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throughout the world are looking for, just to show that the iranians are the ones behind all this, but so far, there has been one big thing absent from the u.s. retaliation, they haven't been striking iranian ships or the iranian mainland. ana? >> matt bradley, thank you for those updates. we appreciate you. that does it for us today, see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place, for special coverage alongside my friends andrea mitchell and jose diaz-balart as we bring you the supreme court's oral arguments over former president trump's colorado ballot case. we'll have it live in full here on msnbc. for now, i'm ana cabrera, reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. right now high drama on capitol hill, the bipartisan border bill hangs in the balance. republicans say it is dead. we'll tell you what senate majority leader chuck schumer is expected to do next. a stunning surprise in the
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house. as republicans fail to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. on the campaign trail, presidential hopeful nikki haley vows to press on despite a stinging loss in nevada. more voters choosing not to pick a candidate than back her. plus, a supreme court showdown in less than 24 hours over former president donald trump's ballot battle in colorado. and a historic verdict out of michigan, for the first time a parent is convicted of involuntary manslaughter in her child's school shooting. we'll talk to a father whose son was killed in that tragedy about what the decision means to him. and we begin this morning with the chaos that has erupted on capitol hill over efforts to deal with the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. this afternoon, the senate will take a series of procedural votes related to the bipartisan border bill and funding for
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ukraine, israel and other national security priorities. today's votes followed a stunning night for house republicans. their efforts to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas when three republicans joined with democrats to defeat the resolution. al green who is recovering from surgery, made a surprise appearance to cast his vote against impeaching mayorkas. but republicans say their efforts are far from over. >> hakeem jeffries was the consummate professional. when i called him, his first concern was my health. and he said to me, al, your health comes first. i called him, quite frankly, to let him know that i was about to uber over to the capitol. and that was going to be my mode of transportation. and he said, well, al, if you're going to come, we can get transportation for you. >> shortly after the mayorkas impeachment vote, republicans
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suffered another defeat, when a bill to provide aid to israel failed to get the votes needed to pass. with us now to talk more about this, nbc news capitol hill correspondent julie tsirkin, chris shomar, president and ceo of global refuge which helps refugees and immigrants adjust to life in the united states, and former florida congressman carlos curbelo, msnbc political analyst. julie, a lot of drama on the house floor last night. >> reporter: yeah, certainly was, jose. this was not a night that house republicans planned for or expected, especially when congressman al green showed up in his hospital garb to cast that vote, effectively tieing the process. that vote was left open for quite a while. republican leadership was working those three holdouts including congressman mike gallagher of wisconsin who voted against this impeachment effort, trying to get them to flip to absolutely no avail, but, jose, it does not mean this process is over. a spokesperson for speaker johnson had said when they have
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the votes, they intend to bring this bill back up on the floor to try and impeach the secretary. once again on those two articles they have laid out. carlos jimenez, a congressman from florida, republican who voted for this, had this to say. watch. >> this is serious business. we don't take any pride or joy in any of this. i certainly don't. i voted my conscience. and so did everybody else in there. and so, this isn't over yet. we'll wait until the majority -- >> reporter: meanwhile, we have leader schumer, the democrat, of course, the top democrat in the senate, who is actually just started speaking to reporters in a last minute gag billion what the heck is going to happen on the floor later today. he intends to bring up the clean national supplemental security bill without the border security policy that republicans are expected to block in this afternoon. and he's talking all about that with reporters right now and including his strategy on moving forward, jose. we'll bring you the latest in a couple of minutes. >> and i thank you, julie.
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let's listen in to senate majority leader chuck schumer who is speaking right now on capitol hill. >> -- fair and open amendment process. under my leadership we have done far more amendments than when mcconnell was majority leader and we will have a fair and open process on amendments, okay? >> -- five months ago trying to pass this bill without -- any insurances the speaker will bring this bill up? >> the bottom line is the majority of republicans in the house said they want to do ukraine, they want to do israel, and we hope that if we pass it in the senate, that the house would then rise to the occasion. the house is in chaos. it doesn't behoove the speaker well to block everything because 30 hard right wing people just want chaos like donald trump does. >> well, there was senate majority leader chuck schume, on what is going to happen in the senate. i want to bring in carlos. how would you describe what happened yesterday in the house?
