♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening. tonight on ayman, footing the bill. how will donald trump pay is fe -- put his money where his mouth as. also tonight, justice watch week. examine the dayton is ahead if the supreme court sides with

trump's claims of immunity as nikki haley announces that she would pardon trump. and where does alexei navalny's push for a free and fair russia go now that the kremlin has silenced him? -- i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. ♪ ♪ ♪ donald trump's legal that's are stacking up, and the biggest question tonight, how will he actually pay up? the disgraced ex president was hit friday with a nine figure fine over his deceptive financial practices. new york supreme court judge arthur engoron ordered trump and his namesake organization to fork andrea 400 and $50 million in damages, plus an additional almost $100 million in interest. that is a -- trump owes for refusing to comply with the subpoena in the same case. and he owes another $15,000 for

comments he made during the trial in which he repeatedly disparaged the just judges lock like, violating his gag order. friday's hefty fine comes just weeks after trump was ordered to pay more than $83 million to writer e. jean carroll for damaging her reputation after she accused him of sexual assault. last year, a separate jury awarded carroll -- funding liable for some actual beach and defamation. -- affability dollars. that's important. it shouldn't be a problem for the self-proclaimed billionaire, right? but who knows. but it's important, because trump's finances have always been a mystery. his company isn't public, and as we know, he has famously refused to publicly disclose his tax returns. although trump has claimed to be worth over tallinn billion dollars at times, most estimates, including an assessment by the new york attorney general, puts that figure closer to just two billion dollars. last year, the former president

claimed in a deposition that he had, quote, substantially in excess of $400 million in cash on hand. however, it's unclear whether that number is accurate. after, all that deposition was part of this very lawsuit in which a judge found that trump had repeatedly inflated his net worth. so even if the ex president has enough cash on hand, a big if here, paying the judgments could run the risk of wiping out his accounts. it sure seems like we trump is feeling this cash crunch. this weekend, he debuted his own line of sneaker is, ranging in price from $199 to $399. yes. golden sneakers. we should note the sneakers have nothing to do with trump's presidential campaign or the trump organization. instead, the former presidents name, likeness -- i've been licensed to an llc to solve

sneakers. president biden's reelection campaign was quick to mock him over the speakers with communications director michael tyler quote -- off whites is the closest tell get to any air force ones ever again for the rest of his life. which kind of brings me back to another major issue here for trump. the fact that he is currently running for president with a packed courtroom calendar ahead of him. it is likely the ex president will glee drain his political war chest to help pay his legal fees. and all the federal election law prohibits the use of campaign funds for personal use, the rules are far murkier when it comes to tapping political action committees, or packs, as they are known, for i candidates expenses. over the last two years, trump's save america political action committee, presidential campaign, and his other fundraising organizations have already divided over $76 million to the ex presidents legal battles alone. even the republican national committee has gone in on the

action, paying millions of dollars to law firms working on the former presidents cases. and now, trump's sole remaining gop rival, nikki haley, is sounding the alarm. she's actually warning the ex president, maybe hijacking the rnc with the sole purpose of using it as his, quote, personal piggy bank. so while it is clear that donald trump is the one responsible for racking up a half a billion dollars in legal fines and fees, only one question remains. who will actually pay it? kicking us off tonight, suzanne craig, investigative reporter at the new york times and an msnbc contributor. she's written extensively about trump's finances for years. davids of alice -- legal analyst, and requested, cofounder of the lincoln project and author of running against the devil, a plot to save america from trump, and democrats from themselves. it's great to have all of you with us. suzanne, i'll start with you. in his 2021 statement of

financial condition, trump said that he had just under $300 million in cash and cash equivalents. since then, he has made number of sales including his new york golf course and his washington, d.c. hotel. he's also preparing to bring his social media company, truth social, public. but even with these income streams, does donald trump have the money to pay him? >> well, -- you just have to say i don't know. food that's, for some reporters, a good thing. you mentioned that number from 2021. what we know is that in 2021, he might've had two or $300 in the bank. he said in 2023, he had 400 million. that may or may not be accurate. i think over time, we've seen -- some cash on hand. it's just a tricky thing, because with donald trump, you see some money coming in, that's gonna be tax owed on,

