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good evening, and welcome to politics nation. tonight's leaned, to the bottom. race to the bottom. ♪ ♪ ♪ as expected, donald trump extended his winning streak in the republican primaries last night in south carolina. but as he closes in on the gop's coronation, the former president is revealing more about his state of mind as he contemplates a second term as president, promising more vengeance and retribution to his enemies at a major meeting of conservatives. and the night before, saying his strongest appeal to black voters is a shared cultural comfort with criminality as he faces down four indictments, 91 felony charges. the racist remarks were met

with thunderous applause from a gathering of black conservatives. tonight, i'll talk to the author of a new bestselling book on black republicans about how the gop went from the party of lincoln to the cult of trump. meanwhile, the next primary contest is just two days away in the swing state of michigan, where president biden is trying to mend fences with muslim and arab voters upset over his middle east policy. and democrats are hoping to hang alabama's ruling on ivf squarely around donald trump's neck. all of that tonight on politicsnation. joining me now is congresswoman debbie dingell, thank you for being with us tonight ahead of michigan's primary, which is next tuesday. we will get to that shortly.

but first, i must ask you. what did you take away from south carolina's gop primary in which donald trump racked up another win last night? and especially that exit polling finding republican primary voters not just are firmly behind trump as the candidate to defeat president biden, but two thirds of them still don't believe that biden is legitimately our president. >> reverend, first of all, it's always good to be with you. thank you for having me. and quite frankly, what i saw in south carolina last night continues to worry me and to reinforce my concern that democracy is at stake in this next election. a lot of people are angry. i fear that former president trump puts us against each other. he tries to divide us. he doesn't try to unite us. we need to remember these famous where it's. united we stand, divided we

fall. he plays to the worst in people. and i hope that what people understand is at stake is the future of our country. and that we're able to talk to many of those voters who did vote that way. we need to get into the union halls, and we need to talk about what former president trump says but hasn't delivered on, and what president biden has delivered on. >> i do have to ask for your reaction to what trump said at the black conservative form in south carolina, ahead of its gop primary. let's play this clip. >> i got indicted for nothing. for something that is nothing. they were doing it because it's election interference. and then i got indicted the second time, and a third time, and a fourth time. and a lot of people said, that that's why the black people like me. because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. and they actually viewed me as

i'm being discriminated against. it's been pretty amazing. >> now, congresswoman, i do not believe for a second that these comments from trump are him trying to ingratiate himself with black voters. he never, in new york, stood up for blacks who were treated wrong. in fact, he called for the death penalty of some blacks who ended up being innocent. and he still won't take it back. but i really think that he's playing to the worst assumptions about black people held by some white conservatives, saying that were criminal by nature, and that we are somehow turned on by mugshots because that's who we are. how do you expect those comments to play with the voters in michigan? black and white, left and right, ahead of tuesday's primaries in your state? >> so, reverend, i was offended by those remarks. i want to start their. and -- for a long time. and i do think -- first of all,

this man has 91 indictments. you don't get 90 in one indictment charges against you if there isn't something there. we do have a problem. i didn't understand it growing up. i've spent a lot more time in this community, in these communities, where we do have to worry about why people are stopped. and at the same time, i think everybody wants to be safe. but law enforcement is taking us -- this is a tough issue that we've spoken about. donald trump placed to the western. this is just another example of him trying to divide us. i found this really offensive. he's taking an issue that has very serious consequences, that we all need to be dealing with, and trying to put progress that we've made -- taking it backwards. and no, i don't think he had any good intentions with it. and i worry about michigan, in

the sense that we do have to encourage everybody -- there are many communities i'm concerned about. i'm not worried about tuesday. people vote, they don't. this is why we needed an early primary in the state. we're gonna talk about issues that matter in november. but we have to turn out voters in november. and it's one group of people that we have to turn out, but we have to turn them out. the young voters, we have to turn out the young americans, we have to turn out women and the african-american community. >> certainly, you know, congresswoman, i spent decades, most of my life, fighting against criminal justice that was unfair to blacks and others. and this, clearly, donald trump, his mugshot was for trying to, in many ways, change an election. it's election interference. people that i have been met by had a mugshot for trying to get the right to vote. he is denying that right.

