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likely to be the timeframe that he outlined. so before thursday, when he delivered the state of the union address, obviously if there is a deal, that is better for him in that regard. but if there is not one, i don't think you will hear him talk about a permanent cease- fire or an enduring cease-fire. he may talk about a need for a set temporary cease-fire as part of the deal to at least -- release the hostages. he has now crossed that line, in a sense. but he has resisted the idea of an all-out cease-fire that has been -- a lot of people in his own party wanted him to call for. >> peter baker, thank you, sir. appreciate it. welcome to alex witt reports. i'm yasmin vossoughian, in for my friend, alex. we're going to start with this breaking itnews.
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u.s. officials saying military cargo u.planes dropped 38,000 meals in pallets over gaza. the u.s. military airdrop coming in response to the killing of more than 150 palestinians this week. during a chaotic encounter when israeli troops opened fire on people in gaza during a crush to secure food aid. >> united states eruption to gaza in court nation with our international partners. we double our efforts to open up humanitarian maritime corridors to -- humanitarian assistance by sea -- >> and an egyptian government telling nbc news to high-level delegations are expected in cairo tomorrow for discussions on a possible truce tween israel and hamas. the source saying as part of these discussions, israel may begin to allow the entry of -- humanitarian aid and fuel to gaza. right now, activists are staging a series of rallies across the united states. in support of palestinians.
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and several more marches are scheduled to kick off in the next three hours. we have reporters someplace around the globe, covering all of these new developments. want to go first to nbc's matt rally, life for us in london. matt, what can you tell us about the first rounds of airdrops? >> yeah, yasmin. u.s. officials said this is actually done in cooperation with the jordanians. they have been conducting theirt own aid trucks ever since early november. as you mentioned, this is the first one for the u.s.. according to u.s. command, transport place delivered 38,000 meals. now, yasmin, these are much needed supplies. gaza strip has already been suffering from what many aid agencies have been calling famine. we saw that incredible desperation among those palestinians that many international haorganizations s contributed to that stampede and the israeli mass shooting in gaza to days ago. now, the death toll for that, that rose again today to 118, making it still the single most
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lethal incident against civilians since israel's invasion of gaza began. now, aid agencies have also been saying this american aid drop just isn't enough, and some of these award that relying on aired airdrops, which the community continues an expensive, inefficient last resort, , that might become kin of a political distraction to what they say should be the real diplomatic goal. that is getting israel to stop their siege, getting israelis on the egyptians to lift their blockade of gaza, and letting in much larger amounts of aid, preferably by road. but can abbe done efficiently. president biden spoke yesterday about some of that. eight he told reporters. >> the loss of life is heartbreaking. people are so desperate, innocent people got caught in a terrible war, trying to feed their families, and you ngsaw t response when they tried to get eight in. we need to do more. the united states will do more. in the coming days, we're going to join with our friends in
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jordan and others who -- are fighting airdrops of additional food and supplies. >> yes, so, it sounds like according esto the president, american aid or more american aid is on the way, but this isn't going to be coming soon enough. the yuan haven't been able to get their aid into the northern gaza strip, which has been under siege ever since the de beginning of this conflict, for more than the past week. yasmin? >> keep meat where we are, matt, if we can't on the coach ea shuns. for a hostage release? >> we heard from president biden last week he hoped a deal would be finished by monday. that's two days from now. just today, as you mentioned, nbc news from egyptian officials there saying high- level delegations from hamas and israel, both of them, are going to be there tomorrow to discuss the steel. that might see a 14-day pause in the fighting over the holy month of ramadan. but that deal could see the release, also, . of israeli hostages and palestinian first nurse. as we were just discussing, it doesn't necessarily look like
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it's the idea of a permanent cease-fire is in the offer. but these negotiations have been going on for months, and i have seen many false hopes and false dawns, so, i wouldn't say necessarily, yasmin, to get your hopes up about this round of negotiations. >> matt bradley for us. thank you, matt, appreciate. it want to bring in now nbc correspondent allie raffa the white house for us. ali, i want to talk about kind of the behind the scenes of getting this airdrop going, allie, and what we're learning from inside the iswhite house. >> yeah, yasmin. we have heard in recent days how there has been private conversations about how to get more humanitarian aid into gaza among these increasing frustrations between u.s. officials and their israeli counterparts. in reaction to these new airdrops, the first of what white house officials are saying will be a series of airdrops into gaza by the u.s. and partners, they are definitely satisfied with the results of this first one, but they're saying this is meant to
