putin sincerity, we certainly have reason to doubt his. that does it for me today. i'm looking forward to tomorrow's night show at eight pm eastern, right here on msnbc. former manhattan district attorney, saipan, fought and won a battle with donald trump over presidential immunity before the supreme court. he's going to join me to talk about that as donald trump prepares to appeal on that issue. plus, joe biden's personal attorney, bob bauer, will join us to give his take on robert hur's report. for, now stay right where you are. there is much more news coming up on msnbc. more news coming up on msnbc. >> it is a remarkable article inside president biden's five hour face-off with the special counsel. why the president's attorneys thought the interviews went well, only to be stunned by robert hers disparagement of biden's memory. we'll have the best guys to talk about this. former press secretary, current

and sbc host, jen psaki. that interview coming up in minutes. and a very good day to all of you from nbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with the breaking news, right, now the senate is holding a sunday session as lawmakers scramble to lockdown a last-minute deal on funding for both ukraine and israel. this comes after republican scrapped a bipartisan border deal that would have finalized that budget for wartime. we have a live report ahead for you. of course, that wartime aid, in the meantime. a second vote on -- all hundred mayorkas impeachment. that is set for tuesday after house republicans first attempt fell short last week. today, secretary mayorkas is dismissing the vote. calling the gop's allegations against him a distraction. >> there are baseless allegations, kristen. that is why i am not distracted by them. i am focused on the work of the department of homeland security. i've got a busy day today,

after the show. a busy day upwork. i've got a busy day monday, tuesday, wednesday, and so on. >> we'll also new today, lawyers are arguing donald trump should be removed from colorado's ballot. they're calling on the supreme court to make a decision by the end of today. they say the state will start mailing its ballots tomorrow and voters need to know who will be and won't be on the ballot. in the meantime, republican candidates, donald trump, and nikki haley, they are turning south carolina into a turf or ahead of the primary there. during his rally last, night trump questioned why haley's husband, an active service member, has been absent from the campaign trail. hours later, the former south carolina governor fired back. >> and i'll say this. donald, if you have something to say, don't say it behind my back. get on a debate stage and say it to my face. >> trump is facing severe backlash for another remark he

made last night about siding with russia, if it attacked a needle country that didn't pay enough for defense. >> one of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, serve, if we don't, pay and were attacked by russia, will you protect us. i said, you didn't pay? you delinquent. you say, yes. let's say that happened. no, i would not protect you. in, fact i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. >> and the white house also had a sharp response on trump's nato comments, let's head right to the white house. we have nbc's allie raffa standing by for us. welcome to you, ali. what was the reaction overall from the administration today? >> yeah, alex, some very sharp criticism of that comment by former president trump, saying that he had encouraged russia to do whatever it wants to. any nato country that essentially doesn't pay its fair share. we saw a white house spokesperson put out a statement after trump's comments, saying, quote, because of president biden's

experience leadership, nato is now the largest and most vital it has ever been. encouraging invasions of our closest allies by murderous regimes is appalling and unhinged. a dangers national security, global stability, and our economy at home. the biden campaign, alex, also seizing on this. posting a clip of trump's comments on x. last i checked, ten or 15 minutes ago, that clip has over 17 million views now. as we regularly here, the president and white house officials tout the presidents ability to coalesce nato members, especially in the aftermath of russia's invasion of ukraine. i would expect this messaging to continue, as they continue drawing this contrast between the president and his predecessor, alex. >> absolutely. what about the biden administration officials who we saw in force today, especially in the wake of the classified documents report. who did we hear from today, ali?

>> alex, that all hands on deck strategy that we talked about is continuing in full force today. several biden administration officials, democratic lawmakers, allies, really dominating the airways on sunday shows this morning. they came out really trying to slam those mentions by special counsel robert hur about the presidents mental fitness, and his age. trying to discredit the special counsel himself. we heard from a secretary, alejandro mayorkas, as well as biden campaign co-chair, mitch landrieu, on meet the press this morning. take a listen. >> the most difficult part about a meeting with president biden is preparing for it. because he is sharp, intensely propane, and detail oriented, and focused. >> the most important thing to remember is the president was found who have been engaged in no wrongdoing. unlike president trump, which has 91 felony counts pending against him. by the way, and overall the

depositions of president trump has taken in this case, he doesn't remember, or doesn't know over 1000 times. >> the biden campaign is trying to flip the script. last night, the sent an email to supporters from the first lady, dr. jill biden. she addresses her claim in that report about the president not remembering the exact here that his beloved son mo died. she says and that email, in part, i hope you can't imagine how it felt to read that attack, not just as joe's wife, but as bosma they're. i don't know what the special counsel was trying to achieve. we should give everyone grace. i can't imagine someone would try to use our son's death to score political points. when asked about the thinking behind this email, a senior campaign adviser tells nbc news, at the special counsel is going to use her debts that is a political weapon, she is going to ve something to say about it. so she said it. alex. >> allie raffa, thanks so much, from the white house. we want to let all of you know

