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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> you girls will serve the leaders, and their barren wives. you will bear children for them. >> tonight on "the reidout," yes, american women are facing a real life handmaid's tale, overturning roe wasn't enough for republicans. now some on the right are coming after in vitro fertilization. even birth control. as president biden announces 500 new sanctions against russia following the death of alexei navalny, republicans are pushing even harder to abandon ukraine. >> plus, does nikki haley realistically have any chance of winning the republican nomination if she's unable to win her home state of south carolina in tomorrow's primary? we'll discuss in tonight's friday politics block. but first, we begin tonight with a frightening question.
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what if the next presidential election is already decided? what if the maga republican led house of representatives decided to just steal the election on their own? we talk about democracy under threat a lot on this show because it is very much under threat. but we need to talk about, like, how real that threat is with someone like speaker mike johnson at the helm. it's all outlined in a new op-ed by tom rogers who makes the case that the ability to manipulate an election outcome is far greater now than ever before. rogers writes that the potential overturning of the upcoming 2024 election is more plausible and dangerous than it was in 2020, because mike johnson is not only an election denier but also a ring leader of the previous effort. rogers quotes from a recent article published in the washington spectator writtening by political veterans.
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the piece states that next to the election of the president, nothing is more important than the election of the new speaker. writing, quote, the party controlling the speakership has the potential power to reverse the results of the presidential election and deliver the white house to itself. the piece outlines exactly how and why this should terrify americans. and this dangerous scenario, the current election denying republican majority in the days following the november elections might decide that they're going to challenge the results of certain house races that democrats won. just because. because they don't like the results. they don't like how the american people voted. democracy be damned. and then, perthis scenario, the current republican majority could deny certification of enough democratic election winners to preserve the republican majority in the congress. once the republicans have effectively stolen the house
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majority and elected a speaker, the next step in an election denial process would be to refuse to certify the electoral college results of certain states. which would mean neither candidate gets to the 270 electoral college votes needed to win. that would throw the election to the house of representatives. and once the presidential race is thrown to the house, the president is chosen on a state by state delegation vote. a vote that in the current house makeup, republicans would win. and trump would be the president regardless of whether a majority of americans or even a majority of the electoral college chose him. now, of course, a major factor in this scenario is having a full cadre of election deniers who continue to claim joe biden is not the legitimate president and the 2020 election results should never have been certified, which of course, trump and his congressional flunkies continue to claim. congresswoman elise stefanik for instance once a normie
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republican and now full fledged maga republican would not even commit to certifying the 2024 election results during an interview with nbc's kristen welker. >> what about 2024? >> we will see. if this is a legal and valid election. >> just to be very clear, i don't hear you committed to certifying the election results. will you only commit if president trump wins? >> it means if they're constitutional. what we saw in 2020 was unconstitutional circumventing of the constitution. >> medish and mcclearly write in their piece that good faith can no longer be assumed. that is certainly the case. before mike johnson became speaker, meaning before anyone knew who he was, the louisiana congressman was a mouthpiece for wild conspiracy theories supporting the big lie. he then voted against certifying biden's victory even after the january 6th attack on the capitol. mike johnson isn't just an election denying republican speaker who could overturn a
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presidential election as if that wasn't enough, he's a man with a two-seat majority who cannot pass a budget but manages to secure enough republican votes to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas, simply because that is what trump wants. he also has some intense christian nationalist leanings. >> i am a bible believing christian. someone asked me today in the media, they said, it's curious. people are curious, what does mike johnson think about any issue under the sun? i said well, go pick up a bible off your shelf and read it. that's my world view. that's what i believe. >> okay, so his world view, his views stem from his take on the bible. not a big deal if you're a civilian or a regular voter. quite the problem when you're house speaker and relying on your particular interpretation of a religious book to determine public policy rather than the constitution. but also speaker mike, what was that part in the bible about treating the foreigner as one of
