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it's good to be back with you in this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, just moments ago, the social media grilling on capitol hill wrapped up. powerful ceos facing intense questioning from senators with the power to regulate their site's child safety. the stunning numbers on the threat to children and the heated exchanges with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. plus, we're watching for an interest rate decision from the fed that's expected at any moment. the real world implications for every day americans. also, a gruesome scene, a man is under arrest accused of posting a video online after beheading his father.

why did he do it? and new details on the potential plan to retaliate for the deaths of three u.s. soldiers in jordan. how the high-stakes response could last for weeks. we've got a lot to get to, but we start with the breaking news in the middle east. monica alba is covering the white house. we just learned about new strikes in the houthi-controlled areas of yemen. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right, chris, this is something we are just learning from centcom that u.s. forces were able to detect a surface-to-air missile, preparing to launch from the houthis, reminding everybody that is an iranian backed militant group based in yemen. u.s. forces identified the missile in the houthi area of yellen and determined it did present an imminent threat to u.s. aircraft. what we're talking about specifically is something we have now seen more than 160 times in these last couple of

months, which is there have been these moments where there have clearly been these groups that are trying to potentially target u.s. personnel or u.s. aircraft, and we have seen that happen repeatedly in several different locations, that the u.s. has chosen to respond to that at several different times. this of course is related to this larger conversation we're having about how the u.s. is still going to respond in a different manner to the attack that was an iranian-backed group, but a different group than the houthis, the u.s. believes at this time, that ended up with a drone attack that killed three u.s. service members injuring dozens more, and that occurred in jordan, and we know from the president himself yesterday that he says he has decided now how the u.s. is going to respond to that attack, and we're learning new details today that this is something that will likely take place over the course of several days and weeks. it is something being referred to more as a campaign in a

multiphase, multistate response, and it's something that could have targets in multiple places, cites, countries and locations, and what is very clear here, at least at this reporting and what we know now is that this doesn't appear to be any strikes that are going to actually take place against iranian targets inside of iran, but they are likely to, of course, be focused on iranian assets outside of iran. this is something we just heard a little bit more information on from the white house spokesperson for the national security council in terms of every day that passes here without this obvious response signals to others around the world. listen. >> with every day that passes and no response, are you missing an opportunity to signal resolve? >> i think we signal resolve pretty well, and as i said the other day, we'll respond on our own time, on our own schedule.

and we'll do that. and i would also caution you not to think that the first thing you see, you talked about publicly seeing, not the first thing you see won't be the last thing. >> and something else, chris, that's important to point out here is that we understand from officials that the response here will likely be kinetic, meaning something like strikes, but also could take place in cyber space and cyber operations. again, this is something that could happen over a longer time frame and in multiple different venues, but the u.s. has been clear that it will respond, and this has been something the president has said and directly communicated to the families of those service members who died as well. chris. >> monica alba, thank you. let's go to pennsylvania now, the gruesome accusation, a son murdered his father and then displayed his decapitated head on you tube. nbc investigative correspondent tom winter is following that

story for us. tom, i understand you just got some brand new reporting. what can you tell us? >> that's right. a police complaint has been issued in this case, and contains a background of the investigation of police in pennsylvania, middletown township, they say they were called to the house around 7:00 p.m. last night. you're looking at the house there on screen. they were met with and spoke with the wife of michael, who said she found her husband deceased in the house and according to police, they found the body of michael mone in a down stair bathroom. there was a machete, and kitchen knife and they were able to find his head on the first floor of the home. they noted at the time they were at the house that apparently denise, the wife of michael and justin moan, the person charged with the crime, she told them that a toyota corolla 2009 model year was missing, her son was missing. they were able to track down the

son. as far as who did it, that was solved on you tube. this crime would have been gruesome enough, but according to a copy of the video which i have seen and reviewed, allegedly and this is all contained in the court documents and video, this is the head of mike moan, a federal employee of over 20 years and my father. he's in hell for eternity, as a traitor to his country. his holds up his father's head, and describes all sorts of anti-biden, anti-antifa and extremist right wing ideology and conspiracy theories, the reasons why he had to do what he had to do, and he also called out for the death of all federal employees and put out the address of a judge who had ruled against him. so the video has been subsequently taking down. i'm leaving out a lot of details, i don't think it needs a lot more, chris, but obviously a very serious and very heinous

