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growing up, my parents wanted me to become
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a doctor or an engineer. those are good careers! but i chose a different path. first, as mayor and then in the legislature. i enshrined abortion rights in our california constitution. in the face of trump, i strengthened hate crime laws and lowered the costs for the middle class. now i'm running to bring the fight to congress. you were always stubborn. and on that note, i'm evan low, president joe biden launched -- and i approve this message.
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first officially sanctioned democratic primary of 2024 last night. as expected, he easily beat back to challengers to win the south carolina primary with 96% of the vote, which will earn
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him all of the states delegates. while biden's victory was never in doubt, it comes at a time of growing concern among some democrats about flooding enthusiasm for biden, particularly among some key demographic groups that are representatives in south carolina. four years ago, south carolina came later in the primary schedule. it was the scene of high drama in the democratic contest. biden had lost badly in the first three states in 2020 and it seem like his campaign was on its last legs. just days before the vote in south carolina, biden received a key endorsement from the powerful and influential south carolina congressman, james clyburn. that helped biden lockdown support from the black community in a key voting bloc for the democratic party. uninsured his victory in south carolina and beyond. well, this time around, the drama is not about winning south carolina where the democratic nomination, about whether biden can build voter enthusiasm that he needs to win against donald trump in november. in 2020, biden had the
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overwhelming support of black voters. 87% of whom voted for him compared to 12% who voted for trump, according to exit polls. four years later, they're assigned them through the others flagging among some key groups in the democratic electorate, including some within the black community. a new nbc news poll released this morning shows support for biden dipping to 75% of black respondents, 16% say they will support trump. likewise, muslim and arab americans, younger voters appear to be growing disillusioned over marcus continued support of israel amid its ongoing war in gaza. yesterday's primary in south carolina showed that many people are still willing to head to the polls and vote for biden, but as november approaches, democrats will have to work on reenergizing those groups and rebuilding the coalition that helped them win the white house four years ago. joining me now is the democratic congresswoman from the state of texas, jasmine crockett, a member of the
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oversight and accountability committee, as well as the agriculture committee. congresswoman, good to see you, thanks for being with us this morning. i want to get some perspective from you. we're nine months out from the general election, but these numbers are these numbers. how concerned are you about this polling and the trends that show, in some cases, donald trump pulling ahead of president biden? >> yeah, so, it is concerning. at the end of the day, you and i both know that nine months is an entire lifetime when we start talking about an election. we know that we all thought hillary was gonna win and she didn't. it was some of that kind of last minute maneuvering that happened, that happens during campaigns. i think it's important that we listen, we pay attention. i know you mentioned this special that's gonna be coming up a little bit later about black men in america. i think we have to address these issues right now and start to have a conversation instead of making them an
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afterthought. i do believe that south carolina showed us something that's really important. number one, that president joe biden has more support from the democratic base than trump has from the republican base. the question is, will there be enthusiasm on either side? and i want to remind you, just as you said, there honestly was a lack of enthusiasm for the president when he was running last time. people keep forgetting that. yes, people were energized over obama, but they were never super excited over president biden. they decided to make the mature decision, either we can go with someone who we believe will keep us safe or we can go with someone who has shown himself to not be our friend at all and wants to be a tyrant. >> so, let's examine the little bit more. in 2020, it was a battle over the soul of america, remarkable idea upon which to campaign. we've seen charlottesville, the growing white nationalism of racism, people, like you said,
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made the mature decision. that decision, it occurred to me, is yet clear today, regardless of whether your main issue is the climate or immigration or israel gaza. on none of these issues, or reproductive rights and banning books, on none of these issues with donald trump provide a better solution than what joe biden. >> absolutely. you're absolutely right. right now, the president has been pushing forward with this idea of finish the job. in his first two years, when he had a democratic house, had a democratic senate, he was able to get monumental change done. now, as you and i both know, just because you signed a bill into law, it doesn't mean that people will feel at the very next day, but we are starting to see the benefits of these amazing bills that have passed. we know for sure that the cost of insulin has gone down. we know for sure there is record unemployment when it comes to african americans. we know for sure that we're
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hitting records when it comes to the stock market. we know for sure that this administration has been over seven billion dollars into hbcus, unlike the 250 something billion dollars that trump into hbcus, nothing more than a reauthorization. we also know that while the president pushed forward to be very aggressive on student loan forgiveness, this administration has been able, despite what the supreme court has done, to deliver 100 and $37 million worth of student loan debt to over 7 million borrowers. we know this administration, even with their hands tied, with three trump republican picked justices, has fought for the people every single day. while we don't necessarily have to agree with everything this administration has done, we can absolutely say, without question, this administration has been fighting for the people instead of against the people. that is exactly what we will get if we end up with another
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trump presidency. >> the biden campaign is on the phone, they just called and said, can we get jasmine crockett's number, we would like her to be there on the road for us. great to see you, as always, thanks very much. democratic representative, jasmine crockett of texas. all right, coming up, his grandmother who raised him was born into slavery, he worked through college as a janitor. he rose to become a key diplomat in a civil rights leader and the first black person ever to win the nobel peace prize. the remarkable story of ralph bunch's next. bunch's next adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: marnina learned that most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. if you have hepatitis b, don't stop dovato without talking to your doctor. don't take dovato if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects.
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confederate soldiers and generals every single year, but then we get to black history month, you hear about rosa parks, malcolm x, and martin luther king, every single year for 12 years, as if they were the only three, you know, black
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heroes of the country. >> that was remarkable college student, taylor turn into, took part in a really eye-opening conversation for me back in october 2021 in jackson, mississippi. whatever bill she across america series. taylor's point was well made, martin luther king jr. day, all the, mexican rosa parks or icons, but there are so many more black heroes to discuss. to that end, we want to take time this black history month to introduce some of them to you. today, i want to tell you about ralph bunch. he was born in 1904, detroit, to a father who's a barber, a mother who is an amateur musician. when he was a young man, his parents died. he and his sisters relocated to los angeles with their grandmother who had been born into slavery. he worked ajayi help with family finances, but his brilliance was evan early on. attended ucla on a basketball scholarship, worked as a janitor, he was a valedictorian of his college class, majoring in international relations. bunch remained in academia, conducted research in
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decolonization, earned a ph.d. in political science. he toured the political science department at howard university. during world war ii, he worked in wartime intelligence, first at the assess, then the u.s. state department. after the war, bunch played an integral role in forming the united nations. the united nations would become bunches home for 25 years. he worked closely a first lady, eleanor roosevelt, toward the passage of the universal declaration of human rights. in 1947, he became involved in mediating the escalating conflict between arabs and jews in what was then palestine, because despite what some of what you might hear these days, there was a place officially named palestine until 1948. he was appointed to be chief aide to the lead negotiator. however, in the midst of the negotiations, the lead negotiator was assassinated by terrorists in jerusalem. bunch then became the acting lead negotiator, he worked tirelessly for 11 months. he brokered the disagreements
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between the new nations of israel and its neighbors, egypt, jordan, lebanon, and syria, to end the 1948 arab israeli war. renowned for his friendly negotiating style, bunch nailed down most of the agreement wall playing billiards with arab and israeli representatives. -- in 1950, he became the first black person and the first person of color to win the nobel peace prize. here is video of him accepting the award. he was admired for his unwavering commitment to peace as the only option. in fact, he once said, the best negotiators should be, quote, biased against any, biased against war and for peace. they should have a bias which would lead them to believe in the essential goodness of their fellow man and that no problem of human relations is insoluble. they should be biased against suspicion, intolerance, hate, religious and racial bigotry. despite his declining health in the 1960s, bunch marched with
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dr. martin luther king junior from selma to montgomery, alabama. you can see him here in these pictures. in fact, he's the one wearing glasses here. you can see him attending the march on washington, right there, right next to martin luther king, where dr. king gave his famous i have a dream speech. he worked for the united nations in a number of rules, most notably as the undersecretary general. his health issues forced him to resign. he died in 1971 at the age of 67, the pc worked hard to achieve was always an easy. in today's climate, bunches achievement is even more impressive. the message he gave in his nobel lecture after receiving the peace prize is a salient now as it was then. there are some in the world who are prematurely resigned to the inevitability of war. among them are the advocates of the so-called preventive war, who, in the resignation to war, which merely to select their own time for initiating it.
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to suggest that work can prevent war is a base play on words and the despicable form of warmongering. the objective of any who sincerely believe he is clearly must be to exhaust every honorable recourse in the effort to have peace. the world has had ample evidence that war begets only conditions which beget further war.
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this morning, joe biden is going to beat donald trump in november, motivating black voters is absolutely crucial. according to the latest nbc news poll out this morning, biden support among that very voting bloc has slipped nationwide. i wanna dig into the question of how that can be accomplished. biden is unlikely to turn up black voters without understanding the values and concerns. in a brand-new documentary, the correspondent for the trymaine lee and charles coleman junior explore the intersection of race, culture, and politics through the eyes of black men in america. here's what it means. >> the top threat to political power for our community isn't, you know, blocks voting donald trump, it's african americans disengaging. disillusionment and growing cynicism about either party, that activism wall taken off ramp. the third parties are an off
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ramp. >> is there any point to suggest black men, especially in mass, we'll be taking the off ramp? we have a sense? disillusionment? >> if 10% of black men vote third-party, the election is over. >> that's just 10%. >> yeah, election is over. doesn't take a lot. it's not like these battleground states are being won by large margins, they're not. >> black men in america, on the road to 2024, it airs tonight on msnbc at nine pm eastern. it is a must watch. now, on the other side of this break, both tremaine and charles are gonna join me to discuss their journey and what they've learned. more velshi in just a moment. elshi in just a moment rgic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt. >> woman: what's my safelite story? nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. i see inspiration right through my glass. so when my windshield cracked, i chose safelite. they replaced the glass and recalibrated my safety system. that's service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ bladder leak underwear has one job.
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friends and colleagues, msnbc correspondent are mainly, who is in charleston, south carolina. also with us is charles coleman junior, celebrates attorney and msnbc legal analyst. you see them very often filling in for me on the show. both men are hosting a new msnbc special that airs tonight at nine pm eastern and then we'll stream on peacock. it is called black men in america, the road to 2024. guys, thank you for being with us. tremaine, united shot yesterday. you run a barbershop, talking to a black man about, you know, what our polling is reflecting. slipping enthusiasm amongst black men for joe biden. i spoke to jasmine crockett a few moments ago who said, remember that enthusiasm for biden was never really a thing.
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it always had to be built up. it's not naturally occurring like it was for barack obama. what's your sense on the trend and why it's happening? >> you know, ali, i think part of what nixon's, but jasmine crockett mentioned, you know, it doesn't take you being excited to stand up and be mission driven. you understood the assignment, you understand what's at stake. you look at the other side and see the hostility or perceived hostility from the right wing in donald trump. there is another part that i think should be concerned for those who pay attention to these kinds of things. it's that if you don't have enthusiasm, if you don't feel connected, if you don't see, you know, someone that is speaking directly to you, offering you something better, something -- you might take that off ramp, right? you might not vote at all. it's not just enthusiasm for enthusiasm's sake, it's not that folks don't understand always what's at stake, if they don't feel connected, don't feel part of the process, if, as jasmine crockett mentioned, of black men are an afterthought, you're gonna get
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this. also, the idea that when black men are expressing themselves politically and you don't want to hear what they have to say, they are attacked, they don't show up in milwaukee, they don't show up in philly, they don't show up in atlanta, they end up blaming the subset of black voters for the losses. i think it's important for folks in this moment to really pay attention and really listen to the voices a black man in particular. in so many ways, they're mirroring the polling that we're seeing. these are excitement, these dwindling approval ratings, right? black men are reflecting that. so, it's not -- a bunch of other people. when it comes to black men, who were so often her literally mischaracterize in the shape in, they get blamed when things don't go the way we want things to go. >> -- thank you by way from we're sitting in. this morning when i got up to get dressed, i took a tie, i thought to myself, why would you point to tie? i never wear one. subconsciously, i knew i wasn't he sitting next to you. you made this very point,
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whether you talk about black men we are talking about young progressives or talking about people who think climate is the biggest issue, you talk about arabs and muslims who are disillusioned with joe biden's position on israel and gaza, you can say that you're not gonna do better under trump, but that doesn't necessarily validate someone's concerns. you're concerned about black men, black men tell you something that you don't want to hear about how they feel about joe biden, you discount them, then you're perpetuating the same problem. >> absolutely. i think people are not understanding the idea that we can't have it both ways. we cannot say, as a community, that were not a monolith, and then reject wholeheartedly those opinions that are different from our own. i think that's part of why tremaine and i did what we did with respect to the special. we wanted to represent different perspectives in an objective and balanced manner. i also think that in terms of the larger conversation about democracy, ali, people are missing -- here. this is very important. if you do not feel like
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democracy has served you well or protected you or that you've had full access to it, trying to sell someone on the defense or preservation of democracy is not gonna be an effective pitch because it's not something that has never mattered to in that way. you have to end that messaging, communicate, number one, the level of accountability that we have missed the mark before and we have more work to do, as well as here's it's gonna be different. right now, the discussion is about, hey, we need to preserve things as they are so they don't change. well, for people who democracy has not worked for, it needs to change. >> preserving the status quo is not motivating. >> correct, that doesn't motivate me to get up and go to the polls. these are the things we want to communicate in the special, in the dialogue, in the conversations we have. >> you guys are talking to a lot of black men about critical issues going into the 2024 election. let's listen to a little bit of it. >> as black men, 2024, what is the biggest thing you're listening for in terms of
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someone who's asking for your vote? one issue. >> equal protection under the law, criminal justice. everything else begins and ends if we are protected to live under the law like everybody else. i can't do nothing dead. >> economic freedom, y'all. once we have economic freedom, you know, other freedoms are attainable, education, quality health care, good policing in your community, but rain now, -- pay for because black people cannot even afford life insurance. >> my thing is, something that's gonna directly affect my community. being a rapper, like a, lot of those issues it's there for us to clean up. do not i'm saying? people call my phone, it's the holiday season, people call my phone all the time, they need things for the kids, anything that's going to directly affect my community, where it's gonna take a load off of us, a burden off of our shoulders, i'm all for. >> tremaine, how does that
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conversation jive with the stuff -- who are not as famous or as well known as those three guys? >> you know, ali, it kind of mirrors it perfectly. society a that he mentioned, having protection under the law, in so many ways, a lot of black men feel there is in the safe space for them. politically, certainly, but also socially. when you think about all the pressures inside -- trying to put food on the table, educate your children, when you have a tenth of the wall of the average white man, more likely to be killed and shot by police -- not only through the lens of the system and state violence, the access to resources, education, all the pipelines that takes some of our young men from kindergarten and start being in the suspension system, pipeline to prison, right? these things don't happen in a vacuum or in a silo. it overlaps with. how they're experiencing
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politics in this country. part of it is, can identify with certain politicians? but also, do the virtues of these politicians and the policies of these politicians, do they actually, you know, feed me, protect me, make me feel seen? do i have a home, politically? when people are saying on the streets, we want fresh ideas, we want fresh standards, is this the best you've got? the answer can't be to shut those people down. it drives almost perfectly. that's what's so interesting, not just talking to every day, you know, average joes on the street, but the same conversations being had with those who have intellectual or celebrity -- it's amazing how there's this congruent, severn with the vast diversity of our lived experiences, vast diversity of the way we think about politics and community. there is a driving, they're ali. >> charles, i want to play a section from the special in which you were in conversation about whether or not this is a real, legitimate worry for democrats. let's play this. >> should democrats be worried?
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-- >> yes, they should be, absolutely, they've squandered the relationship. very much like republicans squander the relationship. so, you have right now this look over towards what trump is because what they're getting now is not meeting their political interests or political needs. >> what are both sides doing wrong? >> everything. everything. >> what could both sides do better? >> just acknowledge our history. can you just acknowledge our history in this country? >>

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