grocery bill. this ties in clearly. grocery prices are up 25%. even when i say things are starting to get better, they're still higher than they were a few years ago. that's something that's a recent, painful memory. >> it's so in your face. >> it is. it means the fed likely won't cut interest rates any time soon. >> thanks for all of that. that does it for us today. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ hey, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. i'm alicia menendez in for nicole wallace. we're on the lookout for special counsel jack smith.

"the new york times," quote, response to mr. trump's emergency application asking the justices to halt the d.c. circuit court ruling. it was only 24 hours ago the disgraced, twice impeached, four times indicted ex president filed his appeal. that filing was brazen and cringey. from the opening salvo that quotes yogi berra, a legal have your cake and eat it too. earlier today the supreme court gave jack smith a deadline to reply to trump. next tuesday at 4:00 p.m., one week from right now. given that every day counts in

terms of getting the federal election interference case back on track to go to trial before the election, it's widely expected that special counsel jack smith and his team will act and they will act fast. as "the new york times" notes, quote, nothing prevents mr. smith from filing sooner, and he probably will. what about the deadline itself? a whole week. "the new york times" points out, quote, that timeline is not speed. the court often asks for quicker responses on emergency applications. as viewers know well, unless the justices move quickly, the trial could be pushed into the heart of the 2024 campaign. that's where we start with betsy woodruff-swan and former u.s. attorney joyce vance and back

with me at the table msnbc legal correspondent lisa ruben. lisa, to say time is of the essence, an understatement. your sense of when jack smith gets this done? >> probably before the end of the week. the justices have a day on their calendar for -- expressly marked off as a conference day. that's going to be at the very least a day where the justices get together and talk about cases they could hear. if you're jack smith because a reply from donald trump is not called for, you want that brief in before that conference and allow the justices an opportunity to potentially act on donald trump's stay motion by the end of the week. that doesn't necessarily mean they will, but that they could. >> talk about what could happen. what else could happen? >> they could order a reply brief from trump or trump asks for a reply.

they could take their time and wait until the deadline and then hold it over until they're ready to make a decision. i looked at some past stays involving donald trump. one thing i found is in the case where donald trump was litigating with the january 6th committee over his exertion of executive privilege, he asked for the supreme court to do a review and asked for a stay simultaneously. that's different than this. in that case the petition and motion were filed on december 23, 2021. the court made its decision a little bit less than a month later. again, if that past is prologue, even though there's a week deadline here, we could have an up or down answer on the stay itself within three to four weeks, even if as in the

executive privilege case, the cert wasn't decided until four weeks later. >> the supreme court is not setting a particularly speedy schedule. should we read anything into that, joyce, in terms of what this could mean for the timeline? >> well, look, as lisa is pointing out the procedural rules in the supreme court are always a little murky. in fact, we call the second brief, the brief the government will file, a response brief, then the party making the motion, trump, gets to file a reply. the supreme court rules don't provide for timing on that reply. there's a memo that offers trump the right to issue a reply brief here. the court doesn't have to wait around for that to be filed before they vote on the case. they can actually ignore that reply brief. if it doesn't come in before they go to conference.

the procedural posture the court is in is very arcane. they can decide this issue when they want to. they can treat this motion, which is not -- i should say a petition rather than motion because we're on appeal. they can treat the petition like a request from trump to hear the case, or they can take up only the issue of the continued stay of proceedings in the trial court. tough to read these tea leaves. it's safe to say that jack smith's team will act as quickly as they can here. they won't jump quickly for the sake of going fast. it's more important to them to get it right than to get it fast. trump raises a lot of arguments in his petition. folks who suggested we'll see a response this week are on target. that would set the supreme court up to make its decision next week. >> betsy, let's talk about trump saying he wants this case stayed

facing the review of the d.c. circuit. the d.c. circuit waved trump off and yet here you are. "politico" noting such rebunk hearings are rare. it could take weeks. i just wonder your sense of how likely the supreme court is to go along with this. >> it's tough to say. one thing that we can see from the particular set of tea leaves we're looking at is they're consistent with prior tea leaves from december when jack smith asked the supreme court to move quickly on this immunity question and the court declined to do so. one thing that chief justice roberts has made clear is he's not pedal to the metal when it comes to hashing out the legal issues related to this immunity question. he's being more deliberative and

slowly than the justice department would like. that continues with this deadline that he's given jack smith in this particular case. the other piece of this that i think is important, from trump's perspective getting a review would be valuable. it's a ton of judges that weigh in when it's every judge on a circuit involved. that takes a long time. the joke is for a group of judges that large to go to lunch could take weeks. they all have to get their filings put together and their rulings. in a reasonable amount of time that would be tough. for trump that would be a jackpot. >> you have the other trump case, the 14th amendment case. judge michael ludwig has weighed in on presidential immunity.

arguing, quote, rejection of absolute immunity in this case is essential to protecting article two's design of the presidency itself. this court should deny a stay because mr. trump's claim is of boundless immunity and it's wrong. it's interesting to me ludwig who had been so out there on the 14th amendment. if you're a conservative justice, having ludwig weighing in on immunity, does that carry any weight? >> i think former judge ludwig carries a lot of weight to a point. he has staked out a position with respect to donald trump's participation in the insurrection and what he considers unlawful conduct that goes back to the january 6th hearings. given that and given his

transparent behind the scenes advising of former president trump, i don't know his thumb on the scale here will make all that much more of a difference. on the other hand, is it important or valuable or just causes a second reflection for some people given how much distance ludwig, who was a legal giant of the right, has created between himself and the maga world, it's so important. i want to add something to what betsy was saying. when jack smith went through the supreme court initially to leap frog the d.c. circuit, he not only asked them to prove with deliberate speed, but he asked them to review the case. in looking for his response, substantively, i think folks are scratching their head. what does jack smith do now? he has told the supreme court in

