for that terrific interview with nikki haley. and i just want to give you a little bit more of a reporting to all of you from our hill reporters, correspondents, because they have talked to several people on the record here. it turns out that senate intel chair mark warner and vice chair marco rubio, both of them were briefed about this on the national security threat that mike turner on the house side has identified. or not identified but flagged and that it is not something immediate apparently according to jim himes of connecticut who's on the intel committee, a house member. it's not that martians are going to land right now in the u.s., but it is something of concern, and it is apparently related to the supplemental and to the issues that the supplemental raised so you'll hear more from our hill correspondents from ryan nobles in the next hour. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell

reports." "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. can the president turn his worst issue into a winning one? on the heels of tom suozzi's big win in new york, biden is now vowing to lean into the congressman-elect's immigration strategy, tried to flip the script on his republican foes, but can that work when polls show him trailing trump on the issue by more than 30 points. and the impeachment of dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas squeaks through the house. now the senate is required to hold a trial. how much political oxygen will that take up before the senate puts the whole thing on ice? when it comes to changing gun laws, pleas from survivors have not moved the needle, but what if those pleas came from those who didn't survive? a new campaign using ai to allow people killed in mass shootings to lobby lawmakers on capitol

hill. my conversation with david hog, a survivor of parkland and one of the people behind the effort coming up. but we start with house republicans one seat weaker while democrats are one seat stronger and buoyed by a new shot of optimism as they look ahead for the fight to control congress in november. tom suozzi's decisive victory in the intense fight to replace george santos potentially providing a road map for how to win a flipable district all over the country. >> this race was fought amidst a closely divided electorate. much like our whole country. this race was centered on immigration and the economy much like the issues all across our country. we won this race, we, you, won this race. [ cheers and applause ]

because we addressed the issues and we found a way to bind our divisions. so now we have to carry the message of this campaign to the united states congress and across our entire country. >> suozzi essentially ran against conventional wisdom leaning into the local headlines of the huge influx of migrants into the district. democrats, particularly the president, are paying close attention. nbc news hearing from the white house that the president now plans to use suozzi's strategy. i want to bring in nbc senior political reporter sahil kapur, jen paul mary served under president obama and communications director for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, she's an msnbc political analyst, and charlie dent served as former republican congressman from pennsylvania. good to have you all here.

sahil, republicans won the district just 15 months ago by eight points, and then suozzi flipped it last night winning by essentially the same margin. explain what he did that president biden now wants to emulate. >> reporter: it was certainly a resounding victory for tom suozzi, last night this district has been fluid, it voted for joe biden in 2020 by eight points. it voted for george santos in 2022 by eight points, and now tom suozzi is winning it by, guess what, eight points. how did he do it? in two ways. he did it by exploiting the national issues where he's strong on, things like abortion rights and gun control, that district favored him on those,s and he put his republican opponent in a difficult spot. she struggled with those two issues. he also did it by neutralizing his biggest vulnerability, and the biggest vulnerability of president biden and democrats all over the country in battleground districts right now, which is as you just

mentioned, the issue of migration and the border. he endorsed this bipartisan deal to toughen asylum and border laws. he tried to turn it around, he went on offense of accusing ma zee phillips of taking orders by trump, in his view because she wanted to use chaos as a political weapon rather than solve the issue. that strategy worked and that's a strategy that democrats have been eyeing very closely. the white house told us in a statement first to nbc news that tom suozzi put the strategy front and center and there was a resounding rejection of the republican strategy. quote, the american people see through congressional republicans elevation of their personal politics over the safety of the country. their view is either they'll use it to pressure speaker mike johnson to allow a vote on this bill and take the policy victory. and if not, they'll use the politics and try to beat republicans over the head with it with voters around the country. nevertheless, democrats are feeling very good about this victory and what it means for the house. take a listen to what tom suozzi voters told me last night at his

