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drenched in historic rainfall this weekend with concerns over life threatening flash floods. how the west coast is preparing after already being pounded by rain earlier this week. this driver filmed himself navigating rushing waters on a flooded freeway. plus, the block buster january jobs report smashing expectations. what it means for you and what it says about the state of the economy. also, the chilling new details about the son accused of decapitating his father in pennsylvania and putting it on you tube. that's coming up. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. i want to start in delaware where the dignified transfer of three fallen service members is now taking place. nbc's aaron gilchrist is at dover, we are expected to get the full video of transfer, and we'll play that for our viewers. walk us through what you know about what's happening right
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now. >> reporter: chris, we haven't gotten any indication that the dignified transfer has ended. i know it's typically a fairly short series of steps that we would see happen on an occasion like this. we know that president biden participated in the dignified transfer today. he visited with the families of the three soldiers who died overseas last weekend for about an hour, we believe, before everyone moved from that meeting center to the tarmac for the dignified transfer, which is a very solemn ritual that is executed here at dover air force base. this is where the armed forces, mortuary affairs, operations happen when soldiers are brought back, any service member is brought back from overseas after having died during the course of an operation. they come here to dover, they are greeted with this dignified transfer where these transfer cases are removed from an aircraft, and then taken to a
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transferred vehicle before they're taken to the mortuary building here and the positive identification of the soldiers happens before they are placed in caskets and returned to their families. that is the order we would expect to happen today, but really, this is a moment for these families to have to realize the gravity of what has happened to them. i spoke with a widow, a marine corps widow earlier this week about her experience at the dignified transfer of her husband who died in afghanistan, and this is a moment where families are faced with sort of thinking about, well, maybe there's something that's not real about this, but when they see these transfer cases coming off of the aircraft, it is that much heavier for them to have to deal with the loss of a family member, a loved one who is gone into the service. for the young women, 23 and 24 years old, sergeants mofette and sanders, they went into the
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service expecting to be able to come out and sort of go on with grander plans in their lives, and this was such an abrupt way for these families to learn about their deaths, to have to deal with this new reality for them. so today, they are here to receive their loved ones, along with the president of the united states and the first lady who represents the nation, a grateful nation for the service of these soldiers who died in jordan last weekend. >> a grateful nation indeed, and just again, to reiterate, we are not taking this live. we have been asked not to take it live, but we will have it when they send the tape to us and we'll show it then. aaron gilchrist, thank you. another wave of torrential rain is on its way to california, and it's supposed to be even more dangerous than the storms that flooded streets, and prompted emergency evacuations earlier this week. nbc's dana griffin is reporting from san diego. dana, it's got to be a lot of exhaustion there. what's the region expecting now?
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>> such exhaustion, chris, because you've got to remember, not only did the storm that passed through wednesday, thursday, dump a deluge of rain, last week, san diego was inundated with rain that forced flooding, a few people were found dead, and a lot of homes were flooded. right now, there's a high surf advisory because some of the waves you see behind me are forecasted to reach up to 10 feet. so this storm, the latest storm may have moved on, but there's a second, more powerful one that's expected as early as saturday evening. i also want to show you some video that we have from yesterday showing drivers in long beach. this driver was on the 710 freeway filming himself. this is a freeway that looks more like a waterway. and also, i want to remind you about that landslide in san clemente, this is in orange county, california, where the rain that inundatesed the area just last week caused this image that you see here. there is now an emergency declaration to get up to
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$10 million for the orange county transit authority to try to fix this so that people can commute from orange county all the way down here to san diego. so these are just some of the lingering impacts as people brace for yet another atmospheric river that is going to really impact more specifically the bay area to santa barbara region. that's north of san diego county. people are reminded, if you need to get supplies, do that now, and if you see standing water, do not go through it. you can be trapped. we've seen a lot of swift water rescues, and more importantly, people can be killed being in the submerged vehicles. a reminder, before the next atmospheric river moves in, and there will be widespread rain that will also impact the west coast sunday through monday and possibly tuesday, chris. >> you take care out there, dana griffin, thank you. and now to that unexpectedly robust jobs report, smashing