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punch bowl news called it one of the most embarrassing days in recent house republican history. what is going on? >> the big news inside the house yesterday is that republicans are growing increasingly frustrated with speaker johnson. speaker johnson has been given a pass. he was criticized for using some of the same tactics coming together with democrats that former speaker mccarthy used, and ultimately got ousted for. members have been patient, but now they have lost two high profile votes on the house floor. by the way, while speaker johnson was presiding. >> how does that happen? don't they, like -- >> it is very rare in the house. the house tends to be a lot more scripted than the senate. the senate there is a lot more free form because the rules are different. the house, the majority party usually controls everything. so the speaker was presiding, apparently he knew that they were going to lose those votes and decided to proceed anyway. so a lot of house republicans
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are scratching their heads here and saying what is going on? why are we being led down this path? >> is it that the republicans are being led down that path by the speaker or the speaker being led down a path of chaos and no productivity by the house members? >> well, and, of course, there is also the invisible hand or not so invisible hand of former president donald trump, jose, which we know is having an influence. perhaps this is a case where the former president was pressuring speaker johnson to bring up these votes, believing that at the end and sometimes this happens you can actually switch votes, convince members on the floor, but they weren't able to do this and members like mike gallagher had told them for over a month that he was going to vote no on this. >> so, julie, what can we expect to see in the senate today? >> reporter: yeah, that's a great question. i would like to point to my colleague frank thorp who asked
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that question of leader schumer, saying do you have any assurances that house speaker mike johnson will put this clean bill without the border policies on the floor? schumer's answer, we heard it, johnson said he wants aid to israel and ukraine, let's see what happens there. senate republicans don't know how they're going to proceed on this bill. they don't know what the right move is here because yesterday i was in a press conference with conservative senate republicans, ted cruz, rick scott, mike lee, all these voices that have railed against aid to ukraine that have insisted border security measures be negotiated by the senate. now they're saying, they're messaging this completely differently and don't know what to do when schumer puts this clean bill on the floor, how to wiggle out of this. on one hand they support aid to israel. some say ukraine should receive that lethal military assistance, but it is a live ball and open question how this all ends. i want to add one quick point to what you just asked carlos
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curbelo, former congressman there, sources close to johnson have told me that the speaker does listen to his committee chairs, he does listen to the direction of his conference and certainly somebody who is very new to the leadership world does have to do that, especially with the threat of a motion to vacate always hanging in the corner. >> yeah, and so, chris, i want to focus about this border bill. that group of bipartisan group of senators insists this bill is a very important step toward dealing with the crisis at the border. you've read the bill. what is your take on it? >> from a political perspective alone, you know, we have seen republicans spend several months demanding a gift horse and now falling over themselves to kick it in the mouth. they aren't going to get any more restrictions or enforcement resources from a potential democratic senate minority without making much greater concessions. so, it is significant to see,
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you know, that the other byproduct of this debacle is democrats can say they have a coherent vision on immigration, but i think a broader point is immigration cannot be a political cudgel. we need political leaders who are not prioritizing electioneering over solving a problem. and this, you know, do we agree with everything inability? no. but it is a compromise and that means addressing border security with our humanitarian values and economic needs. >> yeah, i mean, yesterday, on this program, one of the authorize of the bill, senator chris murphy, recognized there is nothing in the bill for dreamers or the millions of undocumented immigrants who have lived in the u.s. for decades, participating in our economy. and the millions who have arrived in recent years. it also changes asylum procedures. how do you see this affecting america's asylum policies? >> yeah, that's deeply troubling. on dreamers, the fact that there is nothing is indicative of how much the political landscape has
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shifted and not for the better. the first major push for a sweeping overall was in 2013 and i think it is especially troubling for dec daca recipients. for asylum seekers, it is important to understand that what restrictions are recommended have not been effective in the past, so the new emergency authority is like the pandemic era title 42 policy. so what that means is that vulnerable individuals and families exercising a legal right to seek asylum will be sent back to dangerous circumstances. and title 42 didn't actually deter crossings. the data shows the opposite. both encounters and those who avoided apprehension increased when it was in place. >> carlos, in my conversation with senator murphy, here yesterday, he had this to say about republicans when talking about the border bill. take a listen. >> yes, there have always been demagogues in the republican
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party. there have always been xenophobes. there has always been a big chunk of the republican party that saw immigration as a strength. that part of the republican party died this week. died this week. all the republican party is a group of nativists who want to shut down america's history and tradition of immigration. >> what is your reaction to what the senator said? >> well, jose, that's not all republicans, but certainly there is a segment of republicans that refuse to embrace the solutions for immigration reform. they prefer the politics of immigration reform. look, it has worked out politically in some instances. in this case, it is going to backfire. there is no question that the biden administration has really struggled at the southwest border. look at the latest nbc news poll, most americans disapprove of the president's handling of immigration. they had to own all of that for these three plus years of his presidency. now, if republicans refuse to