watch party. >> now we've got to convert that to more wins by the democrats. we now have a game plan and we have an infrastructure we didn't have before. >> this shows we can win on long island. if we win on long island, we can flip the house. >> reporter: republicans argue this is a unique situation. they say tom suozzi had unique advantages like a cash advantage and a higher name i.d. that cannot be replicated on a national scale. we'll see which party is right. >> even if you think this could be used or replicated by folks running in purple districts across the country, a little different, right, than biden trying to use it as a blueprint for his own campaign, and i think the problem you can see in the latest nbc news poll, voters are already blaming biden for the border problems by a huge margin. trump's got a 35 point advantage, same thing with crime. trump's up 21 points. so jen, even though tom suozzi was able to turn these issues to his advantage, is it maybe a

bridge too far to think the president can? >> i think -- because i think what really the tom suozzi advantage here was about being first solutions and having it be obvious that republicans were standing in the way of solutions and that republicans were hypocritical. that applies to immigration, to economic issues, to women's rights. that approach can apply to issues across the board, and you know, voters are smart. they see what's happening in the house of representatives. they see that they are not passing anything productive. they said there needed to be a border security bill. they wouldn't allow a bipartisan one to pass, and instead they impeached mayorkas. because they said he wasn't doing his job, but he also didn't have the right tools because we need to pass the bill but we won't do it, right? i think what biden can do. the truth is, chris, and i have been advocating this for a while, for the white house to argue, there are more border agents under president biden at the border than there have ever been in the history of the

country. he has asked for more money from congress than any president has ever asked and congress won't fund it. there's a solution on the table that the white house is behind that congress won't pad, right? that is the advantage. i have a solution and they won't take it and, you know, maybe he doesn't catch up to trump, you know, maybe he doesn't make up 30 points, but you can make up some ground, but moreover, you're making a larger argument about democrats being for solutions, the president being for solutions, and then republicans standing in the way because they're doing what donald trump wants and he doesn't want to solve the problem. >> well, obviously the dscc either is talking to you or listening to you because i want to show the ad they just put out that kind of echoes what you just said. here it is. >> republicans are the ones who insisted on a border deal above everything else, and now they're backing out. are they lawmakers or are they 5-year-olds at dinner time?

>> senate republicans won't keep us safe is the bottom line message there, jen, but let me go back to do people say biden had his chance. he didn't fix it. >> i think that that's -- that is -- he can say this is everything i've done to fix it, and congress won't act. that is true, and it is very believable. i mean, not a lot of people want to hear this, but as a percentage, deportations are up under president biden. they are higher than they were -- deportations at the border are higher than they were with president trump. there is a strong story to tell. i think that -- and suozzi showed how you can do it, still have -- still keep your democratic base, get moderates to vote for you, get a 16-point

swing. so the president really does -- the truth is the president's hands are tied. there's only so much that he can do. they've exhausted all their options. congress has to act, and that's a very credible thing to argue when all the country sees from the house is them taking political votes like impeaching mayorkas after they said they would pass a border bill that now they won't do because trump doesn't want them to. people will -- it's true, so this will make sense to people. >> so congressman, look, jen is right, as she usually is, that there was a key part of suozzi's message that we don't want to lose, which was that the other side is being obstructionist, and he said that last night. here it is. >> the people of long island and queens are sick and tired of the political bickering. they've had it. they want us to come together and solve problems. let's send a message to our friends running the congress

these days, stop running around for trump and start running the country. >> so against that backdrop, congressman, we're expecting speaker johnson and house republicans to do trump's bidding again today and torpedo the newly passed foreign aid bill. so i wonder if you're a house republican running in a purple district. are you thinking twice today before voting no? >> i think house republicans would be very smart to take up the senate bill as passed, add the border provisions, add the border provisions that were rejected in the senate and pass it. i believe congressional republicans committed a severe act of political malpractice by walking away from the delicately negotiated border bill that james lankford and senator murphy worked on. they had a good deal, and they threw it away. biden was in a very defensive position, and democrats were in

a very defensive position on the border, but now they basically let the democrats back in. tom suozzi very effectively capitalized on that issue. his opponent, she rejected the bill foolfoolishly, with immigrn being the big issue. if you're a house republican today, you really need to get your heads right on this and vote for the foreign assistance and put the border provisions back in, send it to the senate. >> but you don't think they're going to do it, do you? >> no, i don't, but i just saw that congressman brian fitzpatrick and some of the problem solvers caucus are talking about doing something just like that. they need to do this. johnson is in an unsustainable political position. he cannot be the speaker that allows ukraine to fail and allows putin to prevail. he can't be in that position. he has -- johnson has members within his own conference, republican conference who want to support ukraine funding and they want to vote on it.

