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crowd of roughly 10,000 people to gobbler's knob in pennsylvania this morning where they all cheered when he did not see his shadow. phil's prediction is for an early spring, but you might maybe don't take his forecast to heart, because the groundhog has only been right about 36% of the time in the last ten years. so, yeah, maybe keep that winter coat out for just a little bit longer. all right. that's going to do it for us this week. have a wonderful weekend. i'll see you back here monday, same time, same place. and don't foreget, you can always catch our show online around the clock on youtube and other platforms. so, be sure to take a look. for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-balart. just this morning, house republicans issue a subpoena to the district attorney behind a major criminal case facing former president trump. also in washington, a potential vote on immigration could happen
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in the next couple of days. this after senate negotiators actually reached a deal, but could it all fall apart even before the tex is released? we'll talk to a top opposition leader from venezuela where hundreds of thousands of people are risking everything to come to the united states. in a few minutes, president biden and the first lady will head to dover air force base as we await the dignified transfer of three u.s. service members killed in a drone attack in jordan. plus, a major court date for donald trump's federal election interference case dropped off the court's docket. we'll explain why. and in just 24 hours, south carolina democrats will head to the polls in what marks a major test of enthusiasm among black voters, who are essential to joe biden's re-election. we begin with breaking news on capitol hill. this morning, house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan subpoenaed fani willis,
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demanding documentation from following allegations that willis fired a whistle-blower and allegedly misused federal grant money. nbc news congressional correspondent julie tsirkin joins us now. julie, good morning. bring us up to speed, exactly what is jordan subpoenaing? >> reporter: yeah, hey, jose. this is definitely an escalation for jim jordan who, of course, heads the judiciary committee, but also the weaponization subcommittee that was launched when republicans took the majority last january. this step by jordan marks an escalation because he had previously requested documents back in august, again in september, from fani willis when it comes to federal funds that jordan alleges willis had misused in her investigation of former president trump. you'll recall that trump had of course pled not guilty when indicted last year for trying to over -- for his efforts to try to overturn the 2020 election results. this marks another step because jordan has also been looking into whether willis has misused other federal grant money.
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you mentioned that whistle-blower, that's what this has to do with. they now subpoenaed willis to show them documentation because of some reporting that had been swirling around, particularly conservative outlets, that this whistle-blower had said that willis misused campaign fund -- federal funds, excuse me, when it comes to a youth gang prevention program. instead, jordan writing in this letter that these federal grants were used for mac books, swag and vacations. he also continues to say that the whistle-blower's direct supervisor stated the planned expenditures were part of your vision, that is, of course, willis' vision. i should note that fani willis had previously condemned these efforts by jordan and republicans saying that congress had no role to play in a state criminal matter. now, of course, we reached out to willis' office as well but have not heard back, jose. >> julie tsirkin, thank you very much. also on capitol hill, key senate negotiators say they have a deal
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on tougher immigration and asylum laws. chuck schumer said he'll push for a vote on this agreement next week as lawmakers wait for the actual text of the deal to be released. but even before the deal was reached, some republicans were already skeptical of handing the president what they see as a political victory. >> we're happy it is happening. >> construction trucks, what are you most looking forward to seeing? >> well, that's obviously the wrong sound, but the ethos of it is that some republicans are saying we don't want to get any agreement that could help the president. that's the focus among some on capitol hill. joining us now, nbc news senior national political reporter sahil kapur and brandon buck, former press secretary to former speakers boehner and ryan. also an msnbc political analyst. so, sahil, what's in this tentative deal? >> reporter: well, jose this would be the most aggressive border security and asylum overhaul bill that congress would pass in decades if it gets
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through. there is a lot in this bill. let's show a graphic that shows up the asylum changes in the package. the first thing it would do is limit options for people outside the u.s. to apply for asylum. the second is it would raise the initial screening standard for people at the border to qualify. if their case moves forward, it would speed up the processing of claims, it would cut off avenues for appeal if they're rejected, so they can't go through all the hoops and, you know, lengthen the process. and it would end the practice of so-called catch and release by enforcing government monitoring of migrants. that's the asylum component. this would also include aid to israel and ukraine. the provisions that republicans insist have to ride along with a tougher border bill or they don't pass at all. what is not in this deal is anything on daca or dreamers, anything to normalize the status of people in the country who are here illegally. that's a major concession from democrats and it shows how much the immigration debate has moved to the right over the last decade. for the first time we have a
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timeline on the path forward here. they're wrapping up -- chuck schumer has said the text will come either today, latest by sunday and the senate will start voting on this next week. latest by wednesday. that is a procedural vote. don't expect the final vote to happen on wednesday, but we should know a whole lot more by early next week as to whether this has life. the final holdup in these recent days and weeks has been money. as you know, a lot of immigration changes aren't worth much if the resources aren't there to implement them. that is what negotiators have been making sure is included in the final package. >> and, so, sahil, there are so many challenges ahead for this deal, including what we were just showing a second ago about politicians and republicans saying that this would be a political win for president biden. so they're against it. what are the main challenges that this agreement has? >> reporter: yeah, the overarch ing challenge is politics.