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your own? per politico, he delivered a presentation at a republican retreat in florida which came off more like a sermon according to two people in the room. johnson contended that when one doesn't have god in their life, the government or the state will become their guide, referring back to bible verses. one of the sources there wasn't having it. i'm not at church, they said. meaning johnson is so far out there that even other republicans are pushing back on the god talk. this is why we need to be very concerned. mike johnson has the conviction, the motivation, and now the opportunity to steal the next election for donald trump. he is a far right wing evangelical christian who suggested his election as house speaker was ordained literally by god. even billing himself as a modern day moses. so if god tells him to steal a few elections to make trump president, what are you going to do? then what happens if god tells him to make trump president for life? joining me now is democratic congressman eric swalwell of
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california, and michael waldman, president and ceo of the brennan center for justice at nyu school of law and the author of "the super majority, how the supreme court divided america." normally, i would defer to the congressman first, but i'm going to come here to the table to michael waldman, because you wrote about this before. you have talked through this scenario. i think when folks saw that article in newsweek, they thought that would never happen. could that happen? ? well, we have learned we need to be imaginative about what could be done because things we never thought were possible happened in 2020 and before. and so we need to look at all these ways that in our country, unlike other democracies, there's no umpire who says, oh, yeah, this person won, that person won. neutral and respected. it turns out to be this very slapdash system going back many years where you can manipulate things. there's good news. even mike johnson. even this election denier who no
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one heard of who is now the speaker is constrained by this law passed at the end of the last congress. the electoral count reform act. it is harder for him to try to throw the election in that way than it would have been a few years ago. that's the good news. the bad news is we have to be really vigilant, for example, the attacks on these things have actually moved to the states. we now have election deniers who sort of wormed their way into jobs running elections in local areas. now, there's courts and there's laws and constitutions in the states that have stopped that kind of stuff up until now. but we need to be on our game. anybody who cares about democracy, between now and when the next president puts their hand on that bible. >> i mean, congressman swalwell, here's the challenge. pretty much everyone who is setting themselves up in their hope of being the next hang mike pence, which i don't know why anyone would want that job since donald trump did try to get the last guy killed, but they all want to be vice president with
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him, right? here's byron donalds talking about whether he would support rejecting the 2024 result if trump doesn't win. >> i think congress has a responsibility within the electoral process to be that last constitutional check on what happened in states. if there are issues where states were avoiding election procedures that were passed by the legislature, ignoring them out of hand or if there were some clear subversion that was going on, members of congress have a responsibility to speak to that. >> so he's not the only one who talks that way, congressman. elise stefanik, there's a reason kristen welker asked her, are you saying you would refuse it certify the election unless donald trump wins. she wouldn't answer. tim scott would not answer the question. he wants to be vice president. vivek ramaswamy said he would have certified but pence should have done some magical reforms. the others haven't really addressed it, but there are enough of them serving with you
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who said, um. >> joy, republicans don't any longer believe in the ideas of freedom and democracy. those are the ideas that america was founded upon. they don't believe in idea anymore of america. they believe in an idol. that idol is donald trump. when you talk about speaker johnson's faith, his faith doesn't concern me. every american has a choice to follow a god or to not. but what should concern anyone of faith is that the first commandment in the christian faith is to not follow any other gods. to just follow the lord. and they have put everything into helping donald trump. they have taken our house and turned it into a law firm. the professor would probably appreciate that the house is now the largest law firm in d.c. and they work every day for just one client. and it doesn't matter if that defies freedom, democracy, and the rule of law.