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supplement, not replace, the flow of humanitarian aid through border crossings, through those trucks that are going through those border crossings from israel. that aid ngnow being bottleneck for days now, and you heard matt talk about the humanitarian crisis growing worse by the day there, because of the lack of flow by those trucks into gaza, and the president talked about the increasing need to get more aid into this area yesterday. he said the u.s. is considering even a maritime often to be able to directly access palestinians through the coastline to get aid through the ocean there. he also, we heard from u.s. officials telling reporters in and inupdate this morning that the u.s. is g also asking israe to open more border crossings beyond the tooth our already open to be able to get more aid into gaza. no timeline, the, was offered by officials on when we could see developments on those two
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fronts. but this, no doubt, yasmin, really shines a light on this increasingly a tough test by th u.s. to influence their long- standing ally in israel. and this comes, a course, the backdrop of that aid attack in gaza that killed over 100 palestinians. the president saying earlier this week that no doubt that attack would have an influence e and impact on these ongoing cease-fire negotiations, and those officials on a egcall wit reporters this morning also offered poa little update on those ongoing talks. you heard matt talk about how to delegations from hamas and israel nswould be meeting again tomorrow in cairo. u.s. officials saying that israel has quote, more or less agreed to the framework of a deal that would allow for a six- week cease-fire. they say, starting today, if hamas agrees to release a vulnerable hostages. meaning the ill, the elderly, ly women and children. so, they say that the ball is
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now infamous courts to be able to respond to that. they hope to be able to continue eyhaving that goal tha we heard from the president earlier this week, so he hopes that cease-fire will be able to be reached by monday, and notably, yasmin, these officials said they are also working on what a second phase of the cease-fire could be beyond the six weeks, if this s deal is eventually reached, yasmin. >> all right, nbc's allie raffa for us. thank you, allie. appreciate it. i'm going to speak about this with retired u.s. army general, general bent holidays, about the challenges of air dropping 82 esabortion like gaza, later this hour, you don't miss this conversation. this federal appeals court in washington tossing out a portion of a sentence for a january 6th defendant. a decision jathat could ripple down to more than 100 other cases related to the capitol attack. nbc news reporter ryan riley has been following the story for us. he's also the author of the books, -- how january 6th broke the justice system. the appeals court, ryan,
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overruling a decision to thget the january six rioter eight lengthen prison sentence. what was the reasoning? how could this impact other cases? >> so, this is really about a ou sentencing enhancement. the administration of a justice essentially, what that means in the court is that typically, it's applied to cases that involve some sort of judicial proceeding. while prosecutors have done here is say what was happening on january six itself was part of the administration of justice. to say the counting of electoral college votes was some sort of procedure, right, that's had some sort of justice component to it. so, that gave a little bit of an enhanced sentence to over 100 of these january six defendants, and it's going to happen that was going d to be a lot of people who are going to be making pthese court filings to getting some of their sentence shaved off. it's going to create a lot of work and a lot of backlog for the system, and people are going to end up slightly reduced sentences off of this. it really speaks to how complicated this has been for
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the courts to be handling all these hundreds upon hundreds of cases coming in, because you know, ithere's not really a la that was strictly about attacking the u.s. capital. there is no specifically about the electoral college that i could say, don't thstorm the capitol during the peaceful transfer of power. they had to find other laws that apply to this type of behavior, and it's been the complicated system. you orknow, there's been this appeal, and issue before the supreme court, which could affect more than 300 of these cases, because that is about a fraction haof justice. in that case actually could affect one particularly big january six defendants, that is donald trump. that could impact his prosecution. so, this case continues to roll in. yesterday, in tofact, there was the conviction of the very first rioter to breach the u.s. capitol, michael sparks, who was convicted on all six counts like yesterday afternoon, yasmin. >> nbc's ryan riley for us, thank, you ryan. appreciate it. donald trump said something in a deposition that today, seems even more wrong and what he said, it especially when you
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rewards, substantially and excessive, 400 million cash, which is a lot for a developer. developers usually don't have cash, they have assets, not cash. i believe, 400 plus and going up very substantially every month. >> i want to bring in kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and former deputy head of the criminal division southern district of new york. so, trump's attorneys say okay, we're going to put 100 million dollars down for this bonds appeal. and we're kind of asking for special conversation or something, because we don't necessarily have the cash. however, donald from just said he has substantially, in excess, $400 million, if not weigh more, and it's going up by the day. so, he talks about, he has a cash, but he saying he doesn't certainly have the cash. is this an effort for him not to sell off his assets or is he
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hiding cash? >> so, look, it could be both. i mean, it's really unclear. he clearly does not want to sell assets. he makes that clear in his papers that that would be calling him a irreparable harm. but he needs to, in order to be able to appeal, he has to put up the money, whether through eight bonds or yes to put up the cash. and as to beautiful about. it can't be this okay, we're gonna give you 25% of what the judgment amount is. that's not how it works. there's no deal making here. the law is very clear. you have to put up the full amount. a fact, you have to put up an excess of that's amount under new york law. so, the question is, why doesn't he just try to get a bond? i'm sure he has. but what bonding company is going to be foolish enough to post a bond for trump and be on the hook for the whole amount if he stiff them? remember, we don't know why his assets are. he was just found liable for financial fraud, and he doesn't outlined in these papers you, know what his assets, are what
