good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. classified and crucial, the legal fight right now in florida about the classified documents found at mar-a-lago. former president trump is there as the judge is faced with a decision that could have enormous impact on the case. a harrowing hostage rescue after 128 days in captivity. the emotional reunion in israel

after troops stormed an apartment in the city of raffa in southern gaza. exclusive nbc news reporting on president biden's angry assessment of prime minister netanyahu. plus, global outrage after former president trump threatens that he would encourage russia to attack nato allies. the collective indifference we're seeing from some corners of power in the republican party. a lot to get to today. we start with donald trump, showing up in person at a closed-door hearing in the mar-a-lago case, one focused on the critical questions surrounding the most important evidence there is. the classified documents themselves. trump's attorneys, instructed by judge aileen cannon to lay out their defense in detail and are expected to push for as much access as they can get, insisting they just can't build their defense without seeing the documents in their entirety. the special counsel's team which will meet with the judge later today is expected to argue for

redacting some of that information or even withholding it altogether out of concern for national security. i want to bring in host of the the katie phang show, katie phang, also with us senior msnbc political analyst matthew dowd. onset msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. katie, i know the hearing is sealed. what do we think is happening behind closed doors and why did former president trump decide to show up? i don't think he had to be there. >> reporter: you are correct, chris. former president donald trump did not have to appear in court today. in fact, it's the first time donald trump has attended any of the hearings in the classified documents case except for his first appearance at the very beginning of the case which we know was last year. donald trump, along with defense counsel as well as counsel for his co-defendants walt nauta and carlos de oliveira arguing from

9:30 to 2:00 what their theory is, cifa, classified information procedures act allows the government for withholding the deletion or redaction of certain classified information on the basis that it's not only irrelevant, but it's not helpful to the defense. from 3:00 to 5:00 special counsel jack smith's team has the opportunity to meet with judge cannon again. the reason why i say it's again, chris, is because on january 31st, jack smith's team met with judge cannon for three hours in order to explain why certain buckets of classified information needed to be treated in certain ways. like i mentioned a minute ago, the ideas of redactions, deletions or substitutions. this is the discovery process at this time, chris. discovery has to be met in terms of certain legal standards and there will be a separate evaluation of the use of classified information as we get closer to trial. >> lisa, the charges against trump focus on 31 document some

are secret. others are top secret, which is obviously a much higher classification. that's just a fraction of the number of documents that were seized at mar-a-lago. how does this process work now? do they go over each and every page? what do you imagine the conversation is like? >> let's go back a second first. you mentioned there were 31 documents at issue and several hundred seize friday mar-a-lago. the range of classified documents in the case in terms of what would ordinarily be in discovery is in the range of about 5,500 pages. right now the government wants to withheld all of that from walt ngata and carlos de oliveira. walt nauta was a naval officer stationed in the white house during the trump presidency. i think there are two sets of arguments going on. in terms of the they are going page by page, i doubt even with the three-hour hearing that they

had that katie was referring to, that they could have done that. in all likelihood what they did was present to her categories of arguments, here are documents where we have to, for example, take out a precise date or a reference to a particular country by name. here are documents we want to withhold in their entirety, here are some documents where we can release some information, but not all. some of those arguments will cut differently for donald trump than they do for nauta and de oliveira. we're talking about discovery and not use of trial which is part of the classified procedures act which is yet to be litigated. i think it's up to the judge to determine how much she credits the government's representations about the damage to national security that would be done with respect to the revolution of that information. now, all the defendants in this

case are subject to what are called protective orders. those are rules governing what they can do with discovery, and they are not allowed to disclose classified information. even donald trump can't review classified information outside of what's called a skiff or a secure facility for the review of this information. we know he's been to a skiff once, maybe not more than once, prior to today's hearing. today's hearing is taking place in a skiff. but one of the things that's going to be at issue, can donald trump and his lawyers be entrusted with some of this information even if the access means reviewing it and even discussing it solely in that skiff. that's something judge cannon is going to have to decide. >> matthew, the trump team has been arguing this case is an example of him being singled out for selective prosecution. in the most recent filing on friday they brought up the hur report. they wrote, quote, president biden will not be charged and

