this election is about who shares your values. let me share mine. i'm the only candidate with a record of taking on maga republicans, and winning. when they overturned roe, i secured abortion rights in our state constitution. when trump attacked our lgbtq and asian neighbors, i strengthened our hate crime laws. i fought for all of us struggling to keep up with the rising cost of living. i'm evan low, and i approve this message for all of our shared values. good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, identity

crisis. for decades, donald trump, the man, has been inextricable from donald trump the brand. and with that, both have taken a hit this weekend, with trump reduced to hawking sneakers as he stares down a nearly half a billion dollar fine resulting from the new york state judgment in his civil fraud trial. and it's about to get even deeper for trump as we move into campaign season. with the republican front runner looking at even more time in courtrooms into states, and in washington and lee. well, the chaos in trump world is mirrored on capitol hill. the house now on a two week recess after republicans --

real world issues unresolved. -- erupting with protests this weekend over the death of putin's biggest critic. and here at home, where republicans insist that they want border security, but not before they pursue a doomed impeachment of the homeland security secretary. all of this awaits congress at the end of the month. along with the at another last- minute effort to fund our government and prevent i shut down with just days to do it. again, and all of that gets unpacked on tonight's politicsnation. let's go. joining me now, congressman benny thompson, democrat of mississippi, and the ranking member of the house homeland security committee. thanks for joining us today,

congressman. let's start with the former president, donald trump, after he was fined 300 and $55 million, plus interest, and bayard from running a business in new york state. trump spent saturday promoting a sneaker line, and lashing out at the judge who made the ruling, calling him a lunatic at a rally in michigan. what's your reaction to trump's latest courtroom drama, knowing we'll be seeing a lot of this between now and the election day? >> well, thank you so much, rather. though he's had an opportunity to present his side in the case, and a jury technically of his peers, have found him in violation of a previous order.

so, you know, you can say what he wants. but clearly, i think the fact that he's out here talking a line of tennis shoes at this point in the middle of campaigning and doing other things, this is donald trump. this is who you, i, and a lot of other people have come to know just what he is. so i'm not surprised, but i am really disappointed that there are still so many people in this country who somehow see this person as a viable choice to be the republican nominee for president of the united states. >> congressman, house republican leadership council votes on friday to begin recess that will last the rest of the month. they skipped town without taking up the bipartisan senate bill providing aid to ukraine, even as we learned about the death of russian opposition

leader alexei devoutly. the republican front runner, donald trump, has remained silent on navalny's death, though he continues to criticize nato. what should americans make of this? >> well, you need to make sure you understand that his love affair with putin is real. he's not criticizing anything that putin does, at least with ukraine, on navalny's death, or on nato. he makes sure that he keeps the line of his affair with putin open. and so, for us in this country, the greatest country in the world, who provides leadership not just for nato, but also for the rest of the well, we have to be cautious of this. and the one thing that you have to understand, he is a man

complaining about countries not paying their fair share, given the fact -- in his history, and his history of not paying people, i think it's really ironic that he would even raise that issue at this time. >> now, let me go to this issue. your colleague, south carolina congressman jim clyburn, announced last week he would be stepping down from democratic leadership at the end of this current term. though he will run for reelection, and also campaign for president biden. nbc news is reporting that colorado congressman jay nichols will run for clyburn's post as assistant leader. as you look ahead to the next time, which democrats are hoping will find themselves in the majority? are you seeing a new generation of leaders of marriage? >> there's no question.

hakeem jeffries is on the front line, joe neguse is running -- jim clyburn, lauren underwear is in the mix for leadership. this is passing the torch. i think jim clyburn recognizes his high and best value to the biden administration is to be 100% engaged. you can only serve so many, you can only have so much bandwidth. jim clyburn is needed, 100%, in the effort to reelect joe biden. as you know, had not been for jim clyburn in the beginning, we wouldn't have joe biden. >> right. >> so a lot of us are supporting it. we understand his leadership, his vision, his respect is needed in this campaign. >> now, early voting began

