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and israel passes a key hurdle in the senate, as donald trump says he would let russia attack americas nato allies if they don't pay up. senator chris van hollen of the senate foreign relations committee joins me live to discuss that and much more. marriage equality milestone. california governor gavin newsom tells me about the moment he went rogue, 20 years ago tomorrow, when he was mayor of san francisco and issue the city's first of same-sex marriage licenses. and rethinking the working class. a closer look at why the phrase working class voters has become synonymous with the whites, and why black voters need to be included in this political conversation. but -- joins me live to discuss her powerful new book. i am jonathan capehart. this is the sunday show.

given what is happening tonight, if you are watching right now, i just love you. we begin this sunday with the senate hard at work and making progress tonight. senators are scrambling to finish a 95 billion dollar aid package for ukraine, israel, and taiwan. the measure survived a key vote this afternoon after an impassioned plea for republican support from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> our partners don't have the luxury of pretending that the world's most dangerous aggressors are someone else's problem. and neither do we. so, today, it is no exaggeration to say that the eyes of the world are on the united states senate. >> 18 republicans ultimately joined senate democrats to advance the bill. the senate foreign aid package could come up for a final vote as soon as tuesday. later this month, it will be

two years since russia invaded and unleashed war on ukraine. standing with ukraine in this fight is vital, as president biden has said numerous times. this is a battle between democracy and autocracy. if democracy fails in ukraine, and then democracy is in danger elsewhere. in europe. which is why donald trump's comments last night about nato are beyond alarming. at a campaign rally, trump said, if nato allies fell behind on member payments, he would refuse to protect them from a russian attack. the republican presidential primary front runner even said he would encourage the kremlin to invade those nato members. listen for yourself. >> one of the presidents of the big countries, sir, if we don't pay and we are attacked by russia, will you protect us? i said, you didn't pay, you are delinquent. he said, yes. let's say that happened.

no, i would not protect. you in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever they want. you've got to pay. you've got to pay your bills. >> trump's mafia boss like promise would be a clear violation of article five of the nato treaty. an attack on one ally is an attack on al. article five has been invoked only once in the alliances 74 year history. after the united states was attacked on september 11th. the secretary general of nato condemned trump's comments, and the white house released a statement calling trump's remarks appalling and unhinged, and accusing trump of, quote, promoting deranged chaos. the ranged chaos is actually the perfect description of what trump has already unleashed on congress. the reason the senate is voting on a separate foreign aid bill now is because trump convinced republicans to kill the broader legislation that combined ukraine aid with a border security bill jammed with

republican priorities. it is all so insane. but not as insane as the house republican majority trying for a second time to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas for what they say are his failures at the southern border. never mind their first attempt last week failed. there is only one way to solve the crisis at the border. and today, on meet the press, secretary mayorkas said exactly who is a responsibility that is. >> it certainly is a crisis. we don't bear a sponsor realty for a broken system. we are doing a tremendous amount within that broken system. but fundamentally, fundamentally, congress is the only one that can fix it. >> joining me now, democratic senator chris van hollen of maryland. he's a member of the senate foreign relations committee. senator, thank you for coming to the sunday show. your reaction first to trump's nato comments. >> jonathan, great to be with

you. sometimes we think donald trump no longer has the capacity to shock us with his comments. but this was just outrageous. for somebody who is running, once again, to be president of the united states, to say that not only would he not come to defend one of our allies if they had not put it enough for their own defense, but that he would actively encourage putin to attack one of our nato allies. so this obviously will send shockwaves, not just to our nato allies in europe, but people around the world. president xi jinping of china is keeping one eye on ukraine as he keeps one eye on taiwan. , those folks who claim that they are tough on china, but they are weak on ukraine, it doesn't compute. it doesn't need to compute for ukraine, it doesn't compute anywhere in the world.

