the hundred in 19th congress. i'm certain that's what's gonna happen after november. >> all right, thank, you congresswoman. jennifer mcclelland of virginia. united auto workers are riding with biden in 2024. the union made its endorsement wednesday months after biden came, became the first sitting president to join a picket line during the unions successful strike against detroit automakers. joining me now, not the president of the united auto workers, shawn fain, sean, thank you for joining us tonight. president biden was on hand at the uaw legislator conference in washington this week to receive your endorsement. can you talk about what went into the decision to back the
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president's reelection? >> thank you for having me, reverend sharpton. first, of what went into the decision was simply this, when i became president we made a shift and what we do politically and we set our endorsements are gonna be errand. and one thing we've done throughout our strike, throughout our contract campaign with a big three, we looked at facts and truth. when it comes to endorsing candidates, especially in the presidential race, it's a very clear picture, both of these candidates have held the presidency. so, there is a clear choice here, a distinct choice when you look at both candidates and their track record. with president biden, he has a history of standing with the american worker. when you look at 2008, 2009, during the recession, he bet on the american worker, he stood with the american worker, and gave us a pathway to continue forward. when you look at when he became
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president, 2023, we went on strike for the first time in our history. president biden showed up on the picket line and stood with workers. we have a diet community, a plant that was cold -- belvedere, illinois. the belvedere community was dead on arrival when i took over. president biden worked with us, and they support us to help bring that planted back. not just bring back one plant, but to on the flip side, you look at the life donald trump has lived, you look at his track record. clear, when he was running his reality show, the apprentice, when he was president of the united states he had two favorite words, your fired. he's a boss, he's always sided with the boss, he's always sided with the billionaire, he represents -- when you look at 2008 during the same recession where president biden stood with the workers, donald trump blame the american worker. you look at 2015, prior to him being president, when he was a
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candidate he said, we need to do a rotation of these good paying jobs in the midwest, in particular michigan animal high -- they pay lower wages. al hig -- they pay lower wages >> and this was a literal quote at biden side about workers at the time. but let me bring you to this. let's talk about the presidents likely opponent, donald trump, who were talking about. you had some choice words for donald trump in your endorsement of biden. former president, sometimes claims to be a friend of autoworkers. but can you talk about is actual record? you are going into that that day. i want you to continue their. because i think people missed the fact that we have a president that we have seen for four years in office, and a president that was president for four years. so we can look and match records here. >> yeah.
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and the picture is very clear if you look at trump's record. as i was saying, in 2008, he blamed the workers for what was wrong with the big three, which was a fallacy. in 2015, he talked about doing a rotation of our jobs, till we begged for our jobs back for less. when he became president in 16, he installed anti union people on the national labor relations board, which really inhibited workers organizing efforts, in particular, at volkswagen, where workers voted to organize. when he was president in 2019, lordstown assembly plant in ohio was slated for closure. trump told those workers, don't sell your houses. and what did he do? what action did he take? what did he do to show support? not a thing. he blamed the local president, and that's all he did. you look at 2019, when he was president, also, you know, not just with the lordstown situation, but -- i'm trying to go back and forth
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through this -- >> while you're on that point, i want to take you on the point you just made, because it raises something else that was of interest to me, if not concern. and that is that president biden narrowly beat donald trump in michigan in the 2020 race. where the uaw is headquartered there, in michigan. it has its largest contingent of active and retired members. now that the union is formerly backed by biden, what can you tell us about campaign efforts on his behalf? what would it look like in key automaking battleground states like michigan, ohio, and wisconsin? >> i think when trump won the first time, i do believe workers everywhere, working class people, the country was just fed up and looking for something different. and obviously, that was a colossal mistake. i don't think we'll repeat that mistake.