yesterday in michigan ahead of the primary on february 27th. president biden has lost ground with the states largest arab american population over his support for israel in his war with hamas. michigan congresswoman rashida talib is urging those in a higher district to -- what do you make of that effort? as well as the white house's attempt to mend fences on the issue of arab and muslim americans? >> we can't be a one issue party. there are a lot of things that we have to deal with. what's happening in israel is unfortunate. israel's response to gaza was, in the minds of a lot of people, over the top. cooler heads have to prevail. some of us are supporting us two state solution as an

alternative to creating -- i think the congresswoman is representing her district. i think she's wrong, but nonetheless, the people who sent her to washington post live to be heard. so she's speaking for the people she represents. i hope the biden administration hears that, understands the voices of the democratic party are a lot of voices. we have that big tent, the voices of the palestinian people in this country is a voice that should be heard. so i'm saying the work that, that's why my friend, jim clyburn, getting to the table, not just being hired, but i expect them to make a seat at the table for jim clyburn. i expect them to be heard. one of the challenges we've heard, and i know you've heard it, reverend, is that while we have a good message, it's not

resonating, and the messengers who are carrying forth the message are not the validators that ought to be out here. jim clyburn helps with that. >> no doubt about it. and you know i have to say this, but you've done this show many times, and it's certainly been our honor. and while we have you here in the middle of black history month, my producer wanted to mention a name you might recognize. his great uncle henry j courtesy, who worked with -- in mississippi, your home state. then ran for governor after desegregation, and then, in 1979, became one of two of the first two black state senators since reconstruction. but it was his work attacking racial gerrymandering with the lawyers committee on civil rights that paved the way for black mississippi officials like you, which i understand

you said publicly, at his memorial service in 2006. so my producer says he and his family appreciate the respect from you, congressman. >> well, let me tell you, he was ahead of his time. i wouldn't be in this office had not been for him. he drew this district, for the most part, that i represent. the district that i represent in county government, he drew. the jackson mississippi severe council that is majority african american. kirksey drew those districts. so far henry kirksey's legacy, we have to remember. and as you know, the good people who are often not heard, often misunderstood while they're here on earth, but revered after they leave. henry kirksey was

misunderstood, but he is revered by those of us who understood what he was all about. so, his legacy lives on, and you know, he was also a professor at my alma mater, to blue college. so we hired him to teach young black kids all about their history. >> i've been to that college with you. thank you very much for that. i'm sure my producer and his family appreciate it. thank you for being with us tonight, congressman benny thompson. let's turn to our political panel. brendan buck, former -- vice presidential nominee paul ryan, and michael hardaway, former staffer to house minority leader hakeem jeffries and senator dick durbin. brandon, we'll start with former president trump, who is in philadelphia yesterday getting booed while he limited

and 400 dollar high tops at a sneaker convention. -- trashing the judge at his new york fraud case. he was some of what he had to say. >> the decision yesterday in new york, you may have read about it. crooked judge, crooked judge. it's so unfair, what's happening in our country. our court system is a mess. what's happening in our country, they have to straighten it out. all you see is bitterness and revenge and hatred. judge engoron just find me 300 and $55 million for doing everything right. >> now, conservatives have stood by trump for the washington post reports. trump outraged over his court cases, it could have him favoring loyalty over ideology and picking judges for potential second term. so far, he hasn't put out a list of judges he would nominate, as he did in 2016.

should republicans be asking more questions of trump about what a second term might look like if you wear it to get it? >> gus, i don't know if republicans are doing anything but trying to hold on. they realize that donald trump is going to be the nominee at this point. and as we have seen for a long time now, the whims of this man and up becoming policy. there is not a whole lot of effort to reshape or even to shape what donald trump has done. there are countless groups popping up all around washington, waving the trump flags, claiming to be writing his agenda. it feels like the folks from the first term, the stephen miller's of the world, are gonna be really emboldened to do what they want this time. i don't think that you sort of traditional establishment republicans and congress really have a whole lot of saying it. as we've seen, time and time again, when they stand up to whatever he is doing, voters

