it's good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports."

at this hour, breaking news, the senate is now voting on a doomed border deal. can critical aid for ukraine and israel, though, still be saved? democrats will make a move to find out. a stinging defeat for nikki haley in nevada, trump wasn't on the ballot, but she still lost by double digits to an option labeled none of these candidates. fani willis's fight, the new support for the fulton county d.a. as trump tries to have her disqualified from his georgia election case. and a big map costs how much? the growing backlash as fast food prices take a bigger bite out of your wallet. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we want to begin with all of the dysfunction on capitol hill. nbc's ryan nobles is following that. a couple of horrible, terrible votes for the republicans last night. but now another vote. tell us what's happening and how this all fits together? >> reporter: yeah, chris, what

we're expecting is actually a series of votes in the senate right now to try and get something moving in a congress that's been somewhat dysfunctional to start the month of february. what we're going to see play out first in the next couple of minutes, the majority leader chuck schumer is going to speak and then begin the procedural vote on the border provisions, aid to ukraine, israel and the indo-pacific. that measure is expected to fail, which will essentially kill any prospects of a border deal getting done in the near future. then there will then be a second round of voting, a procedural step where they will pull the border package out of the $118 billion supplemental aid package with the hope that that will get the 60 votes necessary to continue the conversation about at least funding these national security priorities, including ukraine, israel and beyond. this has been a very frustrating day for members of congress who

feel disappointed that these bipartisan negotiations that went so long ended up in this fashion. take a listen to what some of the senators told us today. >> you can do a partisan bill in the house, but in the senate, we have to look at each other across the aisle and then figure out a way to be able to solve this. >> i'm trying to see if we can improve the border security bill. i want to work with my democratic colleagues to help ukraine, israel and taiwan, so i'm hoping there can be some breakouts in the next week or two. time will tell. >> reporter: you think house republicans are as interested in bipartisanship at this point? >> what they're going to have to do is show their ability to govern, right? if we can make the bill better, i don't know if it changes any opinions in the house, but i'm trying to make the bill better. i'm trying to make it stronger because every american is affected by this. >> reporter: and that's the real problem that we're dealing with here, chris, is that any package that comes out of the senate is still going to be met with pretty stiff opposition in the

house. and there just isn't a real appetite for bipartisanship right now, especially with republicans in the house who seem to hold firm to their pure belief as to how governing should happen in washington. it doesn't necessarily meet with the reality of the situation that there are slim margins in both chamber, and you need people from both sides of the aisle to get anything passed. there is a desire to try and at least get the supplemental aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan, knocked out in the senate, put it on the doorstep of the house, and see if they'll act on it. it's also very important to point out that at this point, there is no appetite for any sort of border package, despite the fact that both republicans and democrats, most especially republicans have said the crisis at the border is an immediate national emergency, chris. >> so it was interesting to hear what lindsey graham had to say, nancy pelosi, when she talked to our friend and colleague at noon today told andrea mitchell, nancy pelosi told andrea

mitchell she still had some level of hope. is that a level of hope just because they feel so strongly that this is what the american people want, this is what needs to get done or do they know something maybe they don't know that i guess the wind could blow in a different direction, and suddenly with maybe pressure from constituents or something, there is still actually a chance? >> reporter: yeah, you know, chris, having been around this and covered immigration for a long time, not just on capitol hill, but beyond, but then specifically covering this congress, i just do not see frankly any sort of mechanism by which a border package gets passed in this congress. i mean, republicans in particular have made it very clear that they want this to be a campaign issue. and dealing with it now could potentially take it off the table as a campaign issue. john barrasso, the third ranking republican in the senate says he believes this is an issue that should be decided by the voters, and not necessarily something that should be litigated at this