so the question for johnson is is he going to placate these hard-liners who didn't want -- who don't want to support ukraine, who wanted to whether or not he -- blow up the border deal or is he going to listen to his members who do want ukraine funding and frankly most of whom want that border security deal. johnson's got to make a choice. i think he's in a real predicament. >> sahil kapur, thank you. a quick programming note first, the latest effort of jennifer paul mary and claire mccaskill's how to win 2024 podcast is now available. scan that qr code on your screen and you can listen as soon as this program is over. in an historic move, house republicans vote to impeach dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas. now the ball is in the senate's court can. where does it go next? we'll explain in 60 seconds. we'll explain in 60 seconds.

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today on capitol hill, the senate is bracing for an impeachment trial that is doomed to fail, but which they're required to take up anyway. even some republicans are complaining about it. kevin cramer telling nbc news that last night's vote to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas is the worst, dumbest exercise and use of time. so house republicans are trying to amp up the political pressure on their senate colleagues now. >> if they ignore this and just throw it in the trash can without taking it as seriously as the american people do, then there will be accountability and consequences to that action, so it's on the senate. they have to do their job, but the good news is this house republican majority, as razor thin as it is, once again did our job. we are going to fight to secure the border. >> joining us now, peter baker, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and an msnbc

political analyst. back with us, jennifer palmieri and former congressman charlie dent. peter, ken buck was one of three republicans who voted no and said this. >> you can try to put lipstick on this pig. it is still a pig, and this is a terrible impeachment. it sets a terrible precedent. the first impeachment of donald trump was a bad impeachment, and we've got to stop this in this body or we are going to lose our credibility with -- further lose our credibility with the american public. >> so before we get too much into the weeds here, peter, give us the big picture. what did republicans really gain here, and do voters view this as accountability or just plain payback? >> well, look, obviously they aren't speaking to a particular constituency that is upset about the border. there has been a crisis at the border and republicans in the house are trying to say that it's joe biden's fault and obviously through joe biden, his secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas. if you had a parliamentary

system where you have a vote of no confidence, it might make sense for them to vote no confidence in secretary mayorkas because they don't feel like he's done the job well. what we're talking about with impeachment is meant to be something stopping corruption in government, abuse of power, that sort of thing, and that's what you're hearing ken buck and some of these dissident republicans saying, they are weaponizing a policy dispute. a dispute in which they think secretary mayorkas is not doing a good job, but they don't really have a case that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. >> president biden put out a statement calling the impeachment a blatant act of unconstitutional partisanship and a political stunt that he says targeted an honorable public servant. even if you agree with that, is the problem for the president that republicans are -- peter mentioned this -- they're messaging this as this is president biden. this is the administration, the whole thing is messed up. so in that sense as a political

weapon, was yesterday a victory for them? >> no. i mean, look what happened last night, you know, with steve scalise said there's going to be accountability. there was accountability for how congress handled the last night in the third district of new york. there was accountability because a very -- a good, effective candidate made the argument again and again that the border is a crisis, that there is a way too solvent, there is a bipartisan solution to do it. i am for it. the president is for it, and the republicans are hypocrites and stand in the way of doing it, right? that is what is breaking through. the american people aren't stupid, they know that impeaching mayorkas isn't going to do anything. they've heard republicans say for a year plus that there needs to be legislation passed to deal with the border, and now they won't -- and now they won't do it. you know, so it is -- and trump didn't fix the border either,

right? trump didn't build the wall. trump didn't do what he said he was going to do. so i think immigration is a key trump issue, right? it's sort of core to his base. he may always have some kind of advantage over biden when you look at numbers on immigration because of that, but they have -- but it has rightfully become a vulnerability, particularly for house republicans because of how -- you know, chip roy, congressman chip roy, republican said it himself, we've done nothing. this house republican congress has done nothing, and that is catching up to them. >> congressman, take a listen to what some house republicans said about the message that they think impeachment sent. >> i think this also sends a message to america that republicans can get our job done when we work together and do what's important and what the american people want us to do. >> how does impeaching manor kas actually help fix thing at the border? >> it sends a message we're not going to take lying to congress.