crime, and something that we'll continue to follow. >> heinous indeed, tom winter, thank you. we have breaking news. we just learned that the federal reserve has reached a decision on interest rates. i want to bring in senior business correspondent christine romans. so what did the fed decide? >> the fed did not change interest rates, and that's not really breaking news, i'll be honest with you, nobody expected the fed was going to move. what the fed did do is signal the next move would probably not be raising interest rates again, opening the door to lowering interest rates. there will be a press conference with fed chief jay powell at 2:30, and he will be grilled about what it will take to start cutting interest rates and what kind of conditions you need in the economy to do that. one interesting point about the federal reserve's statement is they upgraded their outlook on the u.s. economy. the u.s. economy is expanding at a solid pace, job gains have moderated but stay strong, and inflation is easing but remains

elevated, and that is the sweet spot here for the fed, trying to get inflation down without throwing the u.s. economy into a recession. the so-called soft landing that so many people have been waiting for. it looks like a lot of the evidence says that that's where we are, the next move, we don't know when, would be to start cutting the interest rates. >> i'll go on a limb and say they aren't always the most riveting press conferences, however, what he says can move markets. so christine romans, thank you so much. >> true. let's go back to what has been a whirlwind hearing on capitol hill where key tech ceos have been testifying about child sexual abuse and other concerns involving their platforms. nbc's ryan nobles is covering at times combative hearing, and ryan, we dipped into the hearing last hour. we heard some snippets of it, but fill us in on the last 45,

50 minutes or so. >> reporter: chris, when you say combative, that's an apt description. when you saw the lawmakers press the tech ceos about their culpability when it comes to kids being injured, hurt or taken advantage of through these social media platforms. i want to point you to one specific exchange between one of the panelists and the meta ceo, mark zuckerberg, where zuckerberg pushed back on this idea that the social media platforms themselves are inherently dangerous. take a listen. >> if you're not willing to acknowledge it's a dangerous place for children, the internet is a dangerous place for children, not just your platform, isn't it? isn't the internet a dangerous place for children? >> i think it can be, yes. there's both great things people can do and harms. >> it's a dangerous place for children, there are families who have lost their children. there are families across the country whose children have engaged in self-harm, experienced low self-esteem, been sold deadly pills on the internet. the internet is a dangerous place for children and your platforms are dangerous places

for children, do you agree. >> i think there are harms that we need to work to mitigate. i'm not going to -- i think overall they're -- >> why not just acknowledge it? why do we have to do the very careful -- >> i disagree with the characterization that you have. >> that the internet is a dangerous place for children? >> i think you're trying to characterize our products as inherently dangerous. >> reporter: there were several examples of that, these tech ceos were put on the hot seat and forced to answer uncomfortable questions about the role. the bigger question, chris, is whether or not there is going to be any sort of real tangible, legislative fix to all of these problems. you know, there are a number of bills that have been bottled up, either in committee or yet to get a vote on the full floor of the house or the senate because of a number of technical issues related to how they're making their way through congress, and congress is often slow to deal with these problems as it relates to tech, and sometimes

by the time they pass the law, the technology has progressed beyond the point where the legislation can even address the problem at hand. so obviously a lot of anger, a lot of distrust, and a lot of frustration by members of congress. the question is what are neigh -- they going to do about it here in the coming weeks. >> it is christine, actually, i'll answer to either. >> reporter: we're all good. >> ryan nobles, appreciate it. classified mar-a-lago materials, what we know about the new evidence presented by the doj, and how it could affect the case against the former president. we're back in 60 seconds. g bettn a subway series footlong. except when you add a new footlong sidekick. like the boss with the new footlong cookie. this might be my favorite sidekick ever. what? every epic footlong deserves the perfect sidekick. dry skin is sensitive skin, too. and it's natural. treat it that way with aveeno® daily moisture. formulated with nourishing, prebiotic oat.

