statistically tied among latinos according to nbc's latest poll. talk to enough people in north las vegas and you start to understand why. mario -- who sells old video games at the flea market, voted for biden in 2020. now because of his views on the economy, he's flirting with the other side. >> i think donald trump can be a good president for the country. >> reporter: how the voters are telling us no politician should take them for granted. >> they want our votes. now they want something from us, but they don't want to give us anything. >> reporter: old so top of mind, decades of unmet promises by democrats on a pathway to citizenship for people like castro. she says that makes it harder for her friends and family to get excited to vote democrat. democrats have historically been able to count on the latino vote here in nevada. is that still true? >> i think they're going to have to really work for it. >> reporter: alex, nevada is a swing state this year.

and the latino vote is an important voting bloc not just an but several other key swing states that are highly competitive in this election cycle. different latino communities in different states or motivated by different things. we can't expect a motive at the same way. but what we do know is that whoever wins the white house in november, that decision could be made by the way people vote in neighborhoods like this one. alex? >> 100%. thank you for pointing all that out for us. david noriega, appreciate all the. new day with new information from a special counsel. this time is jack smith. his new warning and moments, plus what it was like to be inside the courtroom for thursday's supreme court arguments. and when is an insurrection just a riot? the former spokesperson for the january 6th committee gives me her take. me her take. to all of you, from msnbc headquarters in new york, welcome to alex witt reports. breaking news from the mar-a- lago classified documents case.

special counsel jack smith has until today to hand over active discovery to trump's legal team that smith orange could endanger more than two dozen witnesses. judge aileen cannon issued an order late yesterday after reviewing a scathing legal filing submitted by smith earlier this week. which called her rolling a clear ever and warrant disclosing entities of numerous potential witnesses would expose them to significant and immediate risks of threat intimidation and harassment. smith has until the end of this day to comply with her older. we have several reporters and analysts and place for you covering today's developments. we are going to start with nbc's dasha burns, who's at a trump rally in conway, south carolina. here in studio is danny cevallos -- welcome to you both. dasha, i'll start with you. has president trump mentions this new warning from jack smith at all during remarks today? and in general, what he's saying? >> not so much about jack

smith, alex, but certainly a whole lot about that special counsel's report on joe biden. the president had his classified documents case questioning biden's mental competency, and once again calling into question the typical rallying cry for him, calling into question the justice system, saying it's too tired and unfair. this is something that works very well with the crowd like the one here in south carolina. south carolina is very much trump country. this as a state that has become much more red and much for maggot since its former governor nikki haley was in that governor's mansion. they are both in the state right now. haley holding -- trump speaking to reporters right now, right here. and the thing that haley is trying to do right now, she's trailing former president trump by about 26 points according to the most recent poll. trying to use that issue of age, that has been hitting the spotlight on the campaign trail

because president biden trying to tie biden and trump together. she's been sending a billboard truck that's been driving around this rally area today, that stays grumpy old men. it has a picture of both trump and biden on it. looking to tell voters they should look to a new generation of leader. this has been her argument. she sees this as an opening, to try to release some support. but again, former president trump here using all these legal cases, using the biden report to galvanize his supporters. now let's remember that even and the special counsel's report, he did make clear that two classified documents case is, biden's and trump's are very different, especially given the level of cooperation that you saw from president biden, not so much from former president trump. but nonetheless, he's been using these legal cases to rally his supporters and to fund-raise. and he's going to continue to

do that, alex. >> 100% will. dasha burns, thank you. donny, take us through the significance of this petition by judge cannon, what happens next? >> with discovery, often, and especially in a case like this, the defendant gets hold of the puppeteer of that are very sensitive. and you enter into orders about nondisclosure. but a dilemma arises when you have to file a motion and asked the court relief. because it's a public filing engaged include exhibits. so what to do about these sensitive documents? you also have to include them as exhibit. jack smith is saying, the judge applied the wrong standard. that she, when jack smith said you've got to protect prevent it from becoming public, the judge said, you have to make this for a burdensome high showing. jack smith is essentially arguing, your honor, you've got the low wrong. that's what you have to reconsider the solution, because the standard is actually much lower. we don't need to show all that much to get the court to order from redactions for concealment of these filings on public

