♪♪ it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, the college murder mystery. classes canceled at the university of colorado's colorado springs campus today after two people were gunned down in a dorm with no suspect identified.

the widow of alexei navalny vowing to continue her fight for a free russia. her emotional message after accusing the kremlin of covering up his murder. sounding the alarm, why one republican congressman is defending his decision to put out a cryptic tweet alluding to classified information about russia trying to put nukes into space. and the knives are out, how the antics of a right wing provocateur are creating divisions inside trump world. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin in colorado where police are searching for answers after a gunman killed two people in a college dorm room. emilie ikeda is following this story. what do we know? >> reporter: a lot of unanswered questions, which lends its to why there's unease at the campus of university of colorado, colorado springs. we know the shooting happened early friday morning around 6:00 a.m. and that led to a campus lockdown, two people

found dead inside a college dorm room, identified as 26-year-old celie montgomery, who authorities say was not a student at the school, and 24-year-old sam knopp, a senior studying music, a talented guitarist and musician at the school. one of the more heart wrenching details, before authorities confirmed who he was, sam knopp's mom posted to facebook. there are reports of an active shooter on campus. i haven't heard from sam. this hits too close to home. a lot of unanswered questions. police do not believe this was a murder-suicide situation. the active investigation still underway. they do believe this is an isolated incident and it was not just some random attack against the school or other students at the university, but still, with so many limited details around who is responsible for this double homicide so many people feeling uneasy. take a listen here. >> this is a massive shock for

all of us. this is not, you know, the ucs campus that we know. >> i still feel really on edge. i feel like a lot of people don't know how they're supposed to be reacting right now. >> reporter: the university says safety is a top priority. classes as you mentioned have been canceled today. they are offering supportive services and a day of healing, a walk of healing on campus today. also, chris, i'll mention, i am expecting an update from police any minute now. we'll see what that entails. chris. >> emilie ikeda, thank you. the widow of alexei navalny is vowing to continue his fight against vladimir putin. nbc's richard engel is reporting from eastern ukraine. what more, richard, are we hearing from yulia. >> reporter: we are hearing she is determined to keep his mission going. she appeared on the internet, spoke on you tube, a platform

that alexei navalny used effectively to start his anticorruption campaign that exposed the ill gotten fortunes of vladimir putin and his inner circle, and she went on to you tube, and she said that there should be somebody else speaking in her place but that her husband was murdered by vladimir putin. the family has yet to recover the body of alexei navalny, and they are ask the government to hand over the body. in fact, they are deeply suspicious that the government is deliberately holding on to the body so that any residue of poison could be impossible to detect by the time they are eventually given the remains. that's their speculation. in fact, the spokesperson said she had been informed and the camp had been informed that the russian government intends to hold the body for two weeks to carry out some unspecified

toxicology exams and the official russian accounting of events is that navalny, while held at this penal colony in siberia, took a walk. roughly at 2:00 in the afternoon, suddenly felt ill, and collapsed, lost consciousness and died and that they were unable to revive him. they certainly don't believe that in the navalny camp, and certainly his widow, yulia, does not believe that. she spoke after meeting with european officials who promised to launch an independent investigation. ♪♪

>> reporter: there really is not an effective opposition movement in russia right now. vult has been -- vladimir putin has been in power for almost a quarter of a century now, and opposition leaders, people who have stood against vladimir putin have found themselves either killed under mysterious circumstances or they have been arrested, harassed, forced to leave the country, there is an active opposition movement abroad with intellectuals speaking out against vladimir putin and the united states across europe, eastern europe, but what navalny did, and which ultimately cost him his life is he decided to be an activist in russia open challenging the government and vladimir putin could not accept that. first had him poisoned, then imprisoned and now navalny

supporters say had him murdered. >> and he did it knowing that might well be the outcome. richard engel, thank you for that. now to washington where the chairman of the house intelligence committee is defending his decision to put out a cryptic warning that sparked alarm last week. nbc's ryan nobles is reporting on capitol hill. what exactly, ryan, is congressman mike turner saying? >> reporter: it's interesting, chris, because there was a degree of pushback by the alarm that the chairman raised last week here on capitol hill that perhaps the necessity to bring every single member of congress into the room to review the material wasn't necessarily equal to the national security threat it presented but the chairman is insistent that he wanted to put the biden administration on notice, and that's why he thought that was necessary. listen to what he told kristen welker over the weekend. >> everyone who's looked at it, used the same language that i have, it is a serious threat. my concern is that this is kind of like the chinese spy balloon and the administration is hiding

