people to get into this space. people who have zero technical capability have the ability using generative ai and the user interface that they can engage in to create these deep fakes with relative ease. it's another reason there are so many more actors that are now involved, not just nation states, because of the use of this type of tool. so it's going to be a concern going forward. the u.s. populous needs to be aware, andrea. >> shawn henry, stay close. we're going to need you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." you can rewatch highlights from the show any time on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc

headquarters in new york city. the largest state on the calendar set to be the most revealing by par. how intraparty divisions tomorrow will tell us about the expected joe biden/donald trump match-up and the krks in their political armor. trump launches yet another delaying ak tick, trying to get that nearly half a billion dollar judgment against him overturned. in the meantime, the judgment itself just keeps getting bigger. the extra interest, roughly the price of a new porsche 911 every single day. experts call it a perfect storm of toxic politics and divisive rhetoric. russia is already trying to take advantage. we'll tell you about the latest attempts by vladimir putin and the kremlin to spread lies and tip the balance in the 2024 election. we start with the 2024 campaign shift to michigan. the first primary in a big swing

state where both of the deeply unpopular front-runners will get a firsthand look at the size and scope of the opposition inside their own parties. for donald trump, the problem is despite big wins in the first four contests, he's losing moderate republicans by huge margins. in south carolina, the a.p. found roughly 20% of gop primary voters are a hard no if he becomes the nominee. president biden's issues stem from his support for israel. the democratic opposition led by arab, muslim and young voters and fueling calls for a protest vote tomorrow. the number of democrats voting uncommitted as opposed to voting for biden will give us a good idea of just how badly the issue is hurting him. i've got let's to get to. we want to bring in garrett haake in washington, elise jordan is an msnbc political analyst. so garrett, donald trump has won every contest, and he's won them, as he would say, hugely.

so when we say there are warning signs, we're talking about largely for the general election. what can you tell us? >> bigly is the word i would use there. >> bigly. >> about to pivot from a period in which nothing matters in terms of stopping donald trump. his lead is so big with the base of the republican party, with registered republicans, that very little has mattered on the margins to a general election in which this will be decided by small margins in half a dozen states and everything will matter. the weaknesses we're seeing at the edges of donald trump's coalition include highly educated voters which he tends to lose to nikki haley with degrees. he tends to lose more liberal and moderate republicans. there is still such a thing. he does poorly with independents, better with them in iowa, worse in north carolina. these are not things that will

affect the nomination. they have to figure out how to compete around the suburbs of detroit, philadelphia, phoenix, the places where elections are won and lost and where mr. trump's coalition is not as strong as it used to be in aed mo rat, competitive landscape as each of these gentlemen spend roughly a billion dollars. >> still you say, a billion dollars each blows my mind. elise, i want to read part of a "wall street journal" editorial. a fox news voter analysis found 59% of ms. haley's voters say they wouldn't vote for mr. trump if he is the gop nominee. the exit poll shows 36% of south carolina primary voters said a conviction in one of his criminal trials would make him unfit to be president even if most of those voters hold their noses and vote for mr. trump in a race against mr. biden. the question is how many stay

home, vote for a third party or go over to mr. biden? even a 10% defection could be decisive. remember last july nikki haley said, elise if trump was their nominee, she'd support him. how hard or soft do you think those numbers are? >> it's still really early, chris. what strikes me is the two major political parties, both electorates are dissatisfied with their nominee. there's hesitation on both sides really in terms of questioning the level of enthusiasm that a significant portion of that electorate might have for their chosen nominee. i still think it's early. there are definitely cracks and donald trump has a huge problem in the suburbs. if joe biden manages to keep that 5%, 6% of never trumpers, of independent leaning voters who shift over and continue to support him in 2022, he's got to

keep those people if he's going to keep the presidency. >> as we well know, garrett, donald trump never shows weakness, but team trump, do they see those cracks? if so, what are they doing or trying to get him to do to draw those voters back to his side? >> donald trump has a pretty astute campaign team around him this cycle, certainly the most professional operation he's had as a candidate. he also has functionally the entirety of the republican party who have decided to basically lock arms and go with him as their nominee in large part as they're going forward. he has been getting information and we've reported this from outside allies, even from folks on his payroll, that he needs to try to talk more about the issues that matter to voters and less about the issues that matter to him. whether that's going to happen or not, it would be probably safe money to bet against it. donald trump has been getting advice like that since he first became a candidate back in 2015. he's never really fully done the