that's what he's being tried for. it's an insult to anyone that ever fought for voting rights. and let's not forget he appointed three judges that voted with two other conservatives to take section two down from the voting rights act. it is absolutely offensive. but speaking of michigan primaries where you were, india last part of your statement, on the democratic side, we'll be watching president biden showing -- and former congressman beto o'rourke came out friday urging democrats in the state to vote on committed as a message to the president over his handling of the israel- hamas war. joining others including congresswoman from michigan rashida tlaib. what are your thoughts on this on committed campaign? >> so, i have a very different perspective than many do. i've worked 30 years to have a state that represents -- trying

to bring about change as part of the early primary system. iowa and new hampshire do not represent the diversity of this country. and we are talking about issues now that are going to matter in november. and i'd much rather be talking about them in february, and getting the presidents attention, and having him understand the need to talk about these issues than in october 15th. so i come at it from that perspective. we'll have to see -- what i fear, and what i feared does not go into november, is having talked to a lot of people, people are saying they're just gonna stay home, they're not gonna vote this year. that's not okay either. i think the listen to michigan campaign is trying to tell the president, make -- really worried about the humanitarian situation in gaza. i could go on about it. and we've got to find a solution that brings a cease

fire. -- temporary cease-fire now, and i will say that his white house has conversations now, ongoing with the senior leadership of this community that i think are very, very important and critical. >> the alabama supreme court ruling that forced hospitals to pause ivf procedures has left republicans scrambling to take positions on the issue. donald trump just came out in support of ivf. but he also takes credit for overturning roe v. wade, which set the stage for what we are seeing in alabama, with democrats looking to use the abortion issue to drive turnout in november. how can they make sure he doesn't get away with that? >> we have to be very clear. i'm one of those women that desperately wanted to get pregnant and could not. and no one can understand how that feels, or what you're going through. and it is a former president

trump's supreme court that overturned roe v. wade. in my state, women thought that they protected their personal health care decisions on the ballot two years ago. and they don't understand that if we reelect this man, there are -- conversations better between them, their doctor, and their fate, if they want it, and their family, if they wanted. but the federal government does not belong in making that decision. and secondly, these republicans who will not stand for the right for women to make our own health care decisions are racing to say they support ivf because they know how emotional it is for women like me. and it's a sham when they say it, because they are not letting a woman make her other personal health care decisions. these are tough, hard decisions sometimes. but they are not where the federal government or a state government belong. it's a woman's decision. she has a right to make her own women's health care decisions.

>> thank, you congresswoman dingell, for being with us tonight. let's turn out to tonight's political panel. rick tyler, a republican strategist, and daniel moodie, host of woke af daily podcast. we are, on the heels of donald trump's south carolina primary when, a growing number of his aides and allies want him to pivot from talking about his personal grievances, and start targeting president biden and unifying the republican party, as he's there likely nominee heading into the general election. we've seen trump get similar advice before. do you think there's any chance he can stay on message? >> you know as well as i do, rev, no. he can't stay on message. it's all about him. it's always been about him. and he is, by all accounts, incumbent for the republicans.

that's why it's very difficult to dislodge him. we haven't had a president who lost his seat and then run again for 100 years. and so, they do see him as the incumbent. which is why he's getting these high numbers. but he's one of the weakest incumbents ever. nikki haley took 40% of the republican vote in south carolina, and i'll just note that biden took 96% of the democratic vote. so he is a very weak candidate, because 40% of republicans voted for someone else, or wanted someone else. he has no capability of bringing those people back into the fold. it's not in his nature, he won't do it, it's a political skill that but good politicians have, which is after they've won, they need to bring in the people they defeated. and donald trump is not the one to do that. >> danielle, the focus now shifts to michigan's primary on tuesday. donald trump and president

