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>> pulley must be absolutely thrilled. nato is strengthening and along comes donald trump there to defeat from the jaws of victory. >> trumps unhinged nato threat. he is threatening to allow putin to do whatever he wants our allies at the u.s. best buy and does nothing while seemingly promising to appease putin on the issue of ukraine. just a short time ago trump formally asked the supreme court to put a hold on last week's ruling, finding that he does not have presidential immunity from criminal prosecution as he meets with his sympathetic florida judge in his stolen classified documents case. and just like the deep state planned it, taylor swift's boyfriend and a few of his friends win the super bowl as donald trump tries to take credit for taylor swift's wildly successful music career. we began with the utterly dangerous words of an old man
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that could trigger world war iii. given the breathless coverage of the robert hur report unknot binding crimes to prosecute him four -- for you would think i was talking about president joe biden, but i'm not. given the media's focus these days i would understand the confusion. it is the media's responsibility to cover both men with the same dogmatic fervor. thus far more in has been spilled and more hours have been spent dissecting job on his age and mental fitness in the age and mental fitness of donald trump. case in point, popular information tabulated the coverage of trumps cognitive issue versus coverage of the hur report. guess what got little attention? trump. one network even asked about his age, and i will remind you he is just three years older than trump, is a bigger problem than trumps
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indictments for stealing state secrets, lying to the fence about it and, oh, inciting an insurrection. i guess creating a false equivalency against asian pastors and is easier than talking about the latest dreams implanted in the minds of the retiree i make is white naturalness aide stephen miller or his fellow putin dan tucker carlson. in case you've missed it, here is a sampling of trumps we can ramblings. >> rich people are given $7000 subsidies. the danger is far greater in my opinion than the danger on the outside. the fascists, the communists, the serious socialists. i hear that they like obama better. they should, do you know why? he didn't ask for anything. we have to win in november or we are not going to have
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pennsylvania. they will change the name. we can be energy independent and we can even be energy dominant. yes, president trump. >> why would they do that? to what? despite this man's clear mental deterioration that right there is not the most terrifying aspect of what he said this weekend. what comes next is what should make all of you stop and think really hard about the prospect of this man's setting foot in the oval office ever again. >> one of the presence of a big country set up and said, sir, if we don't pay and we are attacked by russia will you protect us? you didn't pay? you are doing quick? he said yes, let's say that happened. no, in fact i would encourage them to do whatever they want. you've got to pay your bills. >> that was donald trump telling his most fervent cult
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followers that like a below average mob boss he could invite vladimir putin to invade a european country if that country did not pay up, siding with russia over our treaty bound nato allies. let's set aside the fact that he probably lied about the story, you know, he always says or what he is making up a story. let's set aside the fact that europe does pay for its defense and 0 in on what is truly deranged and dangerous about what he said. his complete betrayal of our allies. the reason that it matters is because when we need help, one day when i don't know, who decides to retake alaska allies might think twice about helping. the comet so dangerous that rupert murdoch's wall street journal compared trump to the uk prime minister wilt chamberlain, best known for his
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policy of appeasement of germany as he allowed hitler to take territory in czechoslovakia in a failed effort to avoid a second world war. allow me to make this crystal clear to everyone watching. what trump did was invite a third world war in europe by cheering on more aggression by russia. in his latest poll tom nichols asked why donald trump gets a pass for all of the deranged things he promotes? he writes: we should concentrate on the more terrifying problem. he more terrifying problem. naturally, because the republican party has been fully consumed and completely abandon
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any vestige of old ideology trumps comments were defended, dismissed and legitimized by none other than serial flip- flop or marco rubio, senator in name only from florida. >> he was talking about a story that he talked about happened in the past. he doesn't talk like a traditional politician. we've been through this and getting people ought have figured it out by now. i have zero concern. if he does talk about a traditionally common fascists. that was one of the many dangerous ideas that trump promoted within the past 72 hours. on friday he told a room filled with gun lovers he would roll back any gun safety measures biden has taken while in office. this while he reminded them while he was in office he probably did nothing about gun violence. he also plans to round up 11 million migrants and force them into detention camps to let