this is a shocking comment from somebody who's shocking comments we have sometimes gotten used to. >> and we need to take him seriously. senator, bring us up to speed on where things stand right now with the foreign aid package. >> the good news is it did clear another hurdle today. this is the bill that concludes the desperately needed assistance for ukraine. the past 67 to 27. we have one more hurdle on the way to final passage. that could come monday evening. -- shorten that time period. the good news, jonathan, is this bill seems on track to get out of the senate with a big bipartisan vote and a lot of momentum. >> you heard minority leader mitch mcconnell's impassioned floor speech today. but is he leader in name only now? isn't donald trump the one calling the shots for republicans in both chambers? >> well, yes he is. and you mentioned that earlier

in terms of the border security issue. as you know, we came up with a bipartisan solution in the united states, a senate. but as soon as donald trump said he was against it, because he wanted to save that issue for the election, for political purse purposes, rather than actually solve it, you saw the speaker of the house first say he was going to vote against it and then senator republican senators followed him. on the ukraine issue, i do think we have more republican support. despite donald trump's recent comments, we still have a chance to get it over the finish line in the house when it gets over there. >> senator, let's turn our attention to israel. president biden had a call with prime minister netanyahu this morning. u.s. officials now say they are on the verge of a hostage deal. what more can you tell us about those negotiations? >> well, we've been working

very actively with president biden to try to achieve a hostage deal. we should prioritize the return of the hostages. i've said we need a cease-fire and a return of the hostages. so i don't know the exact details. i do know that earlier today, prime minister netanyahu talked about the fact that he may launch an invasion of rafah, which is the city in southern gaza which now has more than 1.3 million people. i know president biden has been urging netanyahu not to take that action. it would take an awful situation and make it even more of a nightmare. i hope president biden is able to prevail on netanyahu on that matter. >> on that point, senator, listen to what residents said about the potential of and that move on rafah. >> we've been hearing that they want to come to rafah, just like every city in gaza.

we are so scared, we don't know where to go. >> we have to start our life again, from zero. me and my family started our life from 04 times. >> i mean, you said this is going to be a safe place. how many times did you lie to us about this place being safe and then turning back and bombing us? >> senator, the white house " call with netanyahu -- told the prime minister that he, and i'm quoting, should not proceed without a credible and unexecutable plan for ensuring the safety and support for the more than 1 million people sheltering there. would you support cutting off military aid to israel if netanyahu fails to do what the president asks? >> well, i do think that if in this case prime minister netanyahu to fully extend -- the pleas from president biden, it is certainly the president needs to make it clear that a

u.s. military assistance does not come as a blank check. this is exactly why i proposed an amendment to the national security bill that we are on right now, that we require that every country, including netanyahu's government, that gets use u.s. military systems, has to promise upfront that they will comply with international humanitarian law and promise, upfront, that they will cooperate with humanitarian deliveries of assistance. i do think president biden needs to be tougher with prime minister netanyahu, not just on these phone calls in private, but in public. and we need to make better use of our leverage here. >> i, mean do you agree -- that's what the president did when he had that impromptu press conference thursday night, when he said that the israeli reaction in gaza has been quote, over the top. should he be more blunt like

that in public more frequently? >> the answer is yes, jonathan. i think the president needs to do that. i think these private requests have not more in the results that we need. we continue to see very high levels of civilian casualties. and we continue to see obstruction from netanyahu's government, with respect to the delivery of desperately needed humanitarian assistance. i was just at that rafah border crossing in egypt with my colleague jeff merkley. a number of weeks ago. it was a desperate situation then, and any israeli major offensive in rafah would just create a total humanitarian meltdown and disaster. as those voices said, this was the place that innocent palestinian civilians were told to go to be safe. and, so the population of the city of gaza has virtually

tripled or quadrupled because it's got all these people crammed in a very small space. i think the president needs to be very firm on this. the fact that prime minister and in yahoo went on national american tv today and said, well, he's going to do it anyway, should make president biden even more determined to hold the line here. >> senator, we have less than a minute left. you are the senator from maryland. i can't let you go without asking you about former maryland governor larry hogan just announcing he is running for a senate seat in maryland. marilyn has an elected republican senator in 37 years. he was a very popular governor. have democrats prospects of holding the majority dimmed with his entry into the race? >> they have not deemed. it would be a very tough and competitive race. but i'm quite confident maryland will keep that long record of democratic senators going to the senate in this next election. and the reason i say that it is