no uncertain terms it's, quote, imperative public importance that trump's claims of immunity be resolved by this court. how he backs away from that now is hard to say. my guess is he tries to split the baby with the bath water, that he says the stay is not called for. you want to take the case, take the case. it's important for the public to hear from the supreme court before there's a trial and possibly a conviction. don't slow us down. we wasted two months since the time we filed this petition on december 11th. >> if you're jack smith, joyce, what do you do? >> jack smith has on his team one of the best appellate lawyers in the country. it's safe to say they knew this moment would come. they would make the argument for the court to take cert before

the court of appeals could act. lisa is correct, i think, to make the point that it's possible that there won't be a stay here. that would take the vote of five supreme court justices. it's not entirely clear there are five justices who think this issue has enough merit to enter a stay. they could allow the trial court to proceed while the court sorts this out. i think more reasonably what we'll see jack smith do is file as quickly as they're able to, ask the supreme court to affirm the court of appeals for the district of colombia without hearing the case. that decision was 3-0. all the judges agreed. we all know this has to be the outcome in the long run. you can't have a president who has to the point made during oral argument before the court of appeals the power to argument s.e.a.l. team six to take out a political opponent.

presidents don't have boundless immunity for, quote, unquote, official acts, or act in the outer perimeter of their official duty. the only real question is how quickly the supreme court can get to that result. i think we can look to jack smith to ask them to get there quickly. that's the real issue at stake. >> joyce, as is so often the case, you beat me to the punch. i wanted to play that sound about s.e.a.l. team six. let's play it. >> could a president who ordered s.e.a.l. team six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to prosecution? >> if he was impeached and convicted. >> i've asked you a series of hypotheticals about criminal actions that could be taken by a president and could be considered official agents and

have asked you would such a president be subject to criminal prosecution if he's not impeached. your answer is no? >> i believe i said if he's impeached and convicted first. >> so he's not impeached or convicted. put that aside. you're saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order s.e.a.l. team six to assassinate a political rival? >> lisa, if you're the supreme court justices, if you feel there is a danger in having oral arguments where you play out all these various hypotheticals? >> i don't know what the danger is. on some level it illustrates how ridiculous the position is, as well as ahistorical. the pardon of richard nixon is

premised that you can have an official agent worthy of prosecution. we have known that for some time. the very case of trump versus vance, while it's not about the investigation of an official act is premised on the fact that the former president can be criminally prosecuted. that was a 7-2 decision. while justice kavanaugh wrote separately, he said very clearly, no person is above the law. that of course includes the president. the bread crumbs have been left for a long time. i'm not sure what the danger is if it exposes to a more general public how absolutely, facially parody it almost is. >> you're thinking about this as an attorney. you're very logical. my question to you, betsy, are they thinking about this politically? do they see these hypotheticals

as things voters will say around a diner table? it's a lot of what aboutism. what if this rule is applied more broadly and this awful, horrible thing happens? in some ways those hypotheticals are meant to be legal so much as a political argument. >> the trump teams favorite hypothetical is the issue of a president ordering a drone strike that kills a u.s. citizen, which happened when barack obama was president. they point to that and say, look, if trump can be charged with inciting an insurrection, then the next president who orders some sort of military attack that has consequences, injuries or harms an american, that president can be charged with murder. i don't think that's an argument the justices are likely to take seriously. there's no question that ordering a drone strike is very much within the job of a

president when it comes to targeting people that are believed to be enemy combatants. however, the trump team has very enthusiastically promoted that as an example of what they say the consequences would be if there's any limitation that is the supreme court imposes on presidential immunity. trump and his lawyers are arguing -- the language they used is the presidency will be upended or destroyed if these immunity protections that presidents enjoy are eroded. that to an extent feels like potentially trump lawyers could be thinking what tools would be in our tool box if presidential immunity is eroded and then trump becomes president? does that create an avenue for them to try to exploit prior targets, bringing criminal

charges against prior presidents? >> joyce, lisa gave me her best guess of when we'll see a response from smith's team. your sense of when we get it? >> i think we'll see them file something around the end of the week. it could be earlier. it could be today. it depends on whether or not there is anything in trump's petition that surprised them that they wanted to review. let me say, as an appellate lawyer, something you're well aware of is these briefs don't just magically appear. they're pain-staking. you must make your arguments in the brief or you may waive the ability to make them down the road. there are things like citations to cases, there has to be endless proof reading. the day in and day out work is very difficult, very time consuming. i'm always impressed when we see

jack smith's team file something very quickly. >> if it does happen today, joyce, betsy, lisa, you'll all asked to be right back in these chairs. thank you for getting us started. when we get back, take two on capitol hill. house republicans will once again vote to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. plus, voting is under way to convict congressman george santos. plus donald trump says jump and republicans say how high. all those stories and more when "deadline white house" continues. don't go anywhere. inues. don't go anywhere. to move your business forward. with a streamlined shipping network. and new, high-speed processing and delivery centers.

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exactly one week after their epic failure to impeach alejandro mayorkas over his handling of the border, the house gop is set to vote on the measure again today. it's not because they suddenly found any high crimes or misdemeanors. it's because they think they have the votes. last week's defeat was handed to house republicans by a trio of their own. now the majority leader steve scalise is returning to the capitol this week and they're hoping they have the single vote they need to succeed. there's also concern over the potential impact of today's special election in new york to replace george santos.