back trump. and as long as voters are on his side, they're not gonna have much of a chance to reshape any of these decisions that he makes. >> michael, earlier today, house intelligence committee chair mike tournament was on meet the press. and he had this to say about the decision against trump. >> actually, i don't trust this court decision. you know, being a practicing lawyer and commercial transactions, i think the whole premise of the case, which all legal analysts have said is unusual, is not really justifiable, we'll have to see, ultimately, how the appeals run in this case. but i think if this case stands, it's going to be a threat to really just all businesses, including those that are currently operating in new york. >> now, it seems no verdict is enough to shake house republicans faith in their front runner. and yet, at the same time, the informant at the heart of the house gop impeachment case against president biden was

charged last week for lying to the fbi about biden and his son, hunter, for political purposes. and, yet republicans plan to push on with an impeachment anyway. are republicans working with two systems of justice? one for trump, and another for everyone else, michael? >> none of these people are serious individuals. now remember, turner is the same person who made this esoteric announcement earlier this week about an international crisis to change the news cycle around -- new york republicans faced on tuesday night in the third district. and so, this particular case, with the fbi, once again, finding a weakness who has lied to them and fabricated evidence, is further proof that this entire case, this witch hunt against hunter biden, is a complete fraud. and remember, jim jordan said himself that this particular witness and his evidence is the

foundation for their entire investigation, and their entire case. my real question is, why does the fbi, for the second time, seemed to be injecting itself politically into an election? just like they did in 2016 with hillary clinton and the emails, once again, we seem to find ourselves with the fbi editorializing in a way that it should not. and that is concerning. >> now, brandon, nikki haley has just six more days to convince voters in her home state of south carolina that she deserves to be the republican nominee for president. haley has been more critical of trump as she has become his main political rival. but as the washington post reports, these attacks have made haley more popular with the so-called resistance to trump than to mainstream republican voters. what does haley need to do between now and saturday if she truly wants to win in south

carolina? >> yeah, i'll be honest. i don't know if there's anything she can do. we haven't had a lot of high quality polls come out in this race, i imagine we're due for one or two this week, and we will see. look, no one really has figured out a good way to take on donald trump in a republican primary. there's a quicksand like element to it. where you thrasher oak and attack the lower you sink with republican voters. -- she's run a good race, she's the last person standing, but she's never really gotten close with than donald trump. i think the real question for here is what happens after here. does she drop out, endorse him? kind of go along like everybody else has? or does she try to reshape the party, move us on a different direction, and try to be the leader of a new party post trump? she has certainly trended in that direction, the way she's been talking. but i'll be really curious to see if she sort of folds up shop and does what everybody else does and circles right back around to trump again when all is said and done. >> michael, let's go to the

democratic side. president biden continues to look for ways to ease voters concerns about his age. this week, we saw many of biden's top allies in the white house and congress come forward with their own defenses of biden's cognitive abilities. but some prominent democrats would prefer biden get out there more to connect with voters himself. what strategy would you recommend? >> here's the issue. this is a question of style, not of substance. joe biden is old, that's a fact. donald trump's old. but joe biden has delivered. he's got this incredible record of 10 million jobs, this incredible record of historically low unemployment. he is the first president and several generations to deliver a real infrastructure program. so i think what is happening is the average voter, there's a miscommunication there in terms of the record, and what people think he is done for them, and whether he should be president.

so democrats have to be more aggressive, and they have to come up with new ideas in terms of communicating with voters. i would say, for instance, that sort of the old way of running ads on radio and television don't necessarily work as well as being engaged on youtube shows, and certain podcasts, and other things that young people and black male voters and others engaged with. so to answer your question, joe has the record they just have to communicate that in the more effective way to the average voter. and i think they will find an answer, but i think they have to sort that out quickly. >> all right, brandon, buck, and michael hardaway, thank you for being here with me. i want to give you an update on a tragic story out of burnsville, minnesota, where earlier today, two police officers and one firefighter were killed. they were killed by while responding to a domestic violence call. recording of local police, the man who shot the three has already died.