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expectations and nearly double what forecasters predicted. nbc senior business correspondent christine romans joins us with more. 300,000 new jobs. what does that say about the strength of the new economy? >> it says the american job engine is humming, really revving into the new year here, and you look at what a wide margin it beat expectations. this was stronger than the most economic of official forecasts. economists expected a cooling of job growth, cooling to 185,000, 353, smashing expectations, and december was revised up adds well. it looks like the end of 2023 ended strongly, and it continued into this new year. the jobless rate there staying at 3.7%. look, this is a band of unemployment, a jobless rate that is 50-year low here, it's been stuck for some time. watching an overall tight and strong labor market, and it means wages in the month are up
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4 1/2%, when you've got inflation, 3%, 3.4% for the official cpi, paychecks are growing faster than the grocery bills. they have better purchasing power. the white house emphasizing they're hoping people start to feel the strong economic numbers. the president issuing a statement, america's economy is the strongest in the world. there's proof of that with employment gains of 350,000 in january. a strong start to the year for the american jobs engine, chris. >> christine romans, thank you. we're learning new details about the man who allegedly decapitated his father in pennsylvania. joining us now, nbc news investigative reporter tom winter. what have you got? >> sure, chris, you and i talked about this case earlier this week when this incident first happened and spoke about the you tube video that shocked so many folks because the person responsible for this, had a
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video where he held up the head of his father. justin mohn, charged with his murder, with abuse of a corporation. today, law enforcement officials went further into that video, all consistent with what we've previously reported how he advocate for the killing of federal government employees, federal law enforcement, put out a judge's address. so they talked about that today. they also talked about the fact of how he committed the crime, shooting his father first, and when they tracked him via cell phone to a national guard base in pennsylvania, they found that gun missing one round, so they were able to put together those forensic items of evidence. you're looking there at the house where this crime allegedly occurred. they also talked about his mental state. law enforcement was asked whether or not this individual was insane, given the type of crime that we're talking about. let's take a listen. >> there is a complete and utter difference between what we would do, that person's crazy, to what is legal insanity, and that will
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be evident later when we prosecute this matter. >> i think what they're talking about here, chris, is based on the evidence they have uncovered, based on perhaps his statement, the you tube video, they're going to say this individual, mohn, was clearly aware of what they were doing, why they were doing, and it wasn't something where they had some sort of out of mind mental health episode, chris. >> thank you so much, tom winter. well, president biden and the first lady just attended a dignified transfer at dover air force base for the three american soldiers killed in a drone attack in jordan. their families there as well. here it is.
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>> so i understand that there was a break in the feed. do we have it back now? so let me go to nbc's aaron gilchrist who is in dover, delaware. i should let people know that
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they were trying to adjust their television sets, there is no sound. when we say this is a dignified transfer, that is very much what the military wants. they want this to be a moment of silence, a moment to honor those lives lost. tell us more about what happened today. >> reporter: it really is, chris, and let me explain what you just showed our viewers. as you noted, because the families gave us permission, we weren't allowed to take cameras on the base to witness the dignified transfer. there's no audio allowed to be recorded during this process. the camera feed that you just saw was the pool feed, the travel feed, the camera that travels with the president. that's why you saw it focused on the president. there is another feed that we expect to be getting in the next few minutes that is focused solely on the dignified transfer as it happened. what you saw in the video was
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president biden and the first lady, dr. jill biden, the chairman, cq brown, and the chief of staff of the army, general randy george, walking on to the tarmac, stopping at the open door of the back of the cargo plane that was carrying the transfer cases of the three soldiers who died in jordan over the weekend. they bowed their head. there was a prayer, as we understand it from a chaplain who was there, and we saw the president and the first lady walk over to this dignitary area where the secretary of defense, lloyd austin was standing along with the secretary of the army, christie warmoth, who i should note is the first woman secretary of the army, receiving these soldiers' bodies now, which included two young women. that's the video angle that you saw there. we do expect to see video coming out of those transfer cases being removed from the aircraft and the president standing at attention for that moment. also obviously he is the
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commander in chief. he has the sole responsibility of making the decisions that would affect the medical examiner of our armed services and where they're deployed and the actions they're engaged in. there's a special weight that sits on the president's shoulders for what happens to our men and women in uniform. the families of these soldiers were sitting in an area outside the view of cameras, watches as the dignified transfer took place and for the first time, seeing these transfer cases of their loved ones coming in, and we understand that the images of the that process happening will be coming shortly. we will not see video of the families. that is not allowed. this is a moment for them that is a heavy moment and a private moment as much as can be possible, one that they chose to share with the general public