president trump should not have been either. of course, even robert hur himself went out of his way to point out how the two cases are very different. do you think that matters, any of that matters for the sake of trump's public argument? >> no. facts never matter for trump's public arguments. evidence and facts are never part of his equation. i think what we've seen -- donald trump benefits right now, especially among republican primary voters, from basically the defend donald group of people, any time he's attacked they circle the wagons and he builds support. to me what's happening here is there's two clocks that donald trump seems to understand very well. there's the political clock and there's the legal clock. what donald trump is trying to do is stay in line with the political clock so he outruns the legal clock.

if the legal clock is ahead of the political clock and he gets convicted before election day, he knows that's a loser. he's trying to keep the political clock ahead of the legal clock. as long as he can do that and extend this as far out to election day and not get convicted, he believes that's a winner. >> which brings us to another case. katie, i want to shift to trump's push for immunity from federal prosecution. this is the deadline for him to appeal the federal appeals court ruling and try to get the supreme court to weigh in. that appeals court ruling was unanimous. it rejected trump's immunity claims. what do you imagine is his best argument on appeal? what are you looking for? >> reporter: for former president trump, his best arguments to the supreme court are going to be, hey, not only did the trial court get it wrong, but the d.c. circuit court of appeals got it wrong. i think he's going to rely upon the crux of his case which is that, one, article three courts,

the judiciary, they can't tell the executive branch what to do. the decisions a president has to be made sometimes within a vacuum and sometimes within the discretion of the president to do it. to second-guess it in terms of the judiciary is not right. i think another argument he's going to try to tell the supreme court, there's an impeachment judgment clause. basically the senate has to impeach and convict me before i can face criminal prosecution, and that is going to be i think the strongest argument that he can make. we've seen he's tested them already with tanya chutkan and lost. he tested them with a three-panel d.c. circuit court of appeals and he lost there unanimously. it's a really big question for the supreme court whether or not they want to take this case up on appeal. >> lisa, assuming trump appeals and we assume that's what's going to happen, what are you watching for? >> i'm looking for face. what he's filing today isn't petition for review by the supreme court. it's just a motion to stay

proceedings down below pending his application for review. he wants to buy himself even more time to submit that appeal. so everything that i'm looking for is about timing. this week is a huge week for donald trump in terms of timing. not only do we have the supreme court potentially making a ruling about whether they're going to hear this immunity appeal and on what timeline, but on thursday, he'll be in a new york court on the hush money case where a judge is expected to set the trial date there. there's a lot going on for trump this week that will tell us what the calendar is going to look like. to matthew's point, whether the legal and political will converge or diverge and in what direction. >> lisa rubin, katie phang, thank you both. matthew, you're staying with us. major developments today in the israel-hamas war, a hostage rescue plus exclusive nbc news reporting on what president biden is saying about prime minister netanyahu in private. i minister netanyahu in private. introducing ned's plaque psoriasis.

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we're learning more about the shooting at joel osteen's lakewood church in houston. law enforcement telling nbc news the assault-style rifle used had the word palestine written on it, and the shooter has been identified as 36-year-old janessa yvonne moreno, a transgender woman with multiple prior arrests. a child and a man were injured in that shooting. two officers who were off duty retired fire and killed the suspect. we'll have more on this story as it comes in to us. for the first time since october, israel just succeeded in rescuing two kidnapped hostages from gaza. officials there say idf forces killed dozens of refugees in the process. in a little over an hour, president biden will welcome the king to jordan to discuss the crisis in gaza.

