at this time, nbc news projects that donald trump will win the michigan republican primary. that is our election projection, donald trump, the projected winner of the michigan primary. nbc news can also now project that president joe biden will win the michigan democratic primary. again joe biden projected winner of the michigan democratic primary. let's head over to steve kornacki, who is where he always, is's post of the big board. steve, what are the latest numbers? here >> you can see, as you have been falling for the last hour, the story has been the difference between the polls being opened and closed in michigan. it's -- dire menominee, together 0.5% of the state folks. everything else has been closed for an hour, but none of the wisconsin border counties are closed, we can make that projection. but it has been evident to you if you've been watching for the

last hour what's been happening here. and one of the things is as more vote has been coming in, it was initially very concentrated right here in southeastern michigan. but more votes from the rural areas, up north, our start to come in, some of the u.p. is trying to come in. and that haley never has continued to tick down and down ever so slightly. now she's just over 30% at 31%. now trump a better than 2 to 1 lead over nikki haley. and we mentioned if you're watching just a few minutes ago, in southeastern michigan, the two counties where we think hailie's going to do best, tonight where she wanted to have a strong showing statewide, it really need to show was one major suburban county of oakland county, more than half the vote is in there. she's barely above 30%. this is a county for haley to be making a statement in michigan. she would need to be winning in what should be her best county in the state, quite possibly, would be washtenaw county university in michigan, eastern michigan university, and even there, now 70% vote is in and she's living by almost 12 points to donald trump. so, everyone else around their, and certainly the rest of the state, gets worse and worse for

haley. and it raises the question of whether she is even going to be able to finish, i think, above that 30% number. remember, she got 43 new hampshire. she got 40 in south carolina. what could still buttress haley's support would be, we've mentioned this, this corner of western michigan around kent county, where grand rapids is, around ottawa county. this is where holland, michigan is. we see we have a little bit of voting. it's almost nothing. but i can show you from ottawa county, we do have an initial 1% in. if it is a harbinger for haley, it would be a terrible one. -- there's a five county region here, it's about 17% of the statewide republican primary vote total. and this five county region, trump did not win a single one of them in the 2016 primary in michigan. in fact, in two of them, including the one we just highlighted here, he finished in third place in 2016. this is has he was winning the

state by a double digit margin. so, again, if haley wants to get that statewide number up, or once really stabilize it where it is, i think this area is really going to have to come in for her. one other sort of a big outstanding slice of vote in southeastern michigan, we are still waiting on livingston county. nothing there. but again, especially once you get north here, basically, we could say saginaw, it's a bit arbitrary. but once you get north of there, it is basically trump country. in small, rural counties with large populations of non- college white voters, the core trump base. you could just see what is happening here, as they start to report it. and you are going to see margins like, that cumulatively. they're going to add up and they're going to buttress that trump number statewide. now, taking a look here at the democratic side overall now, 10% of the vote, uncommitted, at least for the moment, over that 15% mark. 15% statewide, 15% in congressional districts in michigan is the threshold on the democratic side to begin collecting delegates of the democratic national convention. now, with a margin like, this, biden is going to take the lion's share of delegates here. but the possibility of uncommitted gets delegates is certainly alive in the returns. nearby basically, the uncommitted story on the

democratic side that we are following for the rest of the night is gonna be concentrated in a few places. the first is right here in wayne county. this is the biggest of the big, this is detroit here. but it is also home of dearborn. and you had the mayor on from dearborn a few minutes ago. dearborn, with a majority arab american population. so, we have, obviously, 85 votes only from wayne tonight. there is going to be far, for more coming in. but that is going to tell a big part of the story here of whether uncommitted is registering with that large arab american and muslim american population is uncommitted, substantial vote start to come in. and then the other type of vote, the other demographic that uncommitted might be drawing support from, we said, college counties, college students, maybe college faculty, for that matter. we certainly got indications on college campuses of dissent toward joe biden's israel-hamas policy and -- eastern michigan university, about 40% is in right now. that uncommitted number continues to hover just below a quarter of the vote right there.