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this is an election year, this has been a very divided congress that has struggled to legislate. even doing the basics of legislating. the first thing that has to happen is this needs to pass the senate. it will likely lose some democrats on a progressive end and congressional hispanic caucus, but democratic support is expected to be there for the most part. on the republican side, it is a little bit more tenuous, bombarded in conservative media. donald trump has been taking shots at the it, speaker mike johnson opposed. the magic number we're told republicans want to get to is 25. that's half their conference, if it doesn't get to that, this might not move forward at all, speaker johnson has been criticizing this heavily, but arguing that maybe a bill isn't necessary at all, that maybe president biden can secure the border by using executive actions. his critics say this is a goal post shift after he's been pushing for a much more aggressive bill that his hard-liners were demanding. donald trump has been torching this deal at every opportunity. he wants to use the issue of immigration as a political weapon. he said the deal has to be perfect or there should be no
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deal at all. that is the single biggest obstacle and led to some misinformation according to the negotiators about the contents of this package. they need to release text quickly because the senators on the republican side worry that the trajectory of this bill declined. >> i'm wondering, you served with both boehner and ryan, they had opportunities in their time in leadership to get something done. didn't even let it go past, you know, off the record meetings between members of congress of both parties. do you think this is possible now? >> it sure doesn't feel like it. what we're seeing is that once again the rank and file of house republicans are rising up because this is one of the most core base energizing issues that we have. every time that we have flirted with doing something like this, the pushback is ferocious. and there is a lot of attention
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on donald trump. i would argue that this would be very difficult to do if donald trump didn't exist. and in 2014, when we couldn't do that, donald trump was still sort of a gas light birther. and we weren't able do this. now you add him to the mix, it is very, very difficult for republican politics. this goes beyond just not trying to give joe biden a victory. just this week, the house passed a child tax credit bill that would give joe biden a victory. it is unique to immigration. it is so core to the current modern day ethos of conservatism to be antiimmigration that any form that the politics of it will never really work out as long as republicans refuse the agenda and mike johnson made very clear if they pass this, he gets to decide if it comes to the floor and it is clear he's not going to put it on the floor for a vote. >> that's what boehner, you know, essentially had as a policy, right? just wasn't going to get to the floor. so i'm wondering, at least we heard one republican there that
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talks about this in a different context. here's what congressman dan crenshaw had to say. >> the height of stupidity is having a strong opinion about something you know nothing about. i'm extremely disappointed in the strange maneuvering by many on the right to torpedo a potential border reform bill. that's what we all ran on doing. >> so, is there any contradiction there and is there any possibility that what the congressman is talking about could have some logic and sway with others? >> there is a couple of things going on here. the senate has done themselves no favors by rolling out the notion of a deal without putting out any paper, any text, anything to guide people to what is in there and you're allowing a lot of people who are operating in bad faith to define what is in there and what's not. it is killing the bill while it
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is sitting out there. i don't understand why they don't put some type of paper out there to define it. there are a lot of people dan crenshaw who believe that we should actually get something. the problem is there is a lot more people in the conference, type of people in the conference who are more likely to threaten mike johnson's job. mike johnson may be protecting donald trump a little bit, by not wanting to put this on the floor. i think he's probably more than anything trying to protect himself within the conference. >> thank you, both, very much. really appreciate it. coming up, the u.s. prepares for retaliatory strikes against iranian-backed militias for the drone strike in jordan that killed three american service members. the latest after a break. plus, the latest on the historic trial in michigan, mother of a convicted school shooter back on the stand this morning. we'll play for you what she's saying under cross examination. new details on a small plane crash in florida that left three dead. we're back in 60 seconds. h in fe