for example, the old post office hotel. he had a licensing agreement there. he sold, that he got 100 and $39 million in proceeds from that. there's gonna be some tax here. and on top of, that you just don't know other things that he could be spending money on. the new york times, we obtained 20 years of his personal and financial tax return information in 2020. one of the things we saw was, first of all, most of his businesses lost money. a lot of money. and he's often putting his own capital into the golf courses, in particular just to keep them afloat. so you don't really know what's coming out. so right now, you think he's probably got a comparable million dollars in cash, but he's gonna need more than that, and he's got assets. i think that's where we come to the question of this appeals bond. and he's currently out, apparently, in the marking place seeking one.

-- i don't know if it's gonna be a combination of cash and assets, or what it is, that's where we're headed. he's gonna try to get it -- i >> don't know how many sneakers he'd have to sell, nick, to make a dent in his belt. but i'm thinking about the supporters and i'm thinking about the sneakers -- jumping ahead, there was a guy who pay apparently paid $9,000 at an auction for the speakers. in my mind was blown away, because i'm thinking about these loyal supporters that have already stepped in to help the ex president lunch gofundme. it's already raised over $300,000. you know, this is a guy who was just found to be a fraud in a court of law, and ordinary americans i throwing them basically their life savings and more cash at him. and the grift continues. >> you know. one of the best quotes i ever heard about donald trump was from an actual billionaire in new york. when i went to 2015 -- is gonna be a problem, he's a billionaire, way, wait a

second. donald trump is not a billionaire. he is a clown living on credit. and what we see is he's constantly hopping from one financial play to another. there's a certain amount of money are gonna be able to raise from the voter pool. and they have bled that list of people try. they have blood those people to the point where -- social security, disability check -- from the deep state, or whatever fantasy. -- it is a powerful bond, but that's not going to give him the amount he needs in this deal. -- his personal finances and his corporate finances. >> danny, federal election law prohibits the use of personal funds to -- it gets a little bit murkier with packs. and i just want to know, from

your legal expertise, where can, or who can trump continued to tap into for money to pay for his legal bills? >> you stated the law accurately. it's murky when it comes to packs, because they are relatively new -- you can do gofundme's, he can except the kinds of -- you can get into the sneaker business. but one of the things to consider, building on what rick said, is that trump probably isn't as liquid as he makes himself at to be. if you go to just -- fraud case that we just had, part of that, as i understand it, involved loans that donald trump had supposedly taken out. because he wasn't liquid enough to pay his trump university case. that goes back to -- just give you an idea. so donald trump may not be nearly liquid as he says. and resorting, when you heard from actual billionaires, maybe spot on. but that is a major problem for someone -- pay judgments like

this. another thing i think is really interesting -- in an ordinary civil case, after a gigantic verdict, often, the plentiful guarded the defendant and say, hey, instead of going to appeal, what if we -- pennies on the dollar, not pennies, but will reduce the verdict significantly. it's interesting that when you're dealing with donald trump, that's not even on the table. no matter whether or not he's like what, whether not he has the money to pay, whether not he can put up the bond, it seems to me that no plaintiff, the a.g., no one has ever even thought of approaching -- >> why do you think he would not entertain that idea? does not want to entertain that idea? >> because it's inconsistent with his mission, which is fight, fight, fight. and by the way -- insurance companies but take that same approach to litigation. -- donald trump is just a version of the same thing. because when you use that litigation strategy, the idea is if world get site that you are -- the sharks will circle.