as the world watches joyful reunion scenes of pure relief, they're contrasted by devastated moments of mourning in raffa. nbc news exclusively reports president biden is growing increasingly frustrated with benjamin netanyahu even calling him an a-hole multiple times. raf sanchez is reporting from tel aviv. carol lee worked on that reporting. tell us more about what you learned? >> what we learned, chris, privately the president in recent weeks has been complaining about prime minister netanyahu, has been venting his frustrations he has with him including to donors at campaign fundraisers, and part of what the president is saying, according to people who have heard him make these comments, is that netanyahu is, quote, giving him hell, that he's impossible to deal with, that

he's trying to get israel toward a cease-fire but netanyahu continues to be standing in the way of that. we're also told on at least three instances the president referred to netanyahu as an a-hole. that's according to three people who heard the president say that. all of that is happening behind the scenes while we've seen the president ramp up rhetoric towards israel's military operations in gaza, including last week, saying it was over the top. we have not seen, chris, any change in policy towards israel when it comes to decisions that the president is making. so the president is making these comments behind the scenes. one of the things we learned, chris, that he's saying is that he feels like, if he went too hard publicly at prime minister netanyahu, that that would be counterproductive. what this shows is that the president is increasingly frustrated. this has been building for months, but it's really on his mind. he's talking about it quite a bit and including to people who

are -- >> i want to interrupt you if i can, carol. white house national security communications adviser john kirby is talking about this. let's listen. >> -- go into raffa to remove hams, how are they supposed to remove hamas -- >> we never said they can't go into raffa to remove hamas. hamas remains a threat to the people. we don't want to see another october 7th. what we said is we don't believe it's advisable to go in in a major way in raffa without a proper, executable, effective and credible plan for the safety of the more than a million palestinians that are taking refuge in raffa. they left the north and went south out of khan yunis to get out of the fighting. israel has an obligation to protect them. >> yesterday senior administration officials say the

framework -- there were gaps remaining. can you provide clarification on what remaining gaps there are and on which side of the conflict those gaps are? >> i'm sure you can understand i'm not going to get into the details of the negotiations. we do believe, as i've said before, that there has been constructive progress towards triing to get a deal in place for an extended pause in getting all the hostages out. it's not done. nothing is really negotiated until everything is negotiated. those conversations are ongoing now. it would be really irresponsible for me to get into the details. >> we're going to continue to listen to this. he made the transition for us, raf, so i'm going to go to you when he was talking about negotiations for a hostage deal. we're learning more today about the two hostages who have been reunited with their families. what do we know about them and is the number correct, 134 people now that the idf says are still being held in gaza? >> reporter: 134 hostages still being held in gaza, chris,

according to the israeli military. not all of them alive. israel assesses more than 20 of them are dead. two of those hostages did come out live today. their names are fernando marman and lois har. they spent 129 days in captivity. that captivity came to an end at 1:49 a.m. local time this morning when israeli special forces burst into the second floor apartment of a building in raffa all the way down in the south of gaza where, according to the israeli military, these two hostages were being held by three armed hamas guards. these commanders killed the guards, carried the hostages back down the stairs. they were taken by helicopter into israel, and they are said to be in good condition, treating at a hospital in the

tel aviv area. i want you to listen to what fernando's niece said about being reunited with her uncle. >> yeah, okay. now they are walking, a bit thin, thinner. all the 134 hostages will be free. we will fight for their freedom. it was very emotional to see them, to hug them, to feel them. it feels almost unreal. >> reporter: so, chris, a real feeling of joy, of celebration here in israel today. as you said, these are only the second and third hostages rescued successfully by the israeli military since october 7th. there was that tragedy last year, israeli forces killing three hostages as they tried to come out with their hands up waving a white flag believing that they were so close to being

rescued, only to be killed by their own side. there is mourning in gaza today. the hamas-run health ministry says at least 66 palestinians were killed in israeli air strikes as israeli aircraft were covering the retreat of these commandos during that mission. a number of civilians among the dead. raffa's one really functioning hospital absolutely overwhelmed by the wounded. as you said, chris, there is a lot of fear and consternation in raffa tonight that there's a looming israeli offensive heading towards that city where more than half the population of gaza is sheltering, many of people people who had been displaced many times already. >> raf sanchez, carol lee, thank you. shock waves in europe after former president trump's controversial comments about nato and vladimir putin. the national security risks at home and concern over what it could mean for u.s. service members abroad next. ice members abroad next.