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boost. 12 past the hour. returning to breaking news in florida. three people have died after a small plane crashed into a mobile home park in clear water last night. marisa parra is with us. >> reporter: it is very early in the investigation. but so far all signs point to a problem with the engine. perhaps the most telling clue that we have so far are those distress calls, those last minute pleas for help that came from the pilot on that plane. you can hear an atc, air traffic control audio, that's the communication between the pilot and air traffic control. he said he was losing his engine. now, we're learning more details from the faa which is investigating this right now. they said of the three people who died, the pilot and two people on the ground. i want to show you some video from the skies. you can see in chopper video how
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extensive this was. what you see there, the charred remains of a mobile home. this plane crashed straight into that mobile home and set the nearby homes around it on fire. we heard from eyewitnesses, from neighbors who described hearing and feeling the ground shake, hearing loud popping sounds, explosions. i want to take you to one man who described to us what he heard around 7:00 last night. >> we heard what we thought was like a motorcycle go by or something. and then a few seconds later, it was a loud bang, the windows shook, the house shook. even after the fire was, like, out, you really couldn't even tell there was a plane in there. everything was just gone. >> reporter: he also described how tight knit the mobile home park community is here. so, remember, jose, these are people that were living their everyday lives, this was just supposed to be another week day night and unfortunately one that turned deadly. and, of course, one thing we're
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looking at, not just the investigation, which continues between the ntsb and the faa, but also working to learn more about those three people who lost their lives. jose? >> marissa parra in clear did the clearwater, thank you. th families of the three service members that were killed in jordan. joining us now from dover is nbc news correspondent aaron gilchrist. good morning. what a solemn day. what can we expect? >> reporter: good morning. solemn is the appropriate word to use to describe what we're going to see today at dover air force base. the dignified transfer, a ritual the military engages in whenever service members die overseas in the course of an operation, and are brought back home for one final time before they are
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turned over to their families for burial. today, we will witness the return of the remains of the sergeants you see on the screen here, all army sergeants, sanders, rivers and moffett, who were killed over the weekend in jordan in that air strike. if i can back up a little bit for you here, today we know that president biden when he arrives here, he will meet with these families, all of whom he has spoken to on the phone. he will meet with them, spend some time with them. i think knowing what we know about this president he will ask about who these soldiers were and try to get to know a little bit about them and convey his gratitude and the gratitude of the nation for their service to this country. and then the president will be joined by the first lady and other dignitaries moving out to the tarmac here at dover, along with the families, who will be seated nearby a c-5 cargo plane that is return, the bodies here to the u.s. there will be a dignified transfer, a very quiet precision-based movement where
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we will see these carry teams remove the transfer cases that are draped with flags from the plane, place them in transfer vehicles that will then be taken to the mortuary affairs building here at the base before these bodies are returned to their families. it is a final tribute, really, jose, a final thank you to these soldiers for the service they have provided to their nation and i think it is worth noting that we won't see this happen live, the families, though, have allowed the media to watch this transfer, this dignified transfer happen so that their family members in other places are able to see this return home, and so that the american public can understand the sacrifice that these soldiers have made and the sacrifice their families have made as well. >> thank you very much. very well said. thanks. right now in michigan, the mother of a convicted school shooter is testifying for a second day in her involuntary manslaughter trial. up next, we'll play for you what she is saying on the stand today. plus, more details about the pennsylvania man accused of
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xfinity1stand10gs.com for your chance to win. 22 past the hour. in michigan, the defense rested its case in the trial of jennifer crumbley, the first parent tried for a mass shooting committed by their child. yesterday, crumbley testified her son showed no warning signs.
