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in fact, sonoma county firefighters had to rescue someone trapped in their car that was surrounded by rushing waters. also right now, some supporters of a far right group that calls itself god's army heading to the texas border and calling for a civil war. what they say they'll do when they get there. plus, the eu reaching a critical $54 billion deal to fund ukraine. so, can president biden push congress to do the same? our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with the looming question of when there might be u.s. military retaliation against iran. nbc's courtney kube is reporting on this from bahrain. courtney, what do we know at this hour? >> reporter: so we're still waiting to hear about what frankly the administration has really been telegraphing was an expected response or retaliation to those deadly attacks over the weekend, in which three u.s.
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soldiers were killed and at least 41 others were injured, including one who was seriously injured and had to be medevaced. all week long, we have been hearing from u.s. officials up to president biden saying they are expecting to, planning to, retaliate in some way. what exactly is that going to looks like, chris, that's been the big question. officials are telling us that we should think about the previous times where the u.s. has conducted retaliatory strikes, for instance, when there have been attacks against bases in iraq and syria that have yielded injuries against u.s. service members or to some of the responses to some of the attacks by the houthis in the red sea and gulf of aden. in those cases, we have seen what the u.s. military likes to call proportional strikes. let's say one of the militia groups is firing ballistic missiles, or launching drones as their form of attack. the u.s. might strike a warehouse where they store those drones or a launcher where they launch those ballistic missiles. what we expect to be a little bit different here, though, chris is officials are telling us this will be a campaign of a
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response, and it could occur over weeks, and we should expect it to look bigger and slightly different than the previous retaliatory strikes in scale, size and location. beyond that, we don't have a good sense of what it's going to look like at this time. >> campaign being a big clue. courtney kube, thank you for that. let's go to california, there's a storm system currently producing so much rain, get this, it could fill the entire mississippi river 27 times. nbc's kathy park is reporting from the golden gate bridge in san francisco. kathy, officials have warned about flash flooding, landslide, maybe even some snow there. what's happening? >> reporter: hey there, chris, good afternoon to you. well, this is a huge turn around from what we saw this time yesterday. right now here in san francisco, the skies have parted. we have a little bit of rain right now. but this is much different than what we saw yesterday when the region got slammed with several
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rounds of heavy showers. some spots seeing 1 to 3 inches of rain. of course that led to flash flooding in some spots, including sonoma county where the rapidly rising waters actually had to -- people had to rescue motorist who was stuck in those waters. meanwhile in saratoga, a fallen tree trapped a young girl inside her home because the ground is just that saturated, and yesterday, at half moon bay, where we were planted all day yesterday, wind gusts clocking in at close to 40 miles per hour. chris, keep in mind, that was just part one. the next storm system, another atmospheric river set to be in the region sometime sunday into monday. right now, we are getting a little break from the rain and those heavy -- those wind gusts, but right now, southern california is getting pounded with the rain, so more to come, chris. >> the satellite images are crazy. kathy park, thank you so much.
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well, right now, a far right group is heading to the southern border. nbc's ryan reilly is reporting on this. organizers of this group stress nonviolence, but of course not all members are on board. what do we know about this, ryan? >> reporter: yeah, i think, you know, some of the leaders here are definitely into conspiratorial ideas, and so you've definitely had some comments on social media that we have been tracking that sort of support some sort of violent rhetoric including bringing up civil war, and obviously it's a very tense situation on the border right now. leaders here are not actually saying they're going to go directly to the border. in fact, one of the places they're holding a rally is pretty far away from the actual border. it's a children's camp that's north of eagles pass, but there are three different locations they're saying this is happening on saturday. and the convoy that has been traveling from virginia has grown in size as it's gone through florida, as it's gone through louisiana, and now into texas. so it definitely is picking up a little bit of steam here. but what's interesting about
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this, chris, is that, you know, since january 6th, we have really seen this trend of people on the right being -- having trouble organizing these types of rallies because of a lot of the conspiratorial thinking. there's a constant idea that there are feds embedded everywhere, and they're going to try to take this over and turn it into a false flag event and trap people. that's what we have seen from comments here. people worrying this is a government setup to entrap, i guess, donald trump supporters, which is what a lot of americans think january 6th was, of course, falsely, but that's the situation that they're in, that's what these spears have done to their ability to organize, chris. >> ryan reilly, always good to have you on the program. thank you so much. in 60 seconds where do things stand on the mayorkas impeachment effort. one of the congressmen who was a key vote will join me next. all . and locking it right on in! you feel no wetness. - oh my gosh! - totally absorbed! i got to get some always discreet!