and donald trump appears to have taken the approach that it is far better to stave off for another day a judgment and to have to open my wallet and pay less money today. when i may end up having to pay more later. >> suzanne, there's a larger context here -- you've reported about this on the irs audit going on behind closed doors. walk us through that. is this just the beginning for trump? and why is that so important for him, amongst all of these legal challenges? >> there, i want to talk about, that because it's really important, but first, i want to -- i think in this case, i'm not even show the attorney general would've settled. trump has a long history of saying, i never will settle. he settles so many cases. we don't know exactly when on between the two of, but i have to think that wouldn't have been a lot of interest in the attorney general when it comes to settling this case ahead of time. and i can't imagine there will be now. i think we're gonna see this going to appeals.

but on the irs case, it's less talked about, but very important. and we reported it in 2020 in some stories that we did when we got -- tax information. in that information, we can see -- going on for years. and it had unsettled as of the time that we ran the story. we don't know for sure that it has not been -- going on behind closed doors. it may have been, i sense not, but we don't know that that audit, if it goes against him -- it could've cost him in excess of 100 million dollars. that's an audit with an issue that interest is clocking. so it's probably even higher now. it's done in one issue. and i'm careful about what i know. i don't know, probably, a lot. there could be other issues out there lurking like that for donald trump that we just don't know about that could be a potential castration for him. >> there's an element to this,

it, but somewhat argue is a national security risk. it doesn't immediately jumped to our conscious, but when you think about it in detail, look, this is a candidate for public office, let alone a candidate for president. he is cash strapped. and this presents a serious liability. in fact, trump's former fixer, michael cohen, spoke to my colleagues earlier today about this. take a listen. >> you have ahead of one of our two major parties that's financially catch strapped. we need to be very careful about him as a potential president, because he's for sale. >> he is for sale. how concerned is chums current financial state making you about a candidate, a leader of the republican party? >> look, i think donald trump's financial vulnerability has always been out there. this is a guy who would kissed dollar bill -- to a trailer park if there was -- this is a guy who wants money all the time. he's always looking to make

something else out of his latest disasters. so i'm worried that -- i don't think the saudis gave jared two billion dollars because he's a nice guy. i'm worried that donald trump will be out there for sale to the highest bidder. let's put it very bluntly. this is not a man who puts america first. he puts himself first, and if he needs to borrow money from the shakiest possibles sources, i'm sure he would. and he's gonna have a hard time getting it from legitimate sources, because some of the constraints of not being able to borrow from banks that are based in new york, or that license to upper new york. -- going out for the payday loan market, and as president, that's a dangerous position. >> a very dangerous one indeed. denny rake, please stick around. suzanne, craig, thank you for your insights. always a pleasure. next up, jack smith urges the supreme court to dismiss trump's claim for immunity for january 6th. what happens if they side with

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deeply concerned that city hall is allowing crime and lawlessness to spread. now we can do something about it by voting yes on prop e. a common sense solution that ensures we use community safety cameras to catch repeat offenders and hold them accountable. vote yes on e. jack smith is urging the supreme court to reject donald trump's bid to delay his 2020 election interference case. this week, we saw ping-pong of requests from the special counsel and the ex president fighting for and against pausing a lower courts immunity ruling. but some legal experts warn the supreme court could simply sit on trump's request without taking any action, causing the child to be delayed until after

election day. this, as a new blockbuster report brings a renewed sense of urgency to smith's case. documents obtained by talking points memo revealed trump's plan to stretch -- for weeks, effectively paralyzing congress and putting pressure on the nation's highest court to step in and give the election to donald trump. danny indirect are back with me now. i'll start with you, danny. and according to this talking points memo in the emails that they have obtained, the trump attorney at the time, kenneth chesebro, came up with numerous efforts to invalidate the electoral count act. one pathway even involved having senator chuck grassley file a test case before the supreme court. what do you make of that lawyering? is that good lawyering? >> first, how are we only finding out about this now? to me, if january 6th is a multi hour event, and that is a lot different in contacts than multi day planned event. that goes much more strongly to