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>> as a parent, you spend your whole life trying to protect your child from other dangers. you never -- you never would think you have to protect your child from harming somebody else. i wish he would have killed us instead. >> reporter: nbc's adrian broaddus joins us from pontiac, michigan. good morning. what did we hear today? >> reporter: a very extensive and detailed cross examination by the prosecution. the defense rested its case as you mentioned just moments ago. that cross examination lasted about an hour. there were questions pointed and directed at jennifer crumbley, about her son's mental health, her vigilance as a parent, and text messages exchanged between jennifer crumbley, and her attorney, shannon smith. before we talk about those text messages, let's hear some of that cross examination that just wrapped up moments ago, jose.
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>> it was a surprise to me they went to the gun store that day. it was not surprising to me they purchased a gun that day. >> it didn't upset you they bought a gun? >> no. >> it didn't upset you that it cut into your christmas tree shopping time, but didn't upset you that they bought a gun. >> correct. >> he showed you how to use the gun? >> correct. >> okay the stance he took, you saw from the oxford high school video was the same, you saw that, right? >> i don't -- i don't know. >> reporter: now, yesterday when she was on the stand, jennifer crumbley testified that she wasn't responsible for storing or securing the guns in their home. that responsibility fell on her husband, james crumbley. she said she did not feel comfortable. and on that cross examination today, prosecutors asked her about her trust and confidence in her husband. basically pointing the finger saying that she didn't trust her husband with her son, she didn't even trust her husband to hold
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and secure a job, so why did she trust him with this powerful weapon, jose. >> so, adrienne, what is next in this trial? >> reporter: so what's next, closing arguments from both sides. the prosecution will make its case and tell this story and remind members of the jury what they pointed out. and the defense will come with their closing arguments, the defense said moments ago that they were ready for closing. after that, we will have jury instructions and the fate of jennifer crumbley will be in the hands of those jurors. jose? >> adrienne broaddus, thank you very much. coming up, trial delayed. calendar changes for the trials of former president donald trump. we'll explain after the break. plus, a new msnbc special takes a look at america through the eyes of an overlooked voting bloc, black men. trymaine lee joins us next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. st you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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deal with manhattan prosecutors to plead guilty to perjury for lying on the stand during trump's recent civil fraud trial. meantime, "the washington post" reports trump's march 4th trial date has been dropped from the public calendar of the federal court in washington. with us now to talk more about this, glen kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc lel analyst, also host of the justice matters podcast. so, glen, great seeing you. what is behind the move for the washington federal court there? >> yeah, jose, when i saw the reporting that the march 4 trial date has apparently dropped off the public docket, i mean, that kind of reinforces i think what we all know at this point, there is going to be some delay. the appellate court in d.c. has not yet resolved the absolute immunity issue, though, we're expecting an opinion any day now. but even once they issue that opinion, trump will have the
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opportunity to petition for a rehearing en banc meeting all of the appellate court judges sitting. he also did that in the gag order case and they unanimously rejected that rehearing, but the thing is, all of this is going to take some time. so it seems like a trial date one month from right now on march 4th is increasingly unrealistic. so that trial date will almost certainly get pushed down the road a little bit. >> glen, will that have an impact on any of trump's other cases? >> you know, potentially it will free him up for his backup auxiliary criminal trial, which is scheduled to begin march 25th in new york. of course, that is the falsification of business records case, brought by district attorney alvin bragg. and some people would observe, well, that's just doctoring some business records. i would call that an election interference case because we know he was doctoring those
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business records to hide the fact that he was making hush money payments to try to bury relevant information from the american voters, really in a very true sense robbing the american voters of the full value of their vote. so it is not just falsifying business records to avoid paying some taxes, it is rather to deprive the american voters of information that they were entitled to have about, you know, who they might want to vote for president. >> and so, with all these cases, do the courts work together or in any way coordinate, like, scheduling issues? >> that's a great question. they're not required to, but they often do. and i can say that based on my own experience as a prosecutor, having defendants who had criminal cases and multiple jurisdictions. but also judge chutkan publicly once announced during a hearing she had been in contact with judge merchan in new york about the march 25th trial date, when she was contemplating setting