if the democratic pulls off the win, speaker johnson can only lose two votes on any vote going forward. let's bring in the congressman chairman of the oversight committee. do you see any high crimes and misdemeanors here? >> no, nothing close. there's no crime or misdemeanor. in fact, what's happened for this entire congress is that republicans have attacked secretary alejandro mayorkas and president biden for the issues at the border while they're going to court to undermine and prevent the secretary and the biden administration from implementing policy changes. when that's not enough, the president and secretary mayorkas spent months negotiating a bipartisan deal to address the situation at the border which goes further than any democrat has ever gone before. all of a sudden, after claiming

that the administration needs to address the border, the republicans and donald trump decide, no, no, no, we don't want to solve the problems. we want the problems so that we can run against the problems. that is incredibly cynical. that's what this is all about. it's taking a scalp of secretary mayorkas for the maga base and trying to lay the blame at his feet for a situation at the border that needs to be addressed, but can only be addressed by legislation, not by executive action. >> congressman, let's talk about the math here. the republicans rushing to vote on this today ahead of the results in the special election in new york in case their razor thin majority gets thinner. do you think they'll have the votes today? >> i don't know. i assume if they're calling it, they do after last week's debacle. the damage has been done. when you have three members of

your own party who stand up to what is a strong, strong push from donald trump, marjorie taylor greene and all the extreme far right, and they say, you know what, this doesn't meet the standard for high crimes and misdemeanors and i care about the constitution more than i care about my party -- mike gallagher announced he would not be running for re-election because there's no place in this republican party for someone who wants to do the right thing, not the thing that the party wants. it's a sad reflection of this republican party, but the damage was done. they didn't pass this last week. it is clear that not only the republicans, but the american people, recognize this is a complete sham. it's a political exercise. they should reap the consequences in november. >> you're seeing that play out in that new york special where you have them saying, the

republican opponent is responsible for this. you talk about the need for comprehensive reform. i want to play sound of what the secretary himself said on "meet the press." >> they're baseless allegations and that's why i'm not distracted by them and focussed on the work of the department. >> do you bear responsibility for what is happening at the border, which the president has called a crisis? >> it certainly is a crisis. while we don't bear responsibility for a broken system and we're doing a tremendous amount within that broken system. fundamentally congress is the only one who can fix it. >> i don't understand, congressman, how you can vote -- if you're a republican, if you hold up sending resources to the border and then cry hair on fire about how there is a crisis that you have shown -- you

demonstrated no interest in actually solving. certainly voters too will see through that. >> well, take it one step further. now, speaker mike johnson is saying that he won't bring the international appropriations supplemental bill to support democratic allies in israel, ukraine and taiwan, to provide humanitarian aid to the palestinians in gaza, he will not bring that to the floor unless it addresses border security which the senate just did in a very, very detailed comprehensive bipartisan solution. it's even one step more cynical that what you're describing. i think tom swaze has done an excellent job framing the issues. the democrats want solutions. the republicans want to tear down our system and they don't want solutions.

what tom swaze is running against is someone who made it clear she's a rubber stamp for donald trump. she's be on a national abortion ban. she'll be opposing for cynical reasons a border security bill and ultimately she doesn't have the knowledge, experience or understanding, in addition to her own shady financials to win that seat. i urge everyone in long island and queens to vote before the polls close. every vote matters in this election. >> you talked about this dynamic in the house, some progressive democrats hope there's a path forward that includes something for folks on the interior, that there's an appetite to do something for dreamers which had bipartisan support across the country. you mentioned mike gallagher from wisconsin who voted against the impeachment. he announced he's not running for re-election.

that would seem to not bode well for semi reasonable members of the gop constituting a larger part of their caucus. >> no question, alicia. the republican party has been co-opted by the extreme right. i say that because there are numerous bipartisan bills that have been cleared through committees here that are waiting to get on the house floor, but the speaker will not bring them on the house floor because the extreme maga right views bipartisan as a four-letter word. because the speaker will need them for more critical votes down the road, he doesn't want to anger them by putting bills on the floor that will upset them. that includes the ukraine funding which is supported by probably 70% of the house, but will not reach the floor under mike johnson because he's been co-opted by the extreme right. this is not the ronald reagan republican party.

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anything. joining our conversation nbc news national political reporter is here, plus msnbc contributor charlie sykes and professor of politics at northern state university, jason johnson is here. let's talk about the issues each side is focussed on and what you're hearing from voters. >> reporter: there are national issues playing in battleground districts, things like immigration, crime, abortion, good government and democracy. republicans say immigration is a big issue for them. democrats say abortion, good

government, fighting extremism. this is a divided district that mirrors other suburban swing districts. as this district goes, so could go the house of representatives. one unifying issue is george santos, specifically a shared sense of embarrassment about the indicted and expelled former congressman. i spoke to voters about george santos. let's play what they had to say. >> i voted for swaze. >> why? >> because i believe in his philosophy and i really don't want to get too political here, but he's a good candidate and i believe in what he says. so i went with him. of course, i hated george santos. here i am in this weather. >> what do you think of george

santos? >> no. no. i don't -- >> just no? >> yes. >> are you happy he's out? >> yes. >> what do you think of george santos? >> do i have to say? >> please. >> it's an embarrassment and i think he needs help because he's delusional. >> reporter: now you can see the snow storm there. that's one unpredictable factor in this race. it created fears within both parties about lower turnout. there's anxiety within both parties, but a little more anxiety on the republican side. their voters are election day voters. democrats are more early voters. i'm not making any predictions here. it depends whether one has a bigger turnout than the other. voters can vote until 9:00 p.m. >> you're too smart and have seen too many elections to make

predictions. i respect that. that's why i'll ask jason johnson to make a prediction. there are elements of this race that are interesting to me. it's interesting to me that immigration is an issue in a new york district, right, that tells us something about the contours of this moment. i also find it interesting given that we keep coming back to this question of whether or not abortion remains an issue, the fact that it was a big issue in the debates leading up to this, the fact that you have phillips wanting to say i'm pro-life, but i would vote against a national ban. okay, but what about something that falls short of a national ban? what about reinstating roe? the fact that assault weapons have been a big issue. how much of what is happening here, jason, can we extrapolate out to what will happen in

november? >> alicia, i was surprised. i watched the debate between the two. i was surprised how much it is a national debate. i didn't hear a lot about local issues, even in terms of immigration, you didn't hear as much about sanctuary cities. if a local election is being fought over national issues, all things being equal, it's a slight advantage to democrats. issues like abortion, protecting our democracy from a potential dictator, they tend to bring in not just democratic voters, but also independents. independents don't like what happened with roe either. i would caution anybody from taking too much out of an election that happens in a suburban new york district during a snow storm when you have a candidate who is a republican who embarrassed everybody. even if swaze takes his seat