allegations of insurrection, or other criminal allegations that are currently being made. i'm just astonished we're finding out about it now. what you just asked goes to the core of some of the attorney defendants defense. which is basically, hey, where lawyers. we were just musing, waxing on about some of the legal theories that just might work. and by the way, i won't completely denounced that biden said defense. it's available one, i don't think it'll be successful. but look to them to make that argument. some of them -- agreed to plead guilty. but to the extent there attorneys -- mostly in georgia, they are going to argue just legal of vice? that's not that big a deal. and just thinking about it, we're not actually -- >> but what if that legal advice is illegal? the point is in this case, the argument is that they are asking, the lawyers, as you suggest, or maybe musing on doing something that prolongs this, knowing very well that -- mike pence didn't have anything

to do except performative, and the idea of getting someone like chuck grassley involved would, at its core, suggested conspiracy to delay the act of congress. >> yeah. although the line sometimes appears gray, it's pretty clear. when it comes to being an attorney, particularly in the criminal defense attorney, you can't cancel a client to go commit a crime knowingly. the client can tell you about past crimes they've committed. they can tell, you literally, not figuratively, literally, where the bodies are buried. but you're not participating in that past crime. therefore, you can keep that secret. what you can't do is counselor client to go forward in the future and commit a crime. that is a relatively bright line in my view. the attorney defendants are gonna argue, or anyone who gave any kind of advice like that is gonna argue, hey, were constitutional sala's. -- >> or brainstorming ways we can get around the constitution. >> spitting ideas, ayman.

it's not a big deal. it happens all the time and smoke filled coffee houses where people chitchat about this kind of thing. but it's a defense that's gonna be a bit of a stretch. >> rick there with his other dangerous idea here, what could happen -- and i want to ask you about this. walk us through the dangers of this. if this case does get delayed until after election day. we've already learned that trump and his allies are planning to overhaul the justice department. wanting to punish his opponents. isn't it all but certain that he would try to get this case killed if you were to win a second term? >> it's an absolute stated today. and i'd like to say that any coup that isn't punished is a training exercise. and as of now, they -- footsoldiers in this, but it fascinates me that we have not yet gotten to, you and i hope we do, get to the point where those lawyers who are spit balling unconstitutionally riffing, whether any points for mark meadows or anybody else in the trump administration or trump campaign, or any other

part of -- when it in turn those things into actionable items? those buses that drove all those manga folks down there to washington post, d.c. didn't materialize out of nowhere. the idea that you bring in the proud boys, the three percenters, all those people. that didn't materialize out of nowhere. the people that were in the war room, steve bannon, roger stone, alex jones, all these other cats and dogs, where was the line? where was the bridge of instruction between people in the white house and this plaque of lawyers, and folks who are out there taking direct action in order to suspend and invalidate a free and fair democratic election? >> rick i've gotta ask you about nikki haley. she was asked -- if she'd point pass -- here's what she said. >> i believe in the best interest of bringing the country together. i would pardon donald trump. because i think it's important for the country to move on.

>> all right. someone, as a political strategist, here is that smart when you're trying to defeat the president, former president, and you trailing in the polls, to say that, and second of all, not holding trump accountable, is that really gonna bring the country together? or just the republican party? >> sadly for america, this is nikki haley warming up for her big trump endorsement in a few weeks. and do i wish she would stay in the fight and be real about this and speak the truth that she has expressed people privately in the donor community and elsewhere? that she knows trump is guilty? the chinos that she's having to say this because she's afraid of his base? yes, that's why she's doing it this way. but it is pro family disappointing. if you're going to run for president, you have to go all in and all out. you have to make the full case. she knows exactly what she should say, and refuses to do so. which is exactly why he's going to beat her in a couple of weeks. >> i thank you very generous. we'll see what happens on saturday in the south carolina