perhaps some inaction. but as this becomes more and more public, and the administration grapples with what we're dealing with, i think they are going to be taking it seriously. >> reporter: and of course, nbc has been able to confirm that this intelligence that the chairman is concerned about is the possibility of russia developing some sort of a nuclear powered or nuclear weapon in space that would interrupt satellite communications which of course would debilitate many of the work being done not only here in the domestic united states but of course with military operations and intelligence operations around the world. turner says he now feels confident that the administration is taking this seriously. obviously everyone here in congress has been looped in. the broader question is does it lead congress to take action on a number of national security measures. principally, that aid for ukraine and israel which remains stalled in the house and the

reauthorization of the federal surveillance program, held up by republicans. both things are linked in some sort of connection to this intelligence, not directly but part and parcel to it. we don't know if it's going to change course or lead to the changing of course for republicans who have been opposed to it. chris. >> ryan nobles, thank you. a prominent conservative activist helped kick the rnc chairwoman out of her job, and now she's fighting to get them kicked out of trump world with some help. nbc's dasha burns is following this for us. why is charlie kirk so influential and is he going anywhere? >> why is he influential and why do we care about this story? the reason is these sort of influencers in trump world have an outsized impact. he's someone that has trump's ear, that has the ear of folks in his family, like don jr. they are close allies, and so what he tends to whisper in those ears matters, like

ron na mcdaniel, he was part of the attempt to oust her from the rnc. however, this is somebody that has a podcast that is downloaded maybe half a million to 3/4 million times a day, and what he says can have a good impact. it can have a bad impact. recently he's questioned whether martin luther king jr. deserves a federal holiday. he has questioned the diversity efforts in airlines wondering if it means he can't trust black pilots. that is a concern, of course, for the trump campaign. this is a demographic they want to make end roads. they want to court black voters, and they're worried this might have negative impacts. at the same time, charlie kirk's turning point usa is a massive influential organization aimed specifically at young conservatives, which is, again, young voters.

a demographic that republicans are trying to boost, when they see the youth drifting away from president biden. there are benefits charlie kirk brings and explosive downsides as well. what's not clear is how former president trump actually feels about him. some sources have said he believes he's a juggernaut, when it comes to fundraising, when it comes to the megaphone. will this have an impact itself? unclear, there are concerns about the people in trump's world about the influence of this person. >> dasha burns knows. very briefly off the campaign trail. relentless rivers keep pounding california, leading to dramatic water rescues like this one in eldorado hills northeast of the bay area. we've got a live report right after this. after this ase from rv in people 60 years and older. it's not for everyone

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mother nature's hit list, a risk of flooding, landslides and a potential tornado threat. travel is a mess with damaged roads across the state as the already water logged land floods and them crumbles. in the bay area, route 84 is only open to one-way traffic after a chunk of it cracked off falling into the river below. my goodness, look at that. and route 101 closed down in delnorte county. further to the south lanes on the same freeway is flooded near ventura county, and water is still coming, pouring on to barriers on the interstate. firefighters are posted on the sides of roads, digging ditches, trying to keep flood waters as low as possible. nbc's dana griffin is reporting from los angeles. i'm joined by nbc meteorologist

bill karins. how is the state dealing with all of this rain? >> reporter: chris, we just heard from some officials recently in los angeles county saying that they are responding already to certain things, including four reports of mud slides and three reports of downed trees. they are watching the storms for any impacts that could develop. right thousand, we're just seeing the steady stream of rain that's falling right now in los angeles county, but as you can see on your screen, these are just some of the impacts flooded roadways, downed trees, mud slides a highway being closed. right now, the brunt of the storm is being felt in santa barbara county where they had some more flooding issues overnight. and you can see this tree falling down, this landslide that's happening on your screen. this is the concern as the storm continues. while it may not be as impactful as the last one that hit earlier this month, especially in los angeles county, there is a lot of saturated ground in this area. so the concern is when you got more rain falling, it could lead