the other major places to watch, then, for this uncommitted factor, would be college counties, really, and the rest of michigan. so, places you would look, this is isabella county up here. this is where central michigan university is, this is kalamazoo county western michigan is here. let's go broncos, or go up to marquette, beautiful county. marquette is on lake superior. it's also the home of northern north michigan university and that's where michigan tech is in. we do have some vote in isabella and kalamazoo. i don't believe it's much. yeah, isabelle is just a scattering. and kalamazoo is also just a scattering. but wayne county with that large arab american population, and then those college counties we just looked at, that is going to tell i think, the story here. those will be the high water marks are uncommitted in the state. and again that question of where it ultimately lands here and a little bit of question here to have is he getting some delegates? that would be more of a symbolic thing, but that be interesting if uncommitted is collecting delegates. >> fastening stuff here, steve. we'll be -- thank you for, that

we will be back to you. soon today, volunteers were out on the streets of michigan, not canvassing for any one particular candidate, but canvassing to get michiganders to vote uncommitted in today's primary. it is a protest vote, a vote to send a message to president biden that these voters want the white house to push israel more forcefully towards a cease- fire in gaza, and they do not approve of his handling of the war thus far. the organizers behind this effort had aimed to get 10,000 uncommitted votes today. that would mirror the 10,000 vote margin by which trump beat hillary clinton in michigan in 2016. it is a relatively low far, which is one they cleared just minutes after polls close tonight. michigan has more than 300,000 arab american residents and hundreds of thousands of college students. beyond that, wayne county michigan is the home city of dearborn which as the largest muslim population per capita of any city in the united states just west of wayne county as washtenaw county, home to university michigan and eastern

michigan university. both the states arab population and its college age population have been outspoken in expressing their anger toward the current u.s. policy on the israel-hamas war. those are not the only typically democratic votes we are gonna be looking at tonight. exit polls show that in 2020, union members in michigan back joe biden by a 25 point margin. but a fox news poll out this month showed biden's lead among the states union voters has fallen to 12 points, and that is outside the fairly whopping seven point margin of error in this poll. so there is a lot of vote that democrats will be looking both at and for when the results come in, as far as what might happen in november. joining us now is michigan's democratic senator, debbie stabenow. senator stabenow, it is an exciting night to have you with us. and thanks for joining us. as we get these vote totals in, i would first ask about the uncommitted vote and how you think the biden campaign should be reaching out to these voters

tomorrow. >> it is great to be with you again. and let me say, this is an important group of people who want to be heard, and are making themselves heard. and it is very important. and i know that president biden is listening, as he should be, and is moving forward to do a number of things that need to be done in terms of cease-fire and addressing what has been an incredible loss of life of innocent citizens, as well as bringing hostages home. so, it's important. i think it is also important to say there is another piece of the story in michigan. i think that is not yet focused on, which is the fact that people came out to vote. people came out to vote. we worked really hard to move of our primary because we are a very diverse state, both

economically, ethnically, in every possible way, we represent america. and we saw more people a vote before today, in absentee ballots and early voting that did before in 2020. people were voting, excited to, and voting today. and so that's important to focus on as well. president biden will overwhelmingly win michigan. but he needs to be respectful and pay attention. i'm confident he will, of those people who are on committed, to send a very strong message about the concerns. i should say also, this is not new to michigan. back in 2012, with president obama, we had about 10% of those who voted in the primary that voted uncommitted for various reasons. this would be more than that tonight, certainly. but it's important to pay attention to that, but also pay tension to everyone else who was voting overwhelmingly for

president biden in a very large coalition. people are working in michigan, and they know it, in good paying jobs. and they appreciate taking on the drug companies, and women in our state certainly understand what is at stake in terms our of our freedoms to make our own reproductive decisions. and they are frankly horrified after alabama about what comes next with ivf. so we have a broad coalition. everyone needs to be respective, and certainly the president needs to be respectful of those who are voting uncommitted as well. >> senator, given the extraordinary amount of support that the president has offered union workers both on the picket line and through legislation, are you at all concerned about some of this polling that shows that his support among union workers may have soften between now and 2020? >> you know alex, i just don't

believe that. i have been all over this state. i've been campaigning with a president who gets overwhelming positive responses we went to uaw hall is a couple of weeks ago. i've been with our building construction workers and their leadership in the last two weeks. they are working. they are working overtime. they know where that is coming from. they know that the fact that we are rebuilding michigan and creating more manufacturing jobs and bringing jobs home, they know that. so, the polls are the polls. but i can just tell you, with all the bad polls we hear, all the time, the reality is we've won every special election as democrats. we have beat the polls, it seems, like over and over and over again. and so, michigan's a purple state. we are going to have to work really hard. but i don't believe for a minute that he has lost support, given what he has been doing to support workers in michigan. >> senator stabenow, it's chris hayes here. just a follow-up on that, it's interesting to hear you talk