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other officers shoot migrants and allow police and military to shoot protesters on american streets, grant every police officer for limited the keel at will, that the epa and that oil companies drill anywhere they want. teach patriotic education in public schools, ban abortion nationwide, terminate the constitution, and start a war with mexico because he want to betray yet another ally. those are just a few examples from a very long list of disturbing policy proposals trump plans to import day one. you know, the day that he said he would be a dictator. joining me now is the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine and the vice president for russia and europe for the united states institute of peace and tom nichols, the affirmation staff writer for the atlantic. tom, i am going to start with you. i feel we have reached the point where the media must diversion from this plan of equalizing biden being an old
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man, which he cannot do anything about. time is time, and donald trump being thoroughly deranged, but i will allow you to talk. >> it is one thing to cover both candidates in a political race. it is another to cover a candidate from a normal political party and a presumptive nominee who is literally saying things that if anyone else that that would be taken as evidence of severe emotional disorder of some kind. i think you can't just simply say we are going to cover one candidate and not the other. the fact that trump says these things and that they are not just covered as widely as they would be if someone else set them suggest he has gotten us used to it. he has a fire hose us to accept a -- as senator marco rubio
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just said, that is the way he talks. trump is a make all of this at a domestic audience because he is terrified of not being elected. when he talks the rest of the world is listening. they are taking notes. they are absolutely taking this as an indication of what he would do in office. what he has done is not only reckless and irresponsible, it is incredibly dangerous. >> marco rubio by the way who used to call donald trump dangerous and he was running against him in 2016, and he still believes that, i believe, he's just saying whatever at this point like the rest of the cowards in the party. the way the people get away with saying trump is not so bad is by saying he has already served. can you speak to the further
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degradation of the dignity and the spines of republicans? i cannot ink of any who would stop him if he decided to allow tomato. they are more cowardly and more focused. they are like when he gets in we can get rid of medicare. we can privatize medicare, medicaid and social security. can you name two who would stop him if he said he would get out of nato? i can't. >> it is utterly fallacious to say because he didn't do this the first time around he won't do this the second time around. there were a lot of reasons. in part because he didn't know how and the people around him didn't know how. there still were responsible people around who were simply not going to go along with these kinds of harebrained schemes. this time around there won't be anybody to stop them. as you point out, what republican or alexa republicans
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politicians want to do is keep their jobs and stay in washington. the only people they fear as much of donald trump are their own constituents. that means they will do anything to stay in washington. if that means agreeing with donald trump when he threatens to destabilize the peace and security of the entire planet, well, so be it. >> correct, they figure they will be okay. they have money. ambassador taylor, i'm going to read a little bit of an op-ed. mr. trump now says he will end the war in 24 hours. 24 hours. what putin told tucker carlson for 72 minutes of not letting tucker say anything if he wants all of it, all of ukraine,
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because it belongs to russia. so that is what trump would do. can you explain why turning your back on nato would might be a bit dangerous and giving putin all of ukraine would be? >> you are exactly right. what putin said to tucker carlson and others, he's said this before, if that ukraine is not a real country. he can take it. as far as putin is concerned ukraine is part of russia. now why has he not? because ukrainians have resisted with the support from nato, the united states and other nato nations. they provided the ukrainians the ability to stop putin in his attempt to take over the country. ukrainians have not asked for soldiers. we have no soldiers on the ground to help them. we have is strong support from nato nations to sit -- to supply
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weapons and that is an important component. >> i hear this a lot, people say so what. that is not our problem. we should be spending our money domestically we have problems here. why should we care if russia takes ukraine? >> if russia takes ukraine russia is face-to-face with american soldiers in the nato nations that are on the border with ukraine. that is true already to some degree in the baltic nations and now true with finland. if russia takes ukraine, their next step could well be into a nato member. that means our soldiers are at risk. that means we are implicated. we will come to their defense. there is no doubt. notwithstanding the issue that
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the president that before, we will support our soldiers. that is why we care that ukraine stops the russians now. >> for all of you watching, that is world war iii. if they then attack a nato country and our troops are killed, you just saw what happened with three of our troops killed in the middle east. if you think the iraq war was terrible, wait until there is another war in europe those of you who do not want to see your family members deployed to another world war. let me play what donald trump thinks about soldiers, troops. this was donald trump talking about one particular deployed troop, nikki haley's husband. >> what happened to her husband? where is he? he is gone. >> he mocked my husband's military service.