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embrace this conservative solution, this is a conservative bill, it reforms asylum law, the greatest magnet for illegal immigration in our country, if they refuse to support it, they are going to have to own part of the failure associated with the southwest border. they're worried about not wanting to share success with the president, if they pass this bill, and instead they're going to be sharing the failures, so i think politically it has the potential of backfiring against republicans. >> julie tsirkin, former congressman carlos curbelo and chris omara, thank you for being with us this morning. turning to nevada, where the already unusual elections got more unusual. nikki haley who faced no other major candidate on the primary ballot, lost to the option none of the candidates. lost to that. joining us now is steve kornacki. how in the world in this new
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world of nevada politics did this happen? >> yeah, it is a complicated drama, but the bottom line is this. the state of nevada, its legislature and democratic governor a few years ago decided they were going to institute a state-run presidential primary for each party. democrats and for republicans. but, of course, the rules for conventions and for selecting presidential candidates, republicans say the state parties can set their own rules for how they're going to give out delegates. are they going to use a primary, are they going to use a caucus, the republican party in nevada said there is a primary, the state is running it, we want nothing to do with it. we'll have our own caucus. that caucus is going to be tomorrow. and the state republican parties said the delegates will be given out through the caucus and the candidates have a choice. they can run in the primary and not the caucus, or the caucus and not the primary. what happened was republicans in nevada got a ballot that looked like this. you see nikki haley's name was on it, you see some minor candidates on it, this ballot was printed before mike pence
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dropped out, before tim scott dropped out, so they were still on it. but you don't see donald trump's name here because trump is running in the caucuses where the delegates are given out tomorrow. and then there is this. nevada for 50 years has by state law put none these candidates an as option on their ballot. typically in an election, it is going to get a couple percentage points, there are five instances before last night where this had actually won in a race, it had been a while, but as you say that is exactly what happened last night when the votes were counted up in nevada by a better than two to one margin, none of these candidates finishes first in the nevada republican primary. nikki haley very distant second. couple things to say about this, clearly none of these candidates was an option that trump supporters took advantage of. the vast majority of these none of these candidates votes are probably, we can assume, folks who want donald trump to be the republican nominee. and what is interesting about nevada, as opposed to new
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hampshire, and as opposed to iowa is this is a closed primary. no independents, no democrats, registered republicans only. we have seen this story now, how independents and democrats are sort of the backbone of haley's chances, and pure registered republicans we have seen in polling and primary results favoring trump strongly. and here in a closed republicans only primary, haley, without trump's name on the ballot, loses to the none option by better than two to one. that is a tough reality for her. trump isn't on the ballot and she loses and it is a closed primary. so it really reinforces what we have been seeing that when you're just talking about republican voters, she's really -- she's really getting clobbered with republican voters. independents and democrats that keep her in it. >> yeah, and, steve, if we go back to new hampshire and iowa, what percentage of the republican vote did she get
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there, similar, right? >> i think in new hampshire she lost by 50 points among republican voters. the electorate in new hampshire, the republican primary electorate was more than 40% nonrepublican, mostly independents, a few folks who identify as democrats. if you went to iowa, about 16% independent in that electorate. some folks who identified as democrats as well. but, again, here, just republicans, and this is what we saw in new hampshire with the republican segment of the electorate and what we see in polls. republicans want donald trump and don't want nikki haley and that's what this result reinforces. >> steve kornacki, thank you so very much. great seeing you. >> you got it. >> right now we're following breaking news. search and rescue crews are looking for a missing military helicopter carrying five marines on board. what we know so far. plus, why the supreme court may look to the civil war in deciding whether donald trump should be on the primary ballot
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in colorado. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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18 past the hour. former president donald trump will be at the center of the landmark case of the supreme court tomorrow. the justices are set to hear oral arguments about whether colorado can keep trump off its primary ballot, citing the civil war era insurrection clause. several states have already heard challenges to keep trump off their election ballots this year. the arguments will take place 48 hours after another majo decision came down concerning the former president. the d.c. appeals court ruled trump is not immune from federal prosecution in the 2020 election interference case. joining us now, nbc's garrett haake, who covers the trump campaign and catherine christian, former manhattan assistant district attorney and nbc news legal analyst.