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on friday, yale university used the occasion of black history month to apologize for its role in slavery. -- latest institution to acknowledge its connection to america's original sin, and announce new initiatives to help address some of the lingering effects of slavery on our country. yale's slavery research project has been working since 2020 to

document the schools passed. according to the group's findings, most of yale's founders owned enslaved people. the schools connecticut all was built in part by enslaved people. and prominent members of the yale community worked with local officials in 1831 to prevent the founding of a black college in connecticut. gail president said friday the school will provide funding and training for local teachers in the new haven community uncut community, and curate a lecture series about the schools passed, associated with slavery, and will houston exhibit at a local museum. then -- scholarship for local high school graduates to attend historically black colleges and universities. gayle's bold move will be welcome at anytime, but it is especially appreciated at a

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this election is about who shares your values.

let me share mine. i'm the only candidate with a record of taking on maga republicans, and winning. when they overturned roe, i secured abortion rights in our state constitution. when trump attacked our lgbtq and asian neighbors, i strengthened our hate crime laws. i fought for all of us struggling to keep up with the rising cost of living. i'm evan low, and i approve this message for all of our shared values. welcome back to politicsnation. this year's black history month began with news out of california, where legislators unveiled several bills designed to repair damage done to black communities through a first in the nation effort to turn

reparations into state law. and following that, msnbc just prepared the latest installment of its into america podcast series, titled uncounted millions, the power of reparations. looking at the impact of preparative justice for black new york families, as far back as the civil war. joining me now, msnbc correspondent tremaine lee, host of the into america podcast series. tremaine, great to see you again, even better to have you on the show. before we get into a wider implications of reparations, and how far the topic has come in the last decade, i want to start with the history of the brooklyn new york family, at the center of your new podcast. who was gabriel coakley? and how was he able to obtain what so few black americans

ever have, and that's federal reparations? >> rev sharpton, it's great to be here and it's great to tell all of the viewers about this amazing story of gabriel coakley. who, beginning in the 1850s, was a successful businessman. he wasn't -- in the d.c. area. and he started to buy his -- and so, while d.c. still had slavery, they were also freed, people freed black people in the city, and he was one of them. so beginning in the 1850s, he purchased the freedom of his wife, his sister, and six children. and so from all of the ingenuity, took it all of the struggle it took -- he finally freed his family. and then, -- in 1860. one and a year later, a year before the emancipation proclamation was side, abraham lincoln signs the compensated emancipation act of 1862, which essentially ended slavery in the district. but it also did something else, it gave reparations to white enslavers. and so for all of those white men, mostly, who owned black

people as chattel slaves, as property, all they had to do was say they were loyal to the union, show their receipts for what they paid for those human beings, and they were reimbursed, they were compensated, they got reparations. and so when gabriel coakley freed his family, whether out of an act of cunning or ingenuity, or just by an accident, he never registered them as free people. so technically by the letter of the law, they were still his slaves, and gave them some legal protection, they couldn't be sold off. and so when the compensated emancipation that comes up he, says you know what, i'm willing to take this step, and file for a claim for reparations for compensation. and because again, his family members are still slaves by the letter of the law, he was a slave owner actually got compensated. 15 -- which is the equivalent of about $170,000 in today's money. >> wow. i want to hear more on the impact that those reparations had had on cokeleys descendants, and into the present day. because i understand that one

of the questions you raised, uncounted millions, is that what would black america look like now, if a reparations had been granted then? what did you find? >> that's another amazing part of this story. when you think about the newness of freedom the black folks in this country were experiencing after emancipation, but they got a running start. so where most black folks started with absolutely nothing, it failed promise of 48 years in a meal that never happened, nan -- land that never materialized. but this family, they were able to put generations of their children through schools. you had deans at howard university, and later on outlined you had doctors at -- even national medal of freedom award. and so this family, with this running jump-start into freedom, being able to buy and sell homes. gabriel koch we had two properties on what is now george washington university, in -- the another home around the corner that he sold. again, continuing to build wealth and transfer it to the