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the march 4 trial date. we have some concrete information about how judges across jurisdictional lines do often talk with one another and coordinate on the setting of trial dates. >> and, allen weisselberg seems to be a reoccurring character in some of these cases. what kind of a witness is he? >> not a very good one, because he's now facing perjury charges for allegedly having lied in the civil fraud trial that was being presided over by judge engoron. and, jose, we don't know if there is any relationship between these two stories. judge engoron pushing a couple of weeks down the road, issuing his ruling in that case, and the fact that it looks like allen weisselberg, a witness in that case, may be charged with perjury, but it makes some sense, because before judge engoron goes final on his ruling, and issues his opinion, he probably wants to have as much information as he can about
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whether one of the witnesses who testified before him in the case may have committed perjury because if he relied on some of the testimony of allen weisselberg, he's going to want to make sure he the ruling he ultimately issues is untainted by any of those lies. >> glen kirschner, thank you very much. good to see you. and turning now to the race for the white house, tomorrow for the first time south carolina will officially launch a democratic race for the white house with its primary. president biden is expected to sail to a smooth victory tomorrow. recent polling shows support for biden among black voters slipping. joining us now for more on this is msnbc correspondent trymaine lee. it is always great seeing you, my friend. you've been speaking to black men in south carolina. what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right, jose. 2019, black voters came out and delivered magic for president biden, saving his candidacy. well, this time around, black voters, especially black men, aren't necessarily feeling the magic. i met with some of them.
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here's what they had to say. is there anyone that is getting you guys excited for the election? >> no. >> no, man. >> no. >> no, not really. >> reporter: i see you chuckling. >> i am not, no. i'm not. short answer. >> reporter: what about you guys? biden? >> so, i probably say that's where i'm leaning, but it is hard to say that i'm excited about it. >> reporter: how are you thinking about all this stuff? >> i think it is a big distraction. i think it is a big -- i want to say circus right now. it feels commercialized and people aren't giving me truth about a lot of things. >> reporter: what is missing from, like, the election cycle? what is missing? >> a good candidate right now. i'm not feeling trump, nor i think with biden, his age. some concerns there. >> joe biden's age is probably a chief concern for me. on the other side, donald trump
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is, you know, just as old as joe biden by a few years. so, i feel like, you know, as far as galvanizing and energizing a majority of the country, it's very lacking. >> reporter: not feeling it? biden is not giving you warm tingly feelings in your stomach? >> i want to say yes, but whatever excitement i did have for him, he's about to lose me. you know, so if it keeps going in this direction, i'll probably have to hop off that bandwagon soon. he's just not who he said he was going to be. >> reporter: are you going as far as to say you might not vote for him? >> so, i'm not going to go that far today. but i will say that i have enough disappointment in what i've seen that i could be persuaded to go somewhere else with my vote. >> reporter: are you hearing this a lot from your friend group? >> i'm hearing a lot that we are hopeful for the future of
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politics where it has more dynamism in the candidates. and that's something that we're not getting a sense of right now. it seems a lot of old hat. we have seen both of these gentlemen in the position now, and not necessarily seeing, you know, the level of excitement that we maybe expected out of them. >> reporter: observers, jose, say by paying attention to what is happening with black voters in south carolina, you can get a broader sense of how black voters might be thinking down the line in other states. and that seems to be true. i've been going all across the country, part of our special airing on sunday "black men in america: the road to 2024." a lot of black men especially say they're exploring options because they're not necessarily excited, enamored, engaged with the idea of president joe biden a second time. >> trymaine lee, thank you so very much. make sure to tune in on sunday night for the premiere of "black
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men in america: the road to 2024" hosted by trymaine lee and charles coleman jr. that's only on msnbc. coming up, we'll go down to eagle pass, texas, where a convoy of vehicles is on the way there for a rally. we'll also speak with a top opposition leader from venezuela about why millions of people have left her country, many coming here. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. e. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.