biden are expected to win their races. but we could learn a lot from how they come out on top. trump will once again have to be convincingly -- while biden may face a rebuke from voters who choose to vote on committed. what could the results of tuesday's election tell us about how the state may lean in november? >> i mean, i think it's important for the biden campaign to pay attention to the people of michigan, right? who are saying that they want a cease-fire, they want humanitarian aid to enter into gaza, and they don't want their tax dollars to be funding what they're seeing play out on social media every single day. so it is a very large population of muslim americans. but on top of that, we've seen several articles come out in ads by the black church as well, calling for a cease-fire. so i think that this is gonna be very indicative and an ally

for this campaign to understand that it isn't just domestic issues that people are paying attention to in this election. they are also holding to account how we are dealing with the israel situation. >> rick, nikki haley says she staying in the race through super tuesday. as she looks ahead, what should her message be? >> well, she should stay in the race. because there's a large number of republicans who are dissatisfied with donald trump being the nominee. and as long as she has enough money to keep going forward and enough support, she should stay in the race as the alternative. if i might just say, on the michigan -- i think it is incumbent on every freedom loving muslim to call for hamas, who is the root cause of the problem in gaza, to lay down their arms. not only should freedom loving muslims do that. biden should do, that the u.n. should do that. why is it done combined on the israelis, who were attacked, to lay down their arms?

-- the terrorist organization that committed all the atrocities in october. so i think biden could have a very strong message about that. but he hasn't done it. >> danya, let me ask this. lawmakers returned to washington this week. senate majority leader chuck schumer is out with a letter to colleagues tonight seeing republicans in the house need more time to work out a spending deal to avert the partial government shutdown on march the 1st. meanwhile, the house has yet to vote on the military aid packages for ukraine and israel, which passed the senate nearly two weeks ago. and in the senate, some republicans are demanding a trial of homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas on his february 14th has some peach mint charges. how do you expect this week to go? >> i expect us to see the same

circus in the house that we have been seeing, right? and what republicans in the house are doing with their inability to pass any type of legislation, right? with their inability to provide aid to ukraine, as we are seeing more deaths of soldiers in ukraine happen as a result of them not -- friend of the republican party. so i think we are seeing once again who the republican party is. they're not a party that believes in upholding democracy in fighting for democracy. and as it pertains to the larger bill, this is -- an less able to get the rapid republicans in that house in order. and we have yet to see that happen, we have. >> i'm out of time. but rick, do you think we're gonna see a shutdown? >> i think will avoid the

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this weekend's primary results out of south carolina make it clear that former president donald trump is on the path to win the republican nomination. the prospect of a second trump administration is becoming more real, and we don't have to wonder what it would be like. because trump and his allies are telling us exactly what to expect if we are listening to them carefully. for example, they've been telling us to overturn the

overturn of roe versus wade was just the beginning. the new york times reports trump has been talking in private about a 16-week abortion ban, though he denies it publicly. think tanks close to trump are hoping to push christian nationalism in a second trump term, targeting contraception, same sex marriage, and even divorce. they've told us they want to push our immigration system to the brink. president biden has pushed for a bipartisan compromise. the trump vision calls from mass deportations, migrant encampments, and military troops massed at the southern border. and trump has been telling us repeatedly that loyalty to him would be the only currency in a second term. our nato allies could see long- standing partnerships abandoned, while brutal dictators are embraced.

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welcome back to politicsnation. republicans across the country are scrambling to reassure voters they will protect in vitro fertilization after the alabama supreme court handed down a decision last week jeopardizing the procedure in that state, and perhaps beyond. after the ruling declared frozen embryos qualify as children. former president trump is urging state lawmakers to find

a solution to preserve ivf. democrats and biden administration officials argue trump created the problem in the first place. joining me now is alexis mcgill johnson, president and ceo of planned parenthood. thank you for joining me today, alexis. let me go right ahead. vice president kamala harris made her first ever appearance on the biden campaign tiktok page thursday to talk about the alabama ruling. take a listen. >> well. okay. how did this happen? and i would say, ask who's to blame. and alliance to that question. when you look at the fact that the previous -- united states was clear in his intention to hand pick three supreme court justices -- overturned the protections of roe v. wade.