that it is one thing to be a governor in the state of maryland, and it's another thing to represent maryland in the united states senate, especially when the senate right now is at 50 50. and larry hogan winning a seat in maryland means mitch connell or ted cruz or josh hawley, or all those folks who will be in the majority, they will control all the committee chairs. and so, that's not something that marylanders are going to want. i'm quite confident in that. >> senator chris van hollen of maryland, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. >> thank you. now to breaking news from the pentagon. defense secretary lloyd austin was transported to walter reed military medical center this afternoon for a bladder issue. a pentagon spokesperson says secretary austin is still performing his official duties from the hospital. recall last month, often revealed he had been diagnosed

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bring back our popular sound off segment with a rock star panel. joining me now, elise jordan, msnbc political analyst, former aide to the george w. bush white house and contributor to time magazine. john right niche, democratic political strategist and managing director at mercury. and renee graham, columnist and associate editor at the boston globe. this is truly a rock star panel. we started by showing that five alarm fire of nonsense, but serious nonsense, from donald trump. now let's look at what marco rubio had to say about it, and then what chris christie had to say about it today. >> he was talking about a story that he talked about happened in the past. by the way, donald trump was president and he did not pull us out of nato. i have zero concern. he's been president before. i know exactly what he has done. >> what poses a national security risk is the possibility that he could be president of the united states again. that is what poses a national security risk. we need to take him at his

word, kristen. donald trump, when he came into office in 2016, was scared. he was afraid to be presidents. as a result, he listened to a lot a very good people around, him general mattis, general kelly, and others, about these issues. in the second term, he would not. >> so, rene, i'm going to start with you. when it comes to rubio and kristie, i am on team christie on this one. >> it's a hard call to make, but i'm right there with you. i am with chris christie on this. marco rubio has zero credibility in this issue. i don't want to hear from marco rubio and what donald trump will and won't do. he made an interesting comment. we saw it when he was president. exactly. this is why we have to be concerned about it, if he is president again. the idea that he is talking about -- you know, using these gangster terms when he refers to nato and other countries. i've always said this, he thinks he is john gotti.

the tabloid babies of 1980's new york, that is exactly what has come, he can shake people die alone and get what he wants. the other thing about it is him saying you've got to pay your bills. we all know that donald trump never pays his bills. >> right. he never pays his bills. i mean, puck meets skillet. at least, you worked in a republican administration. are there any seen republicans elected republicans left? chris christie is not an elected republican anymore, but marco rubio is and he is talking nonsense. >> the attrition right is really high when you look at comments mike gallagher just announced he is not going to run again and that was because he voted not to impeach the homeland security secretary. anytime a republican makes a stand on principle, they find themselves primaried. if you look at someone like marco rubio, who was formerly a

super strong hawk, and now he has descended to this, to defending basically donald trump saying that he supports russia over nato? it's embarrassing. and it is the vp competition right now, and rubio is trying really hard. he is just embarrassing himself, because he's not going to get it at the end of the day. >> right. elise, you just gave me the perfect segue to john ryan-ish, who is coming to us from the great state of new york. one of the people who is considered a front runner, if you, will for the vp selection of donald trump's won at least phonic, the congresswoman from new york. let's remind everybody of who she was and who she is now. >> this has been a truly tragic day for america. americans will always have the freedom of speech and the constitutional right to protest, but violence in any

form is absolutely unacceptable. it is anti-american, and it must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. i have concerns about the treatment of january six hostages. i have concerns, we have a role in congress of oversight, over our treatments of prisoners. i would not have done what mike pence did i think that was the right approach. i specifically standby for what i said on the house floor and i stand by my statement. constitutional overreach. >> john? >> at least just -- watching, and that's exactly what he is doing. she is dancing hard for donald trump. that's her audience of one. she wants to be vice president so badly, jonathan, she can just grab that brass ring, you don't see her getting that brass ring for a variety of different reasons. this evolution she has gone