to more flash flooding, more downed trees. right now, they are warning people, if you have your car in a low lying area, move it. don't hit the road if you don't have to. be vigilant and watch for the potential for trees and landslides happen, and backyards like we saw earlier this month. >> california hasn't caught a break this year. i think the santa barbara airport closed. there have been ripple effects in many other places. what's going on? when is this latest storm going to stop? >> we're fortunate we didn't have school in session today, and people commuting in and out out of the roads getting closed off too. this storm, you can see it pin wheeling off the coast. it's going to weaken over the next two days. it's not going to move much. we had really heavy rain. and we're still going to have isolated problems for the next two days. that's why we have the 35 million in flood alerts 14 million in wind alerts, 20,000

people without power. compare that to two weeks ago, we got a quarter million people without power. this is minor compared to that. it's still causing issues. we've had flash flood warnings for areas outside of los angeles, santa barbara and oxnard. there's some isolated areas of rain. we're not seeing the heavy stuff anymore. here's downtown l.a. and this flash flood warning, which includes the malibu area, until 6:00 p.m. this evening. the ground is so wet and saturated and the additional rainfall could cause landslides and rock slides. how about this, in downtown l.a., we're now over 11 inches of rain this month alone. we're now within about 2 inches of the february record, which goes back to the super el nino in 1998, if that rings a bell. we're in el nino this year. everyone in california gets their attention because i know that typically brings these huge storms that bring wet weather. an additional 1 to 3 inches in the city areas. the hills could get maybe

isolated up to maybe 5, 6, 7 inches for totals close to 10 inches, northern portions of california, you're going to get additional rainfall. as far as flooding goes, mostly areas below reno, below lake tahoe, heading toward sacramento. once you get below the freezing level, we could have possibility, and later on today, don't be surprised if we start talking about severe storms and tornado warnings in areas of california. doesn't happen that often but from sacramento to chico to modesto, those are areas of concern. isolated tornadoes. it's not that unheard of. we have had february tornadoes in california before. hopefully these will miss and not miss anyone. >> bill karins, thank you, my friend, appreciate it. rough weather delayed the daytona 500 until today. it's the opening race of the season. it will start just a little more than an hour from now. and so far, fingers crossed, skies have been clear. coming up on "chris jansing

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navalny's death, trump has not condemned it or criticized the leader. he compared what he sees as his own persecution by the left to navalny. let's bring in nbc's senior national politics reporter jonathan allen. sam stein is "politico's" deputy managing editor, and msnbc contributor. adrienne elrod is a former senior aide to the biden/harris campaign. good to have you all with us. sam, "the washington post" previously some weeks ago did a deep dive. they found that during his four years in office, donald trump appears to have never once mentioned navalny's name. now he's comparing their fates. what's trump's play here? >> well, trump is predisposed, i would say, to not being critical of vladimir putin. remember at one point in time, he said our country's history was not something to brag about when asked about vladimir putin's crackdown on democracy and dissidence.

you know, is this unexpected for trump? no, he's been doing this for years now. he's cozying up to putin, he made it known that he's not a fan of nato. just last week, he criticized nato countries for not paying the 2% of the military budgets and invited russia to attack nato countries that were not in terms of that 2% level. with respect to navalny, what he's doing is echoing what is becoming an emerging republican talking point, which is to try to use the navalny death to say, well, it's just like persecution in the u.s. and donald trump for all of these criminal trials and for fraud for his role on january 6th. obviously it's an absurd comparison, but it allows him to not be critical of vladimir putin, and allows him to go a step further, cast himself in the same light. >> you know, adrienne, even some of his biggest supporters, trump's biggest supporters, at least are condemning this death.