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a new and potentially fatal blow to house republican efforts to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. republicans can only lose two votes when the full house takes up articles of impeachment next week, and we're just learning they've lost one. let me get right to the man who now tells nbc news he's a solid no on impeachment. republican congressman ken buck of colorado. welcome back to the program, congressman. i know you were previously undecided. what led you to decide you will vote no? >> well, this is not a high crime or misdemeanor. it's not an impeachable offense. this is a policy difference. let me say there is a crisis on the border, the law needs to be enforced. but if we start going down this path of impeachment with a cabinet official, we are opening a door as republicans that we don't want to open. the next president who is a republican will face the same scrutiny from democrats.
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it's wrong, and we should not set this precedent. >> have leaders been trying to convince you otherwise, or is there anything that will change your mind. when you say solid no, you mean solid no? >> i'm not changing my mind. i have met with chairman green from the homeland security committee, the staff, outside constitutional experts, former members of congress about what this would mean for congress. i believe i have done my due diligence and i am standing firm at this point on this. if there's some new evidence, i'm happy to look at it, but i don't believe there will be. >> we are closely watching three other house republicans who have not committed to voting in favor of impeachment. dave joyce, dan newhouse, i wonder if you've spoken to any of them and do you have an expectation that they might join you in voting no? >> i have had private conversations with one or more of them. i'm not going to reveal them. i wouldn't be surprised if there
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are two or three republicans who will vote no. myself and one or two others. >> what do you think would drive that? and i'm very curious about your conversations, for example, that you just said you had with former members of congress, what they said to you that was so convincing about what this means for the house as a body? >> i voted against the first trump impeachment, the second trump impeachment. i didn't believe those met the standard, and i feel the same way in this situation. we can't use impeachment as a way to settle policy differences. we have a number of tools in our tool box. we have the power of the purse. we have other ways of trying to get the biden administration to take the border more seriously. impeachment just should not be one of them. we open that pandora's box, we're going to be in trouble as a country. >> do you have concern over the optics, congressman, of house
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republicans trying to impeach mayorkas on accusations of inaction while they vow, some of them, to stop legislation to take action on the border? >> i do have concerns about that. i have concerns about the optics. i have concerns about the reality that any law that would help an executive branch official deal with the crisis on the border we should enact. the biden administration decided not to use the remain in mexico policy that the trump administration had to not use the agreements with honduras, guatemala, el salvador that the trump administration had. those were bad decisions and part of what's happening right now were the result of those bad decisions, but any law that would help us deal with this situation is a law that we should try to adopt, try to support and find ways to help the immigration crisis that's occurring right now. >> the polls show most americans agree with you. this is not necessarily a
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partisan issue. people are concerned about what is happening at the border. they want congress to do something, so one thing, as we said, is the optics of this. but the other thing is the political reality. you have a very slim majority on the republican side. could this backfire? >> when you say this, the mayorkas impeachment? >> yes. >> i believe it can. absolutely. i think that it will be looked at as a political gimmick, a stunt. i don't believe it will be taken seriously by the american public. say we were successful in impeaching mayorkas, and the senate convicting, which is very unlikely, what would happen at that point, president biden would appoint someone else who agreed with his policies and i don't believe there would be any remediation on the border. it is a stunt, and we should be more concerned about our spending crisis and dealing with new legislation on the border crisis. >> let me ask you, finally, about the bipartisan tax bill. it passed the house
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overwhelmingly yesterday, 257 in favor, 70 against, to temporariy expand the child tax credit and restore a number of business tax credits. you were among the minority who voted against it. there is some question about whether it will get to the senate. what are your concerns, and do you believe those concerns can be addressed by the senate and that this could still go through? >> i don't think it's a good idea, and i don't think any concern could be addressed by the senate. this bill cost billions and billions of dollars, number one. number two, 91.5% of the beneficiaries of this bill don't pay any taxes at all. it is a welfare bill that is really labeled a tax cut. you don't cut taxes from people who don't pay taxes, and so i don't think it is really going to benefit the people that it was attended to benefit, and i think it is a mistake to go down