from being olivia snow the kari lake in almost a couple of years. i think her -- first of all, a lot of republicans are actually very wise to that, because it does not seem genuine. it seems contrived, performative, and theatrical. it's a caricature. if you look at social media, i just drips with this acidic, over the top, contemptuous venom. you know, i think that while there is certainly on the far- right and audience for that, i don't think it is especially believable. in terms of what for her is right now the ultimate price, i don't actually see her getting it. she certainly made herself a star on the far-right. i think this evolution really kicked into gear when she felt this sort of vipers of fame and recognition from the far-right, and that basket approval, that limelight of approval from

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response. >> >> or, well it's coming, i think it's on its way. -- >> what happened to her husband? what happened to her husband? where is he? he's gone. >> it's insulting to military members, it's insulting to military families. and the part that bothers me is, he continues to do this. this isn't personal about me and michael, this is about what it says to every member who sacrifices for us. this is what it says to every military family who sacrifices alongside them. >> and, we have this from president biden. the answer is that major haley's abroad, serving his country right now. we know, meaning trump, he know he thinks our troops are suckers, but this guy would no service to his country that slapped him in the face. renee graham? >> you know there's two things. >> one, the idea that donald trump, how much nikki haley has

gotten under his incredibly thin skin has really been something to behold. he is leading her in the polls. in her home state by a significant portion. and he still keeps talking as if they are running neck and neck. the other part of it though is, i am completely unsympathetic to nikki haley. when donald trump is running in 2015, she was absolutely against donald trump. of course then, she turned around him became his ambassador, and that wonderful things to say about him. now, she is back on the trump's terrible -- this is the shape shifting of nikki haley. and this is kind of what she gets. she wouldn't go after trump or early in this election and now she is trying to do this thing, and he is coming after her. you know, she knew who donald trump was he has not changed. she has shifted the way the winds have gone. this is what she gets. what he said was disgusting and irrational, but this is what she set herself up for. >> john, i see you nodding in agreement.

>> yeah, i of course agree with everything renee said. but, it is actually -- trump does this thing where he sort of suggests an issue, or leads you to word something salacious, but kind of speaks around it, so that you can fill it in with your own nasty thoughts. he excels at that. but, look i think nikki haley, maybe purposely -- maybe has missed the point. here -- where his military service, he was making a jive and a very suggestive, one about their marriage and their relationship. what you are supposed to think is not oh, has he gone out for a quart of milk, or is he traveling on business. he's suggesting that he's running around on her, or something like that. so, we've seen him do this before, it's all one personal nasty attack after another. he has always been the same person. >> at least, thoughts?

>> it's exactly what i would expect -- what we see is what we get. and if he wins reelection, or if he gets elected for a second time i guess it's not technically reelection. but it will be truly horrible, and i don't know that american democracy could survive. it's not even what he said about major haley, which is horrible. donald trump has no appreciation at all for service, and he constantly belittles the men and women of our military. but it's bigger than that, it's how he sees america's role in the world. and how he sees the commander- in-chief balancing that power. and it's putrefying, frankly. >> i'm going to switch gears, i intentionally saved this for the second to last. because the whole conversation about president biden's mental acuity, just sort of sends me off the deep end, because i just think it is a republican narrative that far too many people are playing into. that being said, listen to what

secretary mayorkas had to say on meet the crest -- and what senator of miss -- had to say on face the nation, in defending the president. >> i have met with the president many, many times over the course of the past three years. i prepared intensely for those meetings, i follow-up intensely from those meetings, to make sure that i deliver the answers to the question that he has posed. he is probing and detailed, and focus on the mission. i know that he is ready for this campaign, i have seen how effective he has been up close and personal. and i am not going to let my constituents be distracted by a special prosecutor who is trying to gain favor within the maga movement. >> now, i know what you are thinking viewer, for those of you who are watching. of course they are going to say that. one guy is in the cabinet, the other guy is a member of the presidents party, a democrat. okay, well hold my beer. listen to israeli prime