point. i think the hope for a border package seems, i don't want to say misguided but not well placed at this point, just because the positions of these two sides have become hardened to the point where there just doesn't seem to be any movement. now, in terms of the broader supplemental question, the question of ukraine, the question of israel, there is more than a majority to get those two things done. there's certainly enough republicans and democrats that want to see funding for ukraine and funding for israel, the problem is the form and fashion in which that is delivered. and that really kind of fundamentally hinges on house speaker mike johnson. if he puts a ukraine bill on the floor. it's very likely to pass. the question is that hard right flank, the 20 or so freedom caucus who remain opposed to funding under any circumstance, do they threaten him with the potential of removing him from office if he puts it on the floor. that's an open question, a

question he may be forced to face if the senate is able to push the package through over the next couple of days. >> the possibility of here we go again, ryan nobles, thank you for that. let's go to nevada now, where nikki haley got trounced in the primary by the nameless option of none of these candidates. nbc's steve patterson is on the ground in reno. how is the haley campaign responding? >> reporter: you know, chris, i think if you're summing this all up with one word, unfortunately for nikki haley, the word has to be embarrassing and maybe with modifier of historic. you could make the argument that haley wasn't necessarily making a play for nevada. her eyes have clearly been locked on south carolina for some time, but this headline cannot help, and it's not the headline she wanted to wake up to. i think she was hoping that by default she would wake up to winning the primary, and that just simply didn't happen. we wanted to get responses to this top to bottom, starting with the one, of course, you would expect donald trump last

night gloating on his social media platform, truth social, a bad night for nikki haley losing by almost 30 points to none of these candidatings. -- candidates. her response was, whatever, she didn't necessarily make a play in nevada. there was no real ground game. there wasn't a big advertising spend. she had the choice of entering into the primary or tomorrow oos -- or the caucus, and she chose not to do that, for a couple of reasons. one being she might argue that the state gop, arguing that they were looking to preserve election integrity did this because it's easier for trump to win a caucus than it is to win a primary. she responded and we'll show this on screen. donald trump knows when you playpenny slots, the house wins, we didn't bother to play a game rigged for trump, we're full speed ahead in south carolina and beyond. the question is how does this affect the rest of the race?

how does this affect the other states? we don't know how the headline will play out, but certainly, it can't help. >> steve patterson, thank you. lawyers and experts are going to bat for fulton county district attorney fani willis. blayne alexander is following this for us. i understand there's a new motion responding to former president trump trying to kick fani willis off of his election interference case and, in fact, get the charges dismissed all together. tell us what's in this? >> reporter: so, chris, we have actually seen a flurry of filings over the past 48 hours in fulton county. let me start with the former prosecutors and ethics experts. there are 17 people who of their own will, i'm told, filed a brief, filed a motion, basically saying that they want to stand up for fani willis, that there's no georgia law that says that she should be disqualified from this case, that the charges should be dismissed. however, all of this goes back to these allegations that she is financially benefitting from a

personal relationship with nathan wade, her lead prosecutor, special prosecutor in all of this. you see him right there on the screen. she acknowledged that she is having a personal relationship with him but says there are no grounds for disqualification. those 17 people backed that up. and i'm told by a spokesperson from the d.a.'s office, they didn't request that brief. in fact, they filed it on their own. the d.a.'s office only found out about it once they saw it was filed. what we saw today in the last hour or so is former president trump, through his attorneys, basically responding to all of this saying, okay, yes, fani willis, you put out your nearly 200-page response, but what we're saying is this needs to be disqualified. all along, trump's team has been focusing not on that relationship and the financial benefit but more so on a speech she gave on martin luther king day weekend saying that she improperly inserted race into this whole thing. i want to read you a statement that steve sadow said, president