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terminated for cause. the courts that have ruled found no merit in these claims. turning now to new york, where several people believed to be migrants were arrested after an attack on police officers in times square. nbc's stephanie gosk has more. the. >> reporter: a growing firestorm after this dramatic attack on nypd officers, some of the suspects migrants, according to police. seven people were arrested for the assault in times square. >> i'm appalled at this. the city -- we had enough. >> reporter: several of the suspects have arrest records since coming to the u.s., according to senior law enforcement officials. nbc news has not been able to confirm their immigration status. now, some have been released as the cases are pending. >> any case, when you attack our police officers, you should go to rikers island. >> reporter: the district attorney saying violence against police officers is never acceptable. it is paramount we conclusively identify each defendant and specify each participant's role in the incident.
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governor kathy hochul, a democrat, responding to the attack. >> get them all and send them back. you don't touch our police officers. you don't touch anybody. >> that was stephanie gosk reporting. and now to the latest on the humanitarian crisis. texas is seeing a decrease in the number of people crossing the border, arizona is seeing a significant increase. customs and border protection says there has been a 192% increase in the number of encounters in the tucson sector between the first three months of fiscal 2023 and the first three months of the 2024 fiscal year. this come as a convoy of vehicles makes its way to eagle pass, texas, where it plans to hold a rally to call on the government to address the crisis at the southern border. david noriega joins us from eagle pass. good morning. you've been speaking with some of the people who have come to eagle pass on this convoy. what are you hearing from them?
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>> reporter: good morning, jose. the convoy is currently still about 180 miles away from here in dripping springs, just west of austin. that's kind of the organized convoy. the numbers there are a lot smaller than the organizers initially forecasted and sort of led people to expect. it has been picking up pretty substantial numbers as it makes its way through the south. now, all week we have been seeing people, individual people driving in their personal cars down here to eagle pass, with the hopes of joining that convoy. a lot of them, though have been confused about where the convoy is, when it is supposed to get here, where it is going to be, so that shows a bit of the organizing issues this convoy is encountering. we have been talking to people like this all week including some we spoke to yesterday. i'll play you a short clip of what he had to say, take a listen. would you say immigration is one of the main issues or the main issue that motivates you as a voter? >> no question about it. immigration, number one. economy, number two. the number keeps getting higher and higher. what i don't see is, what is not
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being broadcast to the american people, is how much this is costing us. i'd like to see a ticker on what is it costing the american taxpayer for the migrants, you know, that we're paying for. >> reporter: that's what i'm hearing consistently, jose, these people who are arriving here for the convoy, they have adopted and believe in the language that people like governor greg abbott used to describe this. they call this an invasion. it is important, i think, jose, that they are not just -- they don't just care about this issue, they're really galvanized by it. it is the thing they care and think about the most, it is motivating -- it is a really important part of their lives and what they think about in their day to day life. jose? >> david noriega in eagle pass, thank you very much. let's talk a little bit about venezuela. a country of about 29 million people, where nearly 8 million have fled in recent years. now, about 600,000 of the 8
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million people who have arrived here in the u.s. in the past couple of years are from venezuela. the united states eased sanctions on nicolas maduro's regime after the venezuelan government agreed on a set of conditions for an election to be held. but the regime has not lived up to any of the deal, including last week announcing that the main opposition leader is barred from running for office. with us now from caracas is that opposition leader. maria machado. thank you very much for being with us today. it may be difficult for many to understand the reality of what is happening inside venezuela today. you want to run for president in an authoritarian regime that doesn't expect basic human rights. what is the reality for venezuelans today? >> thank you, jose. this is a great opportunity. the reality is that almost 90% of our population want desperately change. we want our children back home.