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they have put that idol above the idea of democracy. >> that is the first commandment. thou shalt have no other god before me. idolatry is actually a sin. but to stay with you for a moment, congressman. has the democratic caucus talked through what they would do if people like byron donalds, if people like mike johnson, decide to challenge the seating of members of congress, democrats who win elections? this is not like this has never happened. there is the famous case of senator theodore bilbo of mississippi who there was a whole hearing in the united states senate as to whether he was going to be seated because there was some financial chicanery and violent talk leading up to the election in 1946. they questioned in 1947 whether they were going to seat him at all. congress does make its own rules. has the democratic caucus talked through what they would do if mike johnson leads members of his caucus to not seat democrats such that there are not enough
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votes to certify the election, let's say, and trump wins? >> we're prepared. under leader jefferies, he was at the leadership table, i was at the leadership table in 2021 as speaker pelosi worked with jamie raskin and adam schiff to prepare for the challenges that were coming. and we have most of those members will still be in the house. so just as they have priors in challenging the elections, we have prior experience. but just look at two weeks ago when tom suozzi wins in a blowout election on long island and asked to be seated, and leader jefferies asked to seat swazi that week as republicans have seated their members in the past when they win that week, and they refused to seat him. and that's because of the thin majority that they have. so we'll come back, and i hope he's seated, but they have shown they will play fast and loose if it benefits them. >> and michael, the norms are already busted. mitch mcconnell refused to allow
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the sitting president of the united states to fill the supreme court vacancy that is his right under the constitution to fill. the norms are dead. republicans want that white house. they want the senate and the house. they have a lot of ulterior motives for why. there's no reason why they wouldn't -- they cheated before, why not? >> and every president had been able to fill before. one of the things to note is we have to always call out, there's a big lie in what those members of congress are saying. oh, the constitution, oh, the state legislature, they change the voting rules in a way that was unconstitutional. >> because they let people vote with covid. >> this u.s. supreme court last june in an opinion 6-3 written by john roberts said uh-uh, that's not unconstitutional. so every time they say that, they're lying. >> just to let the audience know what they mean, they're trying to say because states allowed people to vote absentee because there was a pandemic happening, they're claiming that made the election illegitimate. >> the one thing we all need to
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be pushing for and i think it's a hopeful sign, for the first time in a long time, this issue, the health of american democracy, is at the center of american politics. it isn't just democrats and progressives but in the polls, independents and many republicans care about what we care about, care about making sure our democracy is not overtaken, that it works. and we're now hearing the democrats talk about it. what's really important is they need to act on it. they need to make sure that voting rights legislation and everything else is a top priority and that they do everything they can including changing the filibuster rules to get it passed if they have the ability. that is the positive outcome out of all this. there's a democracy movement now that's deep and wide and diverse that can take on the election denier movement. that's the thing that gives me hope. >> the thing is, i'm going to give you the last word, congressman. i'm quite sure most americans do not want a king. they don't want donald trump to be president for life. there are some republicans who wouldn't mind that. there's been a lot of people
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just walking down the street and asking, yeah, we would take him as king. there are people who want it, they're a minority, but they want it. is the democratic house prepared to fight, i guess it's going to have to be until the last dog dies to make sure this election as the american people vote for it, so it goes? >> this is a freedom election, joy, and americans have to vote their freedoms. their freedom to vote, their freedom of body, their freedom of what they read, their freedom to breathe clean air, their financial freedom. as the professor pointed out, we have seen, i would say, a more aggressive posture to defend those freedoms and the third branch of government where democrats have been lousy at messaging on, we have never in the past talked about the importance of the supreme court just until recently, but through people like marc elias and democracy docket, the organization he runs, we have gone to the courts to press our case. and that's why i think in 2020 we were so successful, that we
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won in every single court where republicans challenged the results. and so that's going to be critically important as we go into november. >> i hope so because i still remember bush v. gore when the republicans have an outcome they want, they change some things. stare decisis becomes a whole lot less magical. scaring is caring, so we want people to be prepared for what could happen. congressman swalwell, michael waldman, thank you. next, an alabama court ruling identifying embryos as children is generating fear and confusion for ivf families and for republican politicians. "the reidout" continues after this. i work hard, and i want my money to work hard too. so, i use my freedom unlimited card. earning on my favorite soup. aaaaaah. got it. earning on that éclair. don't touch it, don't touch it yet.