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his debts are, they are still, in a lot of questions around that. and ultimately, if he becomes presidents of the united states, he could be suing the precedent for the amount if he stiff them. so, -- >> if he doesn't have the money, right, and he cannot secure a bronze in the next, at this point, what, 28 days or so, and he's got to pay in excess of 450 million, what does he do in that time period? >> well, if he does not the casualty can't get abundantly wants to appeal, he's got to find a way to get the money. so, he could sell assets. i mean, he certainly has within his portfolio assets that are worth $450 million to be able to set one avenue. the other avenues he goes out and searches for people who will make donations. now, campaign donations are probably not going to cut it, so, there's a lot of concern about are there any foreign countries are foreign actors who would be willing to give
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him the money. really, under new york law, the new york a.g. isn't going to be looking at the sources of his money. so really, then it becomes a question of what kind of influence could any foreign actors potentially have over donald trump? this, these are the kinds of things that when the government is looking at who can get a security clearance to look at it, does the person of debt? does he have any influence? right? so, that's what could happen here. >> could he puts up his assets as collateral and instead of selling them off? it's that allowed? >> no. well, so for a bond, he would have to put up for a bond, when a percentage, usually, it's about 10%. off the judgment, then, he would have to give the bronson company some collateral. but for the actual, if he were to just puts up cash, he has to put out the cash. >> got it, got it. i want to talk of the supreme court decision to hear this immunity case on april 22nd. there was an anecdotal story in
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rolling stone, saying essentially, trump's lawyers were popping bottles when that decision came down. because of the potential impact it may have. even if they don't decide in favor, --
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breaking news. or following extreme -- extrem bringing, news following extreme -- truckee, california.
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steve gives the latest there? >> stunning continuously fatter by this blizzard. it has been relentlessly overnight. the storm exploding, dumping feet of snow in that region now. it's a big kick out in truckee. you can see the snow blower going, the problem with all this is the snow just doesn't stop. you could see the plow accumulating this snow alongside here, all of this work to trying to get ahead of the next wave. the problem is, there is no next wave. it's just one, continuous, break one. this is a little bit of what i would call a lull right now, because of snow is actually dropping vertically instead of hitting a sideways. you go up tantamount snow, we can seeing gusts. there was one reported overnight over 990 miles per hour, with sustained winds of
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over 90 miles per. our year, we can expect 2 to 3 feet. we've got the worst, maybe 5 to 6 feet, that's the prediction up in the mountains,. out looking still at about 12 feet of snow. that is just a ridiculous mountain snow. the biggest impact it's having, of course, is on the roadways. the major interstate here. i-80. that one from the sidewalk, here i-80 has been shut down for a huge swath of. it's a big corridor. we're talking maybe about 100 miles up into the sierra's because of all the rollout and spin outs. last, night people were stuck there for hours, because of how much snow has been continuously dumping snow, shut down as we speak. speaking of, yosemite national park shut down many of the ski resorts, areas here shut down as well. there's avalanche warnings because of dangerous and treacherous conditions are, with the advice being from all officials we spoke to, stay off the roads. there's just no reason to travel here when you have this
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happening around the clock. back to you. >> all right, nbc's steve patterson for us. thank you. from one dangerous weather extreme to another, nbc's mora chesky is a canadian, texas, for us by the oklahoma border. morgan, if you will take us there, we are hearing a utility company is being accused now of starting this fire. >> yeah, yasmin. good afternoon. xl is the company that is now the defendant in a lawsuit that was recently filed by a woman in canadian texas who lost her home to this massive million acre blizzard known as the smokehouse creek fire. that's the largest of about four named fires here in the texas panhandle. we have made our way westward from canadian today, and through here outside instead that, texas, where -- that first that this fire took place. this home,, yasmin belonged to choice blinken shift, and she was a beloved number of the community. we heard from kherson, paul,
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earlier this week who you wasn't able to reach his mother in time and it was just waiting so heavily on his heart. there's one of the two confirmed death us the large smokehouse creek fire. the largest fire in texas crister, espn, and you are not seeing any smoke, any flames today, that is good news. what's not good news, yasmin, is the fact that the wind has picked back up, and so has the temperature. that is why everyone is incredibly cautious and looking skyward for any sign of a potential flare up. here's what's tech and sucks governor greg abbott had to say about these ongoing conditions. >> we face enormous potential fire dangers as we head into this weekend. no one can let down their guard. everyone must remain very vigilant. winds are gonna pick back up, the right elements for a fire we'll be around.