next generation. and so this family today, they stand on not just a proud legacy, but generations of upwardly mobile black folks who got their start from gabriel cokeleys amazing act. >> several cities have already allocated reparations to black residents, over let's say the last decade. and we've seen the issue, at least considered in several blue states, including here in new york and in california. where black legislators just release a slate of bills stemming from the states first in the nation -- reparations task force legislation, that notably excludes direct cash payments. despite that, the effort is still expected to face an uphill battle, even in deep blue california. what does that say to you, tremaine? >> what's amazing, rev, is that the united states government has shown its willingness to pay reparations in the past. they paid reparations to native

americans to land they stole from them. they paid to japanese americans, the descendants of those who were incarcerated your war. to what the polling shows, and with so many -- whiz that america doesn't think that black people deserve reparations, they don't deserve any cash payments. so despite all that black people have given to this country, and despite everything that has been stolen from black people by this country, by the federal government, to enlarge the wealth of white families in this country, it still refuses to take that next step of not, because again because they don't believe in the idea of reparations, they don't believe in the idea of reparations for black people. and that is clear time and again. even though there is so much energy, and a lot of options -- on the state level, to offer some sort of redress in these very specific places writ large. the federal government in the united states, as a whole, is just not ready to give black people our just do, to make us whole. >> tremaine lee, thank you for being with us. into america, uncounted

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teamed up for the first in a historic effort to mobilize black voters for the 2024 election. joining me now are the bishops of those two churches, bishop reginald tee jackson, jackson of the african methodist a pistol church, and mr. thomas l four. -- senior of christian methodist episcopal church. thank you both for joining me today. now. >> and glad to be with. you >> your churches have been pushing to expand and protect civil and voting rights for years now. i know you've worked with the conference of black churches, dr. richardson and others. and i've worked with both of you, as the head of national action network. why are you teaming up now? first you bishop jackson, and then bishop brown. what is, what is the impetus of why you are teaming up now, around this 2004 voting issue?

>> yeah, the fact is we have worked together over the last several elections, but because of the importance of this election, and because of our genuine concern in terms of black turnout, we thought it was necessary for us to have a formal agreement that we would focus on voter education, voter mobilization, to make sure that blacks are thoroughly understanding the issues, and that we are not only voting, but that we vote in the best interests of our people. so that's what this agreement is about, and i look forward to working with my fait friend bishop brown in -- >> bishop brown? >> i thank you brother al, thank you for this -- as bishop jackson indicated, we are aware that we are mobile-ing resources, often are done in silence. and this is an opportunity for us to put on the table our sources and strategize how

effectively to get more blacks to vote, and others out to vote in georgia. we believe we've got the resources in terms of people, churches, and others, to make sure that this happens. >> and now back in march of 2021, georgia governor brian kemp signed an espy 202 into law, enacting significant restrictions to voting freedoms, including rigid rules around absentee voting and voter i.d. requirements. bishop jackson, how will you campaign, and how will this campaign counter these laws, which many of us argue our efforts to suppress voting, especially among african americans? >> well you know, that's the major point. because the fact of the matter is, the effort is where blacks turned out in the largest numbers, are the areas they went after. absentee voting, more absentee voters, especially black, in

the history of georgia, are going to change. that ballot drop boxes -- even governor kemp himself voted by the ballot drop box, because of the turnout they tried to block that. so our campaign is starting early, because we want to make sure our voters are aware of these changes, and can circumvent what it is they are trying to do. and while i'm at it reverend out, let me add that our kickoff work off so well, that now the -- church wants to come on board, and other denominations that are not methodist. so we intend to act early, and act strong, to counteract what they are trying to do. >> now a new gallup poll finds that a number of black voters who identified as democrats have fallen by nearly 20 points, 20 percentage points, in the past three years what do you think is behind this ship -- in sentiment among african american voters, bishop brown, and then you bishop jackson?