>> i think the american people have been asking for accountability. you can't argue with the failures of mayorkas. >> so of course peter's right, congressman, that's what the base wants to hear, but can they successfully argue to the middle, the voters in purple districts that democrats have failed when trump, as jen said, did not solve the problem, and they blocked the border bill? >> well, the message that house republicans sent was not a good one, to be perfectly candid. what they did is, okay, they impeached mayorkas, he didn't commit a high crime or misdemeanor. these are policy differences. impeachment shouldn't be used for this. but they did this just maybe several days after they rejected a border compromise that got many right of center policy victories on asylum and other issues. so this is a very mixed message, not a good one. this is symbolic. the senate is going to dismiss this whole matter in short order, so i think this is a fundamental error. i'll go right back to what the

house ought to be doing right now, forcing speaker johnson to put the senate compromise on border into foreign aid package and pass it, speaker won't do it, they ought to force a discharge petition, and by the way, i did that, there have only been two successful ones in the last 100 years. but the bottom line is they need to force the discharge and action on that senate border provision because this message of mayorkas being impeached is frankly, it's meaningless, even if he did resignresign, biden w have appointed another to carry out his policies anyway. impeach the next guy too, it's ridiculous. bad messaging bill, and misuse of the impeachment process. >> i want to dig a little more into whether or not the senate can indeed get rid of this in short order. i think when the senate trial for mayorkas starts in what we're hearing as soon as after the presidents' day recess, no other business can happen on the senate floor. so you've got beyond other

things too fast approaching government funding deadlines. you've got the national security supplemental still waiting for action. does this trial risk further constraining congress? >> well, look, obviously they're going to have to figure out how to handle it. there are options for the senate democrats who still have a majority in the upper chamber. they could decide to dismiss the case. they could have an up or down vote on the beginning of the trial in effect saying we don't even see a case worth hearing here and have a vote to see if they'll achieve a majority, which presumably they would. the other option is to send it to committee for, you know, further investigation, consideration, actually most impeachments i think this is right, congress would know better, of judges, for instance, most impeachments tend to go to a committee rather than to the floor right away. we see it go to the floor right away with presidents obviously, but with anybody below a president, they have the option to sort of say to part of the senate saying you guys look at this first and tell us what we think we should do, that could

postpone it or help bury it. so they have some options there. >> could i ask you really quickly because we're about out of time. house speaker mike johnson said again he wants to meet with the president, and he says he's been asking for a month to sit down with him, and he won't do it. should president biden meet with the speaker or does it look bad if he says no? >> i don't think anybody -- i don't think honestly, chris, like nobody is paying attention to what mike johnson is saying about meeting with biden. when there's a legitimate -- they have no -- mean no disrespect. they have no credibility on being able to govern. and when there is a -- you know, we're coming up on another funding deadline, if it's productive for president biden to sit down with leaders, i'm sure he will do it, but the white house has gotten through, has the credibility here, and also they've figured out how to keep the government open with bipartisan -- with a bipartisan vote, they'll probably figure it out this time. and the president will decide where to meet with the

leadership. >> jen palmieri, peter baker, former congressman charlie dent, thanks to all of you. donald trump again bashing nato after president biden condemned his comments as un-american. how is this affecting our allies abroad? democratic senator chris coons will join me next. democratic senator chris coons will join me next. las vegas grand prix choose t-mobile for business for 5g solutions. because t-mobile is helping power operations and experiences for hundreds of thousands of fans with reliable 5g connectivity. now's the time to accelerate your business.

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allies. germany's chancellor is now calling trump's remarks irresponsible and dangerous, echoing president biden. >> no president in our history has ever bowed down to a russian dictator. let me say this as clearly as i can, i never will. for god sake, it's dumb. it's shameful. it's dangerous. it's un-american. >> but shortly after those comments, trump once again demanded that nato countries pay up, and now that threat is sure to be at the center of discussions among international leaders at the munich security conference later this week. i want to bring in democratic senator chris coons. you're leaving for munich tonight. so i wonder in advance of this trip what you're hearing about the nervousness from nato allies. >> well, chris, this weekend dozens of leaders from around europe, north america, and the world will be gathering at the annual munich security conference. the future of nato and the reliability of the united states as an anchor ally of nato is