we're keeping an eye on capitol hill. just a few minutes, go in, fact on, time the senate started this. it is a procedural vote that is regarding the funding for aid, humanitarian aid, and military support to ukraine, taiwan, israel, as well. all three are bundled together that. we're going to watch this vote and see the outcome, of every port on it, as it becomes available. i'm joined now by jen psaki. the host of inside with jen psaki, right here on msnbc. a core, she also served as white house press secretary at the start of the biden administration. let me say to you, apparently you and i are channeling our angelic sides today. >> we're a match. were shown neighbors. >> that's what it. is it's an identical thinking kind of thing. anyway, so let's talk about the super bowl interview. typically, that's done by our president, right? wouldn't it be a perfect opportunity for this president to show that he has still got the ability to do what is his job. do you think is something they passed that? >> i think the probably was a discussion and debate about it inside the white house.

that's what usually happens in cases like this. now, we're not in the days of olden days when -- used to host the meet the press from the super bowl, and jim nance would kind of, you know, talk super bowl stuff with presidents in these kinds of interviews. that's not what this would be. that is because they are serious journalist doing these interviews. they would ask about a lot of the things that are happening in the world, as they should. that is something the president would be prepared to answer, but if you're debating and discussing this in the oval office, or trying to figure out, they're going to give him ten minutes, they're going to cut it down to three, if there are three minutes that they get to select before the super bowl, to people want to hear that while they're getting their chicken wings, that he not their nachos? that's what i meant the calculus was. i don't think is the end of the world. my bet is it was probably a tough call internally for them. >> you, know when you hear, earlier, on various broadcasts, including meet the press, secretary mayorkas, a coal comparing chair for this, year they're giving these full-

throated defenses of donald trump. really and vatican. he, part of, meet president biden. what was i thinking? not what i said. wouldn't it be smart for joe biden to get out there do it himself? the white house has said that he is the best person to defend himself out there. >> sure. he went out on thursday night and did that. there were some imperfect moments, there were also some fierce moments in that press conference. i think it's really, alex, about whether or not an interview that was going to be cut massively down, at a time when people are trying to gather with friends and family, and nachos, was the right opportunity to do that for them. that is why you make a calculus about when you're sitting in the white house, and having a debate amongst advisors. >> so you think that the impromptu news conference on thursday night, that was a good thing? you think there is no blow back from that? >> i think there were good moments and moments that were not ideal. i also think that it shows he is not afraid of speaking out and defending himself. they'll have other opportunities to do it.

i just think that it is really a question of whether or, not and obviously i wasn't in these meetings, i haven't worked out almost two years, whether or not they thought that this interview, which would be very short, and play at a time when people in the public were focused on other things, was the right opportunity to do. that that's what kind of calculation siamak. >> in terms of other, things do you think we're going to hear more calls from democrats for the release of those actual transcripts or recordings of robert hur's interview with president biden? so then back up his assessment of the president's mental state? >> that's a good question. possibly. it's also true, and i had adam schiff on earlier, he made this point, which i had not thought about, but it's a good one, is that republicans would've had loved to have robert herr testify before congress because he's making points that aligned with their political view. so i think it's just a question of what's beneficial. yeah, five hours of testimony will certainly tell you a story. it's also important to remember that it's pretty, it's a pretty common tactic, not tactic, but pretty common for people who

are being interviewed in scenarios like this to say, i don't remember, i don't recall. and part because that's what's constructed if you don't. that's also something ivanka trump did 29 or 30 times when she was interviewed. no one thinks she's losing, at or senile. of course, she's not. >> you know the inner workings of all this, so, let's go with what the washington post said. it is a very detailed account of all the events surrounding this interview. the presidents team had spent significant time preparing biden to discuss his role in handling the documents, as well as his views on the propriety of keeping note cards work he had jotted down classified information. they did not anticipate that the president's ability to recall dates around the details which figure into the questioning. my question to you, jen, was the president properly prepared for that interview? >> that does not seem to be the issue, alex. i think that story, which i read this morning, also notes that her was more generous to people who said, during his interviews with them, i don't remember, i don't recall. other people. he was particularly

aggressively critical, and provided his own unqualified medical guidance, of president biden. now, the thing is this is common, as i conveyed, it is kind of a common thing that happens when these interviews are done. it's something that has been done by democrats, republicans, but people who are no political power, when they have these events of six years ago. -- in some reports, they do as, well kind of remind people that this was the day after the attack on israel. the worst attack in decades. that is where, and i know from working with the president, that was what was on his mind. that's what he was thinking of. they didn't want to council because they had scheduled today to do this. maybe they should have. obviously that was on his mind. it doesn't seem to be a lack of preparation here. i think it's more about the editorial decision-making that robert her, you know, decided on. >> i'm so glad you bring up the, dates madeleine dean, of course, congresswoman from pennsylvania did that yesterday.