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i will say this, donald, if you have something to say don't say get behind my back. get on a debate stage and say it to my face. >> major michael haley has been on a year-long deployment in africa with the south carolina national guard since last june. she didn't say it as you probably shouldn't, where is milania? when was the last time we saw her? she didn't let him get in the car with her. his pack is paying $368,000 for a fashion consultant for a lady that doesn't go on the campaign trail to -- with her husband or to court. i would love for you to talk about the fact that donald trump has supporters in the united states military who do not seem to mind that he doesn't care about our troops? >> not for the first time, his attack on nikki haley's husband,
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this is a guy who thought that people or that american war cemeteries how users and suckers. a, that he initially tried to deny. he looked down on people in uniform. if joe biden had made that kind of reference about a competitor's bow in that weird little boy thing that donald trump does, coverage tomorrow will be joe biden has lost it and has to be removed. we have to invoke the 25th amendment. donald trump does it and everybody says that is the way that he talks. that is how he is. the other thing is even short of world war iii, if the russians take over ukraine and become once again this dominant
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country americans do not realize their standard of living depends on the rules of the international system not being drawn up in places like moscow and beijing and tehran and other places that long before you get to a war their daily life, their standard of living, the things they take for granted would be affected. they simply say so what, donald trump does these things. there are bad people who wish us ill in foreign capitals who are cheering donald trump on. >> i'm going to punctuate that with one final comment. no less than tucker carlson told jonathan karl the author in his book, tired of winning, the former fox news host said donald trump's opposition to ukraine assistance is more radical. i hate the war more than anything and trumpets like the only person who injuries -- agrees. he is far more radical than what he is saying in front of his audiences. thank you both very much.
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scaring is caring. up next, trump's claim of absolute immunity, it hasn't been getting any traction in the lower court. a couple of hours ago he asked his hand-picked justices on the leonard leo supreme court to give him a hand. the reidout continues after this. ntinues after this. 're living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills. good to go binge-watch. good to go out even later. with cabenuva, there's no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two injections from a healthcare provider, just 6 times a year. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients, or if you're taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away.
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now we can do something about it by voting yes on prop e. a common sense solution that ensures we use community safety cameras to catch repeat offenders and hold them accountable. vote yes on e. it is already shaping up to be a busy legal week for donald trump. this morning he was in a florida courthouse for a closed hearing in his classified documents case. it is the first time he appeared before judge cannon, whom he appointed during his administration. his legal team was making their case about why they should receive more access to those very classified documents that trump took when he left the white house. late today trump filed his
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request to the supreme court to hit pause on the unanimous ruling last week rejecting his claim to absolute amenity from criminal prosecution. this is a last-ditch effort to delay the federal election interference case and his 10 page plea to the highest court in the land is a rehash of all of his greatest hits that have already been denied in the lower courts. it includes the claims it would open all future presidents to potential prosecution, which would be true if future presidents committed the same crimes trumpets accused of committing. or if everything he was indicted for was done in his official capacity as president. i still cannot understand how pressuring the georgia secretary of state to find him both with an official presidential act. trump again made the claim to not only with the d.c. circuit court ruling, which would allow the federal trial to resume constantly replicable harm, but it also threatens immediate
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injury to the first amendment interests of tens of millions of american voters entitled to hear president trump's campaign message as they decide to cast a ballot in november. note that in the filing they continued to refer to citizen trump as "president." i am holding in my hands this filing. what are the chances in your view that the supreme court takes this versus allowing the circuit court ruling to stand on presidential immunity? >> the appeal of letting the circuit court ruling stand is that the case could go back to trial preparation almost immediately. this is an significant issue of first impression, meeting the courts have never decided before whether a former president has full absolute presidential amenity for criminal acts.