republican senator tim scott criticized putin and then insisted simultaneously that trump is the person to take him on. >> the murderous dictator that is president putin looks for ways to take out the competition. we need strong leadership that pushes back against russia and other dictators. unfortunately joe biden is not up for that charge and donald trump is. >> of course factually we've never seen trump push back against him, but you've got to look at our most recent nbc poll. it showed just a 34% approval of the president's handling of foreign policy. and i wonder, because it does seem that this has resonated with the american people. can joe biden use this moment to change that narrative that he is not strong, that trump is the strong one? >> yeah, absolutely, chris. i mean, first of all, that was a pretty pathetic, quote unquote

defense coming from tim scott who's docking for the trump vice president pick, assuming that trump is not the nominee. this is what these guys do, go out there and say putin is terrible, he's a dictator, we must come condemn him, and trump is the guy to do it. trump is saying what he would do if he were president, which is to cozy up to vladimir putin, and by the way, he has made it very clear, chris, that he would rule like a dictator here in the united states if he gets reelected president. they're trying to have it both ways. it's a silly thing they have been doing since trump was the nominee in 2016. once this becomes a binary race, the choice is going to become more and more clear to the american people that president biden who has been handling a series of complicated foreign policy challenge and handling

them well, when you see the contrast to the erratic gop nominee who is donald trump, i think the american people are going to start tuning in more and biden's numbers are going to go up when it comes to handling foreign policy. >> we should note there is a republican primary going on. so i come to you. how is nikki haley respond to go trump? >> she said today that he's weak in the knees when it comes to putin. and, you know, as adrienne and sam both pointed out, there is no real record of donald trump standing up to putin. if anything he stood up to putin's enemies. he stood up to nato. he is, you know, basically stood up to ukraine, and not done anything to show that he disapproves of what vladimir putin is doing in general or specifically with regard to the death of navalny. so, you know, haley's going to make this point, there are moderate republicans, democrats, whether that's enough to move the needle in a republican primary, at best remains to be

seen for her. she does still trail trump significantly in primaries, in primary polls of her home state and really most of the other states. >> sam, this morning, president biden meantime called out house republicans who object to his ukraine aid request. let's play that. >> they're making a big mistake. look, the way they're walking away from the threat of russia. the way they're walking away from nato. the way they're walking away from meeting our obligations is just shocking. i've been here for a while, i've never seen anything like this. >> do you think, sam, the death of navalny changes the politics at all on ukraine aid? >> yes and no. i mean, i think obviously what you've seen is a number of congressional republicans respond, you know, very much condemning russia, very much posturing as foes of vladimir putin, and that includes trump. people like tim scott who are trying to ingratiate themselves

with trump. at the same time, what you have not seen, at least not yet is any sort of legislative movement in the house. keep in mind this is sort of a narrow procedural issue for ukraine aid. basically, the speaker could bring up the bill if it passed the senate. it would likely have the majority in the house, but he's not going to do it, and there's nothing that has come up in the past couple of days to suggest that speaker mike johnson will have a change of heart in terms of doing that. if anything, you can see that republicans continue to try to rhetorically align themselves with the anti-putin camp. but also aligning himself politically with donald trump, who has not been supportive. he said if aid were the path he'd want it to be alone. >> do you think, adrienne, and i do think there is outrage against what the united states believes most democracies if not all democracies believe was the murder of alexei navalny, that

maybe republicans think, you know, people's attention span is short, they're not going to be back in session for a couple of weeks. by then, there's going to be pressing matters like, oh, can we keep the government open, and this will be a story in their past, and they pay no political price for it. >> yeah, i think, chris, that's what they're hedging, that's the bet they're hedging their bets on. but simply not going to be the case. we are literally dealing with a series of foreign policy challenges globally, and if ukraine is not funded, the united states has not passed its funding, it's going to have massive consequence. again, as we get closer to the election, more people start tuning in. president biden is making it clear what that contrast between him and trump is and what him and the maga republicans are. he just made that, as you saw, before he was getting on to travel somewhere, he is going to continue to make that point. more and more people are going to be tuning in. they're going to understand the consequences to not funding a democracy like ukraine that is being invaded by russia.

and there's going to be global consequences if that doesn't happen. i also think, chris, there's enough. i can't believe i'm saying this, but i do think there's enough normal republicans in the house like mike turner, for example, who are going to hopefully be able to corral some of their maga extremists and get them over the finish line to get the funding across. if they don't, this only helps democrats in the midterms. i'm not saying this is a good thing at all, but it's enough of an issue it's going to help democrats take back the house in 2024. >> jonathan allen and sam stein, appreciate it. adrienne, please stick around. we have breaking news about the colorado murder investigation we reported on at the top of the hour. the colorado springs police department says a suspect has been taken into custody after two people, a student and a woman were found gunned down in a dorm room on that campus at the university of colorado in colorado springs. police say more details about the suspect and the charges will