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republicans right now are struggling to get their positions straight on ivf after the alabama supreme court ruled that frozen embryos should be considered children. and those who destroy them can be held liable for wrongful death. this ruling is just the latest post roe reality that has caused mass outrage and fear across the country. and republicans are starting to realize that, you know, maybe forcing women to live in a christian nationalist hellscape isn't particularly good for their politics. alabama senator tommy tuberville who is not the brightest senator, when asked about this yesterday went from the ruling is good to wait, no, the ruling is bad, to i don't know how i feel over the course of three
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minutes. >> do you have a reaction to the alabama supreme court ruling on the fact that embryos are children? >> yeah, i was all for it. we need to have more kids. we need to have an opportunity to do that. i thought this was the right thing to do. >> ivf is used to have more children wrrg right now, services are paused in clinics. aren't you concerned this could impact people who are trying to have kids? >> well, that's for another conversation. >> what do you say to the women in alabama who no longer have access to ivf or will not as a result of this? what do you say to them? >> well, that's a hard one. it really is. really hard. because again, you want people to have that opportunity. and that's what i was telling her. we need more kids. you know, i would have to look at the entire bill and how it's written. i have not seen it. >> but here's the thing. this is a consequence of republicans' own actions. republicans championed getting rid of roe for years.
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they wanted this reality. they just didn't want the political consequences that come with it. don't let them fool you when they try to back away from it because there are far right lawmakers at the state and federal level who want this policy everywhere, not just in alabama. joining me is amanda, the lead plaintiff in the texas abortion lawsuit and michelle goldberg, msnbc political analyst. i'm going it turn to my journalist friend, michelle, and ask if you understand who the we is and who is the entity who needs more kids? >> i think there is a great deal of concern on the right about falling birth rates among some very specific populations. and this is true globally. and it's interesting to kind of hear him say that in the context of talking about the end of roe v. wade, because -- >> which populations? who is the we? >> right. well, i think -- i think this is obviously he's talking about
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white people, although i have a feeling if you confronted him on it and he wasn't stumbling too much, he would say something like america. >> okay, but they also need more kids, but when immigrant kids come, we don't have space and don't need more kids. let me go to you, amanda. you are in this situation of ivf, using ivf really as a result of what was done to you physically by the inability to have an abortion, to have normal health care. this placed you in a position of needing ivf. what do you do now with the prospect that maybe texas could follow alabama and make it very difficult for you to use ivf? >> well, you're exactly right. and the irony is not lost on me that the same people who support the bill and the laws and the bans that put my life at risk because i couldn't get an abortion when i needed one to save my life are now in the same camp of the folks who are saying that i shouldn't have the choice
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to use ivf and i shouldn't have the ability to make decisions over how and when i create a family. and the fear that is similar law or ruling or bill will come into effect in texas is such and it's so terrifying that my husband and i signed the paperwork today to get our embryos out of the state because i'm so terrified of what will happen if we are under the same situation that those poor folks in alabama are in. >> and so, i mean, because the idea for you in using ivf, do you consider those embryos to already be living children? >> no. i hope that one day they will become children, but with laws like this and rulings like this that are being passed, we might never even know because they're going to take away the opportunity for me to
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potentially implant them. >> michelle, let me just give you a few examples. these are recently backed bills that make the same argument as alabama. 125 house republicans including speaker mike johnson, they have cosponsored something called the life at conception act which states the term human being includes all stages of life, including the moment of fertilization, cloning, or other moment that a human species comes into being. the chair of the nrsc cospontaneousered a bill in 2021 that claimed homo sapiens have full protections of the 14th amendment. they're for it, they want to make it illegal everywhere? >> i don't know if they actually do. i don't know if they want to make ivf illegal so much as they don't want to deal with the actual consequences of their ideology and its consequences. you see them rushing now to distance themselves from something that was totally