back, it's such a unique special election. >> charlie, i want to ask you play out a hypothetical here. if swaze wins and that republican majority shrinks by one, does that change the dynamics within the gop caucus? >> well, it makes it that much harder for speaker johnson. we're looking at 219 republican votes, 212 democratic votes. if the democrats win that seat, johnson can only lose three votes on anything that he brings up. his speakership continues as it began, hanging by an absolute thread. he's one of the weakest speakers we've ever seen in that care. it goes to something that dan golden was telling you, that he is really -- will continue to be held hostage by the extreme wing of his party, the extremists

from the far reaches. you know, this does change the dynamic because, in fact, it means there is potentially a bipartisan majority that we'll see very shortly whether it's willing to stand up to this speaker. we have a discharge petition on the ukraine aid and whether that might lead to the ouster of speaker johnson, which would be even more chaos for a chaotic house republican majority. >> i have to say, i love seeing you at a polling place. it's a little disorienting because i'm accustomed to seeing you on capitol hill. i feel like you're outside of your natural habitat. yet, there's a direct line from your day to day beat and what you're covering right now, and that is the way this race impacts capitol hill. when you were in the hallways talking to members of the gop if there's concern around this

race, if there's an awareness of how this could change the dynamic of their caucus? >> reporter: there is concern around this race. right now republicans have a paper-thin margin in the house, 219 votes to the democrats 212 votes. they've been struggling to govern with that. now, if they lose this, i don't know what's thinner than paper, but i know that speaker johnson doesn't want to find out. he's been struggling to get legislation passed. sometimes he can't even bring legislation to the floor because he has different factions of rebels. all it takes is three or four republicans to show up and say i'm not supporting something and it collapses. also, in nassau country republicans have felt quite good. they've done well in recent years. they swept every district on long island between 2018 and 2022. they want to hold this seat. it was republicans on long

island who were ultimately the clinchers in that push to expel george santos. they would refer not to say that seat is in democratic hands. the fact that what happens here might happen in this district in the fall. there's a lot to play for in these next few hours. >> that's why we'll stay on this story for the next few hours. thank you so much for spending time with us. charlie and jayson, you're sticking with me. up next, how the ex president is trying to turn the rnc into a family affair with his daughter-in-law running for co-chair.

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a stop the steal activist and a member of the trump family, meet the two people who could be leading the rnc. the ex president has endorsed michael whatley chair of the north carolina republican party. he also endorsed his daughter-in-law, laura trump as co-chair. she would no doubt run the rnc however her father-in-law sees fit. jason, that for a long time has been trump adjacent, but it's bringing an organizational instrument under his full

control. >> yes, alicia. look, i've said this for years. i'll repeat this. you don't have a republican party anymore. it's a terrorist organization called maga. this is part of it. when you have someone who is not an elected official, who was voted out of office, who is basically taking the entire infrastructure of what used to be a party and turned it into his own sort of family affair, you don't really have a functional party anymore. these are still the republicans who didn't have a platform in 2020 other than do you still like donald trump and put it in a mailbox. that's what they're doing. i'm not surprised by this. the fact that whatley is an election denier, laura trump, none of these things surprise me. these are real jobs. running the republican party actually matters. there's places you have to raise money. if these people are serving just at the behest of donald trump,

this could have serious consequences for republican candidates. >> bingo. let's talk about that, charlie. the legitimate critique of the rnc was the fact they were having trouble fund-raising. that's one of the core functions of this organization. does it help to have either of these people at the head? >> well, obviously not. look, you come for the nepotism, you stay for the fact that they're putting neo fights in these jobs. this gets back into the presidency. he wants to populate the rnc and the federal government, as well, with his own creatures, people who will have absolute loyalty to him, who have no other base, who are absolutely not going to come down with the kind of conscience that might have inflicted mike pence on january

6th. it is not surprising that he is reaching out to family members. i've speculated half seriously if donald trump had his way for a selection of vp nominee, he would choose a member of his own family, choose ivanka or done junior because he wants this to be a family business. he wants this to be a dynasty. you're seeing what he's doing to the rnc. to jason's point, the rnc actually does important things in terms of voter lists, in terms of voter contact, in terms of money. and what donald trump is doing is not simply making it just a complete creature of the maga movement, but he's stripping away any pretense that this is -- that the leadership is chosen on the basis of some or the of expertise that would know to put laura trump in there is really a statement on his part. >> i have about 30 seconds.

wouldn't it be something after all these republicans auditioning to be his vp if he chose someone from his own family? >> that's probably what he'll end up doing. jared's not busy. they're not selling state secrets. it's highly trump will pick somebody he likes. automatic of that is ultimately dangerous. but the key is just because there may be incompetent leadership at the rnc doesn't mean democrats can sit down to what charlie said, trump wants to create a dynasty. if you want to stop trump from getting back in office, you can't rest on your laurels because the rnc is being run by idiots. >> charlie sykes, jason johnson, thank you. k you. have a good day, behave yourself. like she goes to work at three in the afternoon and sometimes gets off at midnight. she works a lot, a whole lot. we don't get to eat in the early morning.