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because they want people to understand the sacrifice, chris, that these families make and that these soldiers, airmen, marines, sailors, national guardsmen, space force personnel as well. the sacrifice they all make in service to their country. >> thank you so much, aaron gilchrist. i also want to bring in our msnbc military analyst, and medal of honor recipient, colonel jack jacobs. i want to say a little bit about the three people who lost their lives in service to our country. sergeant william jerome rivers, he is 36 years oldment they're going to add his name at the carroll county veterans memorial park. sergeant kennedy sanders was 24 years old. she was so proud to be in the military that she went in uniform to visit schools and talk to students there, and she was close friends, we are together, with sergeant breonna
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mofette, 23 years old, they spent a lot of time together. the bonds, it's just not a band of brothers anymore, right. everyone becomes very close when you are in service in this way. they were hoping to come home together this summer and attend a nicki minaj concert. instead, they are coming home in this dignified transfer. tell us about the importance of seeing this, of understanding that there are all across the world people who are willing to put their lives at risk for our democracy, our freedoms. >> it's a very good point. we forget about that. >> real people with lives and families. >> back in the second world war, everybody served. we had something like 19 or 20 million people in uniform. and then after vietnam, we decided we were going to outsource the defense of the country to a small number of men and women who were willing to do
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it because we didn't have the political will to have a draft, and we attracted large numbers of kids who were willing to give up whatever they were going to do to join the military and put on the uniform. and for a wide variety of reasons. they were going to defend the republic. statistically, most americans do not know anybody in uniform because we don't have universal service. and as a result, we forget about them. we forget that there are kids, and even as far as i'm concerned, if you're 46, you're a kid. there are kids who are out there right now, all across the world, defending us, the united states, our interests and the interests of our allies. and we forget about them because we done know them. and it's only in circumstances like this when they will have made the ultimate sacrifice when they have given of themselves
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for our interests that we pay attention to them. and it's really really important that we see this and see the results of their decision and of our decisions here back at home, chris. >> and we have been told we may roll the fuller tape of what happened at air force base honoring these three fallen service members. let's wachl. watch.
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and so three americans have come home. their coffins draped in american flags, met by their families who now will have to face life without them. i want to talk about them because i think it's important that we know what was lost here. again, 46-year-old sergeant william jerome rivers, he's been in the military for for a while, a dozen years, he joined in 2011 in new jersey. he was an interior electrician. he served a nine-month tour in iraq back in 2018, and again his final service in jordan. breonna mofette, only 23 years old, her mother francine was the first female in their family ever to serve in the military, so she became the second.
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every morning her 8-year-old sister would call her to say hello while riding to school. her close friend, sergeant kennedy sanders, 24 years old, her mother had some wonderful words for people. she said, she lived a big life for only 24 years. live your life like kennedy. do what you want to do, set goals and live life. you never know when the end is here. i want to bring back colonel jack jacobs, you know, the war you served in, jack, vietnam, 58,000 plus americans lost their lives there. many of them would not have necessarily chosen it. there was a draft then. the folks who serve now, they chose this. they chose to defend their country. it struck me in reading their
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biographies in reading the stories of their families, their friends, and it's something else you said when we were watching this, that they go in for different reasons. they went in because their mom was a member of the military, maybe they went in because they wanted to learn to be an electrician, but they are all, every one of them, proud to have served in the u.s. military. >> and we're really lucky to have them and all the kids who are out there, the small number of kids out there right now who are defending us. i got a little story about that. my father served in the second world war, the army in new guinea and the philippines, was dra gooned into the army when he was studying electrical engineering at the university of minnesota. about eight weeks before graduation, hated getting dragged out of school, hated the army, hated getting shot at. got out of the army the instant that he could when the war was over, and then when he got to be
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my age, all he and the friends of his who had survived the w all they would talk about is how proud they were in having saved the world, and they had. right now, we have young kids out there just like this who are doing exactly the same thing. >> thank you, jack jacobs. we'll be right back. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i won't let me moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me... emerge as you. with tremfya®, most people saw 90% clearer skin at 4 months... ...and the majority stayed clearer, at 5 years. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them.