record. because there is a risk, a real risk of harm if you discloses peoples identities. >> like what? what are we talking about? what is the fear ejects math is concerned about? >> he lays it out in his motion to reconsider. it's basically the discovery that the trump team has, has witnesses and entities. it has other sensitive information. in the past, they fuse the system of identifying someone as what as one, quickness to. they have the system in place to avoid this inadvertent or whether it be intentional disclosure. so the trump team want to file these motions and just attach these exhibits. and jack smith is basically arguing to the court, after have already lost on the issue, he's asking the judge to reconsider. which by the way is never a comfortable place to be because you're asking the judge -- you're saying to the judge, almost but a finish, you got it wrong. >> they got it wrong. >> you can't ask a judge to reconsider. just because, hey, audit like the outcome, can you give it a second? look. no you normally have to point to something the judge got

specifically wrong. it's a little awkward to say that the judge in a public filing. >> okay. stay with me, we're going to talk about special counsel robert hur's released report this week and what that entails -- they've released that memo slim republicans for what they call him just for attacks on biden's age. let's get what to elliott rafah, standing by at the white house. what's the latest from the white house today? oh, based on ali. ah, there she is! good. there we go. , eligible sense of what the white house is saying today about all of this. >> alex, we saw the white house launch this very aggressive defense campaign, really hours after special counsel robert her report was released on thursday with the president coming out and in this far remarks firing back against those scathing claims that hur mentioned in the report about his mental fitness. at number seeing this, as an all hands on deck approach, by not just the white house but also democratic lawmakers and even allies of the president on the

other side of the aisle. they are trying to really continue drawing this contrast with former president trump, who's just a few years younger than president biden, and also discredit special counsel robert hur, the white house and the biden campaign have come out saying this report was politically motivated. dave said hur is not adult herenda or 4000 have a right to be giving a cognitive analysis, as they say he gave in this report. and what has price officials have been hard at work today, circulating this memo that mentions, specific instances where republicans have complemented the president on his mental fitness. this emirates in part, quote, even the republican officials have smear president biden for his eighth since 2019, on multiple occasions, former house speaker kevin mccarthy has emphasized how sharp, smart, and tough he finds the president. the white house also mentioning republican senator mitt romney's

defense of the president yesterday when he essentially made light of these gaffes. he also mentioned that former president trump, in recent days, has also confused, has also made confusing thoughts that he confused his gop opponent nikki haley with nancy pelosi, when referring to january 6th and the attack on the capitol. we're also seeing the white house counsel's office come out and slam the report. we shall spokes person in sam's at the what house press briefing yesterday say multiple inconsistencies and an accuracies and the report. he did not rule out the possibility of the transcript between president biden's interview with the special counsel to potentially be released, saying that any of those releases would have to be reviewed and possibly some information we have to be rejected for provocations. listen to more of his defense from yesterday.

claude >> when the inevitable conclusion is that the effect and the evidence don't support any charges, you are left to wonder why this report spain's time making gratuitous and inappropriate criticisms of the president. i think the public is smart and i think they can see what's going on. i think they see a president who fully cooperated. i think they see a president who did the right thing and made sure everything got back. >> alex, as far as the public and it's perceptions as you heard ian sams mentioned there, the challenge that continues to remain for this white house and the biden campaign is the polling we've seen consistently. that age continues to be a very big concern for voters throughout this election. it's one of the president's biggest political vulnerabilities. so you can imagine the campaign is weighing the pros and cons of whether to have the president out there are more in the unrest, very casual appearances before the american public. especially with now less than

nine months to go until election day. >> allie raffa, think you, we'll have more on this from done in sco paulo in just a few minutes. right now, at some live pictures from capitol hill. senators are working on passing a massive aid bill without borders security funds. this could lead lawmakers stop in the capital on super bowl sunday. now let's get to nbc's julia jester. we continue to see you, my friend. i know you are there on the hill for all this. without a unanimous agreement to speed on the process, julia, senators could be in the capital during the big game. does leadership realistically thing that can finish this bill before the game or when? tomorrow or no? >> leadership does not think this will get ramped up tomorrow. as you mentioned, unanimous consent is required to move forward ahead of it sunday one pm vote. absent an agreement on amendments, on the process, it is unanimous, the next step is a vote on sunday. that's a procedural vote. that will open up 30 more hours