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we want to live in a country that can grow with families together, with opportunities for all, and turn venezuela into the energy hub of the americas. and that's precisely what we're working on. we are not naive. we have been denouncing the regime for years. it is a violation of human rights between the international criminal court and it is a source of -- of the whole region. and, of course, migration will not stop unless we can have a future in venezuela. it is an issue that brings us all together and we need the support of international community. we will have elections, presidential elections this year. and that will run against nicolas maduro and we will defeat him. >> well, how you're able to do that when you are living in a country with a regime that for, you know, more than 16 years,
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through two different heads, has been controlling everything, shutting down anything that looks like freedom of expression, freedom of even movement. how do you think that you can do that in a country that is ruled by an iron fist? >> actually, 25 years already. and you say they have destroyed everything -- every institution, taken control of the system, but they have totally lost their social base. they have also ransacked our country and that has brought that brought huge tension among the mafia families that form the system. international community, even those that used to be allies of
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maduro, in the end it's about citizen strength, that goes with organization. we had a primary process in october. no one thought it was possible to do. the regime opposed we having that huge event taking place. almost 3 million venezuelans showed up. i got more than 92% of the vote that day. that gives us a huge legitimacy and strength to move ahead. it's hard. it's tough. we moe who our base is. it's dangerous. maduro has to understand it's his own interest to accept ordinarily transition to democracy. i believe we can have a true negotiation process. guarantees will be given. in this moment, we need more than ever, the u.s. community, society and bipartisan approach
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to accompany venezuela in this quest for democracy and freedom. >> there are so many times people talk about root causes and some of the issues behind the reality that we are living through. we are talking about hundreds of thousands of venezuelans who have come to the country in the last couple of years. 8 million venezuelans have been forced to leave your country, the largest oil reserve, has gold. it's a rich country in so many ways. it's so poor. i'm wonder, the root causes of people coming and leaving, who are the people that are leaving? do you think that anything could change so that they would not feel that they have no other option but leaving? >> imagine a family where there's no father and a mother earns $1 a month as a teacher. there's no future for her
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children. she's willing to risk her own life and all kinds of humiliations, walking for months, just to see an opportunity for their children back home. this has happened with young professionals and students. these are good people, people that loved our country. venezuelans don't want to leave. we want our children back home. if you don't have a future, and you think your family doesn't have a future, you have no option. unless we get rid of the system through the electoral process, the fact is that many millions or a couple millions, will leave in a new wave. that's something the government in the region, columbia, brazil, have to understand. that's why i insist we are aligning the interest of every international actor, it's in the best interest to have venezuelans bring back our
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children, our families together and turn this into a prosperous country with strong democratic institutions. it's not going to be easy. the regime has been willing do anything to stay in power. but they are in the weakest position ever. it's important the world understands that. the social base and members of the party in power are coming over to us because they know we are going to bring back society and bring justice and freedom to all. >> thank you so very much for being with us on msnbc. appreciate it. >> thank you very much, jose. up next, major news. it's great news on the economic front. how the markets are reacting. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. t high protein,
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57 past the hour. huge economic news this morning. 353,000 jobs were added last month, the labor department said. that's nearly double the amount expected. dominic chu joins us. this is a really good bit of news. >> yes, it is. it has interest rates moving higher, which means the price of u.s. government debt is falling. it's falling because good news is bad news. bond investors hate inflation and the loss of buying power.
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while at points over the last few months markets had been looking at increasing odds of an interest rate cut as soon as next month, those odds have dissipated. interest rates are pricing in a 80% chance the fed does not cut rates in march. one of the main reasons is that americans are making more money, more are more employed. average hourly earnings rose by .6%. that's 19 cents per hour more than last month, which brings the total to $34.55 per hour. that's higher than last year. as for the job gains, it's health care, professional and business services, retail and government. the stock market today is more mixed on the news. some of the fear of higher for longer interest rates is being countered by good earnings reports by meta platforms and
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amazon as well. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. see you tomorrow night. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the middle east on edge awaiting the u.s. military response to the deadly attack in jordan by iran-backed militants. this hour, the families of the three soldiers killed in that attack are about to meet with president biden, the first lady, and america's top military brass as the remains of their loved ones are brought home. hopes that hamas will compromise as its leaders react to a proposed hostage and temporary cease-fire deal. even israel -- even as israel is keeping up the pressure in gaza.

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