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half of americans say israel's 15-week response in gaza has gone too far. that's according to a new poll by the ap. according to the palestinian minister of health, more than 27,000 people have died in gaza, many of them women and children. and now, israel's defense minister says forces are turning their focus to southern gaza to rafah where tens of thousands of palestinians fled for safety. one man told reuters that if the tanks keep coming, quote, we will be left with two choices, stay and die or climb the walls into egypt. if the tanks storm in, it will be a massacre like never before during this war. joining me now, nbc's matt bradley from tel aviv. matt, where do things stand right now, both on a cease fire and hostage deal? >> reporter: yeah, well it sounds like those two are very much connected, chris, and what we have been hearing just in the past couple of hours, we heard
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from hamas's head of the political bureau, who's based out of qatar in do ha. he released a statement saying they had considered the proposal hashed out in paris by cia director bill burns and his counter parts from israel and egypt, and actually the prime minister of qatar. they presented that to hamas a couple of days ago. we had been hearing there were glimmers of hope, particularly from the spokesperson of the ministry of affairs. it looked as though hamas was starting to agree to this, and the israelis agreed to this somewhat in principle. we heard from hania himself, he said they wouldn't be considering the release of hostages until they got maximalist assurance, the same asks he had from the beginning, which is, and i'm reading here, a complete end to the aggression, the withdrawal of the occupation army outside the gaza strip, he means the israeli army, the lifting of the siege
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imposed by israel and egypt that has been in place since 2006, reconstruction of all of the damage that you're seeing now on your screen, and entry of all life requirements for our people and the completion of an integrated exchange deal. i think he's referring there to the hostages being held in the gaza strip in exchange for palestinian prisoners who are being held by the israelis. so as you can see, a long list of demands there, and it really is unclear whether or not this is hamas's final position, whether this means that the whole negotiation has to go back to the drawing board, back before that paris meeting, all the way back to shortly after the last hostage negotiation deal in november that released more than 100 hostages, but it does look as though we are no longer as close to a final deal as it looked last night when we heard for the spokesperson from the qatari ministry of foreign affairs who said there was somewhat of an agreement in principle on both sides, even if hamas does bend their position
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and agree, there's no guarantee the israelis will necessarily meet them in the middle because the israeli cabinet themselves, the war cabinet which has now been discussing this deal, the one, again, that was hashed out in paris, they don't look like they're necessarily going to agree to it either or that they're any closer than hamas is. so amidst all of the optimism we have been hearing about the hostage negotiation deal, it looks like we might be back to square one, chris. >> oh, boy. thank you so much for that, matt. we appreciate it. i want to bring in florida democratic congresswoman, debbie wasserman schultz. i know you have traveled to israel a couple of times since october 7th. this is an area of particular interest and knowledge for you. i want to get your reaction to what you just heard because this has been obviously on both sides an emotional roller coaster with so much hope, particularly among the hostage families, some of whom just visited the white house this week that there might be some sort of deal.
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based on what you heard, how far away do we seem to be? >> let me say, chris, i heard the emotion in your voice, watching the dignified transfer of the incredible, remarkable patriots that lost their lives in jordan who i would add whose lives were lost because of hamas's aggression, because hamas attacked israel indiscriminately and unprovoked and slaughtered 1,200 of her citizens and took more than 240 into captivity, 130 plus of which still remain. so what i say to hamas's response to the proposal that's been discussed in paris is that this war, the violence, as heartbreaking as it is to see the loss of civilian lives, which by the way are also the fault of hamas because they use their people as human shields, as heartbreaking as it is to see
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that, this war could end right now if hamas would simply stop its violence and aggression and its sworn commitment to eradicate israel and kill jews. that ball has been in hamas's court from the beginning, and a continuous loop of october 7ths is something that no nation should be expected to live under a threat of, especially from a terrorist group on their doorstep. the united states wouldn't put up with that, nor will or should israel be expected to. and my reaction is of outrage and anger. and frankly, having been to israel twice now, being in the region on october 7th, and then traveling into israel several days later and returning with the same congressional delegation, we were there and met with the prime minister of
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qatar, and met with the president and asked them to stay engaged and use, particularly qatar's leverage with hamas. my response is that the prime minister of qatar in particular needs to lean in on the leverage he has as someone, as a nation that's hosting hamas's leadership, so that they don't continue to have only blood on their hands with not much to show for it. >> as you well know, this is an incredibly complicated issue, and there are many people who agree with everything you said about hamas. this is their fault. they started this. they are a vicious, murderous, terrorist organization. this is not a dispute. but innocent lives of the palestinians continue to be lost. there is a pull from the associated press showing half of americans say that israel's 15-week old military response in gaza has gone too far.