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just moments ago during the white house press briefing national security communications advisor john kirby addressed defense secretary austin's hospitalization. it is his third since the end of december, the first since new protocols were put in place after he failed to notify the white house of a previous hospital stay. here is john kirby. >> secretary austin is back in the hospital. we wish him well.

he's had to cancel a trip this week to europe, another gathering of the ukraine contract group which he could attend virtually if he wanted to. first of all, has the president spoken to secretary austin since he was hospitalized? >> i'm not aware of any conversations since this just happened yesterday. >> does the president have any concerns that with his medical problems that the secretary can no longer serve? >> not at all. >> there were conversations last week about the president saying -- >> meantime, today there are new security fears at home and abroad after donald trump's comments bashing nato while praising russian dictator vladimir putin. >> one of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by russia, will you protect us? i said, you didn't pay, you're delinquent. he said, yes. let's say that happened. no, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. you've got to pay, you've got to

pay your bills. >> while a few of trump's republican supporters criticized his comments, politico reports, for example, that rand paul called it a stupid thing to say. none are expressing the levels of concerns flashed across hid lines, how trump's words have rekindled european fears and even put u.s. soldiers at increased risk. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill. matthew dowd back was. evelyn farkas, executive direct tower of the mccain institute and former advisor to the supreme allied commander. any suggestion that allies will not defend each other undermines all of our security including that of the u.s. and puts american and european soldiers at increased risk. do you share those concerns sdm. >> absolutely. i would say this is not stupid -- i mean it's stupid, but it's dangerous and unpatriotic. i even saw someone refer to it

as treacherous or treasonous. this will put potentially u.s. troops even in harm's way because it's tempting vladimir putin and frankly any of our enemies to test the alliance, and that puts everyone in greater danger. we don't want war with russia and we don't want russia to think we're weak and won't strike back if they do try something with us militarily. >> julie, what's been the reaction among republicans? >> the top line here is, chris, after running around the capitol trying to ask as many senate republicans as possible about this, is they don't believe the former president should be taken literally or taken seriously. everyone i spoke to from senator roger marshal of kansas who is a trump ally, to marco rubio, a top republican on the senate intelligence committee who also had this to say yesterday when pressed on this. watch. >> he doesn't talk like a traditional politician. we've been through this now. you think people would have figured it out by now.

what he's basically saying, he said if you see the comments, he said nato was broke or busted until he took over because people weren't paying their dues. he talked about using leverage to get people to step up to the plate. he's not the first american president. virtually every american president at some point in some way has complained about other countries in nato not doing enough. trump is just the first one to express it in these terms. i'm zero concerned. he's been president before -- >> reporter: chris, i just caught up with senator rubio. i pressed him and he dwoubld down on these comments. he said i don't know if that meeting even happened. he questioned that even happened. he said trump was making this up as some sort of analogy. this is a guy that co-authored a bill that would require congressional approval if any person wants to pull out, withdraw or suspend their partnership in nato, he said he doesn't believe this applies to the former president. when i asked him about his comments, he said, well, we

should be paying attention to what president biden is saying, saying that the response in gaza by israel was over the top. on one hand you have them saying it's actions, not words. on the other hand they're certainly paying attention to the words of the current president, president biden. >> matthew, when donald trump started talking about abandoning this bed rom of mutual defense when campaigning in 2016, as president in 2017, republican response was serious concern, even outrage, marco rubio among the people who raised concerns back then. but now in 2024, should americans count on this being nothing more than trump not talking like a traditional politician? >> i'm actually more shocked by marco rubio's comments than donald trump's comments actually. donald trump, we all on this panel understand, he treats international relationships the same way he treats personal relationships which is, if you're with me, great, i'm with you. if it's not good for me, then