minister benjamin netanyahu today, on this week. >> i've had more than a dozen phone conversations, extended phone conversations with president biden. he also came on a visit to israel during war time, which is a -- . and i found him very clear, and very focused. >> all right john, everybody knows that president biden and prime netanyahu are not the best of friends even though they have known each other for decades. please, i would love for all of you to weigh in on this. but john you go first. am i wrong in thinking that yeah, the president's old, trump is old. but can we move on and talk about what one is saying he would actually do if he gets a another shot at the white house, and what president biden has actually done, even though he is 81 years old? >> yeah, yes that would be nice. i also do want to point out, i saw some data recently,

reported of negative stories about biden's age, and how long they have been playing out, and the negative stories about trump's age, and trump sounds like a rambling, incoherent, mentally unstable maniac. however, it is reported, it is never report that way. so i just want to point out, those sound completely biased, the coverage is, and just how completely disproportionate it is. however, i will say this to. how nice of benjamin netanyahu to really vouch for joe biden with friends like these, et cetera, et cetera. but i will also say this, the cleanup from secretary mayorkas -- the cleanup from senator murphy, is -- after the fact. i still think democrats have a messaging problem, both especially the secretary, who sounded profit surreal, it was not a -- we not just defense of the president, but also the

absolute necessity to frame the other guy to. to constantly frame president trump, and at least get this conversation to -- a >> all right, we've got way less than a minute. but i want at least and renee to get in there. ilyse, real quick. >> i really totally disagree, i think that now we are taking benjamin netanyahu at his word? he -- it's like giving him free reign to do whatever he wants, blowing up gaza, he loves it. he's not pushing back at all against benjamin netanyahu. so i think to take that as a sign of biden's mental acuity. and i also think that at the end of the, day something like what, 80% of the country questions his age? that is something they have to overcome, and you have to dress the reality, or otherwise it is a dereliction of duty by the democrats, not having a candidate who could beat donald trump. >> and renee graham? >> it's a distraction, it needs to be addressed.

but let's be really clear, that was not merely a special counsels -- that was robert hur's additional -- to beat donald trump's attorney general, if trump manages to win in november. and that is exactly the way democrats need to frame this. this was politically motivated, and they need to confront it directly. >> you are all correct. at least, jordan -- renee graham, thank you all very much for coming to the sunday show. >> and coming up, my one-on-one conversation with california governor gavin newsom, on this historic decision 20 years ago tomorrow, to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples when he was mayor of san francisco. the opposition he thanked -- he faced from both republicans and democrats, and how his actions changed the fight for marriage equality -- that's next. fight e equality -- that's next.

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union, i was at a reception before, with nancy pelosi. and i was going to leave and she said hey do you want to watch? i said oh i want to watch it on tv. i looked up and she said no, live. and -- gave me a pause or something. and i go, i'm surrounded by a lot of conservative because there is a lot of standing ovations. and then it ended with this crescendo about how we need to preserve the sanctity of marriage between a manned and a woman. and the enhancement of the constitutional amendment to codify that. and that was fine, it didn't trigger anything, until i am leaving. and i'm standing in the line, and i listened to two people who are so proud of their president, who said isn't it great that he is going after that homosexual agenda? and i remember the way they said homosexual. and i remember returning and they didn't know me from adam as the mayor of san francisco. but literally, it was that moment that i grabbed that cell phone, and instead of going to a post reception, i went to that same hotel, but i did so

with intention -- and said we need to do something about this. >> and so then, you started issuing marriage licenses. a few weeks later, it causes a firestorm. folks are coming here to city hall by the droves, and getting married. it is joyous. but, there were, democrats and republicans who were. they were really upset with you. >> democrats. >> literally democrats in a presidential election year. did that, did that factor in at all and maybe even give you pause to take the action that you took? >> well of course it did. a lot of people, who i admire who were heroes of mine -- when i became mayor. they said whatever else you do you've got a moment in time, do what you think is right. the minute i went out and said you know what i think this is the right thing to do, to challenge the state law, because i thought it was unconstitutional, and to put a human face on it by -- who had been together 49, almost half a century, 49 years.