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across rush, we are seen tributes for vocal putin critic alexei navalny, following the news of his death inside a siberian penal colony. more than 400 people were detained during those tributes, according to a prominent rights group. navalny's passing has only further cemented putin's grip on power and his plans to consolidate it even more. ahead of the russian presidential election next month. as russians opposition movement now faces a future without their figurehead, earlier, i spoke with bill -- the head of the global -- justice campaign. >> bill browder, thank you so much for joining us. the white house came out and

immediately put the blame for alexei navalny's death squarely on vladimir putin. can you speak to that for us, and explain to our viewers who may not be familiar why they believe that vladimir putin is ultimately responsible for alexei navalny's death, and the significance of the timing of his death, just weeks before russia's presidential elections. >> well, vladimir putin has a long and ugly history of killing political opponents. he kills politicians, he kills journalists, he kills investigators, people who are investigative reporters and all sorts of others. boris nemtsov, who was the leader of the opposition, killed in 2015. my lawyer, sergei minute ski was killed in 2009, after uncovering a massive corruption scheme. -- and, was killed in the early 2000s, exposing putin's war in

chechnya. and navalny, alexei navalny, they tried to kill him once before. they tried to kill him in 2020, with novichok, which didn't work. and so, this, this there is no other explanation, other than putin doing this. and it's, alexei navalny is a major political opponent to putin, probably the only major political opponent to putin. and putin is somebody who doesn't want political opposition. he is facing no competition in an election in march, and didn't want this guy to mess up his show. and that's why he did it. and anybody who knows russia knows that this is a putin organized assassination of a major political opponent. >> and what happens now to the movement that navalny and you and others championed for a free, or democratic russia? what happens now that this central figure, this key

figure, the face if you will of the opposition, has been killed? >> well, putin likes to rule by symbolism. he likes to pick the person who is biggest in whatever field he doesn't like, takes them out, and then looks at everybody else and sees, effectively says to them, do you want to die to? and that's the message here, that putin has gone after the most important, most popular political figure in russia. and, now he is saying to everybody else, that is what happens to you if you oppose me. and so, what will happen? he has terrorized anyone who has even thought about political opposition, into not. because it is a matter of life and death. and that is how putin rules the country. >> and do you think the opposition movement in russia will somehow be galvanized or mobilized by the death of navalny? or do you think that it might fade away and dissolve, as putin wants it to?

>> well i think it is going to go underground. i think it is too dangerous for anyone to be in the opposition movement right now. and so, i mean, there are three things that happen when you are an opposition politician. you either die, like navalny and boris nemtsov, or you go to jail, like vladimir kara moselle and -- . or are you end up in exile, like garry kasparov and -- . there is no place, there is no oxygen and no safety for anybody to be in politics in russia, and that's how putin wants it. >> what should america's role be in this now, after navalny's death? i mean in 2016, congress passed the grow bill -- human rights accountability act exactly named after your friend and former lawyer sergei magnitsky, who died after he was tortured and a russian jail. it allows the u.s. president to oppose visa bans and sanctions individuals over human rights individuals. but, there are obviously limits to what it can do. and it is certainly not doing enough to change the

calculation, excuse me, of a vladimir putin or his accomplices. what do you think needs to happen, to effectively address what is happening inside russia that america can do? >> well the main thing america can do right now is congress, the house of representatives, can approve the 63 billion dollar military aid package for ukraine. we are effectively at war with russia, not directly, but we should be supplying the ukrainians with whatever they need to fight off russia. and that would be the most appropriate and most important thing we can do in the short term. the second thing we should do is, when there is 300 billion dollars of russian central bank reserves that have been thrown frozen in the rest, after putin started this war. that money should be confiscated. and the third thing we should do is, we need to find a way to protect the remaining political prisoners that are in prison, and the best way to protect

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all right, so there are renewed calls to do something about america's gun epidemic, after the mass shooting this week at a super bowl parade in kansas city, that left at least one person dead. with that one person dead, 22 others injured, two minors have been charged, and are currently being held at a juvenile detention center in connection with the shooting. it all comes as a wave of gun safety laws took effect across the country at the beginning of this year, after 2023 ended with more mass shootings than days, believe it or not. having now the second highest number on record. the gun violence archive has already tracked 51 mass shootings this year alone, and of course i do not need to remind you that we are in the middle of february. and as the trace notes, a newsroom dedicated to covering gun violence, these shootings happen so frequently in america, that we are left feeling that they could happen anywhere, at anytime, and without any warning.