and he did it. and that's what got us to this point today. >> can you elaborate on how the trump administration's packing of the supreme court with extreme right wing conservatives has led to this situation where ivf is under threat in the state of alabama? >> well, absolutely, rev. look, the dobbs decision didn't just limit access to abortion. it made pregnancy outcomes more dangerous. and now, we're seeing these threats to ivf, and we said this was coming. -- together, what these decisions do is not only take away, deny the freedoms of us to decide whether and when to become parents. they also are announcing how we become parents. right? you follow their logic, right? they have inserted themselves in the private medical decisions related to reproductive health care like abortion. why wouldn't they be able to do the same with ivf?

reproductive health care is all of it. so where does the boundary stop? contraception, emergency contraception, pregnancy, miscarriage, ivf, and abortion. they have always forecast they are coming for all of these things. we shouldn't be surprised that this judge who relied a lot on his own christian beliefs really spoke very clearly about what the true intent is here with ivf. >> trump's own favored -- kellyanne conway shows polls -- including 78% of abortion opponents, and 83% of evangelicals. republicans in alabama are trying to come up with a legislative fix for this ruling as we speak. but the question is, can we trust them to protect reproductive rights? the republican track record says -- they will continue to

push for more restrictions. >> i think that's absolutely right. look, this is a political response because they're losing politically at every turn, when americans have had the opportunity to vote on reproductive freedom, we've won. because people, it turns out, do not like their rights and fundamental freedoms being taken away. so they are trying to find a legislative efforts and political efforts to really cover up what the true substance of their values says, and the implication of that on policy. i think they thought they would be able to continue controlling their base. they would be able to continue controlling their constituencies by delivering them these justices and judges that are completely hostile to reproductive freedom. and what we're seeing now is that the bases controlling them, and they're falling even further out of lockstep. i want to remind you also, rev, this isn't just the three supreme court justices that trump appointed to the supreme

court. right? this is also the federal judiciary that is also filled with many judges, including judge sarah pitlick, in missouri, the federal district court judge who said expressly during her, you know, in her own writings, that she did not believe -- believe in ivf or surrogacy. she thought it was demeaning to women. -- they're scrambling because they know that politically, they cannot win. >> now, we mentioned our previous segment, the gotcha segment idea, that trump's allies are hoping to push a christian nationalist agenda in a second term, should they get one. going after not only abortion -- contraception, same sex marriage, and even to voiceless. how concerned should voters be about this? >> i think we should be very

concerned,. you and i are both christian. i think we should be concerned as christians. because we understand the fundamental difference between being a christian and being a christian nationalist. we can love our faith, we can love the lloyd, and we can also recognize that our faith should not be used to impose our beliefs on everyone by governmental overreach, by infiltrating into our private medical decisions. and so, their willingness to rely -- i can, if you just read the judge's opinion in alabama, we should be alarmed by the fact that -- belief structure that is higher than that. they are really going counter to the fact that the constitution of these united states was designed explicitly to separate church and state. and so, i think, as we mentioned, reproductive freedom, no fault disorder, all of these things that are gonna

be not about the values, even, really, they're about further building up power and control. that should really be terrifying for any of us who have come through that previous administration. >> and they're clear -- when they want to go buy the bible, they mean they want to go by their interpretation of the bible. all christians should not relax on that, because their interpretation of the bible is much different than mine, and i preached this morning and bethany baptist church, and you are a christian. but let me go to this. the chief justice in the ivf alabama supreme court decision eroded concurrent opinion defending his position heavily citing from christians scripture and theology, as i was referring to. he has also openly criticized other judges for not considering religion in their rulings, and has expressed