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i think we've learned our lesson. i think we've seen a distinct contrast. i go back to this. in 2019, when gm workers were on strike for 40 days and donald trump was president, what did he say about the workers then? what did he say about the strikers? what did he say about the efforts? not a weird. he didn't show up anywhere, he didn't say awaited. >> all right. -- >> i believe uaw members will overwhelmingly support president biden for reelection. because when you look at the two candidates, the traces very clear which one stands up with workers, and which one stands up for the billionaire class. >> now, the uaw's endorsement of president biden came later than some other major labor unions this election cycle. after you expressed deep concern about where the administration's push for electric vehicles would lead auto workers. how with those concerns addressed ahead of this endorsement? and how would you rate the biden economy overall ahead of
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november? >> well. you look at the ev transition. when i took over, we went in a bad place with, it and it was moving quickly. and part of that, i think, was the fault of our previous administration. in the uaw, not pushing hard enough. but we made it very clear. we sat down with president biden early on and met with him, and told him our concerns. and they went to work with us. in bargaining, we were told, you know, by the talking heads that we wouldn't have a prayer of changing this ev work and bringing it into our master agreements. but with the help of the biden administration, working with secretary of labor julie su, we were able to bring this work into our master agreement, and a path forward to where these will be good paying jobs with a better standard of living. it was a race to the bottom when we came in. so president biden, his administration, worked hard with us to help us make this happen. and when you look at the overall economy, inflations
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down, you look at the stock market, it's up. and let's be real about what drove inflation. it wasn't the president. it was two words. corporate greed. >> yeah. >> and out of control billionaire class, and a massive wealth inequality in this country. it's caused by one thing. corporate greed, where the reach keep getting more, and the working class get left behind. let's weigh in our contract fight, 75% of americans stood with the uaw in that fight. because they're all living the same life. what matters to working class people's retirement security, health care, livable wages, and getting our lives back. giving our time back. not having to work seven days a week, 12 hours a day, multiple jobs. >> that's universal. i'm out of time. but i want to ask you a question about organized labor and the african-american community. black americans are more likely to be in the union than any
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other racial group, according to the labor department. and the relationship between unions and civil rights movements and goes all the way back to martin luther king. >> you bet. >> and even, now today, many of us work very closely with the afl-cio, and others. those of us on the frontlines now of the civil rights movement. in a year where turnout will be crucial, what role can unions play activating and energizing the black vote? >> look, the civil rights movement, the labor movement, they're inextricably intertwined. as one movement goes, so does the other. dr. king said it best. we either rise together, or we fall together. so we have to stand together. this is how the billionaire class and the corporate class when. they try to divide us. by race, by gender, you know,
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by borders, border security -- all these issues, they throw in. but definitely by race is one of the greatest ways they tried to divide us. it's imperative that we'll have the same issues, we all want dignity, this is all about humanity, and organized labor and unions are the pathway for equality for workers. without a union, you have no rights. you're an employee at will, you can be fired any day for any reason, or for no reason at all. and that's the world donald trump lives in. as i said earlier, his two favorite words are, you are fired. so we have a lot of work ahead of us. the labor movement, the civil rights movement, we'll continue to do that, and we will win by doing that. >> and i think we've seen that over the last several years, as i said. people like elise sanders in redmond and randy -- and you, shawn fain, president of the united auto workers.
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>> those things don't hurt my feelings. this is not personal for me. what is personal for me is getting america back on track. >> would you go so far as to call those attacks racist, ambassador? >> i think that's for everybody else to decide. i think that, you know, the fact that he continues to go down these paths of saying things, you know, is this who we want as a president? is this who we want our kids to see? i don't think so. and look, he's just gonna become more unhinged, kristen. hold on. it's gonna get worse. >> what's your reaction to haley refusing to call these attacks racist? >> well, reverend, you and i know they are racist. we know the origins of the. donald trump only knows one speed. he only knows how to play ugly. and i hope nikki haley stays in the race, because she's gonna continue to make these arguments to the sliver of voters that we're gonna need to pull off of trump. so i hope she stays in the race. but i will say, it's a reminder,