going to be on the menu, on the agenda. i was recently in poland and slovakia with my republican colleague mike rounds, and both of those governments have exceeded the 2% of gdp spending that's been a commitment for a long time. in fact, poland is spending 4% of their gdp. they have been forceful and reliable partners in our work against russia's invasion of ukraine. absolutely -- >> can i stop you -- >> -- every head of state asks me can we count on the united states if donald trump is your next president and the shocking comments by former president trump reinforce that they have good reason to be concerned. >> i want to ask you because not everybody may understand the 2% gdp, right? so trump has, i think, effectively messaged that other countries aren't paying their dues and owe us a tremendous amount of money. i hear that from voters. it's not true.

there aren't dues. there is that guideline, 2% of gdp for investing in their own defense, and as you say, that amount is growing in many countries. but trump has been successful on this issue, and not just with his rabid base. it's easy to understand, oh, they're not paying their dues, you're paying it instead, they owe us money, right? so how should democrats be countering that? >> first, by saying that's just not true and it's wrong. it's a profound misunderstanding of nato, its purpose, its history, its funding, and its function. nato is a collective security alliance. it has only invoked article 5 of the nato treaty once in defense of the united states, and our nato allies deployed to afghanistan alongside us after 9/11. they lost men and women in the line of duty in combat. they contributed millions, even

billions of dollars fighting alongside us for 20 years. the united states asked our nato allies to step up, and they did. so the idea that somehow they owe us dues and that this is some protection racket where a former president like donald trump can threaten to throw them to the russian wolves if they don't pay up is a laughable and insulting mischaracterization of nato. nato is about protecting each other through collective security, investments, and modernization. today russia's invasion of ukraine is the latest challenge to nato unity, and president biden has capably led a global effort to mobilize 50 countries, most of them the members of nato, but not all, and together they have contributed more than we have to the defense of ukraine. they have accepted millions of refugees. we haven't done that. they have provided billions in economic support to ukraine, and

they've provided most of their military equipment in stocks that have been needed. the united states has been a key part of this effort, but bluntly, our allies have been at the forefront. so what president trump, former president trump has said is an insulting mischaracterization of how nato works. >> so let me ask you about something else that's going on on the hill, if i can, senator. the house intel chair, mike turner, released a statement just a short time ago that said his committee has made available to all members of congress information concerning a serious national security threat, though he does not name that threat. national security adviser jake sullivan talked at the white house press briefing and last hour said people should not panic. >> i personally reached out to the gang of eight. it is highly unusual, in fact, for the national security adviser to do that. i did that to set up a meeting, the senate's not here, the four house members have agreed to that meeting this is well before

congressman turner came out today. we'll have that conversation tomorrow. i'm not going to say anything further. >> so i don't know how much you've read in on this. do you know what the threat is, how serious it is, and turner's point that he makes in this statement that he put out is that he wants president biden to declassify all the information so that it can be public and it can be dealt with. would you be in favor of that? >> we should not be conducting sensitive national intelligence and security discussions by press release and on cable news interviews. i have reached out to colleagues on the intelligence committee and in the intelligence community. i am not alarmed. i think this is a significant issue but one that is well understood and is being dealt with, and beyond that, i really shouldn't say anything. >> senator chris coons, safe travels to munich. we thank you for taking the time to talk to us. let's get more on the national security threat that mike turner just referenced.

for that i want to bring in nbc's ryan nobles. give us a little more background in what we know and don't know. >> reporter: yeah, we don't know a whole lot to be honest with you, chris. we are trying to piece together the impressions that these members of the house are getting after they leave a secure location here on capitol hill where they're getting a briefing on this piece of intelligence that the intelligence chairman mike turner believes should be declassified. we do have one democratic source said that it is a serious issue that could lead to a destabilizing situation and did describe it as a national security threat and also a potential foreign threat that source said but didn't provide many specifics around that. we do know that the ranking member on the intelligence committee, congressman jim himes described that it wasn't a situation that the average american should be concerned about, that their safety in the moment would be at risk. made it akin to as if there were some threat of martians coming down from the sky. that's not the way it would be