support for the theory known as the seven mountain mandate, which calls for conservative christians to run the government and broadly influenced american life. republicans have actively been planning similarly minded justices throughout the country, potentially affecting cases around reproductive freedoms for decades in the future. what -- account of this? >> we're already seeing, right? we know it doesn't end in alabama. just in 2024 alone, we've seen 38 bills. using so-called personhood language that have been proposed -- bills that could allow similar wrongful death claims similar to the law used in the alabama decision. and so, the counter to that, right? is the counter to what we will be talking about all year long, right? which is about how we need to

vote these people out. we cannot accept living in a world where our fundamental freedoms are continued to be chipped away by, you know, religious zealots who care nothing about, you know, the families and the communities that they are setting loss for. they care nothing for -- i think about those parents in alabama right now, right? he spent tens of thousands of dollars. they've gone through, you know, physiological challenges, emotional challenges, financial challenges, just for the right to become -- extend their family. and that can just be taken away by a christian nationalist judge. so we have to kind of get those stories out and tell people what's at stake so they understand going into 24 all of this is on the line. >> and make it clear we're not anti-christian. we are anti-any religion dominating what is legally fair

to everyone. and clearly, those that interpret scripture their way, i can hear them now saying to us, servant, obey or master. that's in the bible to, if you interpret it their way, that could be very dangerous. alexis mcgill johnson, president of planned parenthood, thank you for being with us. just ahead, despite its push to rollback civil rights on nearly every front, black conservatives have struck by the republican party. i'm talking with the author of a new book exploring why after the break. exploring why after the break. you wayfair'd your whole bathroom?! even the vanity - when i wayfair, i wayfair ya know? oh i know. this is nice. another wayfair day! you know it. new couch in just two days the wayfair word is out. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ l've always wanted to do that. ava: i was just feeling sick.

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welcome back to politicsnation. donald trump's when last night's gop primary in south carolina -- tim scott is poised to play a key role in trump's likely nomination and general election pitch to black voters. but scott is not the only high- profile black republican to embrace trump. despite his laundry list of racist statements over the last nine years, with some of the most deplorable comments having come out of this weekend's black conservative form in south carolina. and a new book examines how and why some black conservatives continue to align themselves with the republican party that is tilted further to the right

on everything, racial progress included. joining me now is clay cain, author of the grift. the downward spiral of black republicans from the party of lincoln to the cult of trump. it's nice to finally have you on the show. congratulations on the grift becoming a new york times bestseller. i make it a point not to question the sincerity of black republicans, and how they identify politically. that's the right is american voters. and i knew some black republicans. i knew arthur fletcher, who is the author of affirmative action under nixon, who was nothing like these people now. but certain black conservatives in the trump era have tested the limits of my understanding. like the ones who clapped for this at this weekend's conference in south carolina. take a listen. >> the black people are so much

on my side now because they see what's happening to me happens to them. my mugshot, we've all seen the mugshot, and you know who embraced it more than anybody else? the black population. it's incredible. you see, black people walking around with my mugshot. i'm being indicted for you, the black population. >> he's being indicted for us, by trying to undermine black voters in georgia. that's one of the indictments. clay, how do black republicans here that and still -- for this man, unless it's exactly what you call in your book? a grift? >> you know, really, it's heartbreaking. the original black republicans, they are rolling in their graves. the original black republicans where the first progressives in this country. today is the anniversary of -- the first black man in the united states senate being seated. he was a black republican.

what we see now, it has evolved into anything for access to power. it is devolved into hurting and shame in your own community with the hope that you'll get a congressional seat. you'll get funded by a conservative organization. and you bring up arthur fletcher, who i highlight in my book. the author of the affirmative action. not only would after fletcher be mortified, but so would colin powell. so with senator edward brook. what's most shameful about those words from trump, is that there weren't black conservatives in that room who didn't walk out. he said, this is disgusting. because it shows you what trump not only thinks about black voters, but about black conservatives. it's heartbreaking, it's shameful, and if they knew anything about black conservatives or black republicans, they would immediately denounce this hateful, despicable, a historical comments. but we have to also call out -- they enable him. the lies. you have senator tim scott, he

said that trump gave more money to hbcus than any other president. that's a lie. at that very conference, someone said trump got 20% of the black vote. that's a lie. but where you find a lie, you often finn's find a check. >> since his own failed 2020 campaign, tim scott, who you just mentioned, he's played up his relationship with donald trump. he ran against him, but since it failed, he's now played up this great relationship endorsing trump over nikki haley, despite her appointing scott to the senate heat seat he's in. and then that was the senators i love you moment with trump after he won new hampshire gop primary. it seems that paid off, as top has grown that he's on the list for trump's vp. your thoughts on scott becoming trump resident black guy? >> resident black guy. good way to put it.