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happened but we know what was scheduled to happen. special counsel jack smith in florida was supposed to have a private hearing with aileen cannon. we're told it took place at a secure facility so that the doj could present those classified materials that they want admitted as evidence. the judge will have to decide how much can be shared with donald trump's defense team. we have reporters outside the facility where we thought this hearing was taking place, but we didn't see anyone going in or out. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. with all of these asterisks, trump and his two defendants want access to classified court filings. what would be the significance of such a hearing and what impact could it have? >> i think before deciding whether trump should even have access to these materials, judge cannon herself has to see them and understand the government's resistance to making them available. two, a former president who at one point in time had an

extensive security clearance but has shown himself based on the indictment to be a person who might have some issues with being entrusted with classified information, and of course there are two other defendants here who have never held such security clearances wilt nada, and what we know is this hearing is a precursor to one that's supposed to happen later this month to debate larger issues and the evidence that can be presented at trial. >> let's talk a little bit more about what is upcoming. look, the judge, judge cannon has scheduled a hearing for march 1st on when the trial will actually begin. it's currently set for may 20th. it could well be pushed back due to delays in the election interference trial. update us on your sense of when this trial could start and your sense of the calendar overall. >> the calendar in this case, notwithstanding the fact that judge cannon has not moved that

may 20th date, the calendar has been pushed back already considerably. there will be a hearing, we were talking about the hearing that has to happen between both sides and the judge about certain classified evidence. that hearing is going to happen, chris, on february 12th and 13th. but initially when the trial was scheduled for may 20th, that hearing was supposed to happen in october. we are already months away from where we were supposed to be for a may trial date. i think the consensus among the legal observers and experts that i talked to, and i would include myself in this group is that this trial is not likely to happen before the election, but judge cannon keeps doing so so incrementally that no one is really paying attention to the small steps. what we will learn as you noted on march 1st is whether she intends to keep that may 20th date or whether she uses the federal election interference delays as sort of an excuse for why she can't try this case on

time. no one that i know, based on how much has to happen in this case itself expects that it could take place on may 20th, even if she wanted it to. >> lisa rubin, thank you for that. the well, the lead prosecutor in donald trump's fulton county election interference case in georgia will no longer be testifying in cobb county about an alleged improper relationship with his boss, d.a. fani willis, but he could still be forced to testify in fulton county. he's nathan wade and he reached a temporary divorce truce with his estranged wife, but while issues tied to alimony and attorneys fees were settled, her lawyer says, quote, it does not settle the case. let me bring in former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain and creator of "the circus," and former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, charles coleman. we just learned that willis and wade have been subpoenaed to testify at a different fulton county hearing on february 15th

involving motions to disqualify them from the election interference case. what's going on with all of this? >> chris, essentially what we have here is a situation where donald trump's defense team would love to sully the name and reputation of fani willis as well as the fulton county d.a.'s office. why do they want to do this? ultimately they know they're not going to get her disqualified. that's the home run they're swinging for, the ultimate hail mary that they would love to have happen. in the event they fall short in their efforts, they are not successful, which they likely won't be, you still have now tainted the jury pool, where you can attack the integrity to the jurors of ms. willis, as well as her prosecutors in terms of things not being on the up and up, and create some sort of distraction, some sense of doubt, and then at a minimum, following up on what lisa rubin was just talking about, if you don't get any of that, hopefully at some point, you get a little bit of a delay in terms of the ongoing prosecution of ms.

willis's office. this is a multipronged attack here, and what we're ultimately looking at is throwing whatever we can against the wall and hoping something sticks. >> this is not a surprise. it's been said from the beginning that the strategy overall for donald trump with all of these trials is delay delay delay, in this case, though, "the washington post" notes that quote, the settlement does not eliminate scrutiny of alleged actions by the two prosecutors, nor does it assure that the criminal case against rump and his allies will continue. last week, republicans in the georgia senate established an investigative authority with subpoena powers to probe whether willis was in a romantic relationship with wade when she appointed him special prosecutor, and marjorie taylor green filed a complaint with the state ethics commission seeking an investigation more on top of more on top of more. is this about politics or how much do you think is about politics, and is it effective? >> well, sure, it's about