trump's filing focuses on the d.a's disingenuous that her racist church speech was not aimed at this case, the defendants or counsel, her claim utterly lacks plausibility, and goes on to say our filing argues that contrary to response, georgia law compels her disqualification, and goes on from there. fani willis attached a number of racist notes and things like that, basically saying, yes, race is a factor when it comes to the sort of threats she's receiving, chris. >> blayne alexander thank you for all of that, appreciate it. now to the growing backlash against fast food restaurants as customers continue to see prices rise. nbc's senior business correspondent christine romans is following this. christine, fast food orders coming with an extra side of inflation, not exactly palatable. what's going on? >> and fast foodies are fed up. we could do puns for the next two minutes. it's a serious story because you've got inflation coming to

the menu for so many of these fast food restaurants, at a time when so many customers are really searching for value here. the ceo of mcdonald's telling analysts, they saw folks who make $45,000 a year or less actually preferring to cook at home because grocery prices were easing and the prices on the menu at mcdonald's were too high. you have probably seen the viral tiktok and social media images of an $18 big mac combo meal. you know, that is one instance on a connecticut turnpike, and quite frankly, the mcdonald's folks say the franchisees set the prices they want, the affordability, the ceo says is going to be very important this year. they're hearing what people are saying, that these prices in some cases are too high, and people want value. taco bell, by the way, also seeing this, that the people really want to save money, they are promoting and expanding ten items on a $3 or less dollar menu, and other fast food

restaurants taking note here, a lot of people are price sensitive. i would say that after a couple of years of companies passing on prices and consumers taking it, now we've reached kind of peak inflation fatigue, and you can see it in some of these earnings reports where, you know, foot traffic is down and sales are down in some of these places because folks are just tired of the higher prices, chris. >> when the dollar menu starts at $3, that's when people maybe start to say, i'm not so sure. >> sign of the times. >> christine romans, thank you. a brand new example of trump's massive hold on the gop, the major shake uppotentially underway for the rnc in 60 seconds. nds. underway for the rnc in 60 seconds. potentially underway for the rnc in 60 seconds. safelite replace. ♪

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right, donald trump is signaling that current chair ronna mcdaniel isn't along for the job. her expected departure is a reminder how easy it is to fall out of favor with the former president, no matter what you say. >> the actions of this president show that he is a moral leader because he is working for the american people. when we reelect president trump this november, the best is yet to come. we need to unite around our eventual nominee, which is going to be donald trump, and we need to make sure we beat joe biden. >> here's where it gets interesting, under party rules, donald trump can't just replace mcdaniel, he is said to favor michael whatley. tara set meyer, a former gop, ashley parker, politics correspondent and msnbc political analyst. ashley, you have been reporting on ronna mcdaniel, is she done

at the rnc? >> well, this comes with all of the usual caveats involving former president trump, which is nothing is done until he, you know, essentially tweets it out, and it's worth noting that he gave this interview as a pre-taped interview with news max where he kind of said changes are coming. ronna knows changes are coming, and then several hours later, he met with ronna at a pre-scheduled meeting at mar-a-lago, and he likes ronna personally. although he has some frustrations with her, and he's very attuned to what the far right bases say, and when he met with her personally, there were a lot of people in his orbit who were thinking this is it. she's out. and then he puts out a statement saying she's doing a good job and we'll see where things are in south carolina. so he's sending a little bit of mixed signals, but there is definitely a ground swell, and certainly among the people around him and his campaign, who

really want to overhaul the rnc and make it a wing of the trump campaign, and sort of the trumpiest part of the trump base as well. >> and not to state the obvious, but, you know, saying that we'll see where things are isn't exactly a resounding endorsement. in a statement, though, we should point out the rnc said simply nothing has changed, this will be decided after south carolina. look, we know trump is under pressure now between the immunity ruling, all of his court cases coming up, the concerns about fundraising, do you think that's going to factor in to whatever happens with ronna mcdaniel? >> no, i think what ever happens who changed her name from ron na romney mcdaniel, this is a woman who has been obsequious to donald trump to rise in the party and to be relevant and more powerful than she has ever been in her entire political