you're expendable. he's done that through his entire life. now he's basically saying internationally, if you don't do what i want, you're expendable and go by the wayside which obviously, as evelyn knows, would destroy the post world peace built since world war ii among these allied countries which nato is an integral part of that. what marco rubio's basic argument, and many other republicans as julie knows since she talks to them, we're going to support this guy to be president of the united states, and we don't trust anything he says and you shouldn't believe everything he says. everything he says is a word salad. we trust him on the world stage even though nothing of what he says is probably u troo or we actually want to implement, but go ahead and support this guy to be leader of the free world. that to me is basically insane and dangerous in the course of this, that you would make an argument that it's okay that the

president of the united states has no idea how to handle international relations and we shouldn't trust anything he says but go ahead and vote for him. >> evelyn, the wall street editorial board says no wonder mr. putin is looking so confidence, adding, deterrence depends on a combination of force and the will to use it. mr. trump's boast that he wouldn't aid an ally will sew doubt in the minds of our allies and putin to think he can get away with another invasion. how critical a moment is this for both our allies and our adversaries? >> it's so bad, chris. i want to add something to what matthew just said, because we have to remember what it was like during the trump administration. my republican friends who worked in the trump administration at various levels, at senior levels, told me that president trump had the intention of taking us out of nato. he wasn't joking.

this sir story, another president of another country, of course, is not going to call him sir. of course he made up the story. but the point is not the made-up story. the point is what his intent is. he wants to take us out of nato. that's what my republican colleagues fear. that's why senator rubio and other senators authored that legislation that made sure that congress would have a role in it. they were petrified at the time. so this is -- getting back to your question, this is incredibly important that we understand how dangerous it is. vladimir putin tomorrow could try to send little green men into the baltics, into lithuania. he could lob another missile into poland and pretend it's an accident. if we don't take a firm enough response, he's going to try to erode our confidence, our political will to stick together and to confront him. the only thing that will stop vladimir putin in his imperial quest is, frankly, failure. he has to be faced with united

front which he has been faced with until now. frankly, all the dithering over ukraine assistance, not even dithering, the fighting on the hill, the far right monga exerting influence, this was fed to him by someone who knew it would be helpful to vladimir putin frankly. >> can we talk a little bit, matthew, about messaging? i think some of this geopolitics, as incredibly important as it is, most americans don't understand or give a lot of thought to a mutual defense agreement. one of the things that i think donald trump has done well, and i'd basing this on conversations i've had with voters is, well, it makes sense to me, he says why are we paying ought the money and they're not paying their fair share of the money. so his messaging has worked. is it that the messaging on the other side isn't as clear? why do you think this seems to be, at least for a lot of voters

out there, making them pause and think maybe donald trump is right about this? >> well, that's a great question. i think there's two parts of that question. first is i think donald trump understands the base of the republican party better than anybody in america today. he understands that many of the base of the republican party today is not what it was 20 years ago. it's not anything close to what it was with ronald reagan and other republican presidents over the course of the last 50 years. there is a huge part of the base of the republican party that wants us to pull out of nato, that wants us to get rid of the united nations, that wants us out of all these international agreements. they don't care what the ramifications of that or democracy in the world is. they don't care. that's one part, he understands the base. your particular question, how do we make an argument in the general election which is where this needs to take place, it's just like arguing about democracy in america.

we have to argue why agreements, international peace and nato is important to the average person in america. we're in a global economy, where shipping lanes, all kinds of trade comes through that people sit in their own living rooms or their dinner table are taking part in actually the positives that come from all these international agreements and from nato and from the security blanket that has been put around the world since world war ii. we have to relate it directly to their lives and what's going on in their lives. i think if we do that, it has a resonance in this. donald trump knows full well how what he says, particularly with the maga group of republicans in this country, is what they want to hear. >> there is a way, as you argue, to turn this into an everyday pocketbook issue, the global impact on the economy. matthew dowd, evelyn farkas, julie tsirkin, such an important conversation. thanks for coming on the program. the kansas city chiefs on