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predictable and people who care about reproductive health have been screaming about for years. that personhood impacts abortion, it also impacts fertility treatment and it impacts contraception. everything people warned about, about a post-roe america, that was considered hysterical beforehand, we're seeing it all come to pass. and so what you see them doing now in alabama, they're talking about changing the definition of personhood, not to conception but begins at implantation. it shows you how cynical it is, and nobody -- there are vanishingly few people who actually believe an embryo is a human. >> let's just be clear. you can't take a baby and freeze it. the baby would die. the fact you can freeze it means it's not alive. >> all these people, if they're in a burning building and they can save one baby or 10,000 embryos. nobody really believes these are equivalent things. >> i'm not sure because there are republicans who talked about
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abortion and think pregnancy happens in the stomach where a baby would be digested. and they have legitimately said in the stomach. they don't seem to understand the human body. >> you can see with tommy tuberville, he has really not thought about it. i would assume he knows in the acstract how babies are made, but the actual details of it, which is so astonishing, that has not stopped them in the slightest from passing these sweeping laws with such profound consequences for people's lives and health. >> among women you know in texas, at what point does this become a voting issue? because we have been seeing in conservative states like texas and alabama, there not be a reaction to vote out people like tommy tuberville and these elected officials who are condemning women to health challenges, to maybe losing their lives. at what point is there going to be a reaction electorally in your view? >> it absolutely is already a voting issue, and something that
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i think a lot of people don't know is it's not just our senators and our local elected officials. it's also our supreme court justices in texas. and had we had a very similar suit in texas, if and when we do have a very similar suit in texas, i think we would have almost an identical ruling. and our supreme court is elected. and as a matter of fact, three of them are up for re-election this year, so it already is a voting issue. and i hope that people realize that, because this is an issue that wins elections. we know that. and we need people to come out and we need people to vote on this. >> vote specifically on this, right. elections matter. a lot of these states have elected supreme courts, y'all. pay attention. vote accordingly, according to saving your own life and your own health. thank you both very much. still ahead, the biden administration announces hundreds of new sanctions targeting russians associated with the death of alexei navalny. while the maga crowd doesn't seem much interested in punishs putin. stay with us. putin.
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these sanctions come at the same time as the announcement of a series of new arrested and indictments targeting russian businessmen who helped russia evade sanctions. the doj has seized more than $700 million in assets and served more than $500 million to europe in support of ukraine's defense. defense that has stalled in the united states congress because the maga party has refused to do anything to fight putin's invasion of a free country. senator schumer and others were in ukraine meeting with president zelenskyy to assure ukrainians of continued u.s. support. meanwhile, republicans are busy celebrating autocracy and sexual assaulters. what they aren't doing is slamming russia. >> i really could care less about russia. i really could care less about putin. i honestly am not interested in that discussion. >> we're the one that forced this war because we kept forcing
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nato on ukraine. i hadn't voted for any money to go to ukraine because i know they can't win. you know, you hate that they have had 300,000 or 400,000 people killed, the russians also. you hate that we supported this. >> we shouldn't have any foreign aid to any other country without corresponding cuts to our own bloated federal budget. >> while republicans may not care about russia, maybe they should given a number of american citizens are currently detained there under false pretenses. the latest being a ballerina who was a dual russian american citizen and was arrested for treason because she gave a small donation in support of ukraine. they are alive, alexei navalny is not as lucky. his mother was finally granted access to her son's body, but she is being threatened by russian officials. they are demanding that she agree to a secret funeral before they release his body.