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the path that we are going down at this point. >> congressman ken buck, thank you, again, for being on the program. we do appreciate your time. >> thank you. in europe, an agreement on a major eua package that will send more than 50 billion euros to help ukraine's economy that of course has been ravaged by war. nbc's kelly o'donnell is at the white house for us, and i wonder what you're hearing there, does the eu reaching this deal help president biden push congress to do the same? >> reporter: there is an expectation that it will, chris, in part because the president has really made a big part of his argument that he has been a leader in the world community, keeping together the alliances that have supported ukraine, and europe with this move is really stepping and sending the message to russia that there will not be a war fatigue on the continent, that their neighbor needs this kind of additional protection and help. there had been a real sticking point from hungary and its
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president, viktor orban, who ultimately relented and agreed to support this 54 billion in aid to ukraine, in part, being promised it would be used responsibly and things like that. there are issues among europeans about orban's long tenure in hungary, and democracy eroding there. as you know, he has a strong alliance with former president trump. the message here from western leaders is that now maybe this can be something that president biden can use to further influence congress to support ongoing support for ukraine. so this is a big need for ukraine. and at the same time, we know how many competing interests there are for available resources around the globe, and concerns about a war between israel and hamas, and this ongoing war coming up on another anniversary for ukraine and russia. this is considered another sign that european leaders are
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willing to step up and deliver on aid that can help keep ukraine functioning and hoping that the united states will be able to leverage that for additional aid as well. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house for us, thanks, kelly. the biden campaign using one of donald trump's classic moves against him. will their aggressive new strategy get under his skin? that's next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt.
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today joe biden and nikki haley seem to be on the same strategic page for campaign 2024, taunt trump. and they are doing it unrelentingly, turning the table on the former president and trying to get under the skin of a candidate who so successfully did that to his opponents for a very long time. take president biden's campaign, going on truth social to ask, have you seen this new ad, donald trump? >> donald trump is truly confused. >> nikki haley is in charge of security, we offered her 10,000 people. they don't want to talk about that. >> he didn't just get me confused, he mentioned it over and over and over again. he's not what he was in 2016. he has declined. that's a fact. >> i stumbled and mumbled purposely. >> i speak in long complex sentences. >> you have voter i.d. to buy a
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loaf of bread. >> have you noticed he's a little confused these days. >> a person close to trump actually says that he's rattled by biden's efforts to get under his skin. >> haley, meantime, doubling down on the electability argument. >> this is about who can win. he can't win moderates. he can't win independents. he can't win suburban women. he lost in 2018, he lost in 2020, he lost in 2022. how many more times do you have to lose before you say, you know what, maybe that's not the guy. >> and that just as a new poll shows biden beating trump in a head-to-head matchup. nbc's vaughn hillyard is in las vegas calling the rnc winter meeting, ali vitali covering nikki haley in south carolina, at least her campaign, and david jolly is a former republican congressman and msnbc political analyst. from the day donald trump came down that escalator at trump tower, pretty much no one has found a way to take attention
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away from him, but now the biden campaign dropping brazen ads, the social media has been, i think it's fair to say, snarky, clever, are those folks finally finding a way if not to beat him at his own game, at least challenge him at it? >> certainly. and, chris, i think the important thing is you're seeing the biden campaign ramp up the machine. you're seeing it with events like the event they're going to have with president obama and president clinton, with joe biden out talking about the economy and in the social media space and the space where candidates troll each other and their followers like to ding each other, joe biden is turning the script about the mental acuity and finance of the candidates on donald trump, and it is fair because what joe biden is putting in front of trump's followers is trump's own words, and his own behavior. i think, look, it's funny, it's cute. there is certainly truth to it. the big picture is the biden camp is ramping up.