-- love devotion, and -- what it marriage should be about. and the minute i did that they were quick to condemn. and that was very painful. >> and then 11 years later, 11 years later, the country caught up with you, and the supreme court in the obergefell decision made same-sex marriage a constitutional -- >> yeah, and before, that the california supreme court validated this. and it was profound, and it was consequential. and it filled my soul, it changed my life, to see people today who talk about that. this simple thing that we take for granted, just the ability to say i do. and it didn't even -- the greatest memory, i kid you not besides my own kids, was walking outside the front door here, and there was a little girl it was rare i went out during the middle of all these weddings. and this little girl is tugging at me, i looked down and she goes. she looks at me and she goes thank you for giving me to

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the president, -- have been essential to the nation's productivity. and indeed as was demonstrated during the covid pandemic, to its basic functioning. joining me now, blair l and kelly. she is the author of the book black folk, the roots of the black working class. she is also in historian and director of the u.n.c. center for the study of the american south. professor kelly, thank you very much for being here. tell us why and how african americans got left out of the conversation about the american working class. >> that's strange, right. you would see you -- would think that in a country where the nation benefited from enslavement, the inequalities that come from -- that we would remember the labor of black americans, which has been so essential to so many fields for so long. but yet here in and year out when we see elections, and we see a discussion about the working class we go immediately to a white, midwestern working

class, and leave behind a conversation about the historic nature of black laborers in this country. and the contribution they have made. so, it's extraordinary. and we have to do better. >> are there differences professor, in how the white working class and the african american working class votes? >> absolutely. i think, the black working class thinks in a collective fashion. they think about community and in terms of broader than individual rights, but really what is necessary for a community to survive. what is necessary for whole families to thrive. so when we look at the black working class, we see a broader concern beyond the concern around what is your hourly wage. but really what's health care look like what do our schools look like what does neighborhoods look, like what does policing look like?

>> those things matter. >> do we talk about those differences as much as we should? >> no, i don't think we've talked about them much at all. it's really extraordinary in. when i was studying this history in a book that goes back to slavery and through jim crow and studying all of these different professions, there is such a tremendous history, and there is such a tremendous current moment that we are not discussing. i was writing during the pandemic, and you could see that so many of the essential workers folks who never had a day off who continue to work continue to face something that was unknown were black workers, were over represented in those ranks. and it just was a moment when that question just became so important for us to all ask. >> you know you also talk about the misconceptions about trump's voters trump supporters being synonymous with the white working class. tell us more about who is really part of his base? >> trump's voters are,

generally middle class non- college educated whites. it's, we don't see the working class ranks necessarily being connected to him but he has this myth us that is a false one when it comes to the white working class. and so he does attract some of those voters but not in the numbers that we would assume. >> you know one recent survey from the new york federal reserve found that the net worth of white individuals rose by around 30% during the covid pandemic while african americans net worth was stuck at near zero. what do we need to do to fix this wealth disparity? >> this really profound way in which housing the ability to participate in the institutions that help wealthy created overtime. and there were small gains that were made during this time period, with the checks that

came, that really profoundly impacted poverty rates for the working poor. and so we need to make sure that the basic needs are met, so that communities can begin to reinvest in themselves, and we don't push people out and manipulate where they live, and gentrify away neighborhoods that are essential to building that wealth. >> professor blair ellen kelly, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. and congratulations on the book. >> thank you so much for having me. >> and that will do it for me today. thank you for watching, i'll be back next saturday and sunday at six pm eastern right here on msnbc. remember to follow us on x instagram tiktok and threads using the handle at weekend capehart. up next a special edition of the beat with ari melber feature in-depth analysis of the latest and former president trump's legal battles. and for trump's legal battles. ing. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. talk to your doctor about nurtec today. >> woman: what's my safelite story? talk to your doctor i'm a photographer. and when i'm driving,

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