and that's because they actually do. the fact that mass shootings are still taking place, despite the presence of police forces, and even the scattered gun safety laws that do exist, signals how deeply rooted this issue is in this country, and the work that lies ahead. joining me now to discuss this epidemic and more are attorney general -- of nevada, and -- of illinois. gentlemen, it's good to have both of you with us, thank you both so much for making time on this important topic. attorney general -- i'd like to start with you. because i know that gun safety is personal for you, as one of your own employees survived the highland park mass shooting back in 2022. talk to us about what efforts you are leading in your state to address this issue? >> yes, certainly well, we know that guns that are being used in gun violence in the communities most harmed by gun violence are neither manufactured there, legally sold their, or legally

transferred into the hands of those who are perpetrating this gun violence. so one of the things, you mentioned kansas city. we pardon with the city of kansas city to, to sue the atf for relicense-ing the gun manufacturing, that was making cheap guns that were known to be used in crimes, carjackings, robberies, and so forth. and we were successful in getting the license of that gun manufacturer revoked. that was a manufacturer that specifically was making guns, not for law-abiding gun owners, but for people that they knew would do harm with them. we also partnered with every town, and we created a gun tracing platform, so we can trace the flow of guns. we prosecute gun trafficking cases, but we need the data to make sure that we can track down those who are trafficking guns from other states, into the state of illinois, and into the city of chicago, which is

well known for its gun violence, unfortunately. and so, our efforts towards gun violence recognize that there should never have been a place where we expected gun violence to occur. now, we are all up in arms, because it can occur anywhere. but we've tolerated for decades gun violence happening in predominantly black and brown communities. and we tolerate the things that aided that along. >> yeah, it's true, and it's also focused in the urban cities that people seem to think, oh if it's happening in the cities, it's not my problem. attorney general ford, in 2022, you secured i believe $400,000 to go towards educating and training programs for your states red flag law. talk to us about the progress that you have seen with this initiative, and other steps that your office is taking to protect your constituents. and if we can expand it to other states? >> yeah, well first of, thanks so much for having -- and, an

opportunity to serve on a panel with -- . i'm delighted, as i know we are going to be able to talk about some important stuff. and you are, right we were able to strip $200,000 in the -- training programs that we wanted to implement. we are in the process of doing that. but that was just a another step in a long line of efforts that we have undertaken in nevada, to address gun violence issues dating back to my days in the state senate, where we championed background check legislation. where although my predecessor did not want to enforce the background check legislation that was passed, we were able to get it authorized and- enforced. bump stop legislation, that we passed in the aftermath of the october one shooting, that's another example. and we now have litigation on one right now, where we are attempting to ban but ghost guns, we have legislation that passed, where we have been able to push back against some of the lawsuits against it, although we are still in court. and although there have been some, clearly misunderstandings around the prevalence of ghost

guns by some in our state, we know that at least from 2000 -- the summer of 2020 to 2021, we have 250 of those covered by law -- that had been utilized in robbery or domestic violence or otherwise. so, we're going to be working hard to make sure that we can continue pushing back on the gun violence epidemic that we see here in our state as well. >> mister -- , earlier today, democratic congressman maxwell frost spoke with my colleague alex witt about this issue. take a listen to what he said. >> so we've got a lot of work to do. there's been good work that's been done, in the bipartisan safer communities act the past two years ago. we've seen, especially in big cities, that gun violence rates of michigan down a little bit. what we saw we have a lot of work to do, because behind every, number there is a human, there is a person. >> what do you think it's going to take for us to see a larger impact on this issue? to see the number of mass shootings in this country drastically drop? and is this something that can only be done at a state level or a local level? or do you think the federal