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rev, but this is gonna be one of the ugliest campaigns we witnessed in modern history, and we should all be prepared for it. donald trump is gonna lob all kinds of accusations to try to distract people. he's gonna go into hunter biden, he's gonna suggest joe biden can't walk and talk straight, he's gonna talk about jill stein and third parties, all kinds of mudslinging and nonsense, because he's gotta depress a lot of voters from voting. and we should all be prepared for it. we can't fall for it. i think we're in a good place, hopefully, if we stay true to the vision of what joe biden is advocating for. it's a record he has to stand on. >> rick, last night, donald trump continued his tirade against some potential bipartisan border deal in the senate. mitch mcconnell already cast doubt on its passage because of trump's opposition. lack of progress at the border might benefit trump politically, but what would it mean for republicans down the ballot trying to hold on to a slim
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margin in the house? and to try to regain control of the senate? wouldn't they be better off trying to fix this crisis, since they have a deal on the table? rather than letting it faster for at least another year? >> well, you're right, reverend, to point out the two tracks here. public officials have a duty and an obligation to carry the laws and to fix problems, and the border is clearly a problem. i don't blame it on republicans or democrats. donald trump did not fix the border, joe biden has not fixed the border, and the only way it's gonna get fixed is if those political will for both sides to do it. they want to play games with that, and unfortunately, people die at the border because there are games. the border needs to be controlled so we can send a message, don't come unless you have an orderly way of coming. the government can do that, not building walls. we've seen videos already of migrants coming through donald trump's beautiful wall. but by economic sanctions
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against those who pay illegal immigrants. if you cut off the economic incentives for coming, then you won't get economic refugees. you will only get asylum seekers who have legitimate claim to asylum. and that system can be the burden on that system can be reduced, so we can actually process people who have legitimate asylum claims. not just people who are coming because they think the border is easy to get across, and it's not. it's dangerous. >> let me stay with you a minute, rick. because this week, republican men mega donors will be meeting with representatives from both the trump and haley teams seeking their financial report. haley has been making the case that more voters deserve to have a choice in this primary contest, while trump has been pushing for the party to unify around his nomination bid. whatever these donors decide could determine the outcome of this race.
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what are you expecting to happen? >> well, i think there's a large group of people, including maga donors, who don't want to see donald trump return to the white house, because with donald trump in the white house, we've got chaos. in fact, donald trump lost 5 million jobs, which have thankfully all been restored. but it was complete mismanagement. it was economic collapse. it was a josh -- job collapse. it all happened under donald trump's watch, not president biden's watch. and there are enough donors and enough voters who don't want to see donald trump back in the white house, and they do deserve a choice. donald trump may not like that, and it's his position, and it's a rational, one to say that they should all rally and unify behind me, but we're not there yet. we're only two states in the process. he's got a huge advantage, but if haley can raise the money and has more pointed attacks against donald trump, and she should be pointing out the sit very same arguments i'm pointing at, is that he was an economic disaster.
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and we don't want to return to an economic disaster. the progress in the economy could be much better, but overall, it's been slow and steady and pretty good, and i don't know why people would want to trade that for chaos. and nikki haley might offer and even more robust economic progress if she were in fact the nominee and subsequently the president. >> faiz, on the other side of this, democrats are planning a first of its kind fund-raiser in the spring that will bring biden together with democratic predecessors bill clinton and barack obama. the all-hands-on-deck approach is designed to raise enthusiasm among donors and voters as well. will it where? >> well, i certainly think any unity of effort is valuable. and they have anybody and anybody saddle up. president biden -- he's a coalition manager. he brings the factions all the way from bernie sanders to joe manchin together in one party. so i think having anybody be
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part of that after this critical. but however, i would caution that at the end of the day, we had talked to working class voters in places like milwaukee, alabama -- our union presidents, teamsters presidents, i do tend to believe, reverent, that you're gonna have this election be decided by a small sliver of voters in places like wisconsin, michigan, arizona, georgia, who don't have a college degree, we are making under $150,000 a year. these are working class people. and they want to know and feel that this president has got their backs. i think he's got a good campaign to run on, but we've got to make sure that message is hitting them every single day for what is gonna end up being the better part of ten months here as a general election campaign. >> all right, gentlemen, thank you both for being on tonight. coming up, a new congressional seat, and a very old debate. dominating the 2024 politics in
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candidates vying for the first district seat were asked in a debate to respond to nikki haley's statement that america was not a racist country. take a listen to what congressman gerry call had to say. >> everyone has some rights to -- i used to work a lot with ministers, and i had some very private conversations. everyone has some type of racist in them. my mother, pearl harbor. she couldn't stand the japanese. she couldn't stand it. and it used to just either from the inside out. so it's there. but if we talk about it, if we try to reach out and try to talk to these people, or they talk to us, or we talk as one, we can fix so many things. >> congressman carl has since walked back his comments, sayi he was speaking about