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rise. for republicans in congress who think they can oppose funding for ukraine and not be held accountable, history is watching. i know this -- i will not walk away. i can't imagine any other president walking away. for as long as i'm president, if putin attacks a nato ally, the united states will defend every inch of nato territory. i'm in for nicolle wallace. president biden mincing no words for what a win for russia in ukraine would mean. how to fend off the invader or vladimir putin could launch another attack somewhere else. with stakes that grave, one might think voting for additional funding is a no-brainer, but the republican party has followed donald trump down a dangerous path, jeopardizing our national security for politics. it was a big deal this morning when 22 republican senators

broke with their party, voting for critical aid for our allies -- ukraine, israel, and taiwan. the $95 billion national security package now heads to the house where its future is uncertain. trump and his congressional allies opposing these funds for our allies along with the former president trump's absolutely shocking comments this weekend, encouraging russia to go after a nato ally if they do not pay enough. raising serious concerns a time could come in the united states support for allies abroad might waver. chris holland from maryland said, "everyone should be scared as hell. anybody who cares about american leadership, anyone who cares about protecting democracy, anybody who wants to take on authoritarians around the world should be scared to death by the fact that donald trump is telling us that if he was elected president he would throw our nato allies to putin."

it emboldens is likes of puputti -- putin and others. just last week, we saw putin in an interview with former fox anchor tucker carlson make comments about poland, another nato member, that echoed what he said about ukraine before he invaded. former ambassador to russia, michael mcfaul, has recently said the alarms of russia's behavior should ring even louder. in a piece last month discussing his trip to lithuania, he writes writes, "i was struck by how much more long term they are thinking about the russian threat than we are in the united states. many of our nato allies expressed real fears that putin is only getting started in ukraine, that ukraine could be just the early phase of a new major war in europe."

analyst michael mcfaul joins us. and princeton university professor eddie glaude. and special correspondent for "vanity fair," molly. how are leaders viewing this? >> first of all, thanks for showing that piece, because that piece was published weeks before mr. trump said the comments he did a couple days ago. but already, because of our debate in congress, this new isolationist moment we're in, there were lots of conversations when i was in lithuania -- by the way, there were officials from the entire region there, including poland, discussing security on the front line vis-a-vis russia -- conversations about two to three years down the road. what if putin prevails in ukraine? what happens after that?

the consensus is he won't stop, he'll continue to threaten. lots of allusions to the 1930s and what hitler did in that part of the world when we, again, were in this isolationist moment. and then, as a coda to all that, mr. trump says exactly what their worst nightmares are, that if they don't pay up -- by the way, he completely doesn't understand how nato works -- but if they don't pay up, we're not going to defend them, that's exactly what they were fearing before he said those comments. thank you for all the alarms you just said from yourself and from the others you quoted. this is a really serious moment. >> he doesn't know how nato works and i'm not sure he cares. one more alarm, to the point about sort of long-term thinking versus short-term thinking, we've been very focused on this aid package to ukraine, right, because that seems to be the thing that is before congress right now. but when you talk about longer

term, what will it require from the united states to protect the world from another potential invasion by putin? >> first is the aid bill. the short term is part of the long term. if, god forbid, that aid package and bill does not go forward, i think historians will look back on this year and this moment as a turning point when we decided that we didn't care about our allies and we put our head in the sands. i want to emphasize we've lived through that in the 1930s when people said it didn't matter what was happening in poland in 1939, didn't matter when japan invaded china. that's not in america's interest. that's where the phrase "america first" came from in the 1930s, and we know how tragically that ended. we should not repeat it again. and we have to be in this for the long haul. that's what deterrence is about. if we're not there, it will be

much more difficult for our european allies to defend themselves against putin's russia. >> here's the thing. donald trump is not in power right now. we are talking about sort of the prospect of donald trump returning to power. i want to play some more of the person who is in power right now, president biden's remarks just this afternoon. >> just a few days ago, trump gave an invitation to putin to invade some of our nato allies. he said, if an ally didn't spend enough money on defense, he would encourage russia to, quote, do the hell whatever they want. can you imagine a former president of the united states saying that? the whole world heard it. the worst thing is he means it. no other president in our history has bowed down to a russian dictator. let me say this as clearly as i can -- i never will. for god's sake, it's dumb, it's shameful, dangerous, un-american.

>> i want to focus on that last point because there's american security at stake, america's role on the world stage, and also just values and identity questions that are happening in this moment. >> absolutely. the idea that the president of the united states would say or describe the words of a former president as un-american is actually mind-blowing. in the sense that donald trump is not acting in the interest of the united states in this regard. i think it's important for us to kind of interrogate the underpinnings of this move. the ambassador alluded to it. this america-first ideology, this idea of isolationism, is rooted in a very insidious view of america, right, that has all sorts of unseemly undertone, and trump is pushing it. and the republicans in the house of representatives who embrace

it fully, they exist. if we have to interrogate this, it's tied to why is nationalism, isolationism as he mentioned, but we have to understand the way it fundamentally goes against the post world war ii consensus. they've rejected wholesale -- we have to really understand what's motivating what seems to be trump just running his mouth. >> this idea of america first, molly, what happens with the bill in the house, speaker johnson saying, "national security begins with border security." their talking points refreshed after they killed the border security bill. but he can't even put it into context or into a framework. >> johnson says we're not going to protect ukraine's border unless we protect our own, right? a talking point cooked up in the rnc. depths are, like, okay, let's do

it. they negotiate this very, very tough border bill -- >> some members of their own party don't like. >> a lot. james lankford, chris murphy, kyrsten sinema for months, and he says i don't need to read it. it's dead on arrival. they're the burn-it-down caucus. their thesis is government is bad and we'll show you why. >> if i did that much work on absolutely anything and then one person came in and torpedoed it, it would be very angry, putting principles aside, the amount of work that was not honored. this legislative body, they have tried to put constraints on what a future president trump could do vis-a-vis nato. the thing is, if donald trump were to get back into the white house, he doesn't officially need to pull out of nato for the

alliance not to work. give me a sense, ambassador, of what that might look like. >> that's right. i'm glad biden signed into law that legislation about nato. but it won't matter if one of those countries are attacked or even threatened to be attacked. it doesn't take tanks rolling in. what if there's some kind of military operation in one of our countries in the nato alliance and mr. trump, if he's president, says, well, that's not an article 5 kind of threat, we're not doing that, we're not going to respond, that's the beginning of the end of the credibility of all of nato members, an attack on one is an attack on all. it's good that the legislation is there but it's not sufficient. another thing, he could begin to move our soldiers out of nato countries. the president has that power.