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any response from the trump campaign ahead of tomorrow's arguments? >> well, donald trump's been arguing on the stump and on social media for air while now that the idea he could be kicked off the ballot in colorado or anywhere else for insurrection, something he's not been convicted of or charged with in any state, is antidemocratic, small d democratic, he's a front running candidate of the republican party and it should be voters who decide whether he's got a chance to return to the oval office. they also have been pointing out the discrepancy between states who handled this question very differently. some states have denied court cases like this, some state election boards like illinois, just last week, ruled they don't have authority to make this kind of decision to keep donald trump off the ballot. so i suspect and i'm not a lawyer that his team will try to make some hay about all of these points tomorrow before the supreme court, which they hope will be a friendly audience for him given the conservative leaning nature of this court, jose. >> and tomorrow is also the
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nevada caucus, have we heard whether trump will be going one place or the other? >> we expect to see him in nevada and not in washington, d.c. as of now. with everything trump related, that's always subject to change. his campaign has taken a posture that nevada is the political imperative of the moment, that's where the delegates will be, and there is not enough upside to bring him here to washington, d.c. for supreme court hearing where he's going to sit inside and not be seen. no cameras in federal court. >> tomorrow's case centers around section 3 of the 14th amendment, which says in part, quote, i love to just read it out, no person shall hold any office who having previously taken an oath as an officer of the united states to support the constitution of the united states shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. what do you expect the questions to be surrounding this clause tomorrow? >> that's how we'll know whether or not the supreme court will
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focus in on whether or not they're going to milwaukee a make a decision on whether or not donald trump caused an insurrection. i think they'll say he should be on the ballot. they'll take an off ramp and say congress should be the one to enact legislation. that way they don't have to touch whether he committed insurrection or not. the questions they ask tomorrow will inform us what issues they are honing in on. we'll get a sense of that. now, some justices don't ask questions so you won't know. but you'll get a sense from where they're at, each of the justices who do ask questions, what they think are the most important issues in order to solve this. >> and, garrett, let's turn to the d.c. appeals court ruling yesterday. what is the latest from trump world there? >> we know that trump plans to appeal that ruling to the supreme court. the deadline for him to do so is monday. given the desire to delay proceedings in that case as much
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as possible, i would be shocked if we see that appeal before the monday deadline. trump and his campaign have taken the pretty blistering response toward this appeals court hearing and ruling and he's tried to make it about something bigger than himself, arguing on truth social that this ruling could be what he calls a nation destroying ruling and that by not having some form of presidential immunity for actions taken by a former president, you'll see every former president essentially face indictment by a political opponent in the future. now, that's belied by 200 plus years of american history, but that's the argument that donald trump is making politically and we'll see if it ends up being the argument his legal team makes behind closed doors of the supreme court if and when they get the chance. >> right, i mean, trump, catherine, very well may go to the supreme court, the justices could decide against taking the case. here's what former acting solicitor general neil katyal had to say. >> you need four votes out of nine to grant the case, you need
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five to actually stay a decision and stop the trial. i don't see four or five votes for either of those propositions. >> what do you make of that? >> i said this yesterday, i'm going to go out on a limb with neil, the supreme court may not take this case. and if they don't agree to take this case, then the trial is a go. now, if they do, you know, they will decide whether or not this case will be tried before the election, if at all, because if they don't expedite briefing and oral argument in the decision, it is just not going to happen, meaning the trial won't happen because if they decide to take the case, everything is staid on the trial level. but if they don't, this case will be tried and it could be tried in may or june. march 4th is gone. forget about the march 4th date. i tend to agree with neil because this was a very detailed thorough decision, it was unanimous, and you can't state
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enough how important that was, meaning all three judges were on the same page, there was only one opinion, it was very well written, people were concerned he was taking too long, it was worth the wait because it was very detailed and thorough and knocked down professionally every one of trump's lawyers arguments about immunity, that he should have absolute immunity when he is now citizen trump, what they call him, because he's not president, he's a former president, and he should be treated like all other criminal defendants. >> garrett haake and catherine christian, thank you so very much. appreciate it. join us for our special coverage of the supreme court oral arguments, ana cabrera, andrea mitchell and i will host special coverage of the case bringing you the court's live audio, completely live in full tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. next, we're following breaking news, the search for a missing helicopter with five marines on board. we'll talk to one of the people in charge of the search and