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i think it will be very difficult for the court to pass on the temptation of hearing the issue itself and deciding. >> i was listening to eric holder earlier and they were having the conversation. they can really put the nail in this coffin if they actually take the case and they can decide and rule no. presidents do not have for instance the right to kill using seal team six, which is what donald trump's lawyers are arguing. it will be useful for the future to maybe know that. >> and of course the boss is always right. eric holder is a constitutional law scholar and is good on these issues. it is an important point, having an decision from the supreme court makes the decision a final one. >> what donald trump is also arguing, as people understand,
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the three judges on the d.c. circuit heard the case. he would now like the full court to hear it. he would like to have the additional step before the supreme court gets it. that is just a delay tactic, right? >> absolutely. this entire strategy trump is using has been permeated with delay. i think that is a good catch on your part that trump in this petition say not only do i want you to say my case while i get ready to ask you to hear it and get ready to file my petition, he also says i want you to undo what the court of appeals did, where they said i could not have an additional stay of proceedings if i asked the full court of appeals to rehear it. you can see how every step they are just baking in more delay. one hopes that the supreme court will call it out for what it is and handle the case expeditiously. >> it does seem to me justice cannon has been the best friend donald trump has had in terms
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of a judge. the idea that she would allow any witness information to be released, putting these people at threat. and off of the donald trump could go in and asked for further access to the documents that he stole. that is like a bank robber saying let me hold the money a little bit because i need to make my case. for me that is bananas that is something he could ask for. >> these issues are surfacing on parallel tracks. first there is a request trump estimate for additional discovery. he wants to be able to have this publicly, names of not just witnesses, potential witnesses. people who may never testify. he wants that the pike the -- despite the fact that jack smith has come forward with evidence. and the judge is in the process of holding these procedures act hearings designed to rule on how classified material will be
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handled. here is maybe one incoming when it comes to eileen cannon. under the statute if the government doesn't believe the judge gets the answers right, then the government is entitled to take an immediate appeal to the 11th circuit court of appeals. in the past they have seen that. >> they can say wait a minute, we need the 11th circuit to look at her conduct and go back and review her decisions? >> that is right. it is meant to meaningfully protect classified information from revelation in the public, which could damage national security. instead of running the risk the statue says if the government thinks the judge has gotten it wrong, we will pause everything. the government can take an appeal to the 11th circuit. it could conceivably go to the supreme court.
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we want to be so certain of the irony in this case that we are protecting our national security by keeping classified documents from unnecessary disclosure. >> i always feel like i am out of the your law class whenever you are on. you are helping us all to be smarter about the law which we will need when it comes to donald trump. thank you so much. coming up israeli forces rescued two hostages from captivity with air strikes carried out to cover the rake killing more than 60 palestinians, including women and children. we will be right back. right b. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. i already got a pneumonia vaccine, ...but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions... ...like asthma, diabetes, copd, or heart disease,... ...or are 65 or older, you are at increased... ...risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20® is approved in adults... ...to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria... ...that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose.