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the headlines about joe biden's age are everywhere. calls for democrats to find another nominee, warnings that supporters need to address his age head on, and our own nbc reporting on how the president's allies are doing just that. much of this angst, driven by polls showing a majority of americans think both biden and donald trump are too old to serve another term. but there's also this new poll of historians ranking biden as the 14th best president in history declaring his top achievement to be evicting donald trump from the white house. and where does trump rank? dead last. nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting from washington, d.c. back with us, adrienne elrod. how are biden's allies stepping forward to help him with this ongoing age issue? >> reporter: chris, after the special counsel report a week or so ago, we have seen many people

pointing out the fact that president biden is 81 years old, and folks who have been close to him at different points in his presidency says he shows it. he's showing the age in how he moves and talks. there's one former democrat who said he was in the room with the president for a meeting, and found him to be rambling and nostalgic about different points during his time in public service. there was another house democrat who told nbc news he questioned whether the president was actually running the white house, whether otherwise might have an oversized influence on major decisions. at the same time, the white house has released memos listing people from both political parties that said they have had engagements with president biden where he has been sharp and in command. the vice president herself talking about how the president is the one who directs actions, asks important questions. we have heard other advocates and surrogates on tv talking about how the president shows up in meetings with him. i want you to hear what senator

amy klobuchar had to say on "meet the press" this weekend. >> i was with the president for over an hour, and talked about so many things, domestic, international, he was focused. his recall was good. as someone who ran against joe biden, as someone who has spent significant amount of time with joe biden, that he is up for this job. >> reporter: chris, as you said, this challenge, the questions about the president's age and mental sharpness are not going to go away. the polling that we've seen so far this year has suggested that this is a concern for many voters out there. we had one democratic congresswoman, representative debbie dingell of michigan say in this election year that people around the president need to let joe biden be joe biden. get out there, talk to people, show people that he has a command of what he's doing in his every day interactions, and to talk about the things that he's accomplished, a man of advanced years, but one they say who has done a lot for the country for the time he's been

in office, and that's something they think he needs to get out there himself to make sure he's pushing. >> that is an argument, adrienne, that people who even support joe biden make. they say it's not enough for other people to say, when i'm with him, he's sharp and in command. he has to be out there showing he's sharp and in command. former strategist james carville told "the new york times," a campaign needs important assets but the most desirable asset is the candidate, and the biden campaign does not deploy biden like he is a desirable asset. do they need to put him out there more and let biden be biden? >> i think he's doing plenty. he's traveling the country. he's doing a lot of events. i think you're going to continue as the campaign ramps up to see a two-track process where he's being president of the united states, he's running the country as the chief executive but he's also going out on the campaign trail, interacting with voters, pressing the flesh. i understand there's some blind sources and some stories who are saying what they're saying, but the people i'm going to look to

for credibility on this are people like amy klobuchar, mitch landrieu, people who have spent time with president biden and understand what his line of thinking is, understand how strong he is in meetings. you don't pass four major economic bills, you don't create 14.3 million jobs, you don't put the first black woman on the supreme court if you don't have all of your faculties with you. it's just, you know, a narrative that i think is going to keep resisting. i think the biden campaign and the biden white house is being smart by continuing business as usual, getting him out there on the campaign trail, and i think you'll see more in the weeks and months knead. >> adrienne, i think you know charlamagne tha god, he told abc that biden should turn to his vice president for the role. >> he's an uninspiring candidate. there's nothing about joe biden that makes you want to listen to him. he should be leaning on, you

know, his vice president, kamala harris, who's way more charismatic than him. he should be leaning on other surrogates. she is the first woman of color in that position. there's things that she could talk about, things that she could say that i feel like he can't. she could go out there and really let the american people, you know, know what's going on. >> do you think, adrienne, that kamala harris has been under used or if not, is it a problem that that seems to be the perception, at least among some people? >> her office would tell you that she's been traveling the country, traveling the world. she came from the munich security conference, and often times it's not getting covered. we're talking about biden's age, when she has been traveling all over the country, all over the world, being the vice president, doing her job, and i think, chris, as she's going out there more, doing this reproductive freedom tour, where i think personally, she shines, she's able to really draw a contrast between what republicans stand for, that donald trump is