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30 past the hour. we're keeping our eyes on capitol hill and there you see the live shot as we expect the house speaker mike johnson to any minute now come out and
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speak to the press. we'll, of course, keep you updated on that situation as soon as he comes out to speak, we will go to him. i want to talk specifically now about what is happening in california, breaking news out of that state, where a search is under way for a missing military helicopter that was carrying five marines. joining us now nbc's dan de luce so what happened? >> there was a helicopter that took off from the marine base near las vegas, and it was heading towards the miramar marine base north of san diego, so flying over some very remote locations in southern california mountains and desert, and, of course, this was happening during a severe storm that we have been hearing all about, heavy, heavy rain. and the -- it went missing. so the last time there were
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coordinates known was after 11:00 p.m. and then nothing more was heard and a search was then started, but initially the search was hampered by darkness and this weather and now the sun is up and a full blown effort now is under way to try to find this helicopter and the five-person crew on that helicopter. >> so, captain kornet what is the latest on the search on the ground there? >> we're working here with our cooperators with the san diego sheriff's office, the u.s. border patrol. we have civil air patrol out as well. and we're on the ground with our boots in the snow here searching for these victims of this crash or -- sorry, this missing helicopter. and we're working in cold rugged terrain and trying to do our best right now. >> yeah, what is the terrain like and what are the weather conditions like? >> we're in the mount laguna
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area. it is rugged right now. if i turn my camera around, you can see we're getting heavy snow in san diego county, which is known for this location. currently we're at 3,000 feet elevation, the last known location of this helicopter is up at 5300 feet elevation. last night we were trying to insert that we were hampered by heavy snow. >> i thank you very much. i want to go right back to capitol hill, mike johnson is speaking. let's go to that right now. >> also terrible policy and terrible politics. the president of the united states -- the president of the united states threatened to veto on the israel funding package. chuck schumer then said he would put a blockade up in the senate. he had 166 house democrats who followed leader hakeem jeffries. >> ukraine and israel, you just pushed for israel. you were skeptical of aid for ukraine here, does that put you
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in a bind? >> look, we'll see what the senate does. we're allowing the process to play out and we'll handle it as it is sent over. i made very clear that you have to address these issues on their own merits. and israel desperately needs the assistance, everyone knows that, things have changed pretty dramatically since we passed the first israel package in the house three months ago. everyone knows the tensions have escalated and we need to support it there. so, we'll address that. we'll see what the senate does. we spent a lot of time on the house side waiting the senate's action and it is frustrating sometimes, but that's the way the process plays out. >> what happened yesterday with the vote on secretary mayorkas? why bring that to the floor if you didn't have the votes and will you hold another vote to impeach him? >> on impeachment last night, democracy is messy. we live in a time of divided government. we have a razor thin margin here and every vote counts. sometimes when you're counting votes and people show up when they're not expected to be in the building, it changes the equation, but we have a duty and responsibility to take care of
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this issue. we have to hold the secretary of the department of homeland security accountable. mayorkas needs to be held accountable. the biden administration needs to be held accountable and we'll pass the articles of impeachment, we'll do it on the next round. >> what would you say to americans concerned that congress isn't able to do basic functions? >> well, it is simply not true. we're governing here, sometimes it is messy. the framers anticipated that you would have a system where people with very different philosophical viewpoints from different parts of the country and different constituencies have different ideas on how to resolve their problems. what they also anticipated is we would be able to get in a room and arm wrestle and come to consensus and move the ball forward for most people. that's what you're seeing here. you're seeing the messy sausage-making of democracy play out. the job will be done at the end of the day. >> some of your critics will say this shows your inexperience and congressman massey says getting rid of kevin mccarthy was an
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unmitigated disaster for your party. what do you say to that? >> it was a mess what happened here. but we're cleaning it up and massey is one of my dear friends and colleagues and i don't think that this is a reflection on the leader, it is a reflection on the body itself and the place where we have come in this country. look, the nation is divided. we lament that. the differences, the chasm between the two parties right now is wider than it has ever been. and there are lots of emotions and we live in the age of social media and 24 hour news cycle. there are previous congresses where this -- a gaggle like this would not have been possible. so, we're in a different time. but we need to do in a time like this, a time of great challenge, is lead on principle. and that's what we're doing. again, the process is messy sometimes. the job will be done. and we're going to govern this country, the greatest country in the entire world, the entire world is counting on us. we'll get through it. everybody take a deep breath. it is a long game. we'll get the job done.