he could signal we are not committed, and that would be another thing they would do. then, when countries are faced with that, as, again, we learned from the 1930s, they start hedging their bets and start doing deals. in the '30s, it was with hitler. now it might be with putin's russia, and that is very detrimental to the security architecture in europe. finally, the thing that really drives me nuts about this debate, a lot of these republicans, they say, we have to be tough on china, this is not our problem. but these things are intertwined. if putin, russia's ally de facto, not de jure succeeds, that will em bowden xi jinping. i think it's just a misreading of history and of our moment today. >> ambassador, you frame it in terms of what it means for china in the way china is looking at it. if you were taiwan, saying i am

reliant on the u.s., i mean, the stakes for you are incredibly high not just in terms of the short-term package but in terms of the way in which america is positioning itself on the world stage. >> exactly. in fact, i was in taiwan a year and a half ago and had exactly this conversation. there's no group of people cheering more for the ukraines but also watching us and what we do there, because if we pull back now and we say "not our problem" now after two years, what kind of signal does that send to their society, to their soldiers in terms of how they protect their national security? i think what happens is it begins to create a conversation from some within taiwan to say better to do a deal with the people's republic of china because we cannot rely on the united states of america. >> let's just -- i had the ambassador walk through the possibility of trump were to win a second term and the ways he could undermine nato. say he loses, no second term.

to your point, it doesn't mean that this america first undermining of nato goes away, because it is now baked into the republican party, at least a wing of the party's dna. and that part, eddie, is the part that i don't know how you reckon with. some of those people down ballots will face competitive races, but there will be folk who is return for the next session of congress and are still carrying that ideological water, and that is dangerous too. >> right. i think first we have to unpack that ideology, understand its components, how insidious it is, understand gerrymander districts and the way in which those particular representatives feel like their seats are comfortable, that they have to bank to the right in order to maintain those seats in some ways, right? but i also think president biden's point today in his press conference was really important. we're at an inflection point with regards to our democracy domestically. we're also at a point in terms of the role of the u.s. and the world.

either you're going to side with the u.s. and our role in relation to democracy or you'll side with autocrats and dictators. that inflection point is so clear and we need to keep making it as clear as it can be. >> an on ed in "the new york times" said, "the former president's message was career -- if nato members do not pay up, he will leave them to the mercy of a continental aggressor who has plunged one european country into death, destruction, and devastation. except nato isn't a mafia protection racket." we talk about how this time, if he came back to power, he's more dangerous because he understands how the levers of government work, understands power more broadly. still, i think it is worth pointing out there are some glaring exceptions. he does not understand how any of this works, and there is a danger in that as well.

>> i couldn't agree more. in fact, in july of 2016, i wrote an op-ed called "mr. trump, nato is not a protection racket." exactly what was in the paper today in "the new york times" trying to explain, because trump had said something along those lines. what's clear to me from his comments a few days ago, despite being president for four years, despite being with secretary mattis and general mcmaster and other people that understand this, he hasn't learned. he's talking exactly the same ways, except now he's added an invitation to vladimir putin to invade our nato allies. so, the idea that somehow he's going to be better and more, you know -- understand the way these -- nato works, and i would say that about a lot of other issues, is just incorrect. it's exactly the opposite.

don't judge me. it's not my interpretation. it's actually his own words. he said it plain as day over the weekend in south carolina. >> molly, there's a dual audience for the presidential remarks from today. part of what he is doing is trying to assert himself so that our allies know he is in charge, that he does not share this view that trump has. it's also meant to tell any would-be adversaries or aggressors our position on nato remains firm. there's also the american public and electorate and the need to make an argument to them about safety, values. if you are democrats, right, how do you make that argument in a way that not gets your base out but compels someone who might be thinking about sitting on the sidelines? >> i mean, i think american democracy has been really upon lar. it used to be a nonpartisan thing until trump came along. so, i'm not sure it's as much of

an uphill battle as it seems. the magna caucus has definitely turned against it, but i do think that voters understand that -- i mean, it's a lot of money, but for a government it's not that much money. in there, by the way, is money for humanitarian aid, billions of dollars for humanitarian aid. i think this is expanive and pretty popular. it passed the senate with a lot of votes. i think if they can get a discharge petition and get it on the floor, it could get passed. i also think the idea of donald trump lectuing people about paying their bills -- that's pretty "rich." >> touche. when we return, as the disgraced ex-president looks to enable authoritarians overseas, there are new details on authoritarian names at home. new plans for a private red state deportation force. that's next. and it is a big week in the trump trials around this

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we have a chilling preview of what that would look like. the "atlantic" says he'll deliver on his promise to pursue the largest domestic deportation program in american history. "steven miller says a re-elected trump intends to requisition national guard troops. requests the impact of this proposal is incredibly broad with trump also promising to engage in ideological screening, saying he would reject migrant who is protest against israel's bombing campaign in gaza, including u.s. legal residents. the practical effects are a campaign of fear from millions including american citizens. one immigration attorney says, "what this means is the communities that are heavy hispanic or black, they'll be

living in absolute fear of a knock on the door whether or not they themselves are undocumented. what he's describing is a terrifying police state, the pretext of which is immigration." at a rally on friday for the nra, trump promised this would begin within moments of his inauguration. eddie, i think sometimes when we talk about donald trump's authoritarianism, it sounds as though it's going to be focused almost exclusively on people who already have power, it will be about his political adversaries, it will be about journalists who have been bold enough to report on him. we're talking about average everyday american citizens being scared about a knock on the door. we're talking about a radical misuse of presidential power, of government resources. and yet this specific example gives us a real sense of how he

and the team around him, the people who are responsible for things like child and parent separations of the u.s.-mexico border, how they are reimagining not just the immigration system but the policing system in this country. >> right. and developing the blueprint, the map to execute it in real time, right. i think this is really important for us to connect this conversation with the first segment. remember we were talking about the america-first ideology, which was isolationist. that was also nativist, anti-semitic, deeply racist. it gave us immigration law from 1924. it gave us immigration policies of the 1930s, which sent jews back to germany in so many ways. at the heart, for some folk, this deep idea that america must remain a white nation.