described, but it is something that the national security professionals need to be aware of and need to prepare for. so there's any myriad number of issues, obviously there are a number of conflicts happening all around the world, chris, where this particular issue could play a role in those various conflicts, so it's probably not wise for us to speculate. but obviously there are a number of supplemental aid packages that the house has in front of them after being passed by the senate, aid to ukraine, aid to israel, aid to the indo-pacific. that right now is stalled as the house speaker mike johnson is trying to deliberate exactly what should happen with that package, it's not too much of an assumption to deduce that that national security package could either aid or provide some sort of support to this intelligence that mike turner seems so concerned about, and may be part of the reason why he is rushing

the information out to members of congress before they leave town for the long break. it's also important to point out, as jake sullivan pointed out in his briefing, the senate isn't in session. there are no senators here. that makes it difficult for them to take this information in because they won't be able to collect it in a secure space as members of the house are able to do right now. so chris, obviously this is all really vague, and i'm sorry that we can't be more specific about it, it's something we too need to be careful about, but we're doing our best to get to the bottom of exactly what the chairman is talking about. >> ryan nobles, we thank you so much for that. i also want to bring in nbc's julie tsirkin on the hill. i understand you've just spoken to the speaker of house, what did he tell you? >> the speaker came over to our camera and made this statement. he did not take questions, but he said he wanted to reassure the american public they have the situation under control. of course he is referring to those comments made by the top republican on the house intelligence committee vaguely sort of the statement we didn't know what he was referring to, but certainly as you sees part

of that on your screen, johnson had said in part he will press the administration to take appropriate action and that everyone can be comforted by that. he said i want to assure the american people that there is no need for alarm. johnson did say, however, that he requested this meeting with the president last month. he said it concerned this urgent national security matter. again, he did not disclose what that matter was. we do know at this point according to sources we spoke to that this has something to do with a foreign military capability. certainly we're asking our sources who are getting these briefings, including tomorrow, one that john listen will be a part of with the four top leaders of the house, what exactly this is referring to. an ominous threat unveiled by that statement by chairman turner clearly johnson trying to calm everybody down and ensure they do have the situation under control, chris. >> julie tsirkin, thank you, appreciate it. and coming up, israel ordereds the evacuation of one of the last functioning hospitals in gaza as negotiations continue, fighting for a hostage deal. we'll head to jerusalem for the

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people are sheltering. meanwhile, in neighboring lebanon, the israeli military carried out an extensive wave of air strikes targeting militants, retaliation for a deadly rocket attack in northern israel that sharp escalation now adding new urgency to truce talks underway right now in cairo. it is against that complicated backdrop that negotiators are pressing for a deal to pause the fighting in gaza, free the hostages, and hopefully calm tensions throughout the regions, but the clock is ticking in places like nasser hospital. molly hunter is reporting from jerusalem. what more do we know about the situation around that hospital? >> reporter: chris, the clock is ticking, and actually, we have had a crew inside the nasser medical complex, one of the last remaining and certainly the biggest functioning hospitals in the south of gaza all day, and i can share a little bit of their reporting. israeli forces as you say, ordered palestinians to evacuate at this hospital earlier today.

doctors say the israeli snipers, israeli tanks besieged the area earlier today, and we have heard those gunshots in the video that our crew was able to capture. doctors say that people are being shot as they attempt to flee, and the israeli military said in their initial announcement, chris, that civilians should flee somewhere safer. as we have discussed, chris, often, as we have talked to people and civilians and doctors who are there, there is no clear path, there is no clear space for people to go, and you hear that shooting right there, that is what doctors say has been happening all day at the nasser medical complex, and dr. herrera describes the situation in more depth. >> no one can get out also outside of the hospital, a lot of injured there here outside the hospital. we are afraid to lose our life. my friend yesterday get shot by

israeli army. the snipers are everywhere around the hospital in every building. >> reporter: chris, doctors like dr. herrera are refusing to leave their patients, and actually, minutes ago we just got an update from the gaza health ministry with some real numbers at this hour. 1,500 displaced people are currently sheltering at the hospital. thousands left earlier today. that also includes 190 staff, 299 members of their family, and 273 patients, chris, including those in the icu who cannot move. now, other details that we got from our crew on the ground is that strikes have been getting closer and closer to that medical complex. yesterday a medical equipment storage facility was burned to the ground. sewage is now flooding into the hospital, which is also raising the real fears of disease spreading, and all of this,