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for democrats who have been waiting for that, keep watching. >> and you and i and ali, all the times we have been on the campaign trail, we have seen other candidates virtually wither in the face of nothing more than a nickname from donald trump. i wonder what we're hearing from trump world now that they seem to be turning the tables. is it, indeed, getting under his skin? >> donald trump and his campaign have felt very little threat at any point during the republican nomination process. chris christie, you could contend, is the best at playing donald trump's own game, but never even got a crack to go on to the debate stage with him. instead, donald trump has watched each of these republican rivals fall off the cliff. never registering significant polling numbers or becoming much of a threat. donald trump has not suffered the consequences for politically annihilating each of his
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one-time popular republican rivals, including florida governor ron desantis. i was at the rnc winter meeting taking place in las vegas over the last 24 hours. i have been talking to rnc men and women around the country, and each of them, you know, they talk about the convention. they talk about taking on joe biden. there is no mention, no even quiver of concern about donald trump or his style of politics. instead, they are looking at him as their nominee who they have stood by for the last eight careers, and intend to wholeheartedly stick by with this go around, and they look forward to the republican national committee being able to invest its resources in teaming up with the trump campaign, formally to take on democrats and joe biden ahead of november. >> nikki haley has clearly been embracing a more aggressive strategy against trump but we also know she's got major work to do. we finally got a high quality poll out of south carolina, which shows trump leading by 6 points among potential primary voters. i guess the good news is that since september, she gained 14
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points, the bad news is trump gained 12, but what's the feeling today in the haley camp? >> reporter: since september when the poll was done, more people have dropped out of the race. they will make the argument she's gaining ground and that means they should keep at it. she has assured she's staying in the race all the way through super tuesday, which is march 5th. of course there's reasons why we're seeing her start to ratchet up her rhetoric, going at trump on things like mental fitness and age. i think we're going to see a lot more of what the biden campaign is doing, not just employing trump's own words against him, but other republicans' words against him. the fact that nikki haley is joining the chorus of people criticizing the president, the call is coming from inside the house in terms of the political sides attacking the former president. it makes sense the biden campaign is starting to
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capitalize on that in whatever trolly fashion they're doing so online. it's worth looking at the ways that haley is both attacking trump and where she's also holding back. yes, she's attacking trump on mental fitness, acuity, age, she's not attacking him as forcefully on the court cases. she's talking about them, saying how it's an example of how his attention and money is going to be split in terms of where he's paying his bucks, and where he's paying his attention to. at the same time, she's not talking about the substance of those court cases. one of the things that struck me eye in the monmouth poll was one of the stats that showed 60% of republicans in south carolina would say to keep trump on the ballot even if he were convicted, he should still remain the gop nominee. that's up 9 points from september. and so you're seeing a stronger coalescing around the former president as these court cases and criminal cases have come into clear focus, and as he
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spent more time in courtrooms. the fact that he's been able to turn those into political advantages is not something just the trump campaign sees. the haley campaign sees it. only attacking him on the things you know he can make end roads with the voters they need, which at the end of the day, is republicans by and large. >> which brings us to joe biden who's in a different position, right. he's not trying to win from way down. he's going to be the nominee in the democratic party. when you look at those court cases, what's the advantages and disadvantages of going after donald trump very directly on them, do you think, david? >> this is everything. this is a perfect conversation about the limitations of nikki haley's candidacy and the power of joe biden's. nikki haley refuses, as ali said, to talk about donald trump's behavior on january 6th, to mount an insurrection. the election interference in
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georgia is being found liable for sexual assault. but also on the issues themselves, what nikki haley can't talk about in front of republicans, joe biden can talk about in front of america, which is where the candidates on dobbs and roe v. wade and a woman's reproductive freedom. where are the candidates behind trump and republican immigration policy. where are they on tax policy, an economy for all people. notably, nikki haley does not have the brass to challenge donald trump on that. joe biden does, and expect him to do that every day. >> so nikki haley is staying in the race, david, 26 points, a huge deficit to make up. realistically, do you think she can make up enough of that deficit to convince donors that she should stay in the race? >> no. now, can she make up the deficit? no. will donors stay in? yes, they're the donors that
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don't want trump. they'll stay until the end, and give donald trump money to make up to past donations to nikki haley. what can nikki haley get out of this if anything or is her reputation so sullied with republicans she's done with her career. we don't know. trump doesn't want to spend money in a republican primary. he's spending most on his lawyers. if you're donald trump's camp, real opportunity is to go nuclear on the airways in south carolina and pommel and humiliate nikki haley, and see if she means it, that she's going to stay in it until super tuesday. the math is not there. >> david jolly, vaughn hillyard, ali vitali, thank you very much. a key moment in a ground breaking trial, the mother of the oxford school shooter taking the stand in her own defense. we'll go live to the courthouse in michigan with the latest after this rz. z. an have mouths to feed.