october eight were the dates of these five hour discussions. i mean, come on. look at what happened on october 7th. it is a very good point you make. however, one that's been lost discussion about the presidents memory. are these key differences between the biden and the trump classified documents investigation, here we go, quantity of documents. who discovered those documents? the handling of those documents, ones that were discovered. how does the biden team make the merits of the investigation the main narrative now? >>, while i'm not sure, alex, that is going to be the primary focus. i'm sure they'll continue to do that, and they want people to be very clear. for example, because, when this came, out there was 380 pages. no it had a chance to really read the whole thing. people were reporting it. people were saying that he would even lay took the documents out, that was inaccurate. the page 200, they basically, say he didn't do that. so they are, and they've been

aggressively doing this in terms of trying to make the details accurate. what i think they're going to try to do, and we've seen this a, bet is remind people of how out of the norm robert her dead. and also try to remind people of what this is actually about. this race. >> and, to do that, let's go right and to frank rooney, at the new york times, as you know, urges the president to talk to americans more about him and less about trump. here's a quote. trump has monopolized americas a question, and warm to swing to our consciousness. it means voters know a case against him it might feel condescending to buy someone lecturing them on it. so let's not linger on helplessly we need to vote for him, suggest how wise they would be to vote for you. do you think that biden could win this election if he makes it all about his accomplishments and not the threat that's posed by donald trump? >> i mean, look, i am a rooney reader and fan. i like reading his column. i don't know that that is good political strategic advice that he just gave their.

this race, given the historic threats, and the view of most democrats and independents, of a trump presidency, is something that people do need to be reminded of. including what he is saying, and what the impact of it would be. the challenge, alex, i think, a harder challenge, to be honest, for many people in the media, how to decipher throw it. he says 30 inaccurate things in his speech. he, last night, of course, said russia should be able to attack nato allies. it's hard to figure out what you should be focused on, and talking about. part of the important thing that needs to be happening here, from the biden team, from the campaign, is to remind people of what trump is saying he's going to do. actually, making it, making it a referendum on that as the better political strategy. >> the fact that trump went there and said, russia can do whatever the hell you want to, for those who have been paid out right, the nato members. was that an agree just mistake on his part? is that going to come back to

bite him? >> well, it's hard to know. i don't know where, alex. it's hard to know, alex. that's why it's important to talk about what it means, right? people who haven't studied russian history, or haven't studied world war ii, they may not, or the 80s, of course, they may not be familiar with what the threat is here. nato, nato alliance is what came to the defense of the united states in the short period after 9/11. right? that's when it was triggered. it is a vital alliance, it also stands up for our values, democracy, it's standing up for that across europe. what he's suggesting is that he is going to stand aside as commander and, while russian leaders, by the, way of course, invaded ukraine, threatening other countries. it is important to discuss and remind people of that, what the impact is going to be. it is hard to know. you know why? tomorrow, he could say something even crazier.

we don't down. it is still important to explain to people what it means, let them make their own decisions about the impact. >> that was a gracious comment, jen. we know he's going to say something crazy. it may not happen tomorrow, may not happen tuesday -- >> i don't know it is public events scheduled looks like, we'll see. >> all right, jen. thank you so much. it's good to see you. appreciate that. and, you can watch inside with jen psaki, studies a 12, pavement is at a pm eastern, only on msnbc. we have some breaking news to share. we're going to head right back to the white house. nbc's allie raffa standing by for. as you've got some details about a new phone call this morning. it happened between president biden and his israeli prime minister netanyahu. what happened, what was discussed, what do you know? >> yes, alex. this was the first phone call that these two leaders have shared since january 19th. there was a lot of attention, specifically, on this call. it is the first call coming after we heard the president really use the sharpest language he has since the israeli hamas war began on

october 7th. this described is reels a retaliation in the gaza strip, calling it, quote, over the top, in those remarks, on thursday night, from the white house. we now have a reaction from that call from the white house. they say that on this call between the president biden and prime minister netanyahu, they discussed a shared goal to see hamas defeated, and to ensure the long-term security of israel and his people. they also discussed ongoing efforts from the secured the release of all remaining hostages held by hamas as soon as possible. the president, the white house, have emphasized the needle on progress made in hostage negotiations. he also called for urgent and specific steps to increase humanitarian assistance to innocent palestinian civilians. lastly, alex, they say he reaffirmed his view that a military operation and rafah should not proceed without a credible and executive will plan for ensuring the safety and support for the more than 1 million people sheltering