about the sort of economic status of folks in michigan. for so long, i think, despite all the truly remarkable macroeconomic numbers, the cost of living and inflation tended to cloud that out in political discussion, in the punditry discussion. >> right. >> you think that's turned the corner in your state? do you feel like all of these numbers -- record low unemployment, investment in manufacturing -- is impacting folks that you are around and campaigning? >> you know, chris hayes, that's a really good question. i do think we are turning a corner. it was frustrating for a long time, when we are seeing these numbers, 15 million new jobs, and the best economy, more small businesses. the lowest black unemployment forever, ever, ever. and yet, people weren't feeling it. but i see a change, i really do. and i say to folks that are -- when i'm in the union halls, and these are construction folks doing all of the great work, and i say, how are you

doing, oh, great, working overtime, yeah, you know who did that? and now they say joe biden and democrats, that they know a prevailing wage, the efforts. they saw the president on the picket line for the first time ever, a president out there. and they know that donald trump then went to a non-union place and paid people to pretend they were union workers. so he could say somehow he supported autoworkers. they are not fools. they know what's happening. and we are beginning to see it in other ways. you know, i talked to people who are seeing the prescription drug costs go down, or somebody, a union member, who said to me, you know, my mom is on insulin and it's now $35 a month, a man, that's made a difference for her. so it's starting. and that's why i'm actually very confident. i mean, we've got work to do. we've got to tell the story, for sure. we have to all tell the story, and listen to every single

poll. [laughter] but look at what's happening on the ground, which is what i'm doing every single day, and i can tell you i'm optimistic. i really am. and i think tonight is a part of. that >> debbie stabenow, senator for the great state of michigan, with some real top for all of us. thank you for your time tonight, really appreciate it. >> thanks. >> this is, you know, it is great to hear from the senator about what is really happening on the ground with issues that you in particular have been talking animatedly about for sometime. we've got more special coverage of the michigan primary coming up right after the break. >> i think the reason why we got trump in 2016 is because people did not vote. and i understand uncommitted, but this is too important an election to be uncommitted. be (player 1) what? (luke) like a percentage, if you had to guess. (players) hey, get out of here man. get off the field. (luke) understood. (players) security! grab him! (marci) great student-teacher ratio... (luke) marci! we've got to go! marci! we have got to go!

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for the incumbent democratic president, joe biden, in order to register discontent about the president's policy in the israel-hamas war. heading into tonight, listen to michigan was hoping to garner at least 10,000 uncommitted votes, roughly donald trump's margin of victory in 2016 against hillary clinton. right now, there are at over 20,000 votes, that is almost 16% of the vote across the state. listen to michigan now expects they will even receive a delegate to send to the democratic convention in chicago this summer. joining us now is layla elabed, campaign manager for the listen to michigan campaign. thank you so much for joining me tonight. it's a big night for you grassroots organization. can i first get your thoughts on the numbers we have thus far? i think our official count is over 20,000. we have some reporting that says it could go as high as 100,000. we know that joe biden beat donald trump by 154,000 in the state. is there any chance listen to michigan gets to that number? >> i mean, that would be amazing for us to get that

number. but right now, we know that we are emerging victorious. we had a modest expectation of 10,000 votes and we have already doubled that just in the short time after polling locations have closed. so we feel really good right now, and it would be amazing to reach those numbers as well. >> there is some talk that you may earn a delegate to the democratic convention. i wonder if you kind of had a strategy of what you might do with that delegate and what the future of that delicate might be. >> yeah, right now is just really exciting to even think about the prospect of sending a delegate and having that. and we will talk about that as our next steps. right now, we are celebrating this victory and the palestinians are in our hearts and prayers right now. and we know that we are doing this in order to have a

permanent cease-fire and put pressure on joe biden to change course now. >> you talk about a permanent cease-fire, i wonder if you can tell me a little bit more about the coalition. because it seems as if if there is not two factions, there's two sides of it, in so far as there are one group of people who want to see concrete action from the white house, but also another subset of individuals for whom the biden administration has effectively crossed a redline, that they will not vote for joe biden in november, they may sit out the election entire. is that an accurate assessment and give us sort of a breakdown in terms of what percentage of people are open to a message and an action from this white house? >> the listen to michigan campaign has been solely focused on the primary to send that resounding message to joe biden that we need a cease-fire now. we need him to listen to his core constituency, his base that put him into office in 2020, and he needs to listen to