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high drama at the truly of jennifer crumbley, she is now on the stand in her own defense. she's been there for about an hour and a half. she is the first parent to be charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection with a mass shooting by her own child. among the questions, some about the gun her son used to shoot and kill four oxford high school students back in 2021. >> okay. who is responsible for storing the gun? >> my husband is.
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>> okay. explain why you say he's responsible for that role? >> i just didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that. it was more his thing, so i let him handle that. i didn't feel comfortable putting the lock thing on it. >> nbc's adrienne broaddus is following this story for us. also with me former assistant manhattan district attorney and msnbc legal analyst catherine christian. what's the latest from court? >> reporter: we've seen the defense paint the picture of who jennifer crumbley was as a mom, using images on her facebook page to show her with her son, ethan, and her husband james at a tree farm, purchasing a christmas tree days before the shooting. we have seen photos of them inside their home playing family games, as well as milestone photos of jennifer crumbley documenting ethan's last day of school. we also heard her answer questions about discipline and
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ethan crumbley's mental health. telling members of the jury her son had moments of anxiety, for example, before a big test, and he also worried about getting into college after high school. wondering if his grades were good enough or if he should take the route of joining the military. she said it was never anything that alarmed her to rise to the level where she believed her son needed a mental health professional. she also testified saying her son never asked to speak with a mental health professional, and she says she thought they were close. >> i thought we were pretty close. we would talk. we would, i mean, we did a lot of things together. i trusted him. and i felt like i had an open door, and he can come to me about anything. i mean, i felt as a family we were -- the three of us were really close. >> reporter: and some tearful
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moments inside of the courtroom before jennifer took the stand in her own defense, right before the prosecution rested its case. one of its witnesses talked about this 22-page journal that was in ethan crumbley's backpack. in the journal, and i want to read to you, ethan crumbley wrote, the shooting is tomorrow, i have access to the gun and ammo. i am fully committed to this now. some chilling messages coming out of that journal, and also a tough moment as the surveillance video from the shooting was played inside of the courtroom, chris. >> oh, boy, adrienne, thank you for that. catherine, let me start with that, and that is access to the gun, how it was stored. you heard her saying she wasn't in charge of that. she wasn't comfortable being this charge of that. it was one of many times when she deflected to her husband, it being his responsibility. he obviously has a separate
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trial. what do you make of that as a strategy? >> that's why they have separate trials because they are basically pointing the finger at each other, and clearly her attorney is establishing that. look, i didn't know that my son had mental health issues. i would have done something about it if i did. is it -- was it reasonably foreseeable, which is the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was foreseeable if you give someone who's a child a loaded firearm, and they have mental health issues that they would probably do some harm to people as their son did, but she's saying he didn't have mental health issues, yes, we provided him with a gun. it was supposed took locked up, not my responsibility, it was on my husband. she's still going to be cross examined by the prosecutor. on direct, she's trying to establish that her client, the mother, really it wasn't reasonably been foreseeable. she had no clue that her son had