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her punishment if she does not agree, they will simply let her son's body rot. joining me is masha gessen, staff writer for the new yorker. it's good to see you. thank you for being here. let's start where i ended. this attempt to force a secret burial of alexei navalny, it's obvious why. they wouldn't want his funeral to become a cause celebre, but what do you make of this demand of his mom? >> two things going on, one is they are genuinely afraid of protests. and i think that wherever there was a public funeral of alexei navalny, even if it were to happen in the far north, i think there would be a huge outpouring of people's grief and protest, which is something that putin is irrationally afraid of. i say irrationally because it doesn't threaten his power, but he believes that it does. i think the other thing that is extremely likely is that they
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don't want the family to have access to the body because the body still has traces of whatever they used to kill him. most likely, another chemical weapon, which is something that we know was also used against navalny in august 2020 when he miraculously survived an assassination attempt. >> what is sort of remarkable is that after this seemingly endless war in ukraine, that it felt for a while it was depleting russia. they can't defeat ukraine. ukraine's spirit is too strong and they're too unwilling to be absorbed, yet putin seems revived. he seems quite at peace. he doesn't steam be destabilized at all. am i reading that wrong? he seems to be laughing off the sanctions and everything else and the losses. >> you're absolutely right. and i don't know that we can say with certainty, in fact, i know we can't say with certainty that russia can't defeat ukraine. unfortunately, russia could
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defeat ukraine. ukraine is running out of people. people who can fight. ukraine is running out of ammunition. ukraine has run out of aid. and part of the blame for that is lies squarely with the biden administration, with the united states, and i say with the biden administration because before republicans in congress had the numbers to defeat aid packages, the aid was constantly insufficient. there was this buzz word, we're trying to avoid escalation. basically what that meant was that for the first year and a bit, before we had a republican house, the united states was giving ukraine insufficient aid and watching as more and more ukrainians died when there was a window of opportunity for ukraine to get the upper hand in that war. >> and what happens now? do the sanctions make any difference? $500 million in new sanctions, does it make any difference at this stage?
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>> you know, i don't even know at this point what the theory of change is behind the sanctions. for many, many years, u.s. policy was that sanctions would be imposed gradually so that putin would understand that the united states was serious and would back down. another theory of change was that it would imizerate russians so much that they would rebel against putin. both of those theories are crazy. they're wrong. this isn't going to happen. putin is not going to back down. and russians are not going to rebel. people are too busy struggling to survive to bring down their government. we know this. we have watched russia and we have watched politics and watched people for long enough. so what is the point of sanctions into show that the united states is doing something? but it's really acting like a crazy person who keeps trying to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results. the result is going to be the same.
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putin does feel emboldened. russia has been extremely adept at finding ways around sanctions, including finding ways to import military technology through third countries and using it in its own production of drones, which are making all the difference. and disadvantaging ukraine at the front lines. >> it is a sad situation. a terrifying situation, and one would hope that alexei navalny's death is not in vain. let's just hope and pray that something changes. it's terrible stuff. i appreciate you always the opportunity to talk with you, masha gessen. thank you very much. up next, looking ahead to tomorrow's potentially pivotal republican primary in nikki haley's home state of south carolina. and much more with my political panel.
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incoherent and low energy with trump slurring his words and sounding confused, just odd. it comes as south carolina's republican primary is set to take place tomorrow, and by all indications the aforementioned incoherent person will walk away with the 50 delegates in the winner take all state, which is also the home turf of former governor nikki haley. joining me is dean obeidallah and susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. dean, if joe biden sounded like that, there would be a one-week news cycle on him sounding like he wasn't okay. >> this, everyone should see this. he also said things like they're coming over the border. then he said on the snake hill. snake, rattlesnake. word association. you're watching the work of someone grappling with reality. >> the brain don't work good. >> that's why his donations are drying up, because while the maga base loves it, look, in the third quarter of last year, he
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raised $25 million. last quarter he raised $19 million. he shouldn't be going down closer to the election day. only a few hundred people in his rally in michigan over the weekend. he's not as strong as he was mentally, physically, or politically. all the polling tells us it's closer. i think donald trump is in big trouble. >> and yet, he's going to walk away with it in south carolina. why? >> because he's been invested with -- he has worked the grassroots of the republican party since he was elected president. before he was even sworn in, he met with state party leadership. he flew them down to mar-a-lago. wined and dined them. those folks put only maga people in their state parties. so that's what's been developing. and that's how come things don't get done, because if you don't have the grassroots behind you, you can't come up from behind if you're nikki haley. >> i experienced this when i covered the flag coming down in
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south carolina. the good old boys in south carolina never really likes nikki haley, right? >> she beat them. >> yeah. she had issues with the good old boys. >> if you really want to understand south carolina, you have to look at lindsey graham. early on, lindsey graham was not a fan of trump, but when he started seeing his primary numbers tanking is when everything turned around. guess what, his primary numbers, he went from down 20 to up 20. >> on the other side, biden. if trump has a problem with his brain maybe not working so good, biden has a problem in michigan. let me show you, the great yasmin vossoughian, she did a roundtable with young voters. here's the first part of it, and this is raise your hand if you voted for who is undecided in the general election? >> let me play one more clip. this is where it got even more problematic. here they are talking about biden's path forward.