of debate. it looks that lawmakers will likely be debating during the super bowl rather than voting. but there is a possibility acted however unlikely given that senator rand paul has been blocked that unanimous consent said he'll continue to do so until, quote, help person over. in the meantime, we have off the floor, senators working on agreements for amendments and on the floor as you can see senator mike lee, republican from utah, has been speaking for more than two hours at this point. here is a taste of what he's been saying. >> extortion is a word i would use. they are trying to get -- he's trying to get out of congress something congress is reluctant to do. by leveling the threat. the threat is i'll enforce the border even less than i have been. i'll make this even more chaotic. if you don't pass that ukraine

supplemental aid package. >> so while senator lee is brimming president biden, endorsement indication there is that veiled threat he mentions, earlier today, senator dick durbin, democrat of illinois, placed the blame at former president trump. no check republicans are the ones who asked for the border security to be linked to this foreign aid package. they asked for it, they were in negotiations, senator mitch mcconnell himself was even involved it with it there. and maclean events that he's going to encourage his republican colleagues to vote no on that critical vote at 1:00 tomorrow, that needs 60 votes to pass. he's saying if we kill this bill, he said he thinks that within a matter of days they can go back to the drawing board and come up with something that republicans can actually agree on. just a dose of skepticism there, alex, to give it negotiators worked for a four months to get a original bill text.

the idea we should go to square one, not likely. but to your point about leadership getting this past, if all goes well, this could actually happen late tuesday, early wednesday, depending on how these amendments go. >> okay, i guess we'll see. thank you so much. julia jester, on capitol hill. the next big legal question happen for donald trump, we'll talk about it when we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds. getting back on t. ha ha ha. variants are out there... and i have mouths to feed. big show coming up, so we got ours and that blue bandage? never goes out of style. i prioritize my health... also, the line was short. didn't get a covid-19 shot in the fall? there's still time. book online or go to your local pharmacy.

look, fda's not going to be charged, that's up to them. but then i should not be charged? [applause] this is nothing more than selective prosecution of biden's political opponent, may. >> donald trump responded to special counsel robert hur's report on president biden's classified documents case. hur says there will not be charges against biden because hur could improve woefulness be on a reasonable doubt. but today the white house once

again pushed back against hur's comments in the report about president biden's memory and h, colin out republicans for a while to adjust for attempts to undermine biden. back with me now, msnbc legal analyst and criminal defense attorney danny cevallos. look, hur let out a lot in his report. i want to refer to it. here we go. we have to make distinctions between the trump case and the bottom case. but former attorney general eric holder said the special counsel hur's report contains way too many critics remarks and is flatly inconsistent with long-standing doj traditions. has this report been subject to a normal doj review, these remarks would have undoubtedly been excised. do you agree? what do you make of the reports, including the comments on biden's age and memory? >> when it comes to special counsel reports, there isn't a vote and the way of gardens for all they should and shouldn't contain. we know after these investigations are complete, they fill up hundreds of pages

-- as they did in the mueller situation -- with parts and portions of their investigation and their conclusions and results. i've said this because it is the rarity, the exception, of the road to get those kind of glimpse into the thought process of a federal prosecutor. federal prosecutors have manual by which they are supposed to consider things like with i can prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. but i think it's fair to say once they concluded that biden would be a witness that was sympathetic, they probably didn't need to go into some of the osler stuff that comes off as a very insulting about his memory and really essentially calling him deep minded and old. those are the reasons he would be sympathetic. i have to say, on the one, hand it is refreshment the prosecutors do consider that duty. they have to consider not with like him get the indictment with a composer case beyond a reasonable doubt. >> hang on. they said was no roadmap for this. there is not a map for. this but as of the kind of thing they have to think about what

they're putting out there? and realized there is going to be potential political ramifications because of it? >> i think it's a fair argument, that this report comes off as very political. the cause -- i think it's an easy accusation to make. this is a report of those everything but indict. it invites all the way up to the actual indictment. in fact, the only exoneration in my view contained in the first sentence of the report. no charges have been brought. everything after that seems to be a lambasting of president biden. and so, yes, there are grounds for that because the special counsel has to do his work. what they concluded, will they investigated. that contained and hundreds of pages. but there's also a fair argument to be made that some of the comments about president biden's memory we're probably not necessary. and i have to say the other part of this, as a criminal defense attorney, that seems inconsistent is that my focus on the memory? prosecutors normally don't care whether or not a suspect remembers