responsible for ultimately overturning roe because he put three supreme court justices who were very staunchly pro life, antiabortion on the supreme court, who ultimately overturned it, she's going to black churches, she's spending time, you know, really digging into swing states, and of course she's also doing the job as the vice president. i think she is out there doing a lot of things. i think the media covers her even more in terms of what she's doing, and i think you'll continue to see her be his top surrogate as we get closer to the election. >> we're just about out of time, but i want to ask you about that new poll of historians, biden 14th best president in history, trump 45th. the biden campaign put out a statement reading in part, donald trump spent his four years in office working for only one thing, himself. meanwhile, president biden wakes up every day fighting for the american people. a very wise and successful campaign manager once told me you really need to get one

message and make sure it resonates with voters. is that it? president biden wakes up every day, what's the one message that you think will work for this campaign above all else? >> i think the message that works for this campaign, chris, is president biden gets things done. and then you've got a litany of things to prove that, not only has he passed a lot of legislation, but he's also created a lot of jobs. he's gotten a lot of people back to work. the chips and science act, which i spent a year working for implementing at the department of congress is going to create hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. it's going to get people who have been working in jobs they don't love and they're underqualified for back in jobs that really matter, and it's something that president biden says a lot that i think is meaningful is, yeah, people want to have a job with dignity, and i think a lot of what he's doing is creating jobs, getting back to people, getting people back to work in jobs that actually have dignity that they can have a lot of faith and confidence in their work, and i think that's going to be one of his most

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moment that brought an audience to its feet. michael j. fox making a surprise on stage appearance at last night's baftas awards, the british version of the oscars. and beyond presenting the evening's final award for best film, fox once again is an inspiration as he battles parkinson's disease. nbc's chloe me las is with me in studio. walk us through that which i have to admit i teared up, and there are a lot of other major highlights. >> it was an unexpected surprise. he got a standing ovation. it was a who's who of hollywood at the baftas, and "oppenheimer" swept. hollywood's biggest night across the pond. and it was a thrilling night for

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been getting a lot is does this mean that "oppenheimer" would likely sweep at the oscars, which are next month. here's the deal, what i can tell you is this, some of the voting body of the baftas has overlap with the academy voting body, but if you look at last year, all quiet on the western front, it swept at the baftas, and what won at the oscars, "everything everywhere all at once," you don't know. there's always those unpredictable moments at the oscars, but it was a big night for "oppenheimer" and such emotional moments. >> can i say, what a great year for movies. spectacular. >> chloe melas, great to have you here on a holiday. thank you so much. and coming up, is apple's latest tech gamble a flop. why some people who just got their vision pro headsets are already taking them back. but first, do you want to be a martian? then nasa has the opportunity

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say they want their money back. >> i hate to say it, but i'm actually returning apple vision pro. here's why. >> reporter: since the apple vision pro debuted earlier this month. >> it's not comfortable. it does not replace this. >> reporter: some apple fanatics and early adopters are explaining why they chose to return the red hot headwear within the 14 day window allowed. >> if i wear this for more than two hours, i get a bad migraine and my forehead starts to hurt. >> even though some are blown away by its immersive features, the complaints ranging from a lack of comfort to limited options for apps to a price tag that can easily touch north of $4,000. narinder said he would pay that hefty sum if he wasn't using it mainly to watch videos, especially if the device can't be worn easily for hours in theater mode. after how long would you say you started to feel physical symptoms just from wearing the

device. >> there was eyestrain after 45 minutes. >> reporter: the "wall street journal's" joanna stern reviewed the product. >> part of the reason the returns are happening is people get into the store, and they're like holy, wow, this is amazing, and then they get home, and they realize, i'm not going to use this thing so much, and i paid a lot of money. >> reporter: that wow factor convinced luke miani it was a worthwhile investment. >> i think they absolutely knocked it out of the park with just interacting with non-existent windows that appear to be floating in midair. >> reporter: mark zuckerberg, not impressed, comparing the apple vision pro to his meta quest 3. >> i just don't think that quest is the better value, i think quest is the better product period. >> reporter: as for the users, showing up on the subway, and even dinners with apple vision pros on. >> what's up with the pinchers? >> reporter: miani called this kind of kis taup