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41 past the hour. this morning, we're hearing from the jury foreperson after the historic verdict in michigan, the jury found jennifer crumbley, the mother of a school shoot, guilty on all four counts of involuntary manslaughter. one for each of the victims. the foreperson spoke exclusively to savannah guthrie saying one piece of evidence was key to her decision. >> i just feel like jennifer didn't separate her son from the gun enough to save those lives that day. >> nbc's adrienne broaddus joins us from the courthouse in pontiac, michigan. good morning. what happens next there? >> reporter: jose, what is next is the trial for the shooter's father, james crumbley.
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it is scheduled to start march 5th. already before that guilty verdict was delivered, attorneys representing james crumbley filed a motion to block some evidence in his trial, specifically his attorneys are asking for the judge to deny showing surveillance video from the shooting, and photos of the aftermath. meanwhile, jennifer crumbley will be sentenced in april. the juror, the woman who led members of this jury in deliberating said something that came up repeatedly was what jennifer crumbley said on the stand, that she would not do anything differently. and that is something that has weighed heavy on the heart of the father of the youngest victim killed. listen to what he had to say. >> when she testified and said they lost everything, and that she wouldn't do anything differently, what went through your mind? >> the first part of they have lost everything, no, that answer is a simple no, they haven't.
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the answer about not changing anything was just unbelievable. it could have been so many different answers to that question. >> and that was the father of hana st. juliana. he said yesterday was a step in the right direction, but not a day of big celebration because that pain of losing his daughter still remains. jose? >> absolutely. adrienne broaddus, thank you so very much. i want to say the names of the four lives lost on november 30th, 2021. show their pictures. they were lost lives, oxford high school, because it is important that we never forget them, that we remember them. 14-year-old hana st. juliana, 16-year-old tate myre, 17-year-old madisyn baldwin, and 17-year-old justin shilling. joining us this morning is the
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father of justin, craig shilling. craig, thank you, thank you so much for being with us this morning. i just want to start by asking how are you and your family doing today? >> i tell you what, i'm pretty tired today. i was up pretty late last night. and just kind of taking it all in. a deep breath for sure. so, you know, that's where i'm at today. just kind of -- just kind of recouping and just going over everything in my mind again and just trying to regain my composure and get back to normalcy. >> yeah. did this verdict in any way help? >> i mean, it does help a little bit. it gives us some clarity, it
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gives us, you know -- it gives us the understanding that the people have spoken and they have said -- they have come out and said that, you know, this is not going to happen anymore. we have to be responsible and we have to take care of our children. you know, mental health is a big thing nowadays and it is important to maintain that direction and keep that interaction and keep on going with it. it is a big thing nowadays, and it has to be addressed. >> yeah, you know, craig, wacra thinking about this and when you read up on what your son, what justin, how he acted, right, you were talking about, you know, we have to protect our children, what an extraordinary young man. he lost his life protecting a classmate. tell me about him.