us when we say we need a permanent cease-fire in order to save as many lives as possible. and michiganders, especially within our community, the arab american and muslim american community, this aggression has affected us directly. and so, when we talk about these factions within this movement, this pro cease-fire movement, i think that there is going to be come november there is going to be folks that can't bring themselves to vote for joe biden because of that deep betrayal, not only as muslim americans and arab americans that have direct ties to palestine and that region, but also it feels a betrayal to our democracy that we would align ourselves, the united states would align themselves with netanyahu and his right government over the people that have been saying since october we need a permanent cease-fire right now. >> is there conversation inside the coalition about the possible scenario in which the

sitting out of the election hands a victory to donald trump? is that something that is actually discussed within the listen to michigan group? >> well, we know that our community that has supported listen to michigan, that have worked on listen to michigan, they are not going to vote in a monolith. so i can't speak for everyone that is part of our coalition. but what i do understand is we know this coalition knows that donald trump and his presidency was not a friend to the muslim american and the arab american community. but most communities that were part of this coalition. but what we can say right now as we focus on the primary to send this message to joe biden that he needed to listen to michiganders when we said we need a permanent cease-fire now, and come november is gonna be joe biden and the democratic party that are gonna be held accountable for handing the white house to someone like

trump. >> layla elabed, thank you so much for your time tonight, we'll be watching those returns, appreciate your time. let's head back over to steve kornacki, who is back at the big board with more information and results. steve, what do you got there? >> is a striking that story, there the uncommitted vote. really, it's 15% right now statewide, we are looking at select kind of counties in areas where you really want to see what the impact here. one of the big -- college county it has ticked down the uncommitted totally bit. it was running about 25%, it is fallen as half the vote has come in here, but again, the votes are coming in from a variety of places in the county. so keep an eye on that one. that right now is the high water mark for uncommitted. and we are starting now to get a little bit more out of wayne. detroit, the biggie here, the motherlode. but dearborn here, for the purposes of trying to get those uncommitted levels of support, the biggie we're waiting on. on the republican side, just to update you, haley has now fallen under 30%.

we talked about just how based on what we saw in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and the types of voters she was drawing votes from in those states, she would've expected, i think you would've expected her to be doing better in the southeastern part of the state here, where she's losing all those counties, including that could be the best of the state. and i said keep an eye on this zone here, right around grand rapids, these are two big counties. canmore is and ottawa county, five assigned the vote in this whole state in this primary is going to come out of ottawa county right here. it is early, but we do have 7 percent. we told you ottawa, one of the worst counties in the state for donald trump in 2016. he came in third here, he only got 19% of the vote. let's see if this is any kind of a harbinger, this early vote. haley right now though, i think honestly, she wants to crack 30%. this area has got to deliver for her, because trump is just racking up huge margins in all of the rural, areas with low concentrations of college degrees. and again, haley missed her mark here in southeastern

michigan. 40, 43%, she was getting other primaries. looks like she's getting under -- 30% is the question. >> thank, you steve. i'm really interested in if nikki haley stays in this race for many reasons. her rhetoric around donald trump, as claire mccaskill said early in the hour, has gotten sharper. but we're not talking about the essential sins of donald trump inside the republican primary yet, that's not part the conversation. >> yeah, no, but he's too unfocused, as you pointed out the other night. >> yeah, lack of focus. and joe biden's failures and donald trump's lack of focus. one wonders if this is her conscious keeping her in the race, if she doesn't actually have designs on the nomination and a convention floor fight. whether she actually does speaker truth in a meaningful way in the closing hours of the

campaigns. >> the question i've asked myself throughout this entire race, specifically with regards to chris christie and some of the things he said after he dropped out of the race, which is who are the sliver of persuadable voters that we are talking about? people who have voted for donald trump, consider themselves republicans, partisan republicans, who almost certainly have a low favorability of joe biden and democrats, but who could be moved off of voting for donald trump. they exist, they're showing up, i think, in what we're seeing. and the question of, like, what arguments will they listen to, right? the man is sort of a sociopathic menace who represents the worst challenge the constitutional republic since the confederacy, which i think is a true statement, is not the argument that wins with them. and i guess i have a hard time figuring out what that right argument is. >> it's a thanksgiving dinner table argument with your uncle. >> totally, and we're watching her, i think we have watched her workshop this argument. and it has had some effect.