career, and what has it gotten her. it's gotten her knifed by donald trump, as he does with everything. everything trump touches dies as my colleague at lincoln project rick wilson has written a book about. this is another example. the rnc has been dying and withering on the vine, a slow death for quite some time now because donald trump wants it to be in the image and likeness of him and his campaign. and ronna mcdaniel, it doesn't matter what happens with all of these other things, what they want is ronna mcdaniel out and someone new and in their image and likeness, more maga than she is, to run the operation. let's not forget that the rnc back in 2022 stopped paying donald trump's legal bills once he claimed he was running for president and filed. they said, listen, we can't pay your legal bills anymore. they were financing his legal bills. now we know that he spent $50 million of his campaign money paying for his legal bills. so the reason why the rnc is having such difficulty fundraising is because the majority of the people who they

would go for for money are giving their money directly to the trump campaign. and that's by design. and that's what the trump campaign wants. so this has been in the making for quite some time. they have been chipping away at the rnc's influence in a very nontraditional way for a couple of years now so they can fully control it and place someone who they want in there and possibly put in laura trump or someone like that as a co-chair, if they pick this election denier as the successor to ronna mcdaniel. >> ashley, tara points out that ronna mcdaniel even agreed to drop the romney from her name, and i think it was your paper back in 2017, there it is, that first reported that. but, again, in public, not only does she not say a bad word about him, the praise is consistent, huge. so what is going on really? >> and that's one of the reasons

that trump still does like her personally. tara said she's very obsequious publicly from dropping her name. she's sort of republican royalty. mitt romney's niece, dropping her maiden name, that is, and even privately, she has sort of earned the former president's respect by being able to in moments challenge him behind closed doors, delicately, but forcefully, but then never going out and repeating that in public. what's going on, of course, is that she is a cup of things, one is, she is getting some blame, and she deserves some culpability as the chair of the party for the party's bosses in 2018, 2020, and 2022, right, it's hard to withstand that. it's also worth noting that part of those losses are pegged as the former president trump. he was a drag on his ticket. he backed republican challengers and primaries who could not win

in a general election. when ronna has tied her fortunes so closely to the former president, she is reaping some of that downside while at the same time, there's a right wing conservative media ecosphere who wants someone more trumpy, who wants an election denier, who wants to take over the committee, and so she's sort of getting it from both sides. >> ashley parker always good to talk to you. tara setmayer, stay with me. it's not just the rnc that's messy right now. these are live pictures from the senate floor where lawmakers are voting for a border deal and an aid package that will not pass. there's continuing dysfunction on the republican side over this, and the vote follows that stunning duel loss for speaker mike john son on the house floor, failing to impeach the dhs secretary, and failing to pass the stand alone aid bill for israel. that is something that former

speaker nancy pelosi always considered kind of the mortal sin of politics. >> you have to have your votes. don't worry about the other side. you have to have your votes. you know what is a majority. if you don't have that, don't bring it to the floor. >> nbc's chief political analyst, chuck todd joins me now. you describe in this great article that you were up for nbc.com, the current state of american politics, for a family audience, i'm going to call it mubar, messed up beyond recognition. >> well said. >> i want to start with what you put as reason one. donald trump's control over the gop. why is that such a big part of this? >> well, i mean, there's just no room for any other debate. yesterday in particular, chris, i think is going to be a day that we can say has certainly put a period on the end of whatever attempt there was for a nontrump wing of the republican

party to have any juice, right? essentially the nontrump ring has surrendered everywhere. they have surrendered in the senate, mitch mcconnell pulled his support for the bill. they surrendered at the rnc, ronna romney mcdaniel, apparently getting rid of the romney name wasn't enough to keep trump on her side. in some ways that was a squeeze out. you have seen the trump folks targeting anybody that has hired a political consultant that worked for ris, they can't work, so you're starting to see, i mean, it felt like yesterday is the official takeover, right? it's been obvious that trump was about to take over the entire party, call all of the shots, but here it is, he's fused himself with the right wing information ecosystem, which of course you cannot, if you at all, you know, deviate from whatever the specific is, you're a rhino. and how do we know this? ask james lankford who's about