government has a role, and can play a role in drastically dropping? this >> yes, i think it's got to be all hands on deck. and the federal government has to be involved. and i think to some extent, to a great extent, the federal government has been involved on the biden administration. as i said earlier -- we are a great partner with atf, they have -- intelligence towards solving the problems certainly, within the city of chicago. but in addition, the department of justice has embraced the fact that we've got to get to know the shooter. what i mean by that is, there is nobody who came out of the room with a gun in their hand and a tarp hard to take their neighbor. we've got to intervene in the lives of people who are more likely to either be a victim or a perpetrator of gun violence. we are not just simply passing gun laws, or way of enforcement. we've got to realize that we've got to invest in communities, and into the lives of people that would be vulnerable to

choosing gun violence, or otherwise be victims of gun violence. >> and attorney general for, it i'll give you a chance as well to weigh in on that. do you think that there is a federal response, here a federal action that could be taken to drastically bring down these numbers? and especially in the current climate we're, washington is so broken, for a lack of a better word, or polarized to say the least on this issue. >> yeah, absolutely, i think there is a federal response that is necessary and appropriate. i do commend the biden administration for undertaking those efforts. he doesn't need a congress that is willing to undertake those as well, and so -- i commend again, him for doing that. but we have yet more work to do. but as -- this is an all hands on deck approach. just friday for example, i was at a panel discussion put on by a training put on by every town, -- and every town. where candidates who are advocating for common sense gun regulations are running for office. and that's part of what we have to do as well, get people in

office who have an appropriate mindset about being responsible gun owners. and that is another way that we can continue to drive down the -- gun violence in our country. >> yet, it is a pin important point to keep the political pressure on members of congress, to get the right candidates in the right mindset. attorney general -- and -- , thank you so much, a greatly free sheet or time and insights this evening. next up, a new york times investigation digging into the social media accounts of israeli soldiers, revealing a rare, unsanctioned window into the war in gaza. rare, unsanctio the war in gaza. with quickbooks money now earns 5% apy. (♪♪) [inaudible]

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since october 7th, social media has given us an influential, and unfiltered look at life under constant in israeli bombardment inside of gaza. and we are not just hearing from palestinians, we are also seeing some questionable videos from israeli soldiers, that are there. even as the gaza ministry of health estimates nearly 29,000 palestinians have been killed, israeli politicians and spokespeople alike have consistently claimed the military is doing everything it can to protect civilians. but these posts on social media suggest that the military is doing everything but that. we have seen repeated instances of the israeli military cheering destruction, and mocking gazans as they filmed themselves destroying what appears to be civilian property. and an analysis of hundreds of israeli soldiers videos by the new york times found that some of the posts violate idf

regulations, which specifically forbid members from sharing content that may, quote, affect the image of the idf and its perceptions in the eyes of the public, or show behavior that harms human dignity. in this video for example, we see what appears to be dozens of young palestinian men being detained, while stripped to their underwear. and in this one, troops setting fire to what they call a candy factory in gaza, where they joke that the fire represents, quote, the second candle of hanukkah. and destroying toys and notebooks at another store. videos also show soldiers degrading palestinians, and finding humor in their deadly military operations in gaza. here, a soldier films himself rummaging through women's lingerie, well making derogatory comments about arab women. and then, there is this shocking footage of a soldier wearing a dinosaur costume, loading a military tank, and firing it while music plays in the background. the israeli military responded to nbc's request for comment on

the video, saying it, quote, has acted and continues to act to identify unusual cases, that deviate from what is expected of idf soldiers. but the prevalence of these videos points to israeli soldiers seem to operate with relative impunity, and without accountability for these posts. the following video was originally posted on tiktok, but was removed from the platform after the new york times asked for comment about the openly celebratory siege, showing combat engineering soldiers in khan yunis in early january, smoking hookah pikes, and raising glasses to -- as explosions destroyed buildings behind them. in a statement regarding these clips published by the new york times, the israeli military called the conduct of the soldiers in the footage, quote, deplorable. and said that the so-called circumstance was being examined. these are the soldiers behind what the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has called the most moral army in the world. and despite the rights --

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