this is better than--more sucessful than ron desantis's argument, which is donald trump's too soft on trans kids, which did not work. so there is something to it. she is speaking to a certain portion of that party. the majority of the party wants donald trump, and that is clear. my question is, does she start to unlock something that is an argument that can be -- because i think the sort of january 6th democracy things, which are so pressing, i do think if those -- if that argument worked on those folks, they probably would be off the trump train already. so i do think it is interesting to watch her rhetoric, because it is a little bit of a realtime experiment of what can reach those people. >> yeah, there is a question though, can the party actually move beyond him, unless they address the central -- >> that i totally agree with. >> if you just keep saying he's not a winner, we'll see what that is. >> he's not a winner, and he's unfocused. that's the thing, people say what's the first thing you say about donald trump, unfocused,

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who did you just go for, what did you just so far? >> non committed.

>> why? >> because i don't like either candidate. biden is a little too old, and trump's too far-right, extreme, for me. >> that was a voter in detroit, michigan, earlier today explaining his uncommitted vote in the state's democratic primary today, not because of president biden's handling of the conflict in gaza, but because of his age. joining me now is democratic michigan state senator mallory mcmorrow. senator, thank you for being here. we've been talking a lot this evening about the war in gaza. we've been talking about trump v. haley and the schism within the republican party. i am really interested to hear from you how new x factors are influencing the michigan electorate, and specifically the questions of reproductive freedoms. ivf, because of the alabama court ruling, has become a national issue, and i want to you can give me a sense of how that is playing out in your state in terms of animating independents, democrats, and

even maybe republicans. >> look, i can tell you heading into this election year i think a lot of people felt a lot of fatigue at the thought of a rematch of 2020. but in the wake of the alabama ruling and a state representative here who has gained a lot of attention in the republican party recently who's called for an outright ban on contraception, it has fired people up. there has been phone banks and events organizing all around the state because this was an issue that michigan lead on harvard in 2022. women mobilized extremely hard to codified abortion access and reproductive rights in our state constitution. and we will be if that gets over done on the federal level. so it is going to be a huge issue heading into november. >> senator, chris hayes here. just a follow-up on that, you talked about phone banks. i'm just curious that there was a tremendous and tremendously effective statewide organizing push around that statewide constitutional amendment that secured abortion rights. are those organizations, those

folks, still in touch? is there is still the capacity that was there, the connections that were made, the volunteer bases, all the things made to mobilize in 2022, is that still extant and will it play a factor in november? >> 100% it is. this is something i've to give credit where credit is due on the right, that the antichoice movement did and did successfully for a long time was attempt ballot measures even though they knew it wasn't to be successful because it mobilized volunteers, allowed them with contact information. now we're doing it on our side. these people are engaged, connected, we have organizers in all 83 counties and they're ready to go again. >> i just want to ask a little bit about how the prosecutions of donald trump are playing out in the state of michigan, where you have an attorney general who's actively pursuing fake electors that try to interfere in the 2020 campaign, where there's a plot to eliminate the governor's state, where there's a strong militia presence. does that animate the

republican side as equally as it does the democratic side? can you talk just a little bit about how that all plays out in terms of the internal michigan politics? >> you know, it's interesting because the republican side is going to a bit of an identity crisis right now. there are two competing state gop parties potentially two competing conventions. there is a court case playing out in just today to decide which convention is the actual gop convention, and it is this schism of people who will willingly fall in line behind donald trump, despite the fact that, yes, there was a plot to potentially kidnap and kill the governor. i was on the senate floor below men in carrying ar-15 and full tactical gear. and most michiganders just want to move on. but it's really hard to let go of a war of some people for donald trump, who demands nothing but 100% loyalty. >> can you talk to us real quick about the young people of michigan, which makes me sound

like very much an old person, but as we get this vote infer on committed, there is a sizeable portion of young voters in the ann arbor area and ypsilanti who are voted uncommitted as kind of a sign of distrust or distaste for the upcoming president. and i wonder how much of an issue think that is in terms of the general election in november, how much biden has shored up support with michigan's young? >> i was this at the university of michigan last week, giving a talk to people there. and i think there was a real fear that higher this campaign on a knife, that young people were just going to stay home for that election. so the fact that we do have people turning out and making their voices heard, there is a long time between now and november. i know that the administration has worked hard well before this primary to reach out and connect, particularly on the issue of the war between israel and gaza right now, what we're seeing happen.