as far away from rhino as i would describe him, but suddenly because he tried to do something called governing, he became an enemy of the right wing. >> that's the first part of your thesis. the second is joe biden's rhetorical inability. tell us more. >> look, you have a democratic white house and a democratic message machine that doesn't have -- there may be other better spokes people, but your president has been to be the spokesperson. when the republican dysfunction ground government to a halt in 1996, bill clinton was able to turn that and use it, and he won reelection. when the same thing happened in 2012, 2011, actually, is when it happened under barack obama's watch, same thing. we see the attempt to do this, but they, you know, it is so obvious in our poll that there is just a huge concern about the president's age. and you have a white house that doesn't put him out there. he's not spoken to the nation

about launching nearly 100 military strikes in three different countries in the middle east. not at all. they've walked away from the layup of all interviews in american media, the super bowl interview, second year in a row they've done that. they're very hesitant putting him out there. it's always in a very controlled setting. he'll say some interesting things at fundraisers that leak out at print pollers. they're afraid of putting him out there. you're not going to be able to take advantage. you're going to have a messenger equal to trump's ability to contort reality. he has successfully done it on his side of the aisle. president biden right now, if he has the capability, his team isn't letting him. if he doesn't, it's a real problem for the democrats. >> chuck todd, i recommend the article, fubar, murar, however you want to look at it.

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any moment now we're expecting to hear from secretary of state antony blinken who has been meeting with top israeli officials in the biggest diplomatic push yet for an extended truce in gaza. a little over an hour ago, we did hear from israeli prime minister netanyahu. he rejects key demands in hamas's hostage proposal, vowing that the war in gaza will

continue until hamas is defeated. nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from tel aviv. where does that leave us with these negotiations, raf? >> reporter: well, chris, it leaves us with israel and hamas very far apart and both sides playing hardball. ten days ago cia director bill burns was in paris. he helped hammer out a broad framework of a deal. we are getting details of hamas's counter proposal to the framework. they are looking for a three-stage deal that ends with the war in gaza ending itself as part of the first stage of that deal they are looking for a 45-day pause in the fighting. they say they will release women, children, elderly and sick hostages. in return, they are looking for palestinian prisoners who fit into the same categories being released from israeli jails, and on top of that, they are looking for 1,500 more additional prisoners, a third of whom are

serving lengthy sentences for terrorism, for murder, for other violent offenses. prime minister netanyahu tonight rejecting those demands as delusional and saying israel will fight on to what he calls total victory. take a listen. >> translator: now, for the day after, i would like to clarify that the day after is the day after hamas, not part of the hamas, that the entire hamas. and i said to the secretary of state blinken that after we eliminate them, we will ensure that the gaza strip will be demilitarized forever. >> reporter: now, in a couple of minutes time, secretary of state blinken has the unenviable task of explaining to the world how he hopes to bridge the gaps between the two sides. you have hamas saying there can not be a deal without an end to the war, and you have israel saying the war will not end

until hamas is destroyed. i think the best hope here, chris, may be some kind of wiggle room for both sides where the israelis can potentially agree to the first stage of the dole without committing, necessarily, to an end to the fighting all together. hamas can say the first stage of the deal may lead on to other things. we will eventually get what we want including an all-out end to the fighting, reconstruction of gaza. it is a difficult task the secretary is facing here in the middle east tonight. trying to get this deal over the line. chris. >> monumental, you might say. we're going to listen in when that happens in tel aviv, and we'll let folks know if news is made. raf, thank you so much for that. back here at home, the department of education is investigating harvard university over whether it failed to protect palestinian, muslim and arab students from harassment, threats and intimidation. it was sparked by a complaint from the muslim legal fund which