there. it says, leslie, that the two leaders remain in close contact. that comes after prime minister netanyahu say last week that the rafah is the last bastion that hamas has been holding, yet, netanyahu then ordered his military to devise a plan to be able to evacuate the more than 1 million palestinians that are displaced and sheltering at the rafah border. they're backed up against the egyptian border, and we've heard egyptian president al- sissi repeatedly say, as well as egyptian officials, they are not willing to open that border crossing to allow those innocent palestinians to shelter in egypt. the u.s. has repeatedly said that without, what they say, is a robust plan by israel to be able to about to wait and protect those civilians, before they start any sort of large ground assault of rafah, they

would not support any assault by the israeli's. the question now is, alex, what are those plans that israel is devising right now, whether they can realistically be implemented in a humane way. how soon we can see that implemented, alex. >> okay, thank you. duly noted. the first conversation between the two in about three weeks. thank you so much, ali rafah. congresswoman jasmine crockett of texas is next. we're back in 60 seconds. is n we're back in 60 seconds. ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one.

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very in the weeds. this is a vote, it is not the vote. we're keeping an eye out for. this is a procedural hurdle put out by senator -- mike lee. after this vote, which is expected to fail, we will see the next procedural vote which need 60 votes to open up another 30 hours of debate on this national security supplemental bill. you may be able to see, didn't i see this yesterday, why is this taking so long? it is because there is not a unanimous time agreement. senator -- has vowed to block that which doesn't give them an incentive to bring amendments to the floor. now, we're hearing from members where their bind is ahead of this potential eventual passage of the bill. take a listen. here is where leadership is. >> i can't remember the last time a senate was in session on super bowl sunday.

as i've said all week long, we're going to keep working on this bill until the job is done. >> we're going to wield american strength frivolously. we do it because it's in our own interest. we equip our friends and adversaries, so we are less likely to have to spend american lives. to defeat them. >> we emphasize mitch mcconnell's remarks today. he really encouraged gop colleagues to vote for this bill, saying the eyes of the world are on america right now. that any disregard for the global interest america has as a power, he said that is idle work for idle minds. it has no place in the u.s. senate, alex. >> okay, let me ask you a follow-up question. we expect just one procedural votes with guarding mike lee's proposal, that will likely fail. the next one, we'll call it the procedural vote. if they get the 60 votes, to then allow for the extension of

time to debate this, does that give an indication as to how they ultimately may vote on whether or not to fund this military, humanitarian aid, all of it, to israel, ukraine, and taiwan? >> you know, you don't have to take my word for, alex. senator chris murphy in connecticut, the democrat he was a key part of the negotiations of the bill, they ordered border provisions that ultimately got stripped. he said this morning that he is confident that this bill will pass, because this closure vote, coming up, needs 60 votes, and earlier, or late in last week, the senate already was able to have that vote threshold from previous procedural votes. now, this is just a time game, as i mentioned, this could be sped up, if all 100 senators agreed to a time agreement. we had that holdouts and so we wait, alex. >> okay. then the indication been,

according to your sourcing, there that if there is a yes in the procedural vote, it could be a u.s. on sunday. so, we will see what happens. thank you for explaining all those for us, appreciate it. joining me now, democratic congresswoman from texas, jasmine crockett, she sits on the house oversight committee. welcome to you. it's always good to see you. so, you see your colleagues there, in the senate, working on super bowl sunday, trying to get this israel, ukraine, taiwan funding deal, no border deal. how much of that is due to trump's influence. the latter, part no border deal. >> you know, first of all, it's good to see, you alex. you and i both know that they have all decided to bend the need to trump. that is the only reason there will be no border funding. i want to translate this for the american people. basically, trump said that it is not okay to take cities that are overrun. it is not okay to help our states out that are saying that we need the resources, we need the money to make sure that our

own budgets aren't toppled. for everyone that is upset with the president, i do want to be clear that the republicans are bending the need to trump, and he is the one that is blocking aid and support that you desperately need and you are cities, and the president has tried time and time again to make sure that that support is available, as well as to make sure that those that work for -- and others, have the money that they need. >> look, while some of the gop are battling to fund ukraine, in its fight against russia, donald trump is saying that he would encourage russia to attack a nato country if it is behind on payments to the alliance. the white house is called those comments appalling and unhinged. how do you interpret that? >> paging e. jean carroll. i think he and her have the same energy. the -- million dollars that he owes. we don't stop, we just keep going. we go, we get our money. look, this is absolutely ridiculous that we're even