committing the crime. they don't, say you to remember committing the bank robbery? well, i guess we can't get a conviction. that's not normally a factor. when it comes to classified documents cases, intent is relevant -- there is a point to be made that there were probably quite a few extra pages that didn't need to be enter about biden's mental acuity. >> okay, point ball taken on all of that. let's turn now to the immunity claims. we have trump who's expected to ask the supreme court by monday to take a look after the d.c. circuit cultural beals said we don't think you can claim presidential immunity, so are reeling against two and that. former impeachment counsel -- norm eisen and others carlos have returned. this if today's approach, meaning thursday, at the supreme court is any indication, they justices will soon rule against him there if they even agree to take up that case. do you agree with that and what do you think this says about how

they may roll? do they take this up? >> only the supreme court can definitively resolve this fundamental question at the heart of american justice. and i'm paraphrasing, those aren't my words. those are objects miss words when he asked the court to leapfrog the appeals court. in her this case. that statement was in service of a request that was designed to speed the case along. but arguably, even jack smith thinks this is a case the supreme courts will take up. i mentioned we might have some papers from them, now saying the opposite. because it doesn't necessarily zero through interest. they've got the ruling they wants. the base case scenario for them is the daisy court of appeals, that ruling stands and the supreme court does not take it. but i think there's a 55 to change the court takes us up. and i think that may seem low to people, but when you consider the district court, the d.c. court of appeals have written very thoughtful opinions on this issue, it is possible they supreme court may just want to stay out of it. it's not unheard of for them,

especially the roberts core, up to one to stay out of an issue and i think has been completely resolved at the court below. >> unanimously. >> right. that gives the supreme court even more raisin or grounds to say this is not a case we need to take up. but 50/50, i guess of i was leaning one way i've seen more like that take it up. and the secondary question they are then becomes speed. because that's the thing that everybody is talking about that nobody puts in the actual court papers. the real theme here is how fast can this trial goes forward if it ever goes forward? because a win for the trump team, even a fillers on immunity, a win for them is delay. if they delay this case, beyond an operation, it goes away. >> there you go, okay. danny cevallos, thanks so much. more than 1 million people are bracing themselves for the worst and they have nowhere to go. to go. and longer-lasting relief than tylenol rapid release gels because advil targets pain at the source of inflammation.

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and increasingly partisan supreme court appearing unusually unified this week as a from the liberal justices express skepticism that colorado or any other single states have the authority to take donald trump off the ballot. >> i think that the question that you have to confront is what a single state shut decide who gets to be president of the united states. in other words, this question of whether a former president is the school of insurrection to be president again is, just say it, it sounds awfully national to me. >> joining me now is nbc news supreme court reporter lawrence curlee who was inside the supreme court for this hearing. welcome. what was the dynamic you observed about the more liberal

justices and particular? we know where the conservatives came down, but those liberals had some opinions to share as well. >> reporter: the first thing to note about the atmosphere in the courtroom as donald trump himself was not present. which he has been a lot of these other court hearings. which has turned them into a bit of a circus, with people focusing on his expressions and gestures and things like that in the courtroom. he wasn't there. that allowed his lawyers to present a much more academic, abstract argument. and i think that probably helped trump's case in this case, because by presenting it as an absolute argument, you're making it less about insurrection and january 6th and the politics of it. the liberal justices certainly adopted the same kind of tone, the questions they were asking for mostly about these procedural legal questions about how you can force this provision of the four trains amendment that brought people from holding office who engaged in insurrection, rather than really delving into what an insurrection actually is. >> and you make a point, head

donald trump in there, he probably wouldn't have done himself any favors that they carried on with the antics with become so familiar with and his other courtroom appearances. you know it in your apartment, judges seemed concerned about the different starts having different roles for who's on the ballot. are you surprised less time was spent on the merits of whether trump it should be disqualified? did it appear ever already leaning in trump's favor? >> one of the things you can tell from oral argument, which of course is not the final decision of the court, but just the justices talking things through, while they're focusing on. in this case, there is so many questions, different legal questions that i kind of bubbling up. that's before you even get to the question of why is there an insurrection, did donald trump -- will see closely involved with that? as he culpable for it? and who gets to decide whether there was an insurrection? that was the closest i got to -- who gets to the side, the

issue of do you allow a state court in colorado who decides, thin the whole of the country has to follow what they do? that seems to be one of the big concerns that schiff have. >> narrowly 80 amicus briefs filed with the high court,. many in support of trump. many in support of the challenges. that includes a dozen former republican officials. are they still being considered, even if their arguments for and brought up on thursday? >> the justices as i mentioned, the stuff they discuss an oral arguments at the front of their mind. the questions they want to delve into. the court doesn't hinge its decisions on what state in an amicus brief. but sometimes it might pull something out of an amicus brief to make a point in an opinion when the ruling comes out. but the oral argument does schultz at the front of their mind and the front of mind seems to be the predicate concerns about what happens if you allow this promotion to be