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>> two israeli hostages are free and reunited with their families after they were rescued early monday. israeli forces say they rescued the two who were being held by hamas. the human cost was massive. local officials that the air strikes use killed more than 60 palestinians including women and children. rafah is a crowded city sheltering more than 1 million displaced people. president biden has been venting frustration in recent private conversations over his inability to persuade israel to change its military tactics in the gaza strip, even calling the prime minister an "a-hole." not much has significantly
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changed in terms of u.s. policies. even at the death count soars more than 28,000 people have been killed in gaza since the war began according to the palestinian health ministry. thousands more are missing and presumed dead. join me now is a palestinian policy expert and visiting professor at the university of miami. let's talk about this. there is a dichotomy between what president biden is saying privately and publicly and also the policy has not changed. >> if you say things privately and then you are unwilling to change her policy it means nothing. look at the frustration of the european chief diplomat who is a very moderate guy. this was pointed out to president biden, if you believe they are killing too many people, and ultimately you have to cut military aid. i mean to say that, it indicates the europeans are
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shifting. you have the netherlands, spain, belgium that are sending weapons. you are seeing a shift where they are saying they are unwilling to stand with regimen netanyahu. what they consider is zero-sum genocidal policies. it is jeopardizing national security. >> the offensive reason is to return the 130 hostages remaining, but the ratio, it is much more. over the weekend the story of a little girl, a beautiful sexual girl whose 911 call went around the world. she was found dead in the vehicle in which she was fleeing, trying to get to safety. these other stories that people are saying. this is what is impacting the attitude toward the war. >> 12,000 children killed.
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we know the children are dying now as we speak of starvation. the use of starvation as a weapon of war is illegal. we heard her begging for mercy, begging for help. you talk about the hostages, ultimately they free two, 30 were killed. the only time we had any hostages released by negotiation. there is no military solution. what benjamin netanyahu is doing if bragging that he is fighting with biden. he benefits politically. he is fanning the war in the west bank while all eyes are on gaza, the slaughter of rafah. what is happening in the west bank? tonight they burn down an entire village that a finance minister was calling to wipe out. in east jerusalem in my neighborhood hundreds chanting
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kill all of the arabs. sadly if the united states does not intervene to stop this masculine, what the world considers that policy extermination of palestinians, president biden has a responsibility. he seems to be privately venting but unwilling and unable to do anything. today he had a conversation in the white house with some people from the region. the only thing that he was focused on is let's wait and see what happens after and maybe we can have projects for gaza. by the time the war ends i think there will be a thinning of the population and people -- there will be no gaza. the living conditions don't exist anymore. rafah is the last place. if you are willing to not protect civilians, which after rwanda the united states
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developed this doctrine. our responsibility is to protect. if he is unwilling, i fear this will open the door not only for netanyahu to a race palestinians, but for trump and to take europe as well. >> that is the wider picture. the other thing you are now seeing is an emboldening. the icj slow things down for a moment. people are blockading aid and amassing themselves of the border say we are not letting any food in. >> settlers are now chanting in every city include inside israel kill the palestinians, exterminate them. i've never seen in my lifetime soldiers uploading their own pictures committing war crimes. we are living in a situation where not only palestinians are
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screaming, we are seeing israeli soldiers bragging about it. this comes from lack of accountability and a sense of impunity. above all unconditional support of these policies. >> thank you. i always value your voice. rfk junior infant having to apologize to his own family for an ad placed during the super bowl as conservatives blow a gasket over the very idea of a black national anthem. more next. more next. kayak. no way. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? kayak. i like to do things myself.
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>> jackpot, kansas city! >> that was the moment the kansas city chiefs defeated the san francisco 49ers last night, making them super bowl champions for the second straight year and the third time in the last five years. it was a nail-biter with patrick mahomes connecting with the receiver for the winning touchdown in overtime, making him a three time super bowl mvp. beyond the game it was a very eventful night. for easily trigger conservatives.