talking about the candidacy of a donald trump. some of that we know was always pauline around with russia. someone who encourage the interference with our domestic elections and the first case. the fact that he is not learned his lesson, while losing his election from his very ridiculous and dangerous rhetoric, tells us everything that we need to know. i truly don't understand how and why anyone can see that this guy is a viable candidates. we are talking about someone who literally may start world war iii. it is just that. for everyone that thinks that they are now an expert and foreign policy, i need you to look up what happens when we don't do what we're supposed to do for our nato countries. if you're going to be a foreign policy expert, don't just be an expert in the middle east. become an expert and all of foreign policy, and understand how dangerous this guy is. >> you can start by looking up in the dictionary the definition of an ally. let's go from there. your republican colleagues have

been had an embarrassing week after back-to-back failed votes on -- alejandro mayorkas, and a vote on sending aid to israel. a stand-alone. the house only has a few more days in the session before the two government funding deadline. that's in early march. the question is, can speaker johnson get the house back in order before than? >> alex, we have not been in order. we have not been in order. all year long. i think this is why we are on our second speaker. this is why we went through 19 votes, this is why we have a historic number of members that have been censored. this is why we are going to the impeachment inquiry on president biden. this is why we are dealing with hunter biden's nude photos. this is why we are dealing with looking at mayorkas impeachment, who is the first cabinet member to be potentially impeached since the 1800s. right? we have not been in order. actually, that is the problem.

do i believe that mike johnson absolutely wants to get this done on behalf of trump? i do. do i believe that he is willing to risk the life of one of his members, his whip? i do. it is, my understanding, that they plan to pull him out when he is undergoing stem cell treatment regarding his cancer, so he can go through what will ultimately be a failed impeachment. the fact that he thought that it made sense to bring a stand- alone israel aid bill, was just laughable. the fact that he didn't pull it down after he lost the impeachment tells you that this guy is in over his head. >> let me move on to president biden, who has a furiously, as you well know, taken issue with special counsel robert hur's characterization of his memories been poor. this of course happened in his report on the president's handling the classified documents this week. you met with him shortly after

he, shortly after this was released. tell me your concerns, if you have any. how was he, what was your conversation like, talk about that. >> so, we had our issues -- it was taken place and virginia. oddly, enough i've received an alert from one of my chats about the fact that the reporting, and what they did, they highlighted the one particular paragraph. they obviously didn't have a chance to read through the full, almost 400 page report. the president was delivering remarks to us, and he actually made sure that he addressed this, and this was not part of the script. he talked about it, and the top of his remarks. listen, the president is fine. this game that we're playing, it is absolutely ridiculous. as someone who has practiced criminal defense work before, i have never had the defense of this -- man forgetful. this is not a defense.

the fact that this report has spent a lot more time talking about these objective impressions that the special prosecutor was left with, the subjective perceptions that have no basis and law whatsoever, tells you everything that we need to know. we know, in my opinion, that there were a couple of reasons that contributed to a trump presidency in the first place. one was the comey report that ultimately, obviously, exonerated and cleared hillary clinton. the timing of it, luckily, this came out a little bit earlier. this is just to steer away from the fact that we have talked about a guy who has not only 91 counts of indictments, that are pinned against him, in multiple jurisdictions, has not only been found liable, for sexual abuse of a woman, has not only been viable, found liable, as it relates to defamation, as well as being a fraudster when it comes to his business. but we're going to sit here and play games, and act like the president's memory is the big

issue. this is a guy who could not recognize his own ex-wife, because he thought that his victim was his ex-wife. so, if we are going to compare, let's go ahead and compare, but let me tell you the big person that matters to most american people. one guy is facing felonies for how he handled documents, another guy is not. that is all that matters. point blank, full stop. >> jasmine crockett, you always bring us the big picture. i thank you for that. good to see you. we'll see you again very soon. >> thank, you alex. >> new today, republican senators on the sunday talk shows are dismissing claims that donald trump owes their party. you're going to hear arguments later on. going to hear argumtn later on. >> woman: what's my safelite story? i'm a photographer. and when i'm driving, i see inspiration right through my glass. so when my windshield cracked, it had to be fixed right. i scheduled with safelite autoglass. their experts replaced my windshield and recalibrated my car's advanced safety system. ♪ acoustic rock music ♪