enforced and how that would affect not just this election but all kinds of elections. >> 100%. lawrence hurley, thanks for weighing in. meantime, moments after the supreme court jordan thursday, told arguments and the colorado ballot, former president donald trump sent this outside of mar- a-lago. >> they kept saying about what i said, right after the insurrection. i think it was an insurrection caused by nancy pelosi. this was an insurrection, in which there were no guns, there was nothing. >> former spokesperson for the january 6th committee hannah muldavin posed to this response on x. fact check, donald trump knew there were weapons in the crowd on january 6th. he admitted that they're not here to hurt me. cassidy hutchinson told the select committee this and more. joining me now is the former spokesperson for the january 6th committee for that, post hannah muldavin. welcome, i'm glad to have you here.

because you also included a video clip from cassidy hutchinson and this was the testimony before the january 6th committee. you helped prepare her testimony for that. let's play some of that and get your reaction on the other side . >> in the tenth, i was part of the conversation. i was in the vicinity of a conversation. i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't care they have weapons, they are not here to hurt me -- let my people march on the capitol from here. let the people in. >> what does that tell you, what she's saying, what she heard him say? she gave that testimony under oath to the january 6th committee, so what's your reaction? >> thanks for having me here. it's lovely to see you. cassidy hutchinson was a big deal. everybody knows that. we brought her as a surprise hearing for the january 6th committee. sometimes we forget why she was a big deal. does as one of those raisins.

cassidy hutchinson said she heard donald trump acknowledge he knew there were weapons and the crowd. he said he didn't think they were there to hurt him. that means when donald trump said, let's go to the capital, he said he was going to instruct the people at his rally to go to the capital. he knew they had weapons. that's huge. we know that from cassidy hutchinson's testimony. he was planning or wanted to go to the capitol with him. when we hear statements you just played of trump talking after these oral arguments at the supreme court, he's saying they didn't have weapons, we know he knows they did. this is another example of donald trump lying to us. i think it's important, when we hear these things, when he's saying this in realtime, we called him out. because we don't want what happened on january 6th to happen again. >> let's also play a little bit of sound from the supreme court hearing about whether this and it was an insurrection. and we'll talk about that. here it is. >> for an interaction, dirt needs to be an organized,

concerted effort, to overthrow the government of the united states through violence. and this -- >> the point as a critic efforts to overthrow the government is not an insurrection? >> we didn't concede it's an effort to overthrow the government either. none of these criteria were met. this was not a riot. it was not an insurrection. it did not qualify as insurrection, as the term is used in section three. >> what do you make of the trump attorney saying it was shameful but it was a riot? it was not an insurrection. >> it is disgusting and it is frustrating that they think that the american people and those very intelligent justices on the supreme court, specifically the one asking the question, would believe that. the day after, there was a d.c. federal court judge who was talking to one of the writers sentencing them. they sentenced over 700 of those individuals, by the way. and said, we all know this was an insurrection. we know what happened on that

day. but donald trump and the people around him keep trying to pretend like we don't. that's why on the january 6th committee, the first hearing we had in prime time, we played this 12 minute video. because we wanted to show and remind people the violence of that day. says was not an average during a session of the capital. this was a violent attempt to overthrow our government that donald trump led. >> and the fact that justice clarence thomas has not recused himself from this case, despite all of the delegations -- allegations against his wife being part of this group that was trying to overthrow at least not certify the election. on january 6th. what are your thoughts on that? >> it's striking but a surprising. i would say, when it comes to ginni thomas and clarence thomas, a reminder of yours of the january 6th committee uncovered plus ticks messages between her and mark meadows. back and forth, talk a lot about overturning the election. it's funny, there was one case clarence thomas recused himself