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past racism, and blaming black lives matter, and antifa for current racial tensions. the irony is congressman carl is running a contested race against a fellow republican incumbent because the court found racism is still very much an issue in alabama. a federal judge ordered the state to use a new congressional map with an additional majority black district. joining me now to talk about it is democratic minority leader of the alabama legislature, anthony daniels. thank you for joining me today. leader daniels, what's your response, both to congressman carl's initial comments and his later attempts to change it up when it appeared he had spoken a bit more truth than many of his republican colleagues could handle? >> thank you for having me,
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reverend sharpton. i think his initial comments were right on. we have a history in the state of alabama of, you know, that is not so great, that were not so proud of. but i will say to him that as a former schoolteacher, someone who taught history and taught our young people -- it's important to understand history so they don't make those same mistakes. so he's absolutely right. for him to walk back those comments is just, you know, he's playing politics. i fertile auto folks talk about how reasonable he is privately. so this is just unfortunate that he's walked back those comments, but he's doing it for political reasons. >> as we mentioned, there will be a new black majority district in alabama this cycle. and you are among the at least 11 democrats and seven republicans running for that seat. we're open to hearing from many
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of the candidates between now and election day. but can you talk about how this new district can help transform politics in your state of alabama? >> absolutely. a state that has about 26% of the population is african american, but only 14% of the representation in the united states congress. this will give us an opportunity to, for those communities, whether it's montgomery, monroe county right, all of the counties in the second congressional district -- reflective of the people right there in that community. when you listen to statistics like, bullet can kyiv in the second highest rate of poverty in the united states of america, but the representative doesn't abbreviate appropriations our investments and infrastructure in their community, don't believe in expanding access to health care, these communities will finally be able to have someone that hears them, someone that understands them. i'm just fortunate enough to be
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raised in that community from a small town in boulet county. so this community, among other communities -- we will have an opportunity to finally have a representation that represents and reflects their values. >> on thursday, aba became the first state in the nation to use nitrogen gas to put it convicted murderer to death. witnesses say they saw kenneth eugene smith convulse in seizure lake spasms for at least two minutes during the execution. critics say this method of killing is cruel and not properly tested. what's your opinion, leader? >> i'm absolutely embarrassed by the method that we were using to execute. one of the pieces of legislation that i was
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supporting a couple years ago it was the judicial override in 2017. because we found that judges were overturning the decisions that jurors had been making a life with that. and some of these judges were reversing those decisions, and giving the death penalty. and so what that piece of legislation did is it gave us an opportunity to start reducing the number of individuals that are going through the death penalty in general, but this is just inhumane and inhuman. i'm embarrassed that our state, the only state in the nation that has this method. when you hear about the stories of this gentlemen choking during this particular process, it's unconscionable that we would even have administrate the death penalty in this way. so i'm embarrassed. >> before i let you go, you know i come down to alabama at least once a year, my mother is from alabama, but i come down for the summer march so i can
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-- do something around it. and i was talking to an alabama business mogul, the other day, about how alabama is a special place in the civil rights movement history. scott cain, the son of mark luther king, civil rights leader, passed away last week at 62 years old after a battle with prostate cancer. i knew the family, i knew him, we'd been through things together. and i brought up alabama because dexter was named after the first church that dr. king and caretta scott king lead in their career, the dexter avenue baptist church in downtown montgomery. can you speak about the legacy that dexter and other civil rights figures had after dr. king and continued in this day?
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because the movement was not just 59 years ago. you'll find that battle right now in alabama. >> absolutely. it's a current battle that we fight each and every day in the state of alabama. but the -- extremely important to the citizens of alabama. what you will find, as you know, every day -- every time that we banged the drum for social justice, we hear his heartbeat. you hear the heartbeat as, you served in alabama legislature representing people each and every day. so that legacy will -- even myself, my children, and my grandchildren. every, day or in the front lines fighting for voting rights. funding for opportunities for people -- as the king family dead, as they dedicated so much of their life to doing. >> all right, thank you, anthony daniels, for being with us tonight. up next, my final thoughts.
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