traditional pivot to the general election that we so often see candidates do. i'd be surprised to see him do it here. what you're more likely to see is donald trump to try to use and the other candidate as a magnet, he'll try to make joe biden as unpopular as he possibly can and hope that accrues to his benefit. donald trump has always been better at tearing other candidates down than he is at building himself up or changing the perception of him in a positive way. >> let me bring in ali vitali who is traveling with the haley campaign in grand rapids. haley said she raised a million dollars after the primary that she lost, of course. but she also lost the koch brothers, huge donors. outside of maybe michigan tomorrow, it's going to argably be very tough for her to win delegates. what's her campaign saying about the next phase of the campaign? >> reporter: chris, maybe it's

michigan tomorrow, maybe it's some super tuesday states they're looking at. maybe it's d.c., virginia, massachusetts. they're not detailing any states they can win. you'll hear me modulate my voice up and down because of the event behind me. the haley campaign is remarking on the departure of americans for prosperity saying they never provided financial support, so they weren't in a position of losing donors, instead hosting fundraisers over the next week and a half that will keep filling their war chest. this is a campaign wherever they get out, it's not going to be because of money. that's different from most of the campaigns we've seen this cycle. tim scott, ron desantis, all dropped out because of money problems. whenever haley drops out, it is not going to be because of that. instead, she's saying she wants to give voters an alternative

across the coming states. we'll see what happens on super tuesday, they are not making signs they're 100% staying in past that, too. >> interesting to watch. in the meantime, elise, california governor, gavin newsom, a democrat, of course, is certainly hoping nikki haley doesn't quit. take a listen. >> i don't know why democratic would want her out of the race. she's one of our better surrogates. she's defining the opposition to trump effectively. she's making points i'm applauding every day about his temperament, his capacity, his unravelling in realtime. i think she's been incredibly effective. i hope she stays in personally. >> is her voice, elise, as a republican, former governor, former trump cabinet member maybe more effective for a key part of the middle, more effective than potentially a democrat? >> i think nikki haley does joe biden huge political favors.

i agree with gavin newsom, she does chip away at trump's weaknesses and is providing that direct attack. just to second what ali said, nikki haley does not have a fund-raising problem. she's one of the strongest fund raising campaigns in politics. but there is a personal toll on the family. there's a lot that goes into consideration. so far she said she'll stay till super tuesday. who knows after that? for her there's incentive to stay in. there's the wildcard, something could happen and trump could be gone. it could happen any day or not. that's the black swan event of this election. she might want to stay in just in case. >> i want to bring newspaper nbc's kelly o'donnell who is covering the white house for us. kelly, look, the protest vote against biden is part of the concern over the way he's handled the israel-hamas war. there was a quinnipiac poll last

week that showed registered voters disapproving of it by a 2-1 margin. just how worried is team biden that this is going to be a problem all the way into november? >> well, a great concern is about where is this most pronounced. we're certainly seeing it in michigan. michigan is one of those critical midwest, great lakes region decisive states in the electoral map. when you consider there's a large population of arab americans who make their home in michigan, they are influenced as individual voters and a sense in the wider community of their concerns. so among the things that are of great awareness for the biden campaign is trying to speak to those voters, and they have the difficulty that the president's position is one where he supports israel. he wants to have humanitarian steps taken and has expressed concern about israel's conduct.

will that ever be enough to satisfy the questions in that community? that's part of what's playing out there. there's also a concern about how much does the white house show itself? there's been a more sudal approach with phone banks, with surrogates, low-key emphasis. they want to avoid use of the non-committal vote in michigan as a protest. certainly the more liberal side of the democratic party, there are voters there who want to use that as a way to send a message to the president and his campaign, and certainly the biden campaign wants to forestall that and continue to show that president biden is the clear and supported choice of democrats regardless of being an incumbent, but the choice they want going forward. so it is a challenge, and in michigan it is particularly a challenge just as in other parts of the country there may be certain sets of issues that jump above the midline to be

prominent and important in influencing how voters decide things in their given states. >> she brings up such a good point, elise. there are things we know are going to be important in november. the economy is going to be important. it's always important. arguably the border, which is why donald trump and joe biden are both going there on thursday. but there's often things that give campaigns auj nah because it's so unpredictable how they'll play out. israel-hamas being one of them. what's the likelihood that the real concern stays beyond michigan, states like michigan with a large arab american population? >> now the biden administration has to show that they're -- predominantly voted for democrats for the last 30 years. when you have a state that was