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>> well, like you said, he's a pretty extraordinary individual. not a day goes by that i don't think about him, and recall his big heart, his generosity, his kindness for others, his hard working ethics. he had so much going for him, and that's still heart breaking. every day is a struggle. >> yeah, and, you know, the fact that he has such clarity of mind and, you know, when he was in those -- in the stall of the bathroom with his -- the other student, how he said, you know, go here, put your feet up so that, you know, you're not spotted by the shooter, what an
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extraordinary young man indeed. your other son, clay, was in school, in that same school, that same day. how is he able to do it and how is he doing? >> he struggles. he's pulled himself out of the in person school and is at a virtual academy. it is a different dynamic for him. it is still a struggle, though. there is a lot of, you know, memory there, a lot of action. everything around him, all of the support, you know, it is a lot different. something like this changes your life forever. and, you know, to see that happen in front of you and how it unfolds and try to be there, you know, it's really tough. it's not anything that, you know, you plan on, you don't have answers for the questions,
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and it is tough. it really is. it is a struggle. but we're here for each other and we try every day, we work for what's right and we push for justice and accountability. >> and what does accountability look like to you and is there anything you think, craig, that we can do to help you? >> well, i mean, accountability is, you know, holding all the parties involved responsible at the level that they were -- that we have a lot going on with that. we have calls for action, with the government, and, you know, that's kind of -- what can we
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do, as a society, it is important for us all to address this on a personal level, and just recognize the responsibilities that we enter when we enter parenthood and in general maybe we don't have kids, but we still have a responsibility to society to influence the youth of our nation in a positive way. and, you know, that's what i would ask of everybody, just step up and, you know, say the things that need to be said thi need to be said and act the way you need to act in order to have that positive influence. it's very important. kids are so impressionable at that young age. they remember things. they see it. they see it, they remember it, and they act it out and they do it. we don't necessarily want to have them acting out in the
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54 past the hour. to the 2024 election and how housing is a voting issue for many americans. reno, nevada, is one of the cities across the country where homes are becoming more expensive. steve patterson joins us from reno. good morning. what have you been hearing from voters there? >> reporter: jose, this area is a boom town. there's no doubt about it. which makes housing the biggest issue facing voters. it's so big that it's directly influencing people to get out and vote. if you don't believe me, we met one young couple that couldn't give a lick about politics and still it started directly impacting their daily lives. here is how it matters, take a look. the biggest little city in the world is going through some growing pains, thanks to new
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jobs and low taxes, it's booming. which makes being a young couple trying to put down roots tougher than ever. >> we don't have as much as somebody who will put $550,000 down or paying cash. we don't have that. >> reporter: justin and jessica want to settle down and start a family in the place they grew up. that place has changed. >> my parents, the house we look at now would be $400,000, $500,000. when they got it, it was $180. >> reporter: tesla and apple are attracting workers. california is the number one state exporting. they are flush with cash and moving the market. in 2024, the median home price was $220,000. now nearly $600,000. >> it's very challenging to manage that growth. supply and demand, it's a very real thing. >> reporter: the mayor suffering
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from success isn't a humble brag, it's a serious issue, and one she expects will have a huge impact at the ballot box. >> it resonates with certain voters. our younger voters, because they are really getting squeezed out of the market. they want to see which candidates are talking about it and who has the solutions. it absolutely plays a part at the ballot box. >> reporter: it's battleground's bellwether, a true purple population, in a state with more non-partisans than democrats or republicans. unaffiliated voters hold a vast amount of power. >> the only way republicans can win an election and increasingly the democrats is by pulling non-partisan support. it has become the power broker of the state. >> reporter: justin and jessica have no choice but to keep looking. >> 15 to 20 places. >> a couple months. >> reporter: those two places
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that you lost you said they -- >> we got crushed. >> reporter: it's the housing disappointment that is sending jess and countless others back to the voting booth. >> i was a non-voter for a long time. because i see the prices going up and because of that, it has influenced me to vote. yeah. >> reporter: the pain has made you political? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: one proposed solution is to buy land from the federal government. nevada is about 80% made up of federal lands. it's the highest percentage out of any state in the country. there are bills in the house and senate from republicans and democrats. bipartisan support. the question is, will it work? it's another issue that's up to voters here this election cycle. >> steve patterson in reno, thank you very much. turning to reporting about the investigation into classified documents found in president biden's home and former office. joining us now, ken dilanian.
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good morning. what do we know? >> good morning. the special counsel regulations say they are supposed to send the attorney general a decision on to charge or not to charge at the conclusion of his or her work. the report has been completed and slated for public release indicates there's no charges. it means the investigation is over and the doj will make public some of what he found. the justice department takes the position that a sitting president can't be charged criminally. that's a wild card here. we don't know what was concluded about mr. biden's conduct in this matter. the special counsel mueller took the position that his report couldn't say whether he concluded trump committed a crime. aides can be charged and we are confident that's not happening. as for what could be in the report, white house officials say it could say they were sloppy. that does seem like a reasonable
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possibility. there's no good explanation for how classified documents ended up in his home and office. we will have to see exactly what the special counsel concluded. >> ken dilanian, thank you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. thank you for the privilege of your time. up next, andrea mitchell will speak to nancy pelosi about the drama on capitol hill. that starts right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," chaos on capitol hill. big defeats for the new house speaker mike johnson as he loses his push to impeach homeland security secretary mayorkas and fails to pass aid for israel. in the next few hours, senate democrats will make a last-dit

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