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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. russian president vladimir putin sending a message to the world today, you can't stop me. from gains on the ukrainian battlefield to the launch of a possible space weapon, putin seems to be pushing the envelope on all fronts. now with the death of alexei navalny, new fears in and outside of russia. who will stand up to putin now. plus, whether it's golden hightops or a gofundme page, donald trump is desperately trying to find new piles of cash to pay off his legal debts. with those judgments amounting to roughly a fifth of his entire fortune, the former president may have to sell a lot more than shoes to pay them off. you're looking at extraordinary video out of florida where police cam caught the aftermath of a crash, one child pulled from the wreckage, a baby in the back seat

unconscious. the responding deputy with just minutes to try to save her life. we'll have more of the harrowing video and what happened after this next. first, today europe and much of the democratic world is on edge over an emboldened vladimir putin. fears that are only exacerbated by donald trump's anti-nato comments. eu officials met today with alexei navalny's

officers and a man who served as a firefighter paramedic were killed answering a domestic violence call. tearful mourners bundled up in

the cold overnight, gathered with candles, bouquets and signs of support in front of burnsville city hall. nbc's maggie vespa joining us now. i understand the call came in for a man barricaded in a house with children as young as 2 years old. what more do we know about the investigation as well as the people who lost their lives? >> reporter: that part about the kids among the most gripping details in this devastating story. we'll start with the three victims. we got their names overnight. two police officerses in burnsville, minnesota. their names are paul elmstrand, matthew ruge, 27 years old. on the right side is adam finseth, the firefighter paramedic who was 40 years old. it boils down to the timeline. that call you talked about came in around 2:00 a.m. on sunday. we're showing you video mostly from the daytime.

keep in mind this started well before dawn. you can see in this video the scope of the law enforcement response. a lot of police and first responders showing up in tactical gear, heavily armed. they knew at that point the gunmen was heavily armed and his family with with them. they learned there were seven children ages 2 to 15 years old. i want to say off the bat they are, officials say, okay. the kids are unharmed. they're safe. obviously that was a huge factor in how they responded. authorities, first responders, say they negotiated with the gunman for several hours before he eventually fired on them. there's a lot we don't know at this point. we don't know the gunman's name. we don't know why this started or let alone escalated to the degree it did. authorities only saying they don't have a history of calls at that residence or specific to the gunman. they say this clearly exemplifies the risks that first responders face every single day. take a listen. >> these public safety

officials, they're moms and dads, brothers and sisters, sons and daughters. they're the world to a lot of people, and they go out and do the job to provide us safety that we have the luxury of not having to think about many times. >> they have to give up their life sometimes, and they do it anyways. >> we should know we've reached out to the families of those who were killed, chris, and we haven't yet heard back. >> our hearts go out to them. maggie vespa, thank you. a terrifying moment that a florida sheriff's deputy helped save a 6-month-old baby trapped in a wrecked car. all of it caught on camera. you see it here. officials just released the video when deputy sergeant dave musgrove saw a motorcycle going more than 100 miles per hour flying by, and seconds later slammed into a car with a mom and two kids inside. musgrove pulled the kids out and performed cpr on the youngest, just 6 months old until the

paramedics arrived. his actions are kress ted with saving the little girl's life. she does remain in intensive care. sergeant musgrove reportedly calls every day to check on her. a new ultimatum from israel, the warning it's sending about a potential incoming invasion to the new part of gaza that's packed with refugees. packed with refugees

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pretty unlikely as this point. as we've talked about, these hostage negotiations at this point appear to be deadlocked. you'll remember cia director bill burns was in cairo last week meeting with officials from egypt, israel and qatar. those talks did not produce a breakthrough. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu withdrew negotiators are cairo saying hamas officials are, quote, delusional, and repoet r peted his threats to seth forces into gaza where 1.4 million palestinians are sheltering. there is a lot of concern, chris, worldwid that this fighting will drag on into the islamic holy months of ramadan. the world has been shocked by the scenes coming out of gaza over these last four months, over the scale of civilian casualties following israel's military operation in response