won in 2020 by about 10,000 votes for donald trump and in 2024 by about 154,000 votes for joe biden, that really matters, that sliver of muslim american and arab american voters who are incredibly upset and have this as their number one issue and they're dissatisfied with policy. it isn't enough for the biden administration to just give lip service saying we're really upset with netanyahu but we're going to keep sending millions in arms. that's not enough for this community. how is he going to thread the needle between satisfying his arab american and muslim voters and also his jewish voters who like his strong line and want him to continue forward? it's a very tough political balance to follow. >> elise jordan, kelly o'donnell, garrett haake and ali vitali, a real power panel, thank you all so much. appreciate it. major breaking news. former fbi informant alexander

smirnov who is accused of spreading false information about the bidens will stay behind bars pending trial. prosecutors raising serious concerns that if he was not remanded, he could have fled the country. the decision from los angeles judge otis wright overhauling a las vegas federal magistrate that allowed him to stay out on bail. in 60 second, former president trump appeals the landmark new york civil fraud judgment. what it could mean for the hundreds of millions the former president already owes. we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds

so what will it mean for the money he owes. donald trump is filing an appeal to that $355 billion judge encampment the landmark new york civil fraud case. now nearly half a billion with interest. trump wants the court to, quote, overturn this egregious fine and

take the necessary steps to secure the public faith in new york's legal system. let me bring in glenn kirschner, also with us lisa rubin who watched this whole trial unfold inside that manhattan courthouse. lisa, there was no indication in this that the former president has secured an appeal bond. what does it mean? the one question people have is they keep hearing this number go up and up and up. does this mean anything in that regard? >> no, it doesn't. in fact, by filing this notice of appeal, trump does not get a stay on enforcement of the judgment, nor do any of the other co-defendants for that matter, until they post that undertaking that can come in the form of the bond as you suggested or a person can pay up the entire judgment. here we're expecting something closer to the bond given the enormity of the judgment and the fact it keeps accruing about $114,000 a day in interest.

>> what do you make of this appeal, glenn? what does it say to you? >> it says absolutely nothing at the moment because lisa is right. the new york court system, chris, puts out a very helpful one-sentence explainer of these exact circumstances. here is what it says. it says the litigant -- in this case that's drum -- will receive an automatic stay. in other words will not have to pay the money judgment if he puts up monies or other assets or posts a bond sufficient to satisfy the judgment in the event the appeal is unsuccessful. he hasn't done that. he hasn't hinted at how he will have the assets to do that or if he will be able to find a bondsman, an insurance company, anybody who is willing to say, yeah, donald trump is good for it, for $155 million in the event he loses the appeal. who is going to vouch for donald trump in that regard?

this appeal means nothing. it means he has technically filed a notice of appeal. >> so does it suggest to you -- i mean no harm, no foul. does it suggest he doesn't have the money or the plan or the backing to get a bond to pay this and so he might as well appeal? i'm trying to figure out what the strategy is because it does keep going up every day, right, the amount that he owes? >> i don't know what the strategy is. there doesn't appear to be a strategy. the one thing i'm fairly confident of is that because donald trump said recently i believe in a deposition that he estimates he has about $400 million in liquid assets on hand, i'm quite confident that he doesn't have $400 million of liquid assets on hand because of the way he overinflates the value of everything. i think he is now struggling on

the financial front to find a way to secure this judgment, to secure this amount so his appeal can even proceed. his appeal can proceed, but he will be made to pay the money judgment while the appeal is pending or new york attorney general leticia james can put leans on property and gan niring wages if he has in. things will get very excited for donald trump very soon. >> so what does it buy him? he did, or at least his lawyers did in this filing, argue that judge arthur engoron committed errors of law and/or fact. you were in the courtroom, you saw it up close, listened carefully and reported on it for us. how difficult will it be to prove? >> i think it will be very difficult to prove, especially with a 92-page decision that shows how judge engoran reached decisions including credibility assessments of all of the