my thoughts, i've said it before, that trump -- that tim scott would show the loyalty that trump pence didn't. he's campaigning better for it trump than he did in his own run for our president. and here's what bothers me, reverend sharpton. he provides a particular racial cover. as you know, reverend, he wasn't always like this. he is really involved, devolved, i should say, over the years. this is somebody who went down to the anniversary of bloody sunday, where john lewis had a skull fractured, yet he votes against the voting right act. this is somebody who guided the george floyd policing act, who denies there is some stomach racism. he's not trying to appeal to black voters. he's trying to appeal to some, not all, white conservative voters, you make someone like tim scott feel better about the southern strategy tactics. and i think the biggest proof is how credible black

republicans, like colin powell, like i said, michael steele, will hurd, another great example in texas -- they've been pushed out of the party to make room for these grifters, or people who've turned to grifters, as i laid out in the book. >> listen to this, clay. where from trump at that black gop form this weekend. best way for people to understand him is let him speak. listen to this. >> joe biden really has proven to be a very nasty and vicious racist. he's been a racist. whether you like it or don't like it, i happen not to like it. most of the people in this room happened to not like it. and if somebody does like it, they're not supposed to be here. biden spent years piling around with notorious segregationists. >> notorious segregationists. biden was the vice president to the only black president we've had so far, and biden has said the crime bill he was part of

with clinton did go too far, and has fought -- i was in the room when obama was president, fought to do things around policing and other things. trump has been found to discriminate in housing by the justice department himself. not talking about who he hung out with, i'm talking about him. the biden campaign tim has dignified trump's claims here with an official response. but we know they're troubled by polling showing the president to have lost ground with some black voters, particularly black men. he's not expected that trump would do better. but even a slight boost in his 2020 numbers shun -- large black populations like michigan. how does the president prevent that with eight months left to go? >> reverend sharpton, i think he has to do better in messaging. you have to speak directly to black communities.

speak to black leaders like yourself. but i want to also say, folks might think i'm being too optimistic here, but i have more faith and black voters than that. trump is showing us exactly who he is. he got less of a share of the blackmail vote in 2020 than he did in 2016. i'm on the radio three hours a day, five days a week, talking to black voters every single day, and what i'm hearing is the opposite of what the polls are out there. i can recall this time, during obama's presidency, in his first term, they said, obama's bombing with the black vote. i'm not saying there isn't work to be done, but i think it's a comfortable narrative that it can result in some accidental -- maybe not even accidental. voter suppression, or voter suppression within media. so i hope -- i want to see more outreach, but i feel like black voters are informed and they see exactly who he is. and i will tell you this. if tim scott does come the vice presidential pick, that will incentivize black voters the

way black voters were incentivized in georgia with herschel walker. >> i think i'm on radio as well five days a week -- i don't hear from black voters. author klay cain, again, congratulations on the book, hitting the bestsellers left. thanks for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. final thoughts. stay with us. on 's updated covid-19 shot too. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand.

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i repeat the insult of saying that black voters would, in some way, be enticed to support him because he had a mugshot, like all of us are criminals, or to say that because he has four indictments, one of which, or really two of which, both georgia and the federal -- trying to rob outings, when we had to fight, people were bloodied, beaten and killed -- and one person, one of his supporters, got on fox news saying blacks love him because of the -- so let me get this right. he didn't support george floyd justice and policing act, but he did -- was supposed to go first sneakers and a mugshot? and those blacks that are standing there with him, have you no shame? that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at five pm eastern.

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