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voters in nevada have added more evidence to a couple of facts about the 2024 election. joe biden and donald trump are indeed cruising to their nominations, and widespread disenchantment with both of them could be a boost to a third party candidate. and yet, the challenge for any candidate not named biden or trump lies in history. no third party candidate has ever won the presidency, and none has won so much as a single state since back in 1986. nbc's vaughn hillyard is on the ground in las vegas, tara setmayer is back. you had a chance to speak with robert f. kennedy about his chances. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: this is going to

become a serious conversation, chris, as it becomes more apparent that a joe biden, donald trump rematch is likely. the question is could we have a potential three-way race, and yesterday here at the nevada primary, there were volunteers for robert f. kennedy jr. that were gathering signatures to qualify him for the ballot, not only in nevada but there's volunteers around the country looking to get him on the ballot. that hit at the question marks and the concerns of not only ally of donald trump and joe biden, but others that look at the role that he could potentially have. if he doesn't outright win, could he play spoiler by pulling from one candidate versus the other. the tone and tenor that he strikes today about his own candidacy is worth noting is very different than the one when he was talking about ralph nader's run in 2000. take a listen. >> his candidacy could draw enough votes in certain key states from al gore to give the entire election to george w. bush. if polling were to show you were taking a greater share of the

electorate over joe biden and potentially help donald trump, would you bow out of this race? >> i'm not going to bow out of the race. i think americans should have a choice that they shouldn't be forced to choose the least of two evils. >> reporter: chris, it's always worth going back to the archives and wrote an op-ed at the time, months before that 2000 election as well in which robert f. kennedy jr. wrote a vote for mr. nader is a vote for mr. bush. he went on to suggest that nader was wrong when he dismisses his spoiler role arguing there is little distinction between the two major parties candidates. now, of course robert f. kennedy tells me that he intends to win this election here in 2024, but when we look back at that 2000 election, it was not just florida but new hampshire's, and

many suggest it was ralph that caused al gore's loss. there was a recent poll that shows kennedy would help trump. our nbc poll had him at 1%, other polls had him at hire. but, there are folks that argue, and vaughn just, you know, suggested this, that other candidates contributed to democratic losses, not just al gore's, but hillary clinton's as well. so historically, at least modern history, they're spoilers. but with the current level of dissatisfaction with trump and biden, is there any chance you see this year could be different? >> no, i think that third-party candidates are spoilers. history could potentially repeat itself again, and now more than ever, the idea of a third party is a threat to our democracy. this is not the time for this. i understand the frustration that the american electorate

has. people express frustration with a two-party position. we're not in a position now where we have two candidates who equally are, you know, who are equal threats to our democracy. donald trump is a threat to our democratic system. he says he wants to be a dictator on day one. president biden, you know, doesn't pose that threat. it's a policy difference. where maybe people think he's too old. okay, well, you need to take a step back, and look at what the choices are here. third parties do not work. they're spoilers. if you want donald trump to win the election, then go ahead, throw your vote away and vote third party. if you don't and you want to maintain our democracy and work within our system to reform it, maybe down the line, there can be an opportunity to have ballot access or a third party or whatever, that's fine. but right now, the threat to our democracy is too great to be messing around with third

candidacies. no labels has yet to put forward an argument that shows that their version of events actually constitutes a win. they don't have one, and so every single time we have gone through this exercise, it has really been a vanity candidacy, and if you look at what happened to hillary clinton with jill stein in 2016, jill stein cost her votes in states where if hillary clinton lost by less than votes than jill stein offered. so it's so obvious what's going on here. they're just exploiting the frustrations of the american people. but there has to be an argument put forward that people understand what's at stake here. there's a poll out today that shows that 39% of americans are okay with a dictator on day one. 39%. that should scare the hell out of everyone. that strikes at the heart of our democracy. we need to be worried about that. not third party vanity candidacies now. >> tara setmayer and vaughn hillyard, great find in the