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what do you say to them, congressman? >> it's been 119 days. where there are innocent civilians, israeli civilians, being held hostage by a terrorist organization, deeply buried underground in tunnels they created specifically to wreak terror on israel and israeli citizens. >> are they wrong in worrying that the longer the war goes on, the greater the risk to those hostages? >> the families, which i have met with countless times, i meet with a family almost -- nearly every day as they come to washington and as i have been in israel. first and foremost, the hostages need to be the priority to be released and that is what president biden has done every single day, chris, is, you know, he's not playing politician. he's focused on being the commander in chief. it is a difficult job, one that
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requires strength and diplomacy. certainly contrasted with the former president who, you know, couldn't be trusted to protect ukraine or the rest of the world's democracies from putin running over them, nor to be trusted to help protect taiwan's democracy, and certainly couldn't be trusted to make sure that we can bring those hostages home and end the terrorist threat that hamas poses to israel. so we have to make sure that we have a president like joe biden who continues to exercise his massive diplomatic skills and his strategic ability as the commander in chief to help make decisions that are going to bring this war to an end, bring the hostages home, but not before we make sure that the terrorist threat that hamas poses and commits to continue to pose to israelis to an end as well. >> which i think leads a lot of
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people to ask, well, what does a realistic off ramp look like, an advise tore president biden, a genocide scholar, i knew her when i covered the obama administration. i'm sure you know samantha power. >> yes, i do. >> just publicly clashed with her staff over the crisis in gaza. one employee saying the administration's policy has left them unable to be moral leaders, left the u.s. unable to be moral leaders. what, for example, is the realistic chance of a two-state solution, where is the off ramp, dealing with the reality of where both sides here. >> i support a two-state solution, i have my entire career and voice public support for it. i think people have to understand what's going on in the ground in israel, israelis are paralyzed right now. imagine you're in a country that
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nearly everyone is one or two degrees, if not right in their own family connected to a hostage who has not yet been returned and that every single day, both in the north and the south, on the doorstep of a country not much larger than the state of new jersey, you live every day with a terrorist organization sworn to your destruction, and willing to sacrifice, to kill themselves, and their own civilians in order to kill jews. so i think it's pretty understandable that perhaps israelis are not quite ready to take the step of beginning to negotiation a two-state solution. first, hamas needs to release the hostages that they still hold. many of which are elderly, wounded or are women, and second, we need to make sure that that terrorist threat is ended, and the world leadership in the arab league need to step up and use their leverage to
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bring that terrorist threat to an end and use the leverage to get those hostages home. it is heartbreaking to listening to the families whose children, my own children's age. i have 24-year-old twins and a 20-year-old. there are many young people that age still in captivity. this is a first things first moment, and president biden is the commander in chief. as our diplomat in chief is using the skills that he has in diplomacy and strategy and strength of his relationships, which by the way, his predecessor blew, and left us in shambles on the world stage. we have the president that we need right now to help make sure that we can be the catalyst to bring all of this to an end and bring the hostages home and end the terrorist threat. >> and perhaps we'll have you back another time. we can talk about the political risk that this poses for joe biden, but i have to say thank you, congresswoman debbie
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wasserman schultz, much appreciated. >> certainly. up next, new information giving the first clear indication of how the trump legal calendar might turn out as the election heats up. we'll break it all down after this. to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.
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election interference trial has been dropped from the court's march 4th calendar throwing the rest of the schedule into flux. the first of trump's four criminal trials could be the new york hush money case which a number of our legal analysts say may be the weakest of the lot. let's bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard. for donald trump, is this his dream scenario, weakest case first, push the others back to the point where it's maybe difficult if not likely to get a verdict before the election? >> reporter: the hard part for donald trump and the hush money payment is the trial could take a matter of weeks. right now it's currently set to begin on march 25th, which would come six days after march 19th which is the day the trump campaign believes it will hit the delegate threshold to become the gop's presumptive nominee. there's a pretrial hearing in
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which judge marshan will hear the counts against him. if the hush money payment case goes to trial on march 25th, donald trump here in the heart of the summer could very well be found to be a convicted felon, and you're looking at 34 felony counts that are up against him, and not to diminish the civil trials that have been leveed against him, this would be the first of a criminal trial against him and it has not been seen how voters would react to having a convicted felon as a general election nominee, and the potential ramifications are not known at this point, and in no situation does donald trump want to have convicted felon next to his name while running for president. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. that is going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" 1:00 to 3:00 eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues now with

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