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here is to voters. >> is there a pathway for it with you for biden? >> absolutely not. you cannot keep killing people with our money and just keep thinking way or stupid enough to elect you again. because we forget. this as an insult to me. >> for you, biden has a pathway forward? >> what does that look like? >> colin for a permanent, immediate she's far. three straightforward simple answer for the biden administration's push for a cease-fire, stop aiding israel in their war crimes, and i'll guarantee you there will be enough people willing to deal with it and vote for him. >> michigan is next week. how problematic as michigan for biden? >> we'll find out tuesday. how many people are unconnected in that way rashida tlaib the
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congressman from there once people to. when i speak to young muslim americans, the world by trial -- but trail is a strong emotion. what they mean by that is we worked to elect. utley knocked on doors, made calls for you. now you turn your back on us -- papal in our family, people we know are began killed in gaza with our armaments. it is textbook war crimes. biden will not criticize netanyahu, will not put any conditions on military aid, despite saying a group -- ten times more children have died in gaza in three months then ukraine in two years. that's not because putin doesn't have that military or moment to slot more children. putin hasn't done what netanyahu has done and gaza. this is an issue. there is a path -- that one young man to the right, there is a chance. >> there has been a change and write direct definitely from the white house.
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jay papal felt like it's enough to change the rhetoric or condemn settlements, that kind of thing? >> once we get as a's fire, if you rebuild gaza, champion a palestinian state -- >> almost needs to solve the intractable middle east problem -- and get back in good graces. let's talk more about -- big settlement today. another when letitia james. he has been found hate diverted millions of dollars away from the nra to live a luxurious life.
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folks, you have made it to the end of another week. it is time to play our favorite game. back with me dean obeidallah and susan del percio. who won the week? >> wisconsinites, because
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governor a force was able to sign new maps into law. legislative district. he didn't just -- he wasn't crazy republicans. there were a fear outlines. >> democracy won. good choice. dean obeidallah, who won the week? >> i would pick you because your book -- [laughter] i'm going to go with someone who could win it every week. beyonci. the first black woman to top that country charts -- we are not playing, you've got to play. number one first time in the history of the country music charts ever a black woman number one. >> the thing that was so hilarious about it was john schneider from the groups of hazard, tried to mainstream the confederate flag, back in the day -- he's from new york, beyonci's from texas. she's more contrite music venue. okay, my choice is -- roll the tape.
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>> if he does not have funds to pay off that judgment, wait will seek judgment enforcement mechanisms in court. and we'll ask the judge to seize his assets. someone once told me, if you want something done, give it to a woman. >> letitia james, that's what i'm colin. her because letitia james, she said run may my money, donald. give me that money. and if you don't give me that money, give me your properties. women, black women, black women are taken trump down. i love the fact she's essentially saying i'm going to enforce accountability on this man, who's not been held accountable his whole life. ever. she said -- >> take his buildings. 40 wall street. trump tower. >> take his buildings, take them all. dean obeidallah, sus

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