witnesses. chris, there were 40 witnesses over 43 trial days. a lot of people gave testimony and not just michael cohen as the trump lawyers would have you believe. there was a whole bunch of evidence that judge engoron said could fill the entire courtroom. he's tried to make that apparent through his ruling. i think the defendants will have some trouble overturning it. in terms of their strategy going forward, though, i think one of the things they're trying to do both in this case and the carroll case is try to figure out if they can reduce the judgments before they have to post an undertaking. that involves some sophisticated maneuvers with respect to appeals. but that's what i think they're trying to do first, trying to reduce that number before they have to post the bond for the reasons glenn said. he said he's worth $400 million liquid. >> i go back to the fact it's getting higher every day. let's say he could get it reduced, how quickly could that happen and how much money could he had to his bill in the meantime? >> in the carroll case he asked judge kaplan to give him an

indefinite stay to pursue post trial motions that would come before any appeal. in that application he's suggesting he doesn't have to post anything at all during the pendency of the post-trial motions. that's an opportunity to pause the clock, put up no money and try to get a reduction in that $83.3 million award in the carroll case. my guess is he will try something similar, although we haven't seen it yet, in this new york case as well. >> lisa rubin, glenn kirschner, thank you both so much. coming up, new nbc news reporting on the russian disinformation that's already spreading ahead of the 2024 election here. exactly what they're doing and the politician they're targeting. plus, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy speaking with nbc's richard engel. he joins us live from kyiv after the break. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chr jisansing reports" only on msnbc fashion moves fast. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) we get more control of production,

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we're back with nbc news exclusive reporting. russia's 2024 election interference campaign has already begun. former u.s. officials and cyber experts tell us moscow is using fake online profiles and bots to spread misinformation that damages president biden and undermines u.s. support for nato and ukraine. similar efforts are under way across europe targeting parliamentary elections this summer. leaders from many of those countries are in paris right now

for a ukraine summit, a display of unity as the war enters its third year. president zelenskyy meantime is rejecting the idea that the war has reached a stalemate, pleading for the u.s. and allies to provide weapons and ammo they need to continue their fight. nbc's richard engel got that interview, and he joins us now from kyiv. also with us, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser and msnbc political contributor. richard, as i said, zelenskyy made those comments to you. what else did he tell you about how in his mind the war is progressing and where it stands right now? >> reporter: well, i think he openly acknowledged that this is a difficult time, that russia is in the midst of a new counteroffensive that began in october which he expects to intensify over the next two months, that russia did this to capitalize on the fact that ukraine is running low on supplies right now, both weapons and ammunition, that aid is held

up by washington, held up by congress, particularly the house, and that russia sees this and is pushing, is using the leverage that it has, which is its greater numbers, greater military industrial base. he said that unless they get help soon, more ukrainians are going to lose their lives. he did not, however, believe that this war is hopeless. i think that is one of the things he wanted to stress. he thinks that ukraine can do this, they just need the weapons, need the supports, which is something he's been asking for the last two years. i asked him, do you think the u.s., given this level of support, given it's dolled out piecemeal, the fact that there are no aircrafts here, something that he and other ukrainians have been calling for since day one, does he really think the united states wants him to win the way he sees victory?

>> do you think the united states wants ukraine to win this war or do they just want you to weaken russia and contain russia? you think they want you to actually win? >> i hope so. i hope so. otherwise, how to trust people. it's so difficult to live without any trust. i hope it's not only words. >> reporter: so he hopes so, which is not the strongest vote of confidence right now. he said he is worried about the changing of politics in the united states. he's worried about the upcoming presidential elections. he's worried about former president donald trump pulling the plug on ukraine. so he thinks that this next year is going to be pivotal, and because of that, that the u.s.

needs to act now, especially since the ukrainians are facing a counteroffensive, this time by russian troops right now. >> richard engel, such an important interview right now. thank you so much. ben, so not the strongest vote of confidence for sure, right? can you really blame volodymyr zelenskyy who, as richard pointed out, has been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and now sees what must look and what is dysfunction in washington? >> no, i don't think you can blame him at all. bear in mind that we're not just talking about major new weapons systems. in the past there's been drama around will the u.s. provide tanks or longer-range rockets or f-16s. this is just about whether they can get the basic resupply of ammunition and artillery and small arms to just try to hold the front line where it already