politics. that's donald trump's end game to make it all about politics and try and win in the court of public opinion. charles is right, they're going to use every possibility to attack the prosecutors but the problem is the prosecutors handed them the weapons, and it's a really unfortunate, unforced error, and ultimately we have to have hope that, you know, the law will proceed in an orderly way, and this will be decided by, you know, jurors that will be unaffected by these sorts of relative issues, but again, the unfortunate thing is that for trump's end game, it's all about the court of public opinion, and it's just unforced error and unfortunate set of circumstances. if you're explaining you're losing and trying to explain this relationship and how it happened and why it happened, and why it doesn't matter in this case, man, it's a very complicated story, and it's much easier for donald trump to say, hey, prosecutors are screwing

around, literally and figuratively. >> let me ask you another caution that speaks in the way, and if any of these cases gets adjudicated before the election, there's a new poll by bloomberg, and shows head-to-head matchups with donald trump and joe biden, and right now, joe biden is losing in every single one of them. however, one more critical data point, of the registered swing voters across the seven states, 53% said they would not for donald trump if he was convicted of a crime. so how critical could that be? >> well, it could be completely critical and totally determinative. that's the big outstanding question, whether or not any of these cases will go to trial, and whether or not there can be an outcome determined before the trial, and as it is clear, i mean, up until now, these legal cases have actually helped donald trump, but the question is will a conviction change that, and the data appears to suggest that it will. my question is that will be

appealed and it's unclear whether or not those responsibilities are talking about an appeal or an ultimate conviction. it's a little gray area there. >> i'm going to ask you, on a percentage basis, what are the chances that one of these criminal trials finishes before the election? >> finishes before the election? >> that we get a verdict. >> i am going to hover that somewhere around 45 to 65%. right in the middle. >> charles, mark, you're both staying with us. that was kind of a little, yeah. >> i know. >> speaker johnson, oh, look, that's donald trump. donald trump has just met with the leadership of the teamsters union today. there was a discussion in washington, d.c. we know that the uaw gave a huge endorsement to president biden. now donald trump hoping to get some other union support. we're going to listen in to what he has to say, and if he makes news, we will absolutely bring that to you. in the meantime, speaker johnson is bringing in the political battle over immigration next to the house floor, and we're also going to

head to eagle pass, texas, to find out what's really going on at the border right now. it's all next.

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republicans are doubling down and bet big on the political flight over immigration. house republicans approved two orders of impeachment against dh secretary alejandro mayorkas.

the full house vote will be next week. house speaker mike johnson is standing firm on caucus demands by dismissing a bipartisan immigration deal being negotiated in the senate. >> if president biden wants us to believe he's serious about protecting our national security, he needs to demonstrate good faith and take immediate action to secure that border. we're not going to agree to a fix that doesn't actually solve the problem. we would be derelict in our duty if we did that. we know what the problems are, and we know how to fix them. like the border official told us on the trip to the rio grande, house republicans are not here to supply more buckets. we are here to stop the flow. >> nbc's david noriega is at the southern border in eagle pass, texas. give us a lay of the land, what are you seeing there today? >> reporter: hey, chris, you wouldn't know it necessarily from the tone in d.c., but things here on the border right now at least, are actually quite calm. i'm currently in the one migrant shelter in eagle pass, texas.

as you can see, this big room is completely empty. the numbers of migrant crossings are way way down. that doesn't mean the crisis isn't real, just last month, this room was completely full, 18,000 migrants came through the shelter in december, where we saw record numbers of migrants crossing. the thing that's interesting about that, though, is there has been no significant change in u.s. border policy in that time. that drop in numbers is attributable to a lot of things, other than u.s. policy. the experts say it's seasonal fluctuations that happen every year, more measures by the mexican government to sort of control the flows, obviously could be changing conditions in some of the sending countries. the situation, the reality is there's a disconnect of the way the border gets talked about in d.c. and the way it talked about on the ground. the kind of debates that happen in d.c. have less of an immediate effect of reality on the ground than people tend to think. chris.