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>> now to some more breaking news, -- the first phone call in over three weeks. president biden warning prime minister benjamin netanyahu that israel's plan for the ground invasion of the seven city of rafah should not proceed without a clear plan

for safely evacuate the civilians sheltering there. today, netanyahu is pledging a sikh evacuation for the million palestinians in rafah head of a ground assault, as air strikes on the city continue. >> rafah is a very small percentage of gaza. i think it's about 10%, 15%. >> the estimates -- >> it's a north augusta that has already been cleared. the areas that we've cleared, north of rafah, plenty of areas there. we are working on a detailed plan to do so. that is what we've done up until now. we are not cavalier about this. this is part of our war efforts, to get civilians out of harm's. why is part of hamas's effort to keep them in harm's way. >> this all is coming as world leaders are warning of an impending humanitarian catastrophe of israel carries out its planned operation -- >> matt, what is the story happening in rafah? and netanyahu pledging safe

passage for palestinians at the aerosols continue, right? >> that's right. we've been seeing those aerosols for the last two weeks. when you talk about world leaders warned of a impending humanitarian catastrophe in rafah, it's not just them, it's eight agencies, the united nations, everyone is saying, this could be a massive disaster. including, now, israel's diplomatic partners in the middle east. we've just heard, and this is reported by the associated press, that egypt has said it might suspend its peace treaty with israel. this was the first peace treaty israel had in any of his neighbors, ever. if they proceed with their plan, in rafah. that could really upend a lot of the peace and stability in the middle east, as we know. if they go through with that, that peace treaty, which has been around for decades, has been a linchpin of security in the middle east. we're talking about two u.s. allies, egypt and israel, both coming to a rupture over this plan to go into rafah. and of course, we have heard several days ago, from joe biden, that israel's operations in the gaza strip, quote, over the top.

we have just heard a little bit of reaction from netanyahu in that same interview. the fact is, we are hearing from all palestinians on the, ground our team in the gaza strip, who have been working tirelessly to get information for, us in video, they have been saying about the situation, there is completely devastated. when benjamin netanyahu say these palestinians are in rafah, more than half of the population on the gaza strip where they're now. they can simply move north. it clearly isn't that simple. we've been hearing from a lot of palestinians in rafah, who said that they have already been displaced, once, twice, three, four times from elsewhere in the gaza strip. now, they are being asked to be displaced again. they came to rafah to seek refuge and safety. the israelis told them that they would find it there. a lot of them are worried that they will be displaced finally, completely, permanently, just like the nakba back in 1948. that was the violence forceable displacement of palestinians throughout what is now israel and the palestinian territory.

this is something that is still a looming fear for so many palestinians, that they would be displaced, and they will never be able to go back. they point to netanyahu's comments as proof. >> for good reason. bradley, thank you so much from tel aviv. if you thought the colorado ballot story felt over after the supreme court arguments, hold on, there is more. even another wrinkle today. is even another wrinkle today. to severe plaque psoriasis or active psoriatic arthritis, symptoms can sometimes take you out of the moment. now there's skyrizi, so you can show up with clearer skin... ...and show it off. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ with skyrizi, you could take each step with 90% clearer skin. and if you have psoriatic arthritis, skyrizi can help you get moving with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur.

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generous world. it's great to see you again. so, look, with the decision today unrealistic, coloradans to request their mail-in ballots, they're probably not going to know the course decision until after they have them. so talk about the complicated timing around this. colorado, 14 other states, holding their primaries in three weeks on super tuesday. how is this uncertainty complicating logistics? >> thanks for having me on, alex. in colorado, we've sent a mail ballot to every registered voter. overseas and military voters, their ballots already went down in january. coloradans will be sent their ballots starting on monday, but they'll go out by friday, so next week. i do think that it's important that the supreme court provides clarity as soon as it can. now, what they're two days after all earl arguments is a bit too much to ask, we shall

see. ultimately, coloradans need to know what they're a vote for donald trump will count, and americans the to know whether the supreme court is going to allow an insurrectionist to be president again. >> after the oral arguments on thursday, the courts are going to allow trump to remain on the ballots. you were at the supreme court on thursday. what conclusion did you draw about where the justices were leaning? you made your points very clear, but from what you heard, i how do you think it's leaning? >> well, we always knew going into this case that this supreme court is not a friend to voting rights, democracy, or fundamental freedoms. it was really striking to me that the focus on not allowing states to execute our authority under the constitution. alex, what is so striking about this whole thing is that the court literally just rolled back freedom for women in this

country by striking down roe. on the flight back last night, from d.c., i sat next to a woman whose daughter had and and topic pregnancy and d.c.. and that's, by itself, is so concerning. it's so hard to go through those ordeals. but to have a supreme court that has said that they do not care about the lives of women across the country, that is totally up to states to decide whether women have to bleed out impala parking lots before getting health care. at the same time, pleading in our case, states are not poised to make very specific decisions about their elections. it just seems hypocritical, but also, we need to wait to see what the supreme court rules, and where they go. >> you touched on this, but throughout those arguments, the justices barely touched on the issue of the court the case.