so, part of what we have to do is begin to kind of unpack this ideology. we think about it only in terms of the crisis at the border, and you have this guy who wants to in some ways outdo eisenhower's operation wetback. can you imagine? operation wetback. just the language. at the heart of it is this notion of whiteness that he's clinging to, that he thinks the nation is llosing, and if we don't understand that as the motivation behind this ideological position with regard to immigration, we'll lose of what's at stake here. >> i think for so long they have operated along a fake axis, right, people who are american citizens and are here in this country the right way, and then there are the people who are at our border who have come here the wrong way. none of that of course is true. but that is the frame they want to use. this is about the law and doing

things the right way. the part of where they are telling on themselves is they are saying, one, there will be an ideological screening, two, it could be american citizens who will get caught up in this, so their pretend axis, eddie, is falling apart. to your point, it is because that's never been what it's about. it's not about law and order. it is about a fundamentally different vision of america. >> absolutely. an ethno-nationalist state. it's the residual trace, the lingering implication of the civil war. we're still in it. so, you have national guard nationalized by donald trump will be deployed in blue states that refuse to abide by the victim. can you imagine? they're going to be deployed in cities, urban spaces, that make people who look like me and you

not only terrified but terrified for our children. this is not some dystopian fantasy. they're telling us out loud. and the interesting thing is we hear the historical echoes. this isn't something that comes out of the blue. it's something that we've done before as a nation. >> molly, when you hear this idea of red states and blue states and garnered resources in red states, bringing them to blue state, just that piece of things is terrifying. i might add, these are the people who overturned roe v. wade on the idea that state's e rights, right, that states should decide, states should make these decisions, that it shouldn't be a federal right anymore. of course that's a lie. i mean, what eddie -- we've talked about this a lot, this idea that this is -- trumpism is

this, you know, fight against a multiracial democracy. they don't want multiracial democracy. they want this throwback to this time of authoritarianism and the '30s. i think that it is really scary, and i think that also -- i think the majority of voters actually don't want that and that this is a very small group. but, again, that's how authoritarianism often works. >> let me talk to you about voters. a recent poll, the majority of voters blame republicans in congress, 53%, the democrats 51%, and biden 49%. just 39% blame trump, when he is the one that places the phone call and torpedos the deal, which means at minimum there is messaging work that needs to be done. >> yeah. no question. the democrats have always had trouble messaging and they need to message like american democracy depends on it, because it does.

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$370 million civil fraud trial which nbc news reports is expected to come this friday. joining our conversation, former deputy assistant attorney general harry lipman. molly is back with us. harry, what can we expect on thursday? >> this is a huge week. we're talking about something big happening in five cases. he's like a pinball in an old-style pinball game caroming around from here and there. we can expect the judge to set a court date probably staying with march 25th. no reason not to. and disposing quickly of pretrial motions. the other big hearing will be in fulton county where judge mcafee has indicated that recusing or disqualifying fani willis is at least on the table, and he

intends to hold an evidentiary hearing that could be quite the circus given that the defendants are claiming that the prosecutor fudged a little on when the. >> referee: relationship when it started but the judge seems to think it will. in addition to that, many mar-a-lago, judge cannon is deciding a tricky claim, and the most important of them all, the supreme court will decide what to do with the d.c. circuit ruling on immunity. that decision could come as soon as friday. i think it's likely to come by next week. a lot is happening. >> a lot is happening. doesn't it feel, harry, every week, there is a lot happening? to friday, if we get that verdict from the judge, judge

engoron, what will you look for? >> the amount for starters because i think he'll go a little under what james is looking for but what will he do with the extra information from the judge who has said that the trump team is still disorganized, possibly what he's going to do with the perspective guilty plea of weisselberg. then most importantly i think, will he pull the trigger on saying, as the a.g. has asked him to say, trump cannot be in the real estate business at all, even can't carry a sandwich board advertising apartments, and he can't be a director or officer of any corporation in new york. that would be a huge body blow in addition to what is now on appeal with the certificates. >> that visual will stay with

me. molly, these are new york-based cases, "the new york times" writing, "the dual threats represent a turning point in mr. trump's legal odyssey. the week that could reshape his personal and presidential fortunes as he marches toward the republican nomination." as a new yorker, what does it mean that these two huge cases are happening in new york? >> he comes from here. anyone -- i grew up here, so i have lived through many iterations of donald trump, all of them kind of bad, this one definitely the worst. but i think that certainly all new yorkers, we all feel somewhat responsible for this authoritarian nightmare we unleashed on the united states. >> some might disagree, burr it's a question about brand. so much of his brand was originally rooted in new york. the fact these could be the cases that are, you know, adding

e. jean carroll, the first to hold him accountable, is notable. >> it is. and he thinks him being a candidate will somehow help him in court, and you see that. like, he's showing up to -- he's using these courts as campaign rallies, making these speeches, and it's ultimately hurting him in court. the number on the -- the e. jean carroll number didn't have to be that high. it was his grandstanding. >> a question of whether he thinks showing up as a candidate helps him. harry, these two cases, do you think it shows the limits of trump's team's strategy to delay? >> there's no limits to the strategy to delay, but we may be coming to the end of the line for him. the most important by par if is what happens in the immunity case and if the supreme court takes it, in which case, i think we're looking at an expedited

decision, but even so around may, and if it returns immediately to chutkan. the second thing on the delay train is, if somehow mcafee bounces fani willis, i think it's clear that we are off docket for any hope of having that trial in fulton county happen this year. i think all eyes are on the civil cases, which are going to hurt him, and especially the election interference case, will that return to chutkan. a quick plug for the bragg case. you mentioned he's claiming it is election interference. it's obviously what it is, what trump was trying to do, keep that news from getting out and affecting his electoral fortune. i think the theory is really sound. >> which also allows it to narratively fit into the broader set of cases. harry litman, thank you. ahead, jon stewart's return to the "daily show," his skewering of the 2024 election, and how he dismantles the latest