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these mental health issues, and in terms of the gun that's on her husband. he's the one that should have locked it up. >> there's more testimony that was given about whether or not ethan crumbley had access to the gun, and asked about that, she said, no, it was for him to use at the shooting range. and asked, was he allowed to take it out, no, he was not supposed to take it out without my husband. then they asked her about it being locked up, and she said, my husband had it usually in our bedroom in different spots and testified about the key being kept in a beer stein. key, presumably to the locked place where they held guns or ammo. how important is it to establish access to the gun obviously before whether or not there is even a question about whether they should worry about him and if he might do something bad with it? >> well, the prosecutors when
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they do the cross-examination and through their evidence are going to show that really the parents were not really responsible in terms of locking up this gun. she may say it was her husband, but she just admitted and said that it was also in the bedroom, so there's also text messages from the son. there has been testimony from others who have made it clear that you would have to be really, your head in the sand to not appreciate that this kid had severe mental health issues and you should not have been providing him with a gun even to just go to the shooting range. he should not have ever had his hands on the gun, they were clearly aware, which the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, their son had these issues. he was hallucinating, had paranoia. she has to give the best defense, and it has to be it's by husband. i didn't know about my son's
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mental health issues, we were happy. that's the best defense that her lawyers can give her. >> we mentioned this is high drama. you look at her on the stand. she could be any person on the stand testifying in any case except that she is the only witness for the defense. whether or not she is credible, whether or not jurors believe her, her future, her freedom is riding on this. did she have to do this? we tend to hear you really have to be desperate for a defendant to testify on their own behalf. what do you make of what we're seeing right now, the fact that she's on the stand and she's the only witness in her defense? >> i wouldn't call it desperation, but yes, in a case like this, she has to explain to the jury, have them see her. you know, if her head was in the hand, and she didn't know that really that he had mental health
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issues then, you know, the prosecution hasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. if the jury sincerely believes her, i thought he was fine. i thought he had anxiety. i thought he had problems figuring out what he wanted to do with his future, if they truly believe that, then the people, the prosecution has not met their burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was foreseeable her son would do this, when she and her husband provided him with a gun for the shooting range, they should have known. if she truly, if they believe her, had no clue about his mental health issues, about maybe he would be violent, then the only person who could give them that info would be her, so i wouldn't call it desperation, i would say this is a case where a defendant would have to testify although legally she does not have to. >> we're out of time, but i have to ask you, could a jury conclude, yeah, we don't think she really knew but she should
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have known that any good parent would have known and seen what was going on? >> they could but the court will instruct them that it has to have been reasonably foreseeable. it just can't be, she's a bad parent. she should have known, it has to be the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it was reasonably foreseeable this would happen. >> catherine christian, always good to have you on the program, thank you. up next, the future of the top gaza relief organization remains uncertain right now, and the dire situation unfolding for palestinian children. we're live in tel aviv after this. now earns 5% apy. 5% apy? that's new! yup, that's how you business differently. there's nothing better than a subway series footlong. except when you add on an all new footlong sidekick. we're talking a $2 footlong churro. $3 footlong pretzel and a five dollar footlong cookie. every epic footlong deserves the perfect sidekick. order one with your favorite subway series sub today.