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taylor swift was in attendance cheering on her boyfriend travis kelce, which of course had the maga fanatics accusing democrats of rigging the game, claiming it is all part of a suppose if i out. the popstar is a government agent working to get joe biden re-elected. the president himself even trolled that conspiracy posting a dark branded meme and writing just like which are lit up. it drew equal amounts of biting fan euphoria and confusion and criticism giving the warfare currently raging in the middle east. sign up or not it appears swiss political power has donald trump shaking in his boots. hours before kickoff he decided to take credit for her success posting on his want to be twitter ...
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>> in the words of ms. swift, donald, you need to calm down. her fans were not the only fans who had a great night. there was the epic halftime show featuring several r&b and hip-hop icons like alicia keys, lil jon, will. i. am. and jermaine dupree. on top of all of that beyonce herself not only surprise drop two new songs, but announced a new country album that will be released in march. of course it would not be the super bowl without the commercials. some were funny, some were heartfelt. others were downright weird, including a $7 million at that has robert kennedy junior apologizing to his own family.
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>>. . . robert kennedy, who was a man i have admired and worked with that time so my life. he is running interference for donald trump now. it is shocking for everybody. it was an ad paid for by trump supporters who want to see donald trump be president. we can't take our eyes off of that. him keeping his pen on his account, means he is insincere to his family members as the american voters. >> he is an anti vaxxer, we
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know that. if he consolidates the anti vax vote, who does that hurt more? trump or biden? >> he's not running a particularly aggressive campaign. he is popular among joe rogan dude bros. it's not recognizable for the man i have known as environmental justice lawyer. >> people who are dissatisfied with biden on gaza, just know that he is way to the right of biden on gaza. he is so far to the right of him. he is way to the right. this is the other ad that had people like, wait a minute, is jesus on feet finder? let me play a little bit of. it he gets us, that is the ad.
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i know that there is a jesus ad last super bowl, but it goes by an anti-lgbt group. this is different -- what does that make of that? >> so, thank you for. that that was lovely. i have very mixed mind of it. is a beautiful ad. the whole message of it is an attack on christian nationalism. or the fundamentalism. whatever you want to call it. it doesn't present this fictional american, warrior caucasian jesus. it shows that jesus is a life of compassion and love. and service and humility. he made maga heads explode. and
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then there were concerns, if you care this much and you get what jesus was about, couldn't that 12 million have been used to take care of the poor? jesus did tell off his own fall overspending when an ointment. when i learned to the thunder's, where it's a lot of these groups that are deeply anti gay, anti lgbtq. and to me, homophobia is the opposite of jesus's teaching. >> the last question, meghan kelly lost her mind about the black national anthem. i will note, it is made the black national anthem 12 years before the u.s., the song that say america national anthem just made the national anthem in the 1930s, 1931. your thoughts about the freak out. >> meghan kelly says that jesus is white and black faces all right. i don't take it all that seriously. this is somebody who said the pepper spray was a food and
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pieces of vegetable and fox news was news. it comes back to the fact that meghan was not a fan of anything it does not cater to her whiteness. that would give 100 bucks anyone who would show -- a thug or an illegal. i don't to be too hard on her, i thought she was great as queen el centro zone. but the worst part about meghan kelly, if she were to come out and say that it was a great game in a shoe a good job and she like the halftime show, her base would. killer they would call her critical race theory. hate is what she has to, cell it's all she's got. >> she couldn't just enjoy the goodness of the halftime show. andra day, she did a great job. the nfl is 70% black players i think they enjoyed it. the third version is all about getting revenge and fighting with the british for their freedom. i don't fault anybody who has a
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problem with it. >> don feudal thank you very much i appreciate you and before we go i want to thank all of your readers and philly and in st. louis to currency in my book tour this past week. i've loved meeting you all and for all of those of you in california i will be heading out there later this week. our bit pomona college and clermont on thursday at seven pm and then on friday at seven pm. please be sure to go to medgar and marley, to msnbc.com slash medgar and really for tickets. i hope to see you there and that's tonight's reidout. thank you all to the delta chauvin supporting me and coming to everything. now instead jen psaki starts now .
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