is. russia has been able to generate a large industrial military complex to churn out that kind of material. they've also been able to turn to north korea as a reliable supplier of things like shells. the ukrainians are really suffering a deficit. the question in this war, as we enter the third year, is who has time on their side? right now in the absence of that u.s. support and the inability of europe to kind of make up for that support, it feels like time is more on putin's side, that he has more manpower because a bigger population and has more access to the arms that are relevant on the front line and is beginning to incrementbly take back territory. and that's a very difficult circumstance for ukraine to be in. >> so zelenskyy says he hopes to offer a peace plan to russia some time this spring. given everything you just said, is that a sign of weakness, or is it a sign of strength? >> i think right now the problem is, first of all, vladimir putin

knows that the u.s. presidential election is in november. if donald trump wins that election, it's quite likely that ukraine is kind of permanently cut off from u.s. support and assistance, and that the u.s. commitment to nato itself and those other eastern front line allies could weaken. there's not a ton of incentive for vladimir putin to make concessions in that negotiation when he feels like he has the upper hand both on the battlefield, but also in the politics of the united states and some european countries. so i think it's responsible to pursue diplomacy. i think there always should be a door open to diplomacy when you have the kind of loss of life we're seeing in ukraine, and of course there's loss of life on the russian side. before the election, it feels like everybody is going to be on a waiting game to see where our politics goes, first with the supplemental stuck in congress and the election in november. >> and also the disinformation campaign. i mentioned russia's

interference in the election here and frankly in parliamentary elections across europe. what do you think the lessons are, ben, from particular 2016 when the kremlin was able to spread misinformation on social media very effectively? >> the main lesson i take is if the kremlin doesn't invent a lot of these conspiracy theories and narratives that travel widely on social media platforms. what they do is look for what are already divisions in the united states, what are already conspiracy theories in the united states and they essentially go and pour gasoline on those fires. they use bots, troll armies to essentially amplify pro-trump anti-biden information or information that creates deep divisions in american societies particularly among voters that are more inclined to support joe biden. what i would be looking for is efforts to accelerate how that

information travels. what we saw russia doing in the past targeting key states, key demographics. i any they'll focus on current events, the war in gaza. those are the type of distractions. essentially they're taking advantage of the sickness that is already in our information ecosystem. the only other thing i'd say, though, at this time it's kind of existential for putin. he has every incentive to go all in. he's in the middle of a war that's taking tens of thousands of lives. he knows if trump wins the election, his capacity to prevail in that war goes up significantly because the u.s. is going to probably cut off the ukrainians. i don't know why there would be any guardrails or any constraints on what he might be able to do. that gets even more acute as we get closer to the election. does russia try to spread mis or disinformation on things like voting? do they try to get more involved in disrupting the election itself? that's the thing that i think

has concerned experts in the past and bears a lot of watching this time around. >> ben rhodes, always great to have you on the program. sweden today cleared its final hurdle to joining nato after hungary's parliament voted to approve the scandinavian country's bid to join the allies. sweden applied almost two years ago after russia's invasion of ukraine. hungary held it up, objecting to comments about swedish officials about the state of hungary's democracy. sweden will now become the 32nd nato member, breaking a position of military neutrality that goes back more than 200 years. one person will not be pleased. vladimir putin launched his war in ukraine in part to prevent nato's eastern expansion. coming up, president biden calls congressional tleeders to the white house. can he help avoid a government shutdown? we'll have the latest after the break. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc [coughing] copd hasn't been pretty.

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house of the united states house of representatives is hereby declared vacant. >> ali, just wow. >> reporter: yeah, i had an audible wow, too. yeah, that's us, witnessing history together there. it's really, really stunning. >> it was stunning. now, add to that the finger-pointing blame game has already begun between senate majority leader chuck schumer and johnson. smum her warrants the republican leader coming to the demands of the hard right wing of their party. johnson firing back accusing schumer of petty politics. joe biden bringing congress leaders to the white house and trying to find a path to a long illusive deal. nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting from washington, d.c. also with us jake sherman, co-founder of punchbowl news and

an msnbc political contributor. jake, i was struck by the punchy punchbowl headline today "welcome to another shutdown week." is this groundhog day, mccarthy 2.0? what's happening where you are? >> it is groundhog day, that's for sure. we've seen this many times. it's five months into the fiscal year, chris, and we don't have a funding deal for the remainder of the fiscal year. in that sense it's groundhog day. we don't know yet if it's mccarthy 2.0. we don't know yet whether conservatives will try to push out mike johnson for doing whatever he decides to do on government funding. let's take the 30,000-foot and zoom in. 30,000 feet, the house comes back wednesday, government shuts down friday at midnight. so there are effectively three days to get something done. i've never seen congress do anything with the divisions that we have now in three days. they will definitely have to work with democrats to get this