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president biden has signed an executive order targeting extremist israeli settlers in the occupied west bank. it comes amid a surge in settler violence on palestinians there. nbc's matt bradley joins us now from tel aviv. matt, a 17-year-old american was shot dead in one of those attacks last month. so what would the president's executive order do, and what's the reaction where you are? >> reporter: well, the president's order would essentially punish those who were found guilty of this and already four names have been laid out. so this is essentially going to say that they would have visa problems trying to enter the united states, and the other would be sanctions. this is the kind of sanctions
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you see on other foreign actors, like we have seen with russian leaders, accused of crimes by the united states, or participation in crimes. this is the kind of thing that should be kind of dissuading for those people who would take action against palestinians. as you mentioned, we have already been seeing that. what we have been hearing here in israel already is reaction from right wing ministers, including the finance minister. he's one of the most far right ministers in a very far right cabinet, perhaps the most far right in the history of israel. he called this an anti-semitic move and said settler violence against palestinians is essentially a myth, well, it's not, but there are human rights groups who have documented it, including our cameras at nbc. we have done several stories on this, my colleagues, and so we know this occurs, and this is something that could raise tensions here. we also heard from the prime minister's office saying that this is an internal matter, essentially, that the police are taking care of this, that there's no need for exceptional
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measures by the united states. this goes to show that the biden administration is taking this seriously as president biden travels to michigan and addresses a pro-arab crowd. >> in a state that he very much needs to win. matt bradley thank you so much for the reporting. the head of the main relief organization in gaza said they will have to shut down operations by the end of the month if major donors don't renew fund, that includes the u.s. israeli prime minister netanyahu is calling for that agency to be dissolved all together following allegations that a dozen unrra staff members were involved in the attacks on october 7th. the stakes are incredible high as we hear from this report from
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hala gorani. >> reporter: a lift, mama, the little girl cries out. it's not her mother's hand, it's her hand traveling on an evacuation flight from egypt to the united arab emirates. inside the plane, zara, and 50 other, her legs were crushed in an air strike. mama, the girl cries again, but her mother is not there, her aunt says, so mama is what she calls her now. zahra to shy or traumatized to speak. on this mission, the eleventh of its kind, there are children with fractures, complex head injuries, some with cancer. there was little access. hear, children get pain relief. dirty bandages are replaced with fresh dressings.
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acting quickly means preventing amputations. do you want to go to gaza or stay out after ward, i asked her. >> stay out, she tells me. >> the journey started at the gaza border a 45 minute drive away from the military airfield in egypt. on our way there, miles of trucks carrying ailed unable to deliver their cargo. this is the border into gaza from egypt. patients are driven here on palestinian red crescent vehicles. there's a list, not every name is approved. some of the most critical ill may make it to this point and be denied enter into egypt. these children have made it out. a boy used to life in a wheelchair whizzes past our camera. on board, the smiles of children excited for their first ever flight and the temp think looks of those perhaps still adjusting to their new reality.
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when we reach abu dhabi, the last few patients are lowered on to the tarmac, while those able to board a bus in the terminal, out of harm's way, at least for now. hala gorani, nbc news in egypt. still to come, hey, up in flames, heavy duty tractors and police pelted with fire crackers. why farmers are causing such a chaotic scene outside eu headquarters in brussels, next. that can treat and prevent my attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. now i'm in control. with nurtec odt i can treat a migraine attack and prevent one. talk to your doctor about nurtec today.
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today hundreds of farmers in convoys created chaos outside the european union headquarters, protesting rising prices and cheap imports. farmers and tractors were pelting police with fire crackers, eggs and beer bottles.
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megan fitzgerald is following from london. >> we can start in france where we have been seeing protests for weeks now, spreading throughout europe. farmers are upset. french farmers say the cost of operating farms has gone up significantly. fertilizer, fuel and electricity, farmers say they are not paid enough. they are being strangled by environmental rules that are in place and that they're facing unfair competition from abroad, like ukrainian imports that are allowed into eu countries to help ukraine while it's at war. this is a sentiment among farmers permeating throughout europe from france and spain, to germany, italy and belgium, where you mentioned, we saw the anger play in brussels. farmers gathered outside the european parliament building. we're talking more than a thousand tractors blocking roads, fires were set. eggs were thrown at the parliament building. police in riot gear guarded barriers and had to use tear gas and water hoses on crowds. chris, these farmers are angry,
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and they say they won't stop until they see changes that they're calling for. >> is there any sign that those changes may be coming either from the eu or individual countries? >> yeah, you know, it's a good question. they have secured several measures so far. the eu has proposed to limit imports from ukraine. so limiting things like ukrainian sugar, poultry and eggs. the block's executive commission is proposing easing, some of the green regulations. in france, they'll put a stop to plans that will reduce subsidies on agricultural diesel. so far the programs haven't been letting up. >> that's going to do it this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3 right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right

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