>> thank you for that. mark, look, you know this, house republicans are trying to impeach secretary mayorkas, claiming he isn't doing anything about the border. but simultaneously, they're blocking a bipartisan border security bill. their base loves it, but big picture, for republicans' fight, for example, to hold the house, is it a smart move? >> i'll say a couple of things about it, chris. one is it is really immersed as a fundamental issue, particularly for republicans, and also for americans. there's a border crisis, no question about it. the issue is whether or not republicans really want to solve this issue or whether or not they want to use it as a political cudgel to use over democrats in november, as opposed to solving the problem. there's a solution on the table quite clearly, and donald trump is agitating to make sure the republicans don't actually solve the problem. it's interesting because i think even though it is an issue that people really care about, increasingly it's becoming clear

that republicans don't really want to solve it. they want to use it as a political weapon, and there's two things there that i think are potential advantages for democrats, for an issue that's been wrapped around for a while. one is that there's the possibility of violence on the border with sort of enforcers coming down at the behest of donald trump or maga supporters, to really cause trouble. that creates violence at the border, and also just the fact that it doesn't get solved creates more chaos, and so this sort of leads into the original message on which biden was elected which was i'm going to stop the chaos, and if that becomes clear that the border messages that biden's really trying to eliminate the chaos, and trump's adding to it, i think ultimately that could net to a potentially democratic advantage if republicans keep playing it politically. >> mark, i don't know if you saw the new op-ed from rick scott,

he slammed mitch mcconnell for his role in that bipartisan senate border deal. quote, trump and house and senate conservatives represent the views and beliefs of republican voters. mitch mcconnell and the washington establishment don't. they were undermined for years, and the voters have said enough. mitch mcconnell has survived a long time. he's a skilled strategist and tactician, but what's his role here, and what's his power or lack thereof in the republican party? >> well, his power is that he still controls the republican senate and he has a lot of respect from his colleagues there, and i think it's becoming clear from people who really want to solve the problem on the republican side that this is an active and actionable solution that's on the table, and i think, again, i'd hate to be in a, you know, fight and fumble with mitch mcconnell, and that's where rick scott is right now. i'll take mitch mcconnell any

day. >> mark mckinnon, always good to see you. former president trump's meeting with the teamsters just wrapped up and he gave a brief statement afterwards. let me bring in nbc's garrett haake, what can you tell us. >> reporter: it's probably the lengthiest. he hit on a number of topics, including the border bill. the bill has not been made public yet, described it as a terrible bill, went on to say it would be a huge mistake for senators to support the bill. he argues there's no need for a border bill to shut down the border and make changes to border security like he had when he was president. an interesting thing from someone who shut down the government back when he was president. he's dialed in on this, denied he's making an effort to block the bill because of the perception it would somehow help joe biden.

he continues to say he just thinks it's bad policy. he talked at some length about his discussions with the teamsters but, you know, kind of in a nonspecific way saying it's a very positive meeting. they talked about manufacturing, infrastructure, he was very upset to see the endorsement of the uaw union going to joe biden. i guess it was just last week. he wants to prevent something like that happening here, and the other notable thing is he was asked several questions about the civil cases against him, the civil judgment, including in the e. jean carroll case from last week. he didn't answer a direct question about whether he would use campaign funds to try to pay any of those penalties that he might face there or in the new york civil fraud trial. he did call the cases against him a disgrace and made note of the fact that he's going to continue to try to appeal that judgment in the carroll case. a wide ranging news conference from the former president. i think it will be his continued insistence that republicans not support this emerging border bill whenever we finally see it.

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is confirming for the first time that it has begin flooding part of hamas's extensive network of tunnels under gaza. in a statement, the idf says it's only using the method in places where it's suitable, adding it's a significant tool in combatting the threat of hamas's underground terrorist infrastructure. nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from tel aviv. the idf calls this project, atlantis. rumors have been stirring up controversy for months. how does this work, and what are the concerns? >> yeah, chris, u.s. officials tell us that this has been going on since at least december, an the technical exclusion is complicated. the israeli military is pumping sea water from the mediterranean into the hamas tunnels. both israel and hamas says the tunnels underneath gaza are an underground city. they are hundreds of miles long. i have been down into them. they are just unfathomable in how long they stretch on and on

into the darkness. the israeli military says they are booby-trapped and ambushed by hamas fighters who know the layout of the tunnels much better than they do. so by flooding them they reduce the risk to israeli forces of actually going into those tunnels. they say it also reduces the need for air strikes from above, which can be devastating using those massive ordinances which kills such large numbers of palestinian civilians. as you said, there are major, major concerns about this method that first and foremost is that it could potentially lead to salt water getting mixed up into gaza's drinking water. most of the drinking water in gaza comes from aquaifers underneath the surface and wouldn't take that much salt water to contaminate. that could be a breach of