whether trump participated in an insurrection. why was that critical component downplayed? >> you, know they don't want to talk about the big elephant in the room. we are only in this case, we were only before the supreme court because this is an unprecedented situation. we typically do not have insurrectionist presidents trying to steal the election, incite violent mobs, and people running with members. some of which are coming to hang the vice president of the united states. i think the supreme court did not want to touch the fact that donald trump is in insurrectionist. and two, and to a large extent, it's a shame. section three of the 14th amendment, section that we believe bars trump from running for office again, is there to protect our nation from insurrectionists taking office.

it is there because of the scenario of people like donald trump, realizing that's the people who have no loyalty to this country, they have proven themselves to be insurrectionists, they are dangerous if they take office again. they can destroy our nation from within. so it wasn't unexpected, but i do think it's sad that the supreme court did not get into the actual substance. that is donald trump inciting an insurrection. >> let's get down to some nitty- gritty, because you also said you hoped the justices, quote, see through trump's lies, and decide that states can keep disqualifying candidates own ballots. states have different election rules, though. a presidential candidates be on the ballot in one state, and not on another, would that undermined the legitimacy of a national election? >> i don't think it would. to tell, you that happens literally all of the time.

there is a candidate in this election cycle who is not a natural born citizen. he is not qualified to be president under the constitution. he is not on the ballot in some states, like colorado, because we only put eligible candidates on our ballots. and he is on ballots and other states that have decided that everyone gets to go on. so that is how our system has worked for over a century. it is not unique. ultimately, the united states constitution gives states the ability to, and authority, to run our elections. states like colorado believe that it is confusing, and potentially suppressive, to put a candidate on a ballot who cannot assume office. that is why, just like that non natural born citizen, we have donald trump -- he is disqualified and from our perspective, under the constitution, for been a

insurrectionist. >> jenna griswold, i know you're going to be waiting on pins and needles to see how this all goes down. thank you for spending time with us. good to see you. coming up next, donald trump's grip on the gop, with apologies to recast lay. republicans are never going to give trump up. they're never going to let him down. they're never going to run around and desert him. we're going to have a very important question here. so does my next guest. why? that's next. next guest. why? that's next. not you. you! your business bank account with quickbooks money now earns 5% apy. (♪♪) that's how you business differently. intuit quickbooks. ♪♪ ugh! nope! try my old spice you can use it on your pits, chest, and even, your... toes? [both] oh that's fresh! ♪♪ ♪ old spice whistle ♪ [toilet flushing] when dehydration gets real... ♪♪ hey! that's mine.

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former president, donald trump,'s grip on the republican party is actually stronger than ever. two examples, senator tom cotton, of the last week's failed border deal, and senator marco rubio, defending trump's nato comments. >> what do you make of this argument, that he's essentially taken away your autonomy as a senator? >> not at all, shannon, what president trump said about this bill is what -- all the four republican senators saw, which is that it does not solve the problem. >> donald trump was president, he didn't pull aside nato. in, fact american troops are stationed throughout -- as they are now. he saw an historic. trump is not a member of the council foreign relations. he doesn't talk about a conditional politician. >> mark leave of its top is this very topic a new column, the staff writer at the atlantic. msnbc political contributor. he's joining me right now. lots to get into, mark. let's go. in your latest piece, it's titled the validation brigade salutes trump. you write about how trump would

not exist where it not for republicans who continue to fall in line, like joining a grocery store line, and you write this. you can scoff at the clown assistance of sycophancy that he shows with the ramaswamy, stop symphonic wing of the hippodrome. in a sense, the innocuous statements from the periphery, such as -- they are more stupefied. of, course you're referring to senator should, pinot the republican of west virginia that endorsed trump two weeks ago on next. in a post you described as a dutiful entry in a diary. lost a top. about, so tell us your thoughts on all of this. >> basically, my thoughts on the sort of trucks to the marco rubio clips you showed, which is i still, to the state, don't think that enough attention is paid to the people in the republican party who know better. obviously, we hear all about trump and why he is, and all the average he perpetrates. there have been endless mystery and theorizing about why people continue to support, and my

voters continue to like, and what his appeal as. ultimately, i would really focus on this piece, i try to focus on the people who know better. these are leaders of the republican party, punitive leaders of the republican party, who, you know, have we, can week, out seen these our, just know there are wages, and yet still has to use these tortured logic things. yeah, i can almost certainly guarantee you that marco rubio, tom cotton, and any other number of people who have endorsed donald trump over the last few weeks, have privately said, look, what are you going to do? i have no option here. of course, they do have an option, which is why nikki haley is still running, and why any number of other republicans can still be leading this party. and yet, this person still- less. i think it would be very interesting to know if all these other leaders had their way at the whites like over the last years, and continue to, remarkably, to this day, what this will look like. >> look, you have talked about how trump knows exactly how to exploit weakness and people,