>> well, there are a number of factors. of course, there's been this whole cried of the last election was rigged, and other efforts to try to discourage blacks and others to vote. but i think some of it is fatigue of people fighting and fighting and trying to make things right, and discovering that this is a fight that does not end with one election. it continues forever. and so,, our efforts here together is not only to motivate -- as much as possible, but to get them out to vote, so that they can indeed have their voices heard and known in the 2024 election. >> bishop jackson? >> i think part of the problem is the democrats have to take some responsibility for failure to message. blacks who spoke to me especially younger blacks talk about they voted democratic, and promises weren't kept. what they don't here is that

black unemployment is lower than it's ever been, more black judges than have ever been, more funding for -- that have ever been,. and education, well what about police reform, and what about student loans? well somehow, the democrats, and now that also includes the black church and local black leadership, have to make it clear it's not because they haven't tried, but it's because they don't have the votes. and the only way you change the votes, is to change the people, who are in those offices. and to change that, you have to get up, get out, and vote. and that is going to be much of our message. we can't get police reform unless we get some new people. we can't get school loans done away with, unless we get some new people. and we've got to say it, and say it loud. >> and you, you've been saying that, both of you for a long time, i know bishop jackson, you in 2020 was -- glad to see this coming together.

u.s. so active, and if each of you in the documentary on -- i don't know how bishop jackson snuck into my documentary, but let me ask you this before we let you go. i had no -- i observe you spent some time this week, mr. jackson, in atlanta, at fulton county's hearing over misconduct allegations aimed at district attorney fani willis. i know that she is a member of your church, your overall thoughts on what we witnessed this week, in regard to fulton county district attorney fani willis? >> well the fact of the matter is, how, when you look at it, name me one law she broke? and in the court case this week, they did not name one single solitary law that she has broken. everything was based on simply their own perspective. for example, if you have a job, you get paid, that's your money. you determine how you spend your money.

they claimed that was a conflict of interest, yet they never showed anything where the defendants in their government case had been harmed, because of any action by the district attorney. she came in, and spoke clearly, and strongly. there is no reason she should be disqualified. and again, no single solitary evidence was given, where she had done anything that's a conflict of interest, or does harm to the defendants in the government case. >> bishop brown, the interviews that you have on this issue -- >> yes, i think reverend al, it's something -- cowardice in which some of our brothers and sisters are getting things -- in terms of politics. >> the same falsehood that became up about the election, and what have you, is being used against district attorney

fani willis. no evidence -- just >> and, we are -- bishop jackson and others, it make sure that we stand with her. because she is indeed a proud woman, somebody we are proud of and who speaks for the kind of -- power we need in that position. >> all right. >> and out, let me just close that with two words. and those words are, distract, and delay. they want to distract from what the indictments are about, and they want to delay until after the election. that's what it's all about. distract, and delay. >> all right, bishop reginald jackson, and bishop thomas brown senior. thank you both for joining me tonight. my final thoughts are just ahead. thoughts are just ahead. t ta to nurtec.gic allergic reactions can even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt.

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journey, i have asked president of national action network in gauged at least five presidents at many occasions. sometimes i agreed with them, sometimes i didn't, but met with them and worked on legislation and issues of my concern, even if i disagree with other things they had done. i've worked and met with jimmy carter when he was in the white house, with bill clinton when he was in the white house, george w. bush, barack obama, joe biden. all of which i've worked in the last several years. and there's one i didn't mention, donald trump, who i knew longer than i knew all of them. but would never go to the white house with him in, because i didn't want a photo op. what was interesting to me is that he would tweet he talk to me a couple of times on the phone as president, but he would tweet i was this con man and racist. and he forgot to tell his

people he's come two or three times to my national action network's convention. and tried to act at that point like he was friendly with aspects of the black community. what i'm raising is for us to say there are certain standards we should look for any president, and even though i disagreed, and marched on bush, and marched on clinton on the omnibus crime bill, i never felt that they disregarded what the presidency, and this country should stand for. trying to established a democracy, and trying to have values and dignity. and that's the kind of president we ought to be thinking about tomorrow, on presidents'day. that does it for me, thanks for watching. i'll be back here with you next weekend, at five pm eastern, the sunday show with jonathan capehart starts right after the break. capehart starts right after the break.

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out of office, speaker mike johnson is under mounting pressure, after sending the house on a two week recess as critical aid for ukraine hangs in the balance. donald trump puts america's allies on edge, and a budget shutdown looms. congressman andy kim of the house foreign affairs committee, and former dnc chair howard dean join me live to discuss all of this and