from that had to do with the january 6th committee. it was emails we were trying to receive from john eastman, trump's lawyer. and he recused himself because he was named in it. trump's lawyers were going back and forth and say it clarence thomas is our best shot, if we can delay the certification on january 6th. it tells you something, that donald trump's allies are saying clarence thomas is our best shot. so not recusing yourself from that. we know how donald trump's allies think of him that way. top leaders have called on clarence thomas to recuse himself and it striking he is not. >> was there anything else donald trump said in his statement afterward that made you think twice or think, that is false? >> donald trump keeps perpetuating or trying to blame nancy pelosi. donald trump confuses nancy pelosi and nikki haley on a daily basis -- we should keep repeating that. he keeps trying to put the blame at nancy pelosi. the january 6th committee

debunked that. many news organizations also debunked. that there was no chance nancy pelosi hit any power and what was going on on january 6th, he's trying to divert the attention from himself. that's why we need to keep it on him and make sure he's ellicottville for what he did. >> repercussions from this case, however it comes out, how long term are they? >> it seems like everyone says they're going to not weigh in on this. it's going to be done to the polls. this is going to be people go after the ballot box and voting for probably either donald trump or joe biden. we cannot have donald trump in office again. he's still lying to us about the 2020 election and everything else. it will come down to the polls. >> hannah muldavin. can i say, i'm a fan. let's put at that. way >> likewise. >> it's all. good america's biggest day for sports betting is almost here. you are going to want to be sitting down when you hear the numbers. unless you want to get knocked off your feet. that's ahead. ed off your feet. that's ahead. eed to scale withr demand...

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90,000 transgender americans. for more on this i'm joined by nbc out reporter joe your cable. i'm glad you're here. give me your thoughts after seeing that video. >> it's part of this larger nationwide trend. we've sent republicans specifically targeting lgbtq inclusive books or both but north of color. so this is really an example of that intensifying. would never retain a campaign card like this with two books that valentina gomez set on fire were lgbtq inclusive. they were -- books. this is an intensifying of this attack on lgbtq books we've seen over the past few years. >> it's extraordinary, the intensity we're seeing across the country. gsmez, for her part, has a section of her website called protecting children against the transgender agenda. but that survey i mentioned found 94% reported feeling more satisfied with their lives since

transitioning and 98% reported the same since starting hormone therapy. so how do you think we got here, given this survey suggesting the majority of trained individuals feel better after transitioning? is it about individual rights? is it about party politics? or is it about a culture that is yet to largely come around to other understanding or accepting transgender people? >> i think it's a combination of all those things. and i actually spoke to the executive director for that national center of transgender equality about that stripe of what came out. he said they're hoping, one of the things the survey helps with is misinformation coming out of state houses. the oval woman idea the trains people regret their transitions. the survey shows us that isn't true. >> what about the data from the survey, jo? should it impact the republican- led search an anti-trans

legislation? i'm persian your answer will be yes, but what are the chances it does that? >> the hope is it does. but it's not looking likely at this point. so far this year, according to the aclu, with only seen 400 bills targeting trans people, lgbtq people be introduced. the majority of those target trans people. for context, we should just of of hundred for all of last year claude. they're already looking at a record breaking year. >> i'm curious, and this is sensitive for people. how is legislation and rhetoric -- how does it impact the mental health, the well-being of trains people? >> it has a significant impact. the trevor project released data from last year at that fine flinty 1% of lgbtq youth seriously consider the u.s. -- suicide last year. and a significant portion of them attributed that to conversation in the state legislatures about anti lgbtq bills.

we know this has an impact on all lgbtq people but particular youth who are being targeted by most of these bills. either because that ban trains youth for playing sports or the regulate what bathrooms they can use in school. >> you mentioned the fact it's been ramping up since less here. we are in an election year. trans people are already a talking point for the gop. big picture. what are your expectations for anti-trans language this year and beyond? >> i expect it will continue to search and get for us. and advocates, they think as a result, violence against trans people could get worse. with already seen anti-lgbtq violence surge in the last few years. a store owner and california was shot to death due to the pride flag she had hanging outside restore. we are expecting the kind of violence to continue as well. >> and when you look at the candidate in missouri with a flamethrower, that literally only adding fuel to the fire, with a kind of thing. >> right, yeah, exactly.

that was one of the criticisms that someone pointed out online. they compared corrections to that of not sees -- the knots epoque burning campaigns in the 30s and 40s. she didn't respond to that criticism. but that's the fear is it's really an example of things we have seen during acts of genocide. >> jo yurcaba, a very strong conversation we're having. what we should have for hoffman. thanks for a time. that will get it from a on this addition of alex witt reports. i'll see you again tomorrow at one pm eastern. up next we have the ari melber inspection trump on trial. so tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to this special addition of th