and political parties. we have had some republicans who admit they're wrong, to support chris christie, for one. you have written about him in a speech, talk to us more about this exploitation of weaknesses that trump has mastered over the republican party. why are more republicans either don't realize, it and pushback, or, they do realize, it and just without, like you suggested. >> two key words there are whip out, basically. autocracies, dictatorships, they don't happen because of 1%. they happen because of people who go along. i'm not talking about the masses to go along, i'm talking about the previous leaders, the leaders around him who know what they are capable of, and what they are still capable of. so, look, i remember seven, eight years ago, back when donald trump was still talking to reporters like me, he said that if there's one thing i've, notice it's that politicians, compared real, estate

entertainment people, other industries at work done, they're incredibly weak. i think he is shown again and again that he can exploit weakness, and politicians, because he initially sort of theorized, they are, week they have rolled over at every turn. i don't know if the democrats are capable of doing something similar, although it is an exercise at this point. clearly the republican party, after so many, years and so much damage, remains in the thrall of the sky. that is the prevailing dynamic. >> let me pick up on the damage. let's say republican leadership moved away from the sky. hasn't been too much damage done with the public, will they follow, or has he captivated the public? >> i think the party, without him, at this point, there is a lot of theorizing that if donald trump won, it would be a natural, you know, someone else would take over in the party, the character of the party has changed so radically. i don't, actually by that.

i think donald trump is such a singular, almost generous figure at this point. when you, see ron desantis is like another person who's going to take over, or don jr., or so- and-so. they fall away. the party has no center, and he continues to fill the vacuum that is, you know, whatever it is the core of the republican party, if there is that. so i think the weakness continues very much at the core of this. that is what he's able to continue to keep supporting, or keep perpetrating what he does. >> it's an extraordinary piece in the atlantic, and people can seek it out. always good to see, my friend. thank you. there is more than one reason why people are excited about the super bowl today. we're going to tell you about it next. super bowl today. we're going to tell you about it next. you ready? surprise! i don't think you can clear this. i got this.

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and if we had to bet on the winner, most not all, there are odds on the 49ers, despite the chiefs status as defending champs. and the nfl itself is doing a bit of a preamble on his own today. this year in las vegas -- nbc's steve patterson is in las vegas where all the action is. steve, welcome. we had some great stuff yesterday. what about today with las vegas synonymous with the gambling, of course, how is the city preparing for the biggest sports day and the biggest sports betting day of the year? >> reporter: i mean, first of all, it's crazy that i'm standing here outside of the super bowl. that's one thing, for me personally. it's also crazy that i'm standing outside of that super bowl in las vegas. keep in mind, the nfl wanted nothing to do with the city for the longest time. they didn't want a team here. they did not want to associate with this because they did not want to associate with sports betting for the sanctity and the integrity of the game. looking at the numbers, it's easy to see why that has changed. an estimated 70 million americans set to bet on this

game alone. 115 million bet on some sports in 2023. that is 23 billion dollars in bets, somewhere around that area. it is a lot of money so the nfl now is partnering with these sports books to get on some action, to cash in, if you will . and a lot of the sports people we spoke to here, some of the biggest one, circa and others, say they are excited that the nfl has turned over a new leaf and made this partnership or. here's what they told me about how the city is preparing, to answer your question, listen to this. >> the nfl is implicitly acknowledging the somebody ought to creation ship between what we do and what they do and how fans love both. and so, we are bringing it together in a legitimate way. >> you want to be part of the action so if you can't go to the game, the next best place is betting in the sports book. and this is where all the action is gonna be, wall-to- wall in silence.

>> reporter: and of course, what is so interesting is everything that people bet on. you've heard it, obviously, you know, the traditional gamblers are going to bet on the line, on the spread, on the score. but there is also prospects like the color of the gatorade, coin toss, a lot of people are into taylor swift bets. most of this are below board. it has to be on the field. back to you, alex. >> and you are talking about whether or not travis might propose to taylor's today. can we get some data little longer, please, i'm just reminding folks of that. all right, my friend, have fun. i can tell you are already having it. in moments, we're gonna unpack three big headlines, one about why today is a key day in the 14th amendment fight. and another about what the colorado oral argument missed, the author of this article is going to join me. plus, what is really at stake in new york's special election. ♪ ♪ ♪ and i bet you a good day from msnbc world headquarters here in your. welcome to