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he was an undeniable voice in american life, an essential voice in our politics for so long, then jon stewart retired, leaving us to make our way through the trump years without him. nine years later, he's back on the show mondays through the general election. last night was his first show back, and while he was an

equal-opportunity critic sparing no one, it was something to see him train his sights on donald trump. here's how stewart brought up president biden's interview with special counsel robert hur. >> the footage of the president unable to recall simple facts must have been brutal to watch. >> james webb. >> i don't remember him. i don't remember ever buying something for myself. >> do you recall what years you were married to miss maples? >> hmm. >> i mean, i don't remember that. my memory is off on that. >> you don't remember say diminishing. >> i don't. [ cheers and applause ] i'm sorry. that was the wrong -- that was the wrong footage. that's the high-functioning candidate from nine years ago unable to recall if he has a good memory.

>> joining us now, former congressman from florida and msnbc political analyst david jolly. molly is back. what comes to mind for me, david, is that sometimes showing is more powerful than telling, which i feel like you have been trying to nudge us all towards that. there you go. there it is. >> yeah. thank you, jon stewart. i think the broad question is, sure, is age a limiting factor. based on president biden's first-term performance, the answer is no. competency might be a limiting factor but not for joe biden. it was donald trump. donald trump misidentified his own wife in a photo, in a photo of the deposition in the e. jean carroll case. he thought we could use nuclear weapons to blow up hurricanes. it was donald trump who thought we stole planes from the british during the revolutionary war. if competency -- let's be

generous and say it plays to a tie. age is not a limiting factor. competency is for trump. now what are the stakes between the two candidates? the press does well but voters need to focus their attention between now and november, between the two candidates. who is going to secure democracy for generations to come? who's going to protect individual freedoms, individual liberties. who's going to continue to grow an economy for all people, access to education, affordable health care. we know who that is. it is president biden. age is indifferent to the question of competency and fitness and ability to lead. that consequence is clear. that's what jon was getting at. >> my guests have incredible senses of humor, but that's not what we're paid to do. one interesting thing about john stoourts is he uses humor as a way in, but he is extraordinarily smart, he is

very well prepared. he has done some of the best and most provocative interviews that we have seen in the past two years holding folks to account. when he is earnest, it breaks through because it's not his daily drugmakerbeat. one of the most striking moments of the show was this. >> the work of making this world resemble one that you would prefer to live in is a lunch pail [ bleep ] job day in and day out where thousands of committed anonymous, smart, and dedicated people bang on closed doors and pick up those that are fallen and grind away on issues till they get a positive result. and even then they have to stay on to make sure that result holds. so, the good news is i'm not saying you don't have to worry about who wins the election.

i'm saying you have to worry about every day before it and every day after, forever. [ cheers and applause ] although, on the plus side, i am told that at some point the sun will run out of hydrogen. >> so, very obvious why that point spoke to me, but the two things that i loved there, one, this is the work of everyday people, the people on capitol hill, and yes there are the people running to be president of the united states, but it is all of us who are doing the work and this idea that, yes, november is on the horizon, but we have to focus on every day leading up to november and every day that follows. we will be out of the woods regardless of who wins. that point seems important. >> yeah. no. look, we live in this attention economy now, right, so anything that can get our attention to this enormous and very important

"do you want to have elections anymore" election is important. i think that jon stewart came back because he knows that we live in attention economy and he's trying to get people to focus on politics again. that's really important. i don't think this was a person who wanted to come out of retirement. i think he'll get his sea legs. the guy is incredible. he's a genius. and i think that, you know -- this is a very different time than nine years ago. everything is much higher stakes than nine years ago. he'll be an important voice in this election. that point, it i a very different moment that we find ourselves in, david, when it comes to media and the state of our democracy, but that last point, right, it is so clear and it's such a well-defined ethos for what we're to see, the stakes are democracy, and democracy does not happen on one

day. it is constant. it is day in, it is day out. if that is the one message that breaks through to someone who was otherwise disengaged that, seems well worth the time. >> yeah, what jon stewart did very effectively is he brought people home to what matters. what preceded much of his conversation was acknowledging the frustration of many americans that we are seeing a biden/trump rematch. we know by the numbers statistically people might like to see a different matchup. what jon stewart showed us how, that's not in election. we don't have that choice. in you want to commit yourself to structural reform of the parties or primary system or embrace public financing of campaigns, great. that's an effort we should undertake to expand access of voters and candidates but this this cycle item now it is joe biden, a candidate committed to advancing democrat a and individual liberty versus an authoritarian in donald trump who will use the levers of

government for his own reasons. the choice is clear. you might not like it. it may not be sexy. it's a job but it's a job that if we're successful at in november protects democracy for our kids and their kids to come. >> we need more voices in that. david and molly, thank you. we'll sneak in a quick break and be right back. i'm 70-ish. consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. with this type of plan, you'll know upfront about how much your care costs. which makes planning your financial future easier. so call unitedhealthcare today to learn more about the only plans of their kind with the aarp name. and set yourself and your future self up with an aarp medicare supplement plan from unitedhealthcare.

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thank you for spending your tuesday with us. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now. boy, political tempers are flaring in washington. we have two special guests, nobel winning "the new york times" columnist professor klugman and our friend, chai komanduri. you can see the tease on the screen. they will join us to discuss this klatsch over the trump era prosecutor's report which as i've told you legally cleared biden of any potential crime involving classify material. same result as, say, mike pence, but in places that report as i bet you've heard unloaded on the president because he had said he didn't remember certain things, and some of those answers that are in the report as not part of