archives. thank you, both, we appreciate it. the contests in nevada have put a spotlight on the voting block that will be crucial to the general election in november. latinos. nbc's david noriega is in north las vegas where he has been talking to latino voters. what are they telling you, david? >> chris, the main thing i'm finding in my reporting is that the latino vote is up for grabs in a way it hasn't been in past election cycles. that's true nationally, but it's very true here in nevada. take a look. >> north las vegas, zip code 89030. according to the census, the most hispanic place in nevada. 7 out of 10 people here are latino. and this is where many spend their weekends. this is broad acres, a huge flea market, swap meat, the beating heart of the latino community in north las vegas. manuel immigrated from mexico, more than 30 years ago. on the weeknights he stocks

supermarket shelves. on the weekends, he sells old video games. he has voted for biden, now he's flirting with the other side. >> everything is too expense itch. there's a lot of people who cannot afford food, rent, gas. >> reporter: what do you think about donald trump? >> you know, i think donald trump can be a good president for the country. but there's a lot of stuff he does wrong. i think he got so much hate for some people that he doesn't like and he just want to be himself, me and me and me. but as far as to bring the economy with the country, i think he would be great. >> reporter: do you know who you're going to vote for? >> not yet. ♪♪ >> reporter: most latino voters here are either mexican immigrants or children and grandchildren. they used to vote solidly democratic, but that's changing. trump made gains in 2020, in the

five most hispanic voting precincts in nevada, just like he's making gains nationwide. virtually tied with biden among latinos in our latest poll. >> i voted for obama twice and trump was the first republican president i voted for. >> reporter: lydia dominguez who's from el paso and moved to vegas four years ago, is all in for trump. >> they see what's happening with our economy. they know what the gas prices were even if 2020. we weren't born yesterday. we recognize that all of the immigrants coming in through our border is not helping, it's causing crime. >> i grew up around the corner. >> reporter: erica castro is a community organizer who grew up down the street from broad acres market. she'll be working to get out the vote for biden. she worries it might not be an easy lift. >> i think for the last few decades, the democratic party has said we're going to deliver on immigration, and that's been a big talking point for the latino community. but i think for a lot of latinos, they haven't seen

democrats deliver on immigration. they have actually seen things get a lot worse. >> democrats have historically been able to count on the latino vote here in nevada. is that still true? >> i think they're going to have to really work for it. >> reporter: chris, latinos are a crucial voting bloc, not just in nevada but in multiple really important swing states this year, so when all is said and done, the election in november could be decided by how the vote swings in some of these communities. >> no doubt about that, great reporting, thank you. another batch of heavy rain on the way for storm-battered california, the latest conditions and damage we're seeing after this. but first, a story worthy of a free willy sequel. a pod of killer whales that became trapped in drift ice off the coast of japan have now successfully escaped. environmental groups have been incredibly concerned with drone footage revealing 13 orcas were stuck. officials say when they returned

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they also said the 1.5 million people who signed the petition to get the ballot measure made it clear that residents of florida want to vote on this. take a listen to their arguments today. >> this is a wolf that comes as a wolf. i mean, the summary is pretty, if people think that this is sweeping, the summary makes it pretty obvious that it's sweeping. >> yes, and if voters don't agree with that, they will have the opportunity to vote against it. >> i would say that the title of this is understated to the point of deception. limit government interference, what you're talking about is an unambiguously eviscerate government interference. now, florida's supreme court has a conservative majority, and governor ron desantis, a republican, and fierce opponent of abortion, he's appointed five of the seven justices currently sitting on the bench. during the hearing we had many questioning whether the ballot measure could be too far

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good to be with you, i'm katy tur. so many words to describe what happened on the house floor last night, but one fits best. failure. house republicans failed not once, but twice, in two subsequent votes last night, failing to get enough gop votes to impeach dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas, and failing to get enough votes to fund israel. that's not all. we're waiting for what could be another major fail. this time in the senate as