hopefully the news of a brokered cease-fire comes to fruition. but engaging young people, in my mind, in michigan is a great thing. that is exercising your right to vote now. that is meant to pave a path november that we desperately need. >> michigan state senator mallory mcmorrow, for having you on the program, thank you so much, appreciate your insight. i think it's so valuable hearing from people saying -- first of all, what she's saying about leave us fracture that's been built up in and around the question of reproductive freedom. when you talk about with the whole ball game might be in november, could be ivf, could be abortion, could be the sort of freedom of bodily autonomy. >> and i also think the last point was actually a really important one, and i haven't thought of it this way. and i think there's something to be said of the way the listen to michigan campaign is gone about this. which is there are some folks that have run a campaign called abandoned by them, which is it's done, it's over, it's whatever. the prospective listen to michigan are these are people who have real complaints,

substantive complaints, disagree with the presidents policy. how do we engage them in such a way that keeps them in an act of political dialogue and actively politically involved building towards something, as opposed to feeling completely alienated and rejected? and her point there of, look, active is better than inactive. invested is better than alienated and diffident. i think it's actually a very important one for thinking about what the next five or six months into november look like. >> and that's represented democracy. >> completely, that's what it should be. >> we believe that we can see change if we did speak loudly enough. all right, we will have more of our continuing special coverage of the michigan democratic primary coming up. stay with us. >> absolutely, we voted uncommitted today, again, to put that pressure on the current administration to call for a cease-fire so that we can see peace and -- yeah, just

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has done. so i think that will have a positive effect. but michigan is always close. and i think what we seem to be seeing with this uncommitted vote tonight is enough uncommitted to feel good about the results but also biden doing well enough to not feel like he's caught out or something. so i think overall for the democratic party, this is a pretty good result out of tonight. so i think they have reason to be bullish. >> when you look add the lines in the sand, as it were, josh, when it comes to the republican side of the aisle, nikki haley not doing as well as she did in previous primaries, donald trump seemingly consolidating support, what's your expectation for the republican race? >> my expectation as of a year ago was the dondra trump was understands the nominee. i never had any question about that. i do think that out of iowa and new hampshire and even into south carolina there was that

fairly consistent 40% of basically knows. nikki haley is a place holder candidate. she is consolidating the republicans and republican- leaning independents who don't want to or aren't ready to get on board with donald trump. it doesn't mean most of them won't vote for him in november, but this is a better result than donald trump got in the first few contests. and i would say he should be happy, a little happier about that then he has been about the results of the first three or four contests. >> maybe he can lay off calling the uaw president stupid next time. might do better. >> yeah, my two even. better >> thank you for your time. we'll have more of a special coverage of the michigan primary right after this quick break. >> i can understand where they are coming from. i don't support that. i feel like -- vote uncommitted ends up hurting the democratic party more than the republican party. so there's a danger to that. so there's a danger to that. bei. keep being you... and ask your healthcprovidee

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>> if you are just joining us, in tonight's special election coverage of michigan's presidential primary, nbc news is projecting donald trump to win 16 of michigan's 55 republican national convention delegates. the other 39 will be awarded on saturday during a gop state party convention, or maybe possibly conventions plural. because if you have not yet heard, the michigan republican party is currently a bit of a goat rodeo, fighting literally and figuratively over who their leader is. either trump loyalist an election denier kristina karamo, or pete -- a faction of the party voted to replace karamo. today a judge of michigan ruled

that hotter is the rightful leader of the republican party the state, and judges -- from accessing the bank accounts. i'm not don't know what i'm gonna. so this is what happens when you have election deniers in your power party. they don't like ceding power. >> also the people attracted into the infrastructure in the trump area. we all saw in arizona when they were doing their forensic audit and they had the ev to find the chinese bamboo paper in the ballot. those are the people that show up. so those are the people that would take down these parties and big question for me is in nevada arizona michigan, all of which have truly dysfunctional republican parties, how much is going to matter. how much is that