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crown the kansas city chiefs official the next great american dynasty after winning the super bowl for the second year in a row and for the third time in five years? they look pretty happy there. in a slow-to-start but thrilling come-from-behind win over the 49ers, the chiefs certainly made a powerful case for it. here is repeat mvp and chiefs quarterback patrick mahomes earlier today. >> to be able to have our stamp on this great nfl history is something that i'll never take for granted and hopefully we can continue to let that thing go. >> nbc's steve patterson is in las vegas after the big game for us. okay. walk us through everything that happened last night, what's been happening today. what a game. >> reporter: well, first of all, you've got to talk about the atmosphere here in vegas. this city has been waiting for this moment to this a super bowl since its inception and they really rolled out all the stops. this stadium behind me, brand new, state of the art, rocking

in there. the atmosphere is perfect. the city is unique in particular because of the density of famous people to regular people. i was in the security line, it was jason derulo, then me, then gordon ramsey. you get in there and see one or two celebrities everywhere you turn because everyone has a show here or it's so close to los angeles, everything is in that group. the game, slow grinding for the first three-quarters. still a nail-biter. my colleague is a diehard san francisco fan, her nails were in me because of how nervous she was. everybody's fear that is not a kansas city fan is you get patrick mahomes in that two-minute drill situation where he's in the shotgun, the offense is running and they just take over. this is the reason why they're becoming a new dynasty. andy reid spoke about this and his future in a press conference recently. here is what he said. listen to this. >> i honestly haven't even

thought about it, but i get asked it. i'm still kind of in awe of the game and what went on there. i keep saying why did belichick and pete retire? ask those old guys the question. i'm the old guy now. so i guess i'm going to be asked that. i really haven't gone there. i haven't really thought about it. >> reporter: the question is will they be back next year and the year after that and the year after that. i can say standing in vegas, at this point it's probably a safe bet. chris. >> mahomes said after the game that they're a young team. so they have time to really prove themselves as a dynasty which as -- not a kansas city fan, sent a shudder through me. steve patterson, every other team in the nfl feeling the same way. enjoy yourself. are you feeling the pinch after buying all your super bowl snacks ahead of the big game? the super bowl did give us a

harsh reminder that prices for groceries are still high even as inflation is on the decline. tomorrow we're going to get a brand new set of data points showing just where things stand right now. nbc's christine romans has things for us. i don't know what we're expecting to hear. i stopped to pick up a few last-minute things before the super bowl party. sticker shock. >> it's been a couple years of rising prices. even though inflation is cooling, it's cooling on top of two years of higher prices for your groceries. so the grocery bill is a problem here. wings. wing prices falling, down 5% for fresh wings, frozen down 11%. those of you serving wings may have noticed they were a little cheaper. some seafood prices are also falling. tortilla chips and regular potato chips, those are up. depending on what you're buying yesterday and in your normal shopping cart, you're noticing

these prices here. a super bowl basket of, say, 14 items would put you back about $86, $87. that's cooling inflation. the year before it was up 14%. we can tell you inflation is cooling, but your bill is still higher, and that's why i think so many people still feel so lousy about the inflation situation. tomorrow we're going to get that cpi report for january. probably going to show inflation again, still cooling, but you had two years of rapid price increases so your price levels are still higher. i think that really explains kind of that vibe session that people are talking about. they don't believe a lot of these good economic numbers because their grocery bill is a lot higher than a couple years ago. >> christine romans, thank you. still to come, new and worrying information about the one and only type of cancer with a survival rate that's getting worse. dr. vin gupta on the shocking numbers and who should be concerned. in our next hour, a key

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