done. speaker mike johnson said on a conference call on friday night that he didn't score any big victories, policy victories in this funding bill, no home runs, no grand slams is how he put it. so i don't know what's going to happen here. and i think it's incredibly tenuous right now. the obviously thing for him to do is to pass a compromise bill which should be coming out -- it was supposed to come out last night. it should be coming out in the next day or so, a compromise bill to fund those four funding bills through the end of the year and to take that threat off the table. short of that, he can do a stopgap to extend funding for another couple of weeks. that has its own level of peril. the other option, two more options, oneier's funding bill which would result in 1% cuts for the rest of the year, and the other option is a shutdown in which we'll be here all

weekend. i had a source say to me, chris, i hope you don't have any plans for the weekend, meaning the house and the senate will probably be in wrestling with funding. >> bring your sleeping bag, jake. how much of this verbal back and forth brawl between johnson and schumer is a real warning sign? do they just not like each other or how much of it is playing to their respective bases? >> it's meaningless. they're working together behind the scenes to get these bills in order. the big problem is house republicans are insisting on policy riders, specific policy changes they want as part of these bills. these policy bills were in the republican versions of the bills in the house. unfortunately, what house republicans seem to always forget is they control the house, democrats control the senate and the white house. senate republicans are more attuned to reality than their house counterparts. house democrats, senate democrats, santa ana republicans in the white house generally on the same page.

mike johnson still holding on to the idea they can get policy changes through. >> the policy changes the american people want are do their jobs. i hear that all the time when out as i'm sure you do. aaron, as i said, enter president biden. what can he do about this situation? and what message do we know he'll bring tomorrow to congressional leaders. >> you said it, chris, do your job. that has been the message that the white house has been articulating the last several weeks at least. the press secretary saying again today, there's an expectation that the government can be funded and the government can continue to function and that responsibility rests with congress. korean jean-pierre said today. her position is republicans in the house need to do what it takes to make sure the government does not shut down come friday night. we know we'll see at least five cabinet agencies and all the agencies under them would shut down at midnight on friday including agriculture,

transportation, veterans affairs. and the ramifications of that, the repercussions and how it affects people's real lives on a daily basis would be extreme. so president biden in calling this meeting tomorrow at the white house, the four top leaders in congress, he's asked to come and sit down and have a conversation about what it will take for congress to continue to fund the government and keep the government from shutting down this weekend and again next week with the other agencies that are slated to shut down. so what exactly that looks like, the step that is taken in order to keep the government open, the white house hasn't said what it favors, whether that is something to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year or something that would be a continuing resolution that might fund it for a couple weeks. we'll continue to press to see what exactly is the strategy the president will be taking into that meeting. he's long considered himself one that can bring people together, particularly people with whom he's worked in congress over his time in government. so we'll see if that comes to fruition after the meeting tomorrow. >> aaron gilchrist, jake

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an encounter with a minor, and this was last august. and so that coupled with the arrest of his brother, that is a separate arrest, not related to laken riley, he was arrested for fraudulent green card possession. and he had apparently used that same green card, this is coming from the university of georgia spokesperson, to acquire a position as a dishwasher on the university campus, and apparently he had been hired. he never got paid because they found out about the fake green card. he ended up getting fired. all of this together has created a political fire storm, particularly when it comes to immigration among conservatives. the local congressman here saying president joe biden has blood on his hands, and georgia's governor brian kemp has been very vocal, particularly on twitter making his appearances, writing a letter to president biden speaking here in athens this morning, and we know this is coming as the president is

making their way to the border. there's a discussion about safety on campus. we have spoken to a number of students. there's a petition about bringing blue lights on campus, that has over 25,000 signatures. those are, by the way, for those who don't know, the call boxes that you can use. you press a button to reach authorities. there's also just the feeling of unease. students, particularly women, carrying pepper spray even, saying that they're afraid to walk alone. taking measures they have never taken before. this is at a time of grief for so many students. for many, this is their chance to have their own good-bye today. at 3:00 p.m., we're seeing a vigil for laken riley on this first day back to class. >> thank you. in our next hour, president biden and former president trump border bound on thursday. what's going on? stay close. more "chris jansing reports" austin after this. austin after this. .

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