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>> authorities say that these fires have caused total damage, total destruction, to at least 400 buildings. right now, yasmin, crews are cutting fire line in certain areas in any potential spreading, but it was a real sense of -- her recognitions al- assad through this weekend, but well into next week. in the meantime, the total losses have yet to be figured out, but we are looking at, as we see, a record fire, likely record lawsuit as well, in an area coming off what was sent a historic wildfire in 2017. so, for a lot of these folks who live in these communities, farmers, ranchers, this is a bit of a fiery dij@ vu here, yasmin. >> morgan chesky for us. morgan, appreciate it.
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democrats agree. conservative republican steve garvey is the wrong choice for the senate. ...our republican opponent here on this stage has voted for donald trump twice. mr. garvey, you voted for him twice... as your own man, what is your decision? garvey is wrong for california. but garvey's surging in the polls. fox news says garvey would be a boost to republican control of the senate. stop garvey. adam schiff for senate. i'm adam schiff, and i approve this message. the 2024 presidential campaign heats up just days ahead of super tuesday. nikki haley, donald trump, both balloting in north carolina
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today. we've heard donald trump is one step closer to clinching the republican nomination for president. the associated press is reporting he won the missouri caucus today. nikki haley is still seeking her first win. we have two reports on decision 2024. i want to bring in shock worcester in michigan. and shock, we should have the results from michigan that couple of hours or so. what are you hearing from the ground today? >> i, yasmin. well, i just spoke to the state party here in michigan, overseeing this convention that is going on today. he's telling me based on the results that have come in from each of the congressional districts, donald trump is on track to securing all of the 39 delegates up for grabs today. again, that needs to be verified. that needs to be cross checked. but based on the results like he's seeing, he's believing it's going to be a very good day for donald trump, kicking it a lot of delegates today. let's step back a little bit, because michigan has had this
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hybrid process. you remember on tuesday, we were here covering the primary. people going to the polls, normal election that we would watch out for, but only 16 of michigan's 55 delegates were allocated based on those election results. the rest of the delegates came from what was going on today. i want you to listen to what we heard from some of the delegates we were talking to as they were going in and casting their ballots. >> i'm a trump fan. again, i do have problems with his personality at times. but we need him. >> i didn't like but white president trump handled himself after the election loss last cycle. i generally agree with most of his policy positions, but i think that some of his character was not what i would hope to see of either presidential candidate. >> and that last delicate you heard from said they were the only person to vote in their
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congressional district room, to vote for nikki haley. just shows you there is some dissension here as delegates are casting their ballots. as donald trump marshes closer to the nomination. >> first and foremost, appreciate it from there. i want to go to arizona, where the abortion battle is ramping up. abortion rights groups are seeking to put a constitutional amendment on the november ballot. nbc's alex tab has more. >> as opponents of abortion but through phoenix, supporters of abortions are gathering signatures. >> this is to get on the ballot. >> right now in arizona, abortion is legal until the 15th week of presidency, with no exceptions for rape or incest. >> the majority of arizona voters agree with us that pregnant patients should have the freedom to make the decisions about the pregnancies. >> slop is a spokesperson from arizona for abortion access. they're working to get a proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot that
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would secure abortion license fetal viability or until the 24th week of pregnancy. it also expands the scope of exceptions. >> we have a robust amount of volunteer signature collections. >> they're gonna need nearly 384,000 ballot signatures by july 3rd. >> the city where your register -- >> but because signatures are so easy to scrutinize in arizona -- >> try to stay within the line, because the challenge is if you go much outside of -- its >> they are aiming high. >> we are aiming to collect more than double the amount of signatures that we need, which puts us in between 700 and 800,000 signatures. >> f of enter team aims to get in portion writes find in the state prostitution, opponents are trying to trade up their own volunteers. >> right now, we have a force of about 950 actual trained volunteers. >> gray is a board member for arizona's right to life. she is spearheading the organizations involved and declined to sign. >> declined to sign! >> a counterintuitive, hoping to dissuade arizonian's from
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signing the petition. one of the grapes with the promotional amendment, the exclusion of exception for abortions after fetal viability and in order to protect the mental health of a woman. >> the concern is that people determining that someone's mental health is an issue when it might be financial, or they just don't want to go through with that. >> for so many voters who i've spoken to, so many arizonans, this isn't a political issue. this is a human rights issue. it's a reproductive rights issue. but after the dobbs decision, given that might be on the ballot come november, it could have huge political ramifications. president biden's struggling here in the grand canyon state. he's down about six points overall dome trump to