international law given the devastating effect it could have on civilians. food and drinking water are in extremely short supply right now. the other danger from israel's perspective is if you are flooding large sections of tunnels and you don't know exactly what is in there, there's a risk to the hostages, who the israeli military believes are being held in the tunnels underneath the city of khan younis. we have seen the high profile case where the israeli military shot and killed three hostages who were waving a white flag, who had their hands above their heads. the israeli public, i think, would look very harshly on an israeli operation to flood the tunnels which ended up killing more hostages. >> raf sanchez, thank you. we have breaking news, an update on that deadly drone strike that killed u.s. troops in jordan. just moments ago, the national security council's john kirby revealed at the press briefing

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he said during the vote about what he sees as the importance of this bill. take a listen. >> only investigative conversations tied to the possibility of crime are required to be reported. if these laws were in place in 1989, i vote aye. >> as a prosecutor who has worked closely with police, what could be the impact of this? >> chris, the significance of this measure cannot be overstated. and i can answer as a prosecutor, but i also have to

answer as a black man who has been stopped by the police in new york city. so you can't approach nypd on this conversation with a modicum of good faith. we have seen it ruled that stop and frisk is illegal, and we have seen stop and frisk as a manner of getting from a level one search to a level three search, and what that means is we have a basic stop, and try and see if anything else is amiss that we can get probably cause and arrest off of. because we have this history, this is a very sensitive topic, and the reason this law is so important is because what we have seen in the past four years is that nypd has done its best to try to get around that law, stop and frisk, but to still continue the practice, and so because these statistics are not kept, what these low level one stops, the problem is that these things are continuing to occur, that you are still dealing with systemic discrimination on how

nypd operates, and the only way it stops is we have the stats that show the pattern of behavior that are contributing to this thing continuing to occur. >> mayor adams says this is going to take time and focus away from police officers. advocates say they do it ton their phones, it takes less than a minute. what do you make of what eric adams has to say? >> i think what he has to understand is you can't afford to have bad policing in the number one city in the world. i can understand the economy of time he's talking about with respect to officers and them doing their jobs. here's the truth, mayor adams, this is their jobs, making sure they're doing right by the service and protection of the city of the new york is a part of the job. if there's a pattern or practice within their ranks in terms of being discriminatory in how they treat different citizens, that needs to be addressed. if this is the way to do it find the most efficient way to do it

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millions of college students are stuck in financial aid limbo after the u.s. department of education revealed colleges and universities will not get students' aid applications until march. rehema ellis is following this story for us. financial aid is already stressful enough for college kids, what's this all about? >> it was about the department of education wanting to make adjustments to the application for inflation reasons. they refigured the whole thing. as is the case, when you roll out something big, there are snafus. you have to remember, they're adding $1.8 billion to the packages, meaning 1.3 million more student of low income that are going to be getting grants. grants not loans, adding to that $1.77 trillion that currently is facing americans and student loan debt. but because there were snafus,

the financial aid packages were not put together in time. they normally would be going out right now to colleges. they're not going out now until march. the colleges won't have them in time now. they say in a timely fashion to put together that financial aid package for students and families to say, what are we going to do, what college are we going to, based on how much money we get. experts say they think they will get the information to them in time so students will be able to make their decisions by the time that may 1st deadline for acceptance comes up. in the meantime, there's a lot of anxiety to a process that's already filled. i know it was when i was filling out those applications with my kids and the family was doing the same thing. just one more thing to add to the problem that kids are facing as they're trying to head to school. >> quick question, just so i understand, so they can't make a financial aid package until they know how much government help they're going to get to give to these kids.

the kids may have to make a decision, which school they want to go to, but now they're saying, okay, you should have that information by the time you have to make that decision. >> that's what some experts are saying. it doesn't make all the parents necessarily calm about it or students. so they're sitting on pins and needles, wondering if they are going to get that information in time. >> ehema ellis, thank you, it's an important story we appreciate it. that's going to do it this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. ♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. we start today with a crumbling border bill, one we haven't seen yet, and a homeland security secretary on the verge of impeachment. it's as much of a less in congress as it is at the southern border.

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