chris, as you say, is against the back drops of those headlines that you read out in the intro, but also prime minister netanyahu's real push to possibly invade and send a ground incursion into rafa. he actually just tweeted moments ago we will fight until the absolute victory, and this includes a powerful action also in rafa after we allow the civilian population to leave the battle zones. leaving the battle zones is something that the u.n., that international organizations and the u.s. says would be catastrophic for the nearly 1.4 million civilians who are already displaced in that tiny area. chris. >> molly hunter, thank you. a new and haunting move from gun reform activists using victims of shootings and ai to get the attention of congress, next, we'll ask one of the leaders of the movement about the new technique and the potential impact. like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and irregular heartbeat could be something more serious

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and staff at marjorie stoneman douglas high. i want to remind you, what you're about to hear is ai generated and it is difficult to listen to. >> hello, i'm juaquin oliver. six years ago, i was a senior at parkland. many students and teachers were murdered on valentine's day that year by a person using an ar-15, but you don't care. you never did. it's been six years, and you've done nothing, not a thing to stop all the shootings that have continued it happen since. how many calls will it take for you to care. how many dead voices will you hear before you finally listen. joining us now is cofounder for march for our lives and former student at marjorie stoneman douglas high, david hogg. that is powerful, entirely a survivor driven effort, led my juaquin's father, manny oliver, and a number of other families. what impact do you hope this leaves on lawmakers who get this

call? >> i hope it makes them uncomfortable because i see the pain all the time, whenever i work around the parents of victims of gun violence or their family members. it is incredibly hard work for them to do this. and we need to become proactive and get people's attention before there's another shooting, not just after it happens. if we're doing that, we're losing traction. my hope, when members of congress get these calls, either they're our allies, they recommit to this issue or if there are people who take nra blood money they're reminded of the lives that are stolen as a result. >> one of those lives, and i want to play another ai-generated call was a 10-year-old killed at robb elementary in uvalde, texas. >> hi, this is uzi garcia. i love video games, telling jokes and making my friends laugh and jumping on the trampoline with my family. i'm a 4th grader at robb elementary school in uvalde,

texas. or at least i was. when a man with an ar-15 came into my school and killed 18 of my classmates, two teachers, and me. that was almost two years ago. nothing has changed. even more shootings have happened. >> i cannot imagine being a family member and hearing that. can you talk about the bravery of these families and the decision that they made, why it was so important for them to do this? >> it's not easy. one of the parents of uzi whose voice you just heard i was with this morning, right in front of the capitol when that same message you just heard was played. it was the first time that his mother heard it, and she broke down. this is not easy for the families. it's not easy for the survivors. but they know that they have to do this because unfortunately the people behind me in the capitol are not taking action, and they have no other choice.

what i would ask people to do, though, is to join and support these parents like manuel oliver, and so many others that have participated in this project, and what they can do is they can go to theshotline.org. and have a call put in to their member of congress, and using one of the victims' voices with their parents permission that can call the member of congress, and say you need to do something. my hope with this is that our members of congress, our representatives remember that they're here to represent the american people. they're not here to represent the nra. they're here to represent people like uzi and ensure they have safe futures and a safe country to live in. gun violence is the leading cause of death. it doesn't cost any money. >> nobody follows this any more closely than you do, give us a reality check. is there a piece of legislation with this congress you think has

some, any likelihood of passing and i'm wondering who you're meeting with while your there in d.c.? >> honestly, my hope is that we're able to get stuff through appropriations because we don't have to deal with the filibuster there, more research funding. really my focus has shifted as much as possible to really the state legislatures around the country where we're able to change gun laws more easily. i was just in richmond, virginia, the other day, testifying on bills to help, you know, protect kids from gun violence. gun safety was won in virginia. i got to see a bill in committee get completely obliterated that was aimed at arming teachers in the first place. your voice matters. it's only because people turned out that that majority was won by one seat in virginia in that previous election, and it's going to be a similar case in '24 and so on. we have to keep voting and realize this is not going to be solved in one election, and i hope congress wakes up and does

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