to the october 7th massacre. there's a real feeling this is only going to get even more sensitive during the month of ramadan. i should say not just sensitive in gaza, but also in jerusalem. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is debating what restrictions to put on worshippers going up to the mosque over the month of ramadan. there's a feeling that, if he imposes severe restrictions as some far right members of his government are urging him to do, that that could lead to a flare-up of fly vence in jerusalem. it's worth noting why there's been so much violence in gaza, jerusalem has been relatively quiet throughout this conflict. people on the ground are warning that restrictions on the al lack ka mosque, protesters gathering outside the prime minister's

residence in jerusalem. they are demanding he send his negotiators back to the table and he make a deal to bring the hostages home. those demands made all the more urgent tonight by the idf releasing video of the youngest hostage in gaza who is now a little over 1-year-old. he was just ten months when he was kidnapped with his mother, father and older brother on october 7th. that's a video causing absolute agony here in israel tonight. >> thank you for that. gabe, all of this is happening as one of president biden's allies is really sounding the alarm over benjamin netanyahu's leadership. he's signaling that joe biden feels the same. what more can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that's right, chris. it's congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, a top biden ally, as you mentioned, whose endorsement back in 2020 was widely seen as cat purlting joe biden for the democratic

presidential nomination. this weekend congressman clyburn said he did not approve of benjamin netanyahu's leadership as he said before. this time he indicated that the president agreed with him. here is what he said. >> when it comes to israel, should he stick with his position on prime minister netanyahu or perhaps rethink that relationship? >> well, i'm not too sure we know what that relationship is with netanyahu. i talked to the president about this. of course, he is not going to be public with everything he says to netanyahu, but i know this. he feels about the way i feel when it comes to netanyahu. his leadership has not been good for israel. >> reporter: chris, a few moments after he said that, he tried to walk those comments back saying he did not directly ask the president whether he agreed with him. but, chris, this comes after president biden said a few weeks ago that he thought israel's military operation in gaza was, quote, over the top.

also, nbc news reporting that the president is growing increasingly frustrated with netanyahu, at one point even calling him a, quote, a-hole, according to three people familiar with the conversation. but, chris, the u.s. publicly continues to remain by israel's side. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for that. meantime, facing extremely low supplies and high costs, a group of women inside gaza have opened up a baby diaper factory. the workers have to manually power the sewing machine to make each individual diaper because there's no electricity there. one of the 19 employees at the factory tells our nbc news team that she is sick wit cancer, this woman, and that her jobs help provide food for her family. she says the project will ease the suffering a lot of the displaced people feel. a u.n. official has estimated that one baby is born in that war zone every ten minutes.

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projected onto a building. it's the kind of memorial that if it was in russia would be met with consequences. from st. petersburg to moscow, more than 400 people have been arrested for acts as simple as laying flowers. a small city add dooef ka was captured this weekend. with congress here on break and aid to ukraine on certain, fear of what's next and whether europe can count on the u.s. in the future is mounting. bulgaria's minister is calling

for the ue to develop an army to prepare for possible russian expansion attempts. austria has committed nearly $2 billion to buying tanks. joining us, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel, white house correspondent erin gilchrist and evelyn farkas, executive director of the mccain institute. richard, russian authorities have been refusing to hand over alexi navalny's body. what can you tell us about the efforts to bring him home? >> reporter: so we're hearing more each day from alexei navalny's camp. it's getting more organized. his widow, yulia, is taking more of a leadership rule. we saw her today speaking on youtube. she said somebody else should be speaking on that channel, obviously her late husband. she said she's continuing this torch and she wants to bring

freedom to russia. she said that the investigation will continue into finding out exactly how her late husband, alexei navalny was killed. the eu also calling for an independent investigation. the eu, like the biden administration, is putting the blame at putin's feet saying no matter what happened putin is responsible for trumping up charges, charging him with fabricated charges, sending him to a penal colony in siberia where he was often kept in solitary confinement, over 300 days in solitary confinement which is a violation of russia's own laws. only supposed to be in solitary confinement for about two weeks there. but navalny's inner circle now have a specific theory that they're working toward, and it is that he was poisoned and that

the russian officials are holding navalny's body in order to allow time for the toxins to get out of his system, to make them undetectable. according to navalny's spokesperson, they have been told, allegedly, that the russians aren't handing over the body now and navalny's mother and lawyer were denied entry to a morgue. they say they were pushed out the door, because the russians are carrying out some sort of unspecified chemical tests over the next two weeks. that is according to navalny's spokeswoman. >> unbelievably difficult. i can't even imagine what his mother is going through right now. richard, thank you so much. evelyn, you were in munich over the weekend for that major security conference just as putin, who seems to feel emboldened that no opposition was going to be tolerated in his country. i wonder what impact navalny's death had on the conversations

that were being held in munich. >> chris, to be frank, it depressed everyone. it put a real paul on the entire proceedings. we were struggling with the fact that here in the united states we haven't been able to pass a much-needed package of assistance for ukraine, and the impact on the battlefield was being felt live. avdiivka has fallen, the russians have retaken it. i was traveling with the congressional delegation and they were not optimistic about their own ability to pass legislation to support ukraine, and then with navalny's death death, i think people, rather than feeling buoyed and energized by it, they feel deflated. i hope the house will pass something this week, and it will be a sign to vladimir putin that he has not won the battle of

wills. inside russia the situation looks bad. he was sending a signal to the community. >> this is not something we get to see all the time, and so i to play some of that. >> reporter: the tributes keep coming. a steady stream of people mourning the loss of a man whose fight for their future had cost him his him his life. >> translator: he was a real character. a man who was not afraid. we have few brave people now. it is very sad. >> the whole world show know that there are people who are terrified and who are shocked, who think all the political prisoners should be freed. >> reporter: the pris presence

in moscow markedly higher than normal, just like the people who came to pay their respects. the police told us we only have seven minutes to do filming here. the fact that you have large numbers of people coming to lay flowers two days after alexei navalny's death shows what kind of mark he leaves, certainly within a certain section of russian society. >> our thanks diana magnay. you could hear the emotion in that woman's voice saying people are sad, they're terrified, they're shocked. richard reported on this, that navalny's widow says she will pick up the torch. realistically what does the opposition look like today? >> well, it's a little bit hard to tell right now, chris. in munich i actually was able to attend a small breakfast that some of the opposition figures that were in exile, gary cass rov, they're working together trying to come up with a new strategy.

there might be an opportunity for the russian ex-files to work more cooperatively together. there are divisions, as you would imagine, that could be now really addressed. but inside russia it's becoming increasingly difficult. here in the u.s., we need to make sure that vladimir putin pays a price. you heard the young russian woman talk about the political prisoners. there are still people in prison, and in the earlier segment on msnbc, there was mention of john mccain. one of his pallbearers was a political distent who is being held today inside siberia, much as alexei navalny was, also poisoned twice. there are several others. i think our government needs to get energized and come up with a strategy to help these dissidents and frankly to punish vladimir putin. it's highly dangerous to those people behind bars including our

americans. >> there are lots of members of congresses echoing what we heard from evelyn. what are you hearing from the administration today? will there be a price to be paid? >> reporter: evelyn gives concerns. president biden addressed navalny's death again today as he was returning to the white house from the weekend in delaware. he was asked to sort of -- to answer questions about where he sees the responsibility and what he sees as the necessary next steps here. he has said that he believes vladimir putin's fingerprints are all over navalny's death. at this point, he believes the best way to push back against vladimir putin is for congress to pass funding to help ukraine continue his fight against russia. as far as the u.s. taking more actions against russia, the president was asked directly about that as well. i want you to hear a little bit of what he had to say.

>> -- over navalny's death? >> we already have sanctions, but we're considering additional sanctions, yes. >> reporter: so we know, chris, over the last two years the u.s. has levied sanctions against many of vladimir putin's friends, funders, oligarchs across the russian federation. at this point the president has implied that there is at least a conversation happening about additional sanctions, what other actions might be possible against russia and against vladimir putin. at the core of the president's argument right now, chris, is that ukraine funding, the security supplemental that the president has helped to advance, that the senate passed last week, for example, is something that needs to get through congress with great urgency so more weapons can be sent into ukraine to help in the fight against russia. >> in fact, evelyn, we have new reporting from my colleague courtney kube at the pentagon that the white house is considering sending ukraine missiles with a longer range than anything in their arsenal.

they've been asking for this for a long time. of course, they can only do this if congress passes that supplemental funding bill. so lean into your experience as deputy assistant secretary for russia and ukraine, how important is this moment and this decision over whether to send these missiles and, in fact, other aid? >> chris, i can't understand how important this would be. first of all, sending these longer-range missiles is a signal in and of itself. i would hope we wouldn't actually telegraph that to the world or to the russians, because what we need is the ukrainians to be able to use those missiles to take out substantial military targets like the kirsch bridge that leads from main land russia to crimea. we need to have the ukrainians hit targets inside of russia. that longer range is critical to helping them regain the initiative on land certainly. of course, they need additional air defense. so anyway we can do it, we need to do it and we need to do it

immediately. i sincerely know that the majority of the house members want to do this. if the administration is ready, they should be ready. now is the time. there's no better time than now. >> evelyn farkas, aaron gilchrist, thank you both. in 60 seconds, donald trump faces a ticking clock to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in court fines. so what happens if he doesn't come up with the cash in time? ? (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business.

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building every day. then, add in the roughly $88 million from the two e jean carroll defamation cases and you get a total of more than half a billion dollars. those civil fraud penalties come with a deadline, march 17th. that's just 28 days away. trump has to appeal by that date, and if he does, he has to either pay the money in full or get a bond likely using some of his assets as collateral. with all that in mind, trump is doing what he's so often done during his career, attaching his name to something he can sell. on saturday that something was trump-branded never surrender secrets, $399 a pop. >> this is something i've been talking about for 12 years, 13 years. i think it's going to be a big success. that's the real deal. >> if you don't like gold, they

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fined or -- the disgorgement award. there are some who believe actually it has to be 120% of that. but that bond has to be posted within 30 days of what's called the judgment. in this situation the opinion from judge engoron and the notice of entry which is equivalent to the new york state judgment kaems on the same day. that means the clock started ticking on saturday morning in terms of that 30 days, and we've got 28 left. >> matthew, forbes did a breakdown of trump's net worth last month, estimated as much less than he does, $2.6 billion with $640 million of that in cash and personal assets. that includes -- this is a big but -- his three homes in florida, his penthouse in new york. there's been a lot of talk as there might have to be a fire sell where he can sell some stuff off. i wonder, do you think there comes a point where the public or at least the persuadable part

of the public sees the impact of these fines and maybe it starts to make them a little nervous about donald trump? >> first, can i just pause. i have no idea what trump's cologne would smell like, first of all. it could smell like bankruptcy. i think you're right to focus on the persuadable public. we basically have 90% of the public locked in, 44 or 45% totally with him, 44 or 45% totally against him with about 10% left that's going to ultimately decide this election in the key states here. all of these judgments against him can have an effect on him in three different ways i think politically. his first is it's a constraint on his ability, on spending money in the campaign, if he was going to use his personal assets or seek money from other people in order to help them pay this. that constrains his political

campaign. second is, does he begin to be titled as a criminal or as a law breaker in this? that i think could ultimately have impacts on that 10%. i think most important is the impact on his brand. his brand has been built in two ways, successful businessman and winner. all of these lawsuits and all of these judgments basically hurt him. one, he continues to lose in case after case after case. so he gets branded a loser which is not good in people who want to support him. but two, it undermines this whole thing. all of us on this panel may have argued with this description of himself as a successful businessman. many people in america believe it. these judgments begin to undermine those things in him. it begins to be looked as a leerz and somebody who was not or is not a successful businessman. >> carol, we should note that trump has a couple of political

fund-raisers scheduled for later this week. he didn't have anything on his calendar today. can he just use political donations to pay off legal debts? >> his political action committee or pac, it's unclear. and that probably means at the end of the day he can use those funds to pay his legal fees that are connected to his run for the presidency. but they've already spent over $50 million of pac money to pay lawyers. lawyers are expensive. big-time lawyers who can command high legal fees because they're very much in demand are charging between $1,000 and $2500 an hour. where we talked about the personal judgments against donald trump or against the trump organization, that becomes more difficult, if they're based on fraud as this one was, he cannot use pac money.

he's got to use other money. >> lisa, can trump just keep appealing these judgments indefinitely to keep from paying or wait to see if he gets elected? is it usually 20% if he wants to get someone to secure this bond? can this go on indefinitely? >> let's take your first question about whether it can go on indefinitely. new york appeals are particularly slow. after someone calls what's called a notice of appeal which is the thing he has to do within 30 days, they have six months to perfect the ap people by compiling the trial record and putting that into the next appellate court in this case called the appellate division along with briefs and the like. new york appeals themselves are very slow. that having been said, one of the dangers to donald trump of these civil legal penalties is that, unlike the federal

criminal cases, which he very well could cause or wipe clean if re-elected, he cannot simply erase civil liabilities regardless of what court they come from, a state or federal court, just by virtue of being re-elected. so while he might have a long runway to appeal, he will not be able to fully escape a judgment that is upheld by an appellate court or twor here no matter how hard he tries in both this case and the e. jean carroll case. in terms of the bond, you're right to say he would likely have to give an insurer, for example, 20% of what's already owed. more importantly, that 20% isn't all. any insurer that gets involved here would want collateral in the form, for example, of one of his real estate assets. the problem is trump is not allowed currently to transfer those assets without the permission or knowledge of the independent monitor in his case.

he can't move around his real estate empire, even if it's still actually an empire, like he just has monopoly pieces that he can pick up and move around. that will be a real impediment for him if he's trying to secure some sort of insurance policy rather than putting up the money himself. >> there has been a push among trump supporters to help him out, matthew. so far a gofundme page has raised a little more than half a million dollars. some folks say it's just one more reason they support him. >> that was a witch hunt. that was actually a sham placed by the biden administration to try to defame our president, try to defame president trump, trying to get his money and take his money from him. >> i don't know how anybody could go through what he has gone through and still be so upbeat about it. >> i'm going to go out on a

limb, matthew and call those folks unpersuadable. but i wonder what you're seeing as the next days and weeks go by in terms of the politics of this, just one example as bloomberg is reporting that he may run out of money to pay his lawyers come summertime. there are a lot of bad headlines that can follow. not going to move those folks, but again, back to that question, does it really start to eat into that small group of truly swing voters? >> i think at some point we get in this campaign and it's hard to judge things today, but more to judge them in the late summer and fall when people begin to focus. i think he's going to suffer from this exhaustion factor that voters begin to have. just like another one, another one, another one. all of us on this panel have been talking about this, but we're here today where the legal issues and the political -- the

legal calendar and political calendar have now completely converged. that is problematic for him at this point in time. he had wanted to avoid that convergence as long as possible. we're now 8 month, 8.5 months before election day and it's affecting him monetarily and how it affects his campaign, and they've converged on his brand and could ultimately converge on these future cases on whether or not is he free, is his legal freedom in this, because he's about to be tried on various criminal trials. i think over time the exhaustion of all of this. not the people interviewed there, they're convinced of every lie he tells, including that the election was stolen. there's no way you can convince them. i think of the 10% who may not like joe biden, they're just going to be exhausted by this mountain of stuff they keep hearing about with donald trump. >> we're pretty much out of time, carol, but i have to ask you, given this bloomberg

report, already spent $51 million by their estimate on lawyers and he could run out of money by july, and the four criminal cases we all know are coming. is it possible that that amount of money grows by even tens of millions more? is that out of the realm of possibility? >> chris, it is definitely going to grow by tens of million offense dollars more. defending these criminal cases is going to cost millions and millions of dollars. i can't emphasize enough to lisa's point how devastating it is for donald trump and the trump organization to have a corporate monitor in the form of former judge barbara jones inside that organization. the trump organization has always been donald trump's place for financial mischief. it's a privately family-owned company. he could command anything he wanted in there. now you're seeing it stripped away. it's too bad most people are not going to read judge engoron's

order or judgment because it lays clear what the financial mischief was here, and he's simply not going to be able to do it anymore. >> finally, because i can answer a question here -- are you sitting down, matthew? according to the website selling the cologne, it smells of a crisp opening of citrus blends into a cedar heart underpinned by a rich base of leather and amber, victory 47. matthew dowd, carol lam, lisa rubin. first service "chris jansing reports." appreciate you. still to come on a much more serious note, the emotional tributes after two minnesota police officers and a paramedic are gunned down in the line of duty. we are live with the latest next. re live with the latest next lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. delicious too. just ask my old friend, kevin. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching the game. who's winning? we are, my friend. we are.

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