that they's behind the scenes dialogue happening between the militias in syria and their sponsors in iran, they continue to attack american forces in syria. >> the conclusion still is by the u.s. that iran does not want a wider war, right, very briefly? >> yes, that is a conclusion. it is an open question how much control they have over their proxies operationally. >> especially not the houthis. thank you, missy ryan. appreciate you bringing it on home for us. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow us online and on social media. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. buckingham palace has just announced that king charles has

been diagnosed with cancer and is postponing public duties. he left the hospital a week ago after treatment for an enlarged prostate. joining us is nbc's molly hunter. i understand the palace has just released a statement. what are they saying? >> chris, that's right. we just got the statement. i'm just reading it for the first time as well. the big thing to understand, as you know, we covered the king's health scare last week which was really presented as a routine procedure. he was only in the hospital for three nights. he was in the london clinic right here in central london. right now we have the statement from buckingham palace. it says during the king's recent hospital procedure for benign prostate enlargement of owes that's what we knew. we knew he had gone into the hospital for what he and the palace called a routine procedure. a separate issue of concern was noted. subsequent diagnostic tests have identified a form of cancer. this is coming directly from buckingham palace.

his magistery commenced a schedule of regular treatments during which time he's been advised by doctors to postpone public-facing duties. we expect he'd postpone a couple of weeks of royal engagements while he was recovering. he was taking private, personal time for recuperation the palace said last week. clearly he's going to be taking more time out of the public eye. the statement says throughout the period his magistery will continue to undertake state business. the king is grateful to his medical team for their swift intervention which was made possible thanks to his recent hospital procedures. he remains wholly positive about his treatment and looks forward to returning to full public duty as soon as possible. chris, last sentence in this statement, his magistery has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation in the hope it may assist public understanding for all those around the world who are affected by cancer. so certainly a little bit of transparency from buckingham palace. they do not say what kind of

cancer. they do seem to say or at least suggest that it is a separate issue of concern. we really don't want to speculate here. but a separate issue of concern from the enlarged prostate which he was so public about sharing, one of the big reasons king charles wanted to share his initial hospital state just last week was because he wanted people to get tested, wanted people to be aware of what was happening and be proactive about their own health. this appears to be something entirely different for the 75-year-old monarch. chris. >> when they talk about the fact that he's chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation, it is widely understood in the united states that speculation is part of the stock and trade, frankly, of the tabloids in the uk. have they been -- not asking you to repeat random speculation, but had there been speculation,

are folks looking for more details? i say that from the american perspective where a doctor might come out who is treated someone of that stature and explain exactly what was going on. i take it we don't expect anything to that extent there? >> absolutely not. i think there's a different set of rules when it comes to the royal family here in the uk. as we know, the princess of wales, kate, spent almost two weeks in the hospital. last week she and king charles were both discharged from the london clinic on the same day. kensington palace, chris, was very hush hush, very mum about her condition. we still don't know what put the princess of wales in the hospital for nearly two weeks with abdominal surgery. he apparently wanted to be out in front about the enlarged prostate condition, about his routine surgery. he wanted to talk about it. he wanted people to know and not worry because at the time, the palace said it was benign. clearly whatever has changed, and we don't know what type of

cancer this is, he does not want to say or buckingham palace is not saying tonight, we will not see a doctor from the london clinic or a doctor that has treated the royal family in the past come out and start talking about what risks the 75-year-old might face. >> yeah, 75 years old. but generally, and correct me -- my memory may be off. he's been in pretty incredible health. he's somebody well known, for example, for organic products, for spending a lot of time outdoors. he's considered for a 75-year-old to have been in pretty great health. >> absolutely. he has. certainly kind of we see the king and we see pictures of the king a lot spending time outdoors. the royal family, we know, spends time out in the countryside, out in scotland, of course. outdoor activities are a serious part of king charles' daily life. whatever this is, it will be very interesting if buckingham pal mras and if king charles

wants to share those details with the public. what we do know is he started treatment today. clearly they felt comfortable sharing that. where he is undergoing that treatment we don't know. of course, we mow the royal residences can be ramped up, can be equipped with medical staff. they were both in -- both the princess of wales and king charles were in the london clinic, one of the best surgical hospitals here in london. we don't know if he's undergoing those treatments in a clinic, in a hospital or somewhere more private, chris. >> has there been any mention -- again, i was handed this statement which is from the royal communications office of buckingham palace, that there will be any updates, anything else forthcoming, any briefing in person to members of the press? >> one of the things both buckingham palace and kensington palace do not do, and i think clearly one of the reasons

they're putting out a lengthy statement, a much longer statement than when kate went into the hospital or when king charles went in and when he was discharged just last week. one of the things they do not do is do rolling updates. even if we are hounding their spokes people with questions, they do not provide rolling kind of updates as we go. they provide information when there are big notable milestones that they feel like they can share publicly. that's where the information comes. there will not be additional information, as we just discussed, chris, from doctors, from other sources, from the hospital. we will learn anything additional about king charles' health, about what kind of cancer this may be, what kind of treatment he may be undergoing from any future statements from buckingham palace. no expectation we'll get any additional statements to night and certain know expectation that we would be given any opportunity to be at a press briefing or ask any questions like that. >> i want to bring in nbc news

medical contributor dr. vin gupta. dr. gupta, thanks for being with us so quickly. i don't want to get into too much speculation here. we don't know what form of cancer the king has. all we know is that during his hospital procedure which we reported on for a benign prostate enlargement, a separate issue of concern was noted. they did subsequent diagnostic tests, and they have identified a form of cancer. are there obvious things that might have been checked or have been found during the procedure he had for an enlarged prostate? >> chris, first of all, thank you for having me. it's important, to your point, not to speculate or talk about things we do not know. having said that, i'm taking this interview from four walls of an icu. what we often do when we're caring for surgical patients that might be coming in for procedure, just like king charles did for removal or for

treatment of his prostate enlargement is we look at basic labs. chris, you and i talk about -- weave been talking about medical diagnostics for the last five years. some of those basic labs include what do your blood levels look like, your immune fighting cells? what about the -- just how many red blood cells you have in your body. these basic labs, a complete blood cell count is a very common lab we get pre surgery or pre procedure. to avoid speculation, these basic labs might have heralded a problem maybe in king charles' blood that could have suggested maybe there might have been a second form of cancer. that is likely a possibility. there are basic screening labs to make sure there's no obviously contraindications to move ahead with a procedure for a prostate that we would otherwise get to make sure that it was safe to proceed with surgery. is there any problems in the

blood that would prevent blood clotting from happening normally? are there too many cells we typically assess for in this complete blood panel. many of your viewers have heard of a cbc. those are the things we look for typically on any patient that gets a procedure. not knowing a lot, that's something we get and might herald a need for an additional set of diagnostics. the normalcy of that blood panel is something that would be called into question here. rare that we would get other procedures proactively. for everybody out there, we talk about cancer screening for, say, colorectal cancer, things like colonoscopies for men and women. unlikely that that would have been something we randomly get in this case. the last thing i would say, in addition to blood tests that might have heralded a problem with the blood itself, when people think about blood

cancers -- again, i'm not saying this is relevant to king charles' situation. we think about conditions like leukemia, multiple myeloma. that's the spectrum of illnesses where a blood count might have heralded a problem. there's so much we still need to learn. the other thing to keep in mind is that, if somebody goes in for a procedure like to treat an enlarged prostate, we typically may get ct scans; imaging of that part of the body. that could also have revealed, chris, some sort of secondary cancer process that could have resulted in more testing. there are natural set of tests that generally occur in this specific instance both pre screening, before the procedure, and then perhaps post procedure like a ct scan to understand what might be happening with king charles. that is where something likely could have been identified that prompted more testing.

>> i don't think it's being too speculative to say that when you are king, that they might do more tests just out of an abundance of caution than they might in other circumstance. let me bring in suzanna lipscomb, professor at the university of rode hampton. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we have very limited information. we know so far he's been diagnosed with cancer and regular treatments will start on monday. we also know this has come at a pretty bad time for the royal family in medical terms because, of course, the princess of wales is out of action having had abdominal surgery. we're told she'll be out of action until easter. up until earlier today we thought the prince of wales was going to be putting aside public duties for a little while in order to be by her side.

it was announced earlier today he would be going back to public duties. at that point they thought, well, we can't have three members of the royal family not facing the public. so obviously they knew at that stage, but clearly the king has only been on the throne for such a short period of time, has done an enormous amount of work in that time, state visits and public engagements. yet, he's a man in his 70s and they've discovered something that needs acting on immediately. >> i want to bring in royal tv editor tim uart. i wonder if you have any expectation -- i want to read the last part of the statement. his magistery has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation and in hope it may assist public understanding for all those around the world who are affected by cancer.

by not saying what kind of cancer he has, by not saying what the treatment is or how long he might be away from his royal duties, it does by its very nature inspite speculation. is there likely to be pressure on the palace to release more information? >> we're already speculating, aren't we, really? everybody is going to continue to do so, probably rather less in this country than overseas outlets like yours. i mean the palace is very sensitive to medical issues. i remember a few years ago when the duke of edinburough was in hospital and we were then speculating it was a bladder infection and there was all sorts of speculation going on. they were very twitchy about that and they don't like it. i think they're hoping by

issuing this statement today they're at least going to try to calm things down a bit. whether we'll get more information about how serious this is or otherwise, it's really too early to say. i suspect they caught this, whatever it is, early enough, one hopes, for it not to be serious. they will hope to be able to say in a week or two that whatever treatment it is that he's receiving is being effective. right now we don't know. as you say, there is now constantly going to be speculation. doctors will be appearing on air and in print, trying to guess what this might be. all we know so far is it's not prostate cancer which was the initial suspicion, obviously, because of the earlier treatment he had for a benign enlarged

prostate, and something else was discovered during that process. we just don't know what it is. >> of course, he was going to step away for a bit. he was going to be away from his royal duties. but he's been seen since then, right? was he out just yesterday taking a walk? >> yes. >> has the king been seen since hospital? >> yes, he has. he's been seen indeed. there was a photograph that's just released today. he's returned from the royal family's norfolk home back to london to begin this treatment. i mean he is a very active guy. he's 75 years old. he's not -- i think he's 75. i may have gotten that wrong. yes, he's 75. sorry, i was just checking. he's 75 years old. he's been in good health. he's active. he's an active king. he's out and about. he enjoys meeting people, and

he's had the job obviously since his mother died in september 2022. and all the signs are so far that he's been doing a good job. his popularity has slightly increased. he's respected, by and large, not universally, of course, because there are those that don't support the royal family come what may. but he was an active king, and the statement that we've had today suggests that he's going to get back to those duties as soon as he can. i'm sure he'll want to. >> as a general statement, dr. gupta -- and again, without speculating, but generally speaking, 75 -- there are different ages, if you will, of 75. in his case, as tim points out, somebody who is in good health, who is active, someone who is known to watch his diet very carefully, and in most medical cases, that would bode better

for him even as a 75-year-old. >> that's right, chris. when we talk about getting treatment, whatever this treatment is, chemotherapy treatment, if there's other forms of treatment here, we often look at something called performance status. how does the patient look? how active are they? as tim mentioned, very active. that heralds how well they'll tolerate treatment. everything you just mentioned is critical because that means king charles, as he goes through this prescribed course of treatment has an excellent performance status, whether it's 75 or, frankly, 65, that's a great predictive sign for what we hope is a great outcome. i'll also just say, we know this is not prostate cancer. but what are the typical causes of cancer in men. it's not prostate, which is number one. colorectal car ser is two.

lung cancer, skin cancer, in some men testicular cancer. over the course of the next few days, imaging, that radiological imaging that happens especially when we're talking about management of prostate issues could have revealed potentially something in the gastrointestinal tract. again, more information has yet to be provided. when we think about what's most common amongst men that age, those are the things that come to mind. >> susanna, would you expect a coming together of the family? we know and you pointed this out, the princess of wales, kate as she is more widely known, is he coupe rating herself. what would you anticipate saying as the king has returned from sandringham? >> i think two things. first of all, we'll see very much a demonstration of unity as far as we can. and we'll see whatever members of the working royals are

available will be put on the front line of public duty. so we'll be seeing the princess royal, for example. we'll see the other siblings of the king in action, obviously with one deposition. i think that will be to indicate that there is still strength even while the royal family's numbers are looking low. i think the other thing we can expect is continuing messages of positivity from the palace. the initial statement has framed the king's response to this as being one of being positive about his treatment, wholly positive, in fact, they say. i think that tells you about the man, that he wants that message to be put across. he believes in a sense of honesty and being frank about what is going on without absolutely giving all away his private details. yet, very much conveying that he

plans to tackle this as best he can and get back to public duty. he's trying to frame a narrative around this which is one in which we should not worry, business carries on as usual and we can expect normal things from the royal family quite quickly. business as usual i think is going to be the message we get above all. >> that brings me to another part of this statement, dr. gupta. unfortunately, most of us have been around people who have had cancer, have gone through cancer treatments, if not people who have gone through cancer themselves. the one part of the statement that really struck me is that he has today commenced a schedule of regular treatments and that his doctors advised him in the meantime to postpone his public-facing duties. but then throughout this period, his magistery will continue to undertake state business and official paperwork as usual.

>> chris, that was beautifully said. that was an interesting part of the statement as well, in terms of what his doctors are suggesting he do or not do. often in this case, all of us within the four walls of the hospital care for individuals genuinely that are quite fragile and whether they have a history of cancer or another medical problem. all of us also want them to make sure they're not necessarily on their feet stressing themselves. i do think the public eye in the uk -- i'm not well positioned to comment tate on that. from what i've seen, it's filled with a lot of stress potentially. those are things we want to minimize, especially through the throes of media.

they've been able to so rapidly diagnose what is happening through the microscope. usually it's not just, well, maybe there's a problem. we want to figure out what's the problem at a really microscopic level and pair that with the right treatment. it's very precise. the fact they're already there -- to your point, he's the king, they've moved very quickly. that's a great sign that diagnosis has already been rendered, minimal delays in diagnosis mean early treatment. early treatment means the best possible outcome. this is all great signs. >> if i may, tim, just very quickly. you may know in the united states there was controversy with our defense secretary who did not inform the president or the american people or congress when he went through treatment -- was diagnosed with prostate cancer and went through treatment. what would be the protocol there. we just got a statement from rishi sunak wishing his

magistery a full recovery. is there any protocol for who would get the details beyond the immediate family? z. >> well, i'm pretty sure that downing street would be kept abreast of this, obviously. if the king is more seriously ill than we think he is. if it's going to mean a curtailment of his constitutional duties in a longer term than just over the next few weeks, then yes, there has to be some sort of involvement with the government. i think it's too early really to speculate about that. i mean the other point in this is -- and suzanne na was touching on this about the family rallying together. the timing is very difficult for them because kate who is now the princess of wales, is out of action at least until easter after her abdominal surgery.

her husband, prince william, who is the heir to the thrown has taken a lot of time out to be at her bedside and is only going to go back to duties next week. if you look at the rest of the royal family, the numbers are rather thin because, as suzanna was alluding, prince andrew is out of the game, the king's brother. harry we know is out of the game as far as the royal family is concerned. they're getting a bit thin on the ground. it is going to be difficult in the weeks ahead for them to fulfill a calendar which traditionally is fully pull. i mean, princess anne, yes, she works tirelessly. she's not going to be able to take on the jobs that the king would have done. there's going to be some problems there. people are going to be disappointed. there are going to be royal events that aren't going to

happen. it's a challenge for the royal family. >> and maybe, suzanna, i've been watching "the crown" too closely. it seems the royal family is loathe to cancel ever any public event, the mott of planning that goes into it, the amount of anticipation, wherever they may travel, in some cases involve raising money, right? >> yes. this is an enormous procedure. imagine the logistics of the thing. there's very much that sense, the public is expecting them, that these will be appointments that many final who have waited for months or years to make. there is a sense already i think from many charities who are waiting to see if their patronage will be confirmed by the royal family, by the king, that actually people want to see that connection continuing. so they want to see the royal family turn up to the events that mean so much to them.

these will be local things and people will be proud of them. but it does seem that there may be some absence. i think, also, there's another challenge here as well which is that as a country, we're not used to really dealing with a monarch who is unwell. the king himself has been well most of his life. of course, his mother the queen was also well for most of her life until the very, very end. anything about her health was kept very much under wraps. i think it's going to be interesting to see how, as society in britain responds to this period of undoubt speculation despite what the statement has said, because it is something to think there may be a vacuum there and to worry about this period. i think everybody is also going to have in their heads the idea that he's been waiting to be king for so very long and then has been king for such a short

time, and to hope we're not going to see one of the greatest sort of juxtapositions of the time in waiting and the time serving that history has offered. we're hoping he has a few more years as king. he has such a potential to do great things and started on so many good directions that it would be i think very disappointing. the final thing to say is, of course, once again, one doesn't want to bring everything back to harry and megan. it does point to their absence again because if the people on the ground are few, you needed that extra couple. another couple under the age of 50, to come in and take some of the strain and the fact they're not there is really obviously today. >> thanks to all of our guests. up next, we'll have much more on the breaking news out of buckingham palace. king charles' cancer diagnosis. we'll take a quick break. is we'll take a quick break thursda.

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duty. i want to bring in molly hunter, vin gupta and suzannah lipscomb. let me pick up where we left off, if i can. i think obviously one of the big takeaways here is the pressure now on prince william, molly. he's someone who -- you mentioned this at the top, had wanted to stay by his wife's bedside. she is out at least until easter. now his father has been diagnosed with cancer, and the pressure that is out there for more public-facing duties by a twinding number of the royal family, molly. >> reporter: that's exactly right. you heard suzannah make that point. the bench is small. harry and meghan not being here is very conspicuous, especially for a younger britain.

we know prince william is a very devoted public servant. we expected him to be there for his kids and wife a little longer. we heard today he was coming back to public duties this week. we now know why. this puts a tremendous amount of pressure on prince william to carry the torch for the royal family. the three most senior royal families, ket, prince william and king charles, really this trifecta has been carrying the crown for the last couple months. you have two out of view. as you mentioned, kate will be out of view until april. and you kim imagine, queen camilla will want to be supportive of her husband and support whatever he needs. we won't see her necessarily out. we will start to see prince william out. these engagements are long scheduled. people are not only excited about royal engagements, but

they're in the calendar months and months in advance. when we talk about the princess of wales' health and king charles' cancer diagnosis, these came as surprises. there were events scheduled all spring long. without two other younger energetic working royals, without harry and meghan, this puts a lot of pressure on prince william. he'll have to balance it. he'll want to be there for his father. he'll want to be there for his wife and his three very young children, chris. >> so i assume, tim, will prince edward want to be there for his dad. how much is he out and about there, his wife, sophie and any of the grandchildren, bu tris, eugenia who do visits on a regular basis? >> in their case, not on a regular basis at all.

i think i'm right in saying they're not working royals. prince edward is a working royal. without being sort of unkind or unfair to anybody in the royal family. if you've gotten an event and you're expecting the king to turn up or expecting prince william to turn up and they don't make it and you get instead prince edward, who is quite low profile as far as the public are concerned and as far as the media are concerned, as suzannah was suggesting earlier, there's going to be a lot of disappointment. for some of these charities -- i remember very vividly when kate middleton first came on the scene. she would only have to turn up at some small charity -- her particular interest at that time was art as a therapy for children. she'd just have to turn up at some small charity center in a town somewhere in britain, and

millions of pounds would pour in. that's the pull that these guys have. it's not to be underestimated. they are extraordinary magnets for money when it comes to charities. prince edward, who you mentioned, is i'm afraid to say without meaning disrespect to him, is not in that league. prince harry was and could be again, but he's not here. so they are thin on the ground. the batting order is getting kind of small. so the king needs, we hope, to be back in action before too long because there's a lot of burden put on other members of the royal family to fill those diaries. >> tim, you said something fairly provocative i think, that prince harry could be again. what exactly are you thinking? >> i'm thinking that prince harry is a senior member of the

royal family and was, was on the line in this country, extraordinarily popular. he's not extraordinarily popular now. rather the reverse. there's no suggestion that he is going to come back and resume royal duties. the point i was making is his absence is a big player out of the kit, if you like. when william and harry first appeared on the scene all those years ago, they were the great hope for the future, the then queen saw them jointly as the future of the royal family. obviously harry was not going to be king and william was. hairy's popular appeal was immense. at one time -- i think i'm right in saying after the queen, he was the most popular member of the royal family. so his absence is a problem in terms of public appeal.

prince edward, respected as he may be, doesn't tick that box. princess anne does not attract the same level of media and public attention. she does attract the same level of respect, very much so. but she doesn't attract that level of enthusiasm for the royals, if you like, public enthusiasm that harry did, william does, the king does, to be fair to a slightly less ser extent. so that's a problem. i'm not suggesting that harry is going to come back any time soon, because the issues surrounding that are so complicated, to appear at the moment to be insoluble. >> well, we just have this, tim. i'd like your reaction to it. from a source close to the duke and duchess of sussex. for those who don't follow the royal family closely, that's harry and meghan. the duke did speak with his father about his diagnosis. he will be traveling to the uk to see his majesty in the coming

days. are you at all surprised by that? >> no, i'm not surprised. they have a very close father-son relationship as you'd expect. for all the troubles, all the water that's flowed under that particular bridge, charles and harry remain close, and the king has enormous affection for his son. i'm not surprised at that. that's a big step away from him saying, look, i'm going to come back and help the firm out, as they like to call themselves. i can't at the moment see that happening. it will be very difficult for prince harry any way to re-establish himself as a working royal. there are so many issues. as i say, it seems to be insoluble. i'm not at all surprised he's come back. his father has been diagnosed with cancer of some sort. it's natural that he would. >> let me ask you, if i can, something else about this statement. we talked about the fact that the doctors advised the king not

to take on public duties, very understandable. but specifically, again, it said his majesty will continue to undertake state business and official paperwork. official paperwork is very easy to understand. what is included under that heading of state business? is it the regular meetings with the prime minister? is it other sorts of things? what constitutes state business? >> exactly what you said. that's the first thing. it is the regular meeting with the prime minister. it's things like investitures, bestowing knighthoods on people, awarding medals. i think we'll see him fulfilling those duties -- i'm speculating here because i'm trying to read between the lines. i think we'll see him fulfilling those duties that he can carry out within the confines of buckingham palace which is the kind of ceremonial center for this kind of thing.

what he won't be doing is traveling, either here or abroad. but he will continue to do that. i think he'll retain contact with those in politics that he sees on a regular basis. i suspect, also, as i say, that there will be some ceremonial duties within buckingham palace that he may very well carry out. i'm not a medical expert. there are obviously questions about the form of treatment he's receiving and how that may affect him -- may affect his appearance, may affect a number of things that might keep him private. without knowing details, it is pretty hard to speculate at what level he may maintain his workload. >> dr. gupta, he makes a very good point. we'll turn to you as the expert. are there forms of treatment, no one knows for sure about how any

individual patient will react to any kind of treatment. there's always a possibility of one thing or another. but having said that, the idea that he is allowed to do this, as we talked about before, and the fact that what is included under that heading of state business, that it might include continuing to meet with people, continuing to do ceremonies. just not him traveling and going out into a public help would seem to me to be a positive sign. >> absolutely, chris. again, this speaks to what we were talking about earlier which is performance status, the term we used to say, is somebody able to withstand the rigors and side effects from chemotherapy. common things being common, amongst men his age, we expect -- you look at the list. it's either prostate cancer which appears to be ruled out. it could be some form of abdominal, colorectal cancer, skin cancer, testicular cancer

as the most common. all those require some kind of iv chemotherapy that tend to be, and this is medical jargon, site toe toxic. what does that mean? it's toxic to the cells lining our skin, make up our hair. sometimes people do lose their hair. they might be not wanting to eat as much so they'll lose some weight. if there is that component or that worry about public appearance while he's undergoing this treatment, or we know patients across the spectrum when diagnosed with one of these common cancers, tend to have those side effects. perhaps that might be at play here. certainly the fact that, if you look at the list of what's most likely, especially in the work-up of initially benign prostatic hyper drooet trophy, that likely would have picked up

one of these common cancers. all of them require some form of iv chemotherapy to begin with. >> dr. vin gupta, suzannah lipscomb, molly hunter, thank you for being with us. we don't know what form but king charles has been diagnosed with cancer. we'll keep you posted as more information becomes available. up next, deadly storms along the california coast, raging floodwaters swallowing cars, trees toppling. people trapped with more record rain to come. ith remo record rain to come bles to my wash. now i'll be smelling fresh all day long. [sniff] still fresh. ♪♪ get 6x longer-lasting freshness, plus odor protection. try for under $5!

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in california a monstrous catastrophic form is hitting its peak today. it's already caused life-threatening flooding, destructive mudslides and killed power to more than a million households. right now 48,000 people still don't have electricity. broken, dangerous power lines are down across the state and so are massive trees. they're careening into houses, cars, even people. "the l.a. times" reports high winds downed at least 254 trees in just the last day in los angeles. this morning police say falling trees killed two people in their own homes, one in santa cruz, one near sacramento. with record flash floods forcing evacuations in multiple counties, the national weather service is sending out a warning punctuated with bright red

exclamation points. extremely dangerous situation unfolding. avoid travel if at all possible. in the span of 24 hours, california was inundated by more rain than it usually gets in the entire month of february, shattering a daily record set nearly a century ago in 1927, turning roads into rivers and stranding people in their homes and cars. nbc's elwyn lopez is in ventura, california, and nbc meteorologist bill karins is with me. elwyn, ventura county saw evacuation warning, now adding concerns over the dangers of downed power lines. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: chris, californians are waking up to something they're not used to seeing. about half a million people without power. thankfully in ventura county, we or not seeing white spread outages. officials asked about 400 people to evacuate, about 100 mandatory, the other voluntary.

they said if you think things are getting rough, get out of the way before we even ask you to evacuate. this is what we're seeing here. this was all sand up until the beach. if you can see the waves, we saw 7-11 foot waves crashing in. all this debris, bamboo, huge tree logs. pits and pieces of shoes and board games. all of this is what californians here in ventura are waking up to. we saw a lot of people coming behind us that couldn't believe what they were seeing. the ventura pier was closed last time we had dangerous weather, and now damaged again. as you mentioned, at least two deaths reported in the northern part of the state. those fallingment one person, one man was trying to get up on a ladder to take a redwood down and that redwood collapsed on to him. we know this is not over yet. we're seeing a break in the rain

right now, but we are not out of the woods quite yet. we are expecting more rain to come in tonight, and into tomorrow, that will push to arizona. we're not going to see sunshine here until thursday. chris. >> so today is another day with a high risk of flooding. how long is this going to go on? >> the danger will continue today, tonight, periods of tomorrow. we're through the worst part. we hit 150 miles per hour winds in the mountain peaks of california. that's insane stuff. doesn't happen that often and the rainfall totals, it hasn't just been in the mountains. los angeles at the airport, over 3 inches, santa monica, over 5 inches of rain. this is the lower elevations and in downtown l.a., at the usc campus, they keep a range gauge. over 6 inches of rain. these records go back to the late 1800s. the fifth highest, two-day rain total in 147 years. this is something a lot of people in l.a. have never seen or very rarely seen.

sunday was the wettest day they've had, about 4.80. the tenth wettest day ever in downtown l.a. history. and we're not done. now it's not the steady rain. now it's kind of like scattered downpour, dries out. downpour, dries out. that's what we're seeing right now. you see one downpour here, another one off the coast, and this is what's going to continue, and when they do, we'll get isolated flash flooding like we have right here. this is from santa monica, this is the santa monica mountains, hollywood hills, and the flash flood warning goes until 3:00. when will the mess end? 8:00 p.m. this evening, yellows downpours, over l.a., 8:00 a.m. tomorrow and as we go through tuesday afternoon, still occasional showers. the worst is over, the big rivers have crested and los angeles, down the oceanside, san diego, a possibility of 3 to 4 inches and the snow level is dropping. mountains in the west, it's going to be crazy. we're going to get up to 5 feet

possible in the central sierra. 1 to 3 feet in utah. northern arizona, 1 to 2 feet here also. this is going to continue to be a developing story during the day today. you know, going into the storm, we knew it was life threatening. we have some fatalities, and we're hoping to avoid more. >> thank you both very much. the agony of defeat is hanging over the joy of victory over capitol hill where we're finally getting a look at the hard won bipartisan border deal, a $118 billion package that provides critical aid to ukraine and israel but it's the $20 billion for immigration enforcement at the heart of a bitter fight after months of negotiations. house republican leaders are a hard no. speaker johnson calls it dead on arrival, and majority leader scalise says it will not receive a vote in the house. but president biden responded with a challenge writing, house republicans have to decide, do they want to solve the problem or do they want to keep playing politics with the border.

nbc's julie tsirkin is reporting from capitol hill for us. we heard it, the house leaders are saying no way, so what's the strategy from supporters, including getting it out of the senate. >> well, senators are hoping that politics doesn't get above policy here, but unfortunately it looks like that is exactly what is happening. when we went into these negotiations, leadership had a goal in mind, right? they had about 35 democrats they wanted to support this bill, about 25 of the republican conference to support the bill on the other end. we keep seeing noes from senate republicans saying this doesn't go far enough. continue to go move the goal post on what they're looking for here. nonetheless, chuck schumer plans to kick off the vote when the senate comes back in. you'll hear from senator chris murphy here too. >> everyone is talking to each other. once they look at the bill, when langford shows some of the republicans the bill, they finally saw what was in it, and say, oh, this is a real compromise.

this isn't a sellout one way or the other. >> i just believe there are enough republicans in the senate who are sincere about solving the problem, as opposed to those who want chaos at the border. >> and certainly senator langford said, listen, we're willing to brief whoever wants to look at it. republicans need three weeks to read t on the other hand, you have them criticizing the bill, saying it's dead on arrival, within minutes of the bill text coming out. there is a joint statement that came out from the four house republican leaders, speaker johnson and his leadership team. they said in part, if this wasn't clear enough, any conversation of the senate bill in its current form is a waste of time. it's dead on arrival in the house, we encourage the u.s. senate to reject it, and they pushed hr 2, the partisan republican bill which is a nonstarter for democrats in the senate or for president biden which we know that's not going to happen. you had democrats who aren't happy about this bill either. you have the congressional hispanic conference, senators as

a part of that, senator menendez says he's a hard no on the bill. posted on x saying accepting this deal as written would be an outright betrayal to the communities we have sworn an oath to protect and represent. remember, one thing missing from this bill, chris, a pathway for legal citizenship, or legalization for undocumented dreamers. that was a red line for democrats not too long ago. now they make concessions without that in there. we'll see if it goes far enough, but apparently not. >> julie tsirkin, thank you. much more on the breaking news out of buckingham palace, the king of island, charles iii has been diagnosed with cancer. stay close, more "chris jansing reports" right after this. ney... honey... dayquil severe honey. powerful cold and flu symptom relief with a honey-licious taste. dayquil honey, the honey-licious, daytime, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever, power through your day, medicine. ♪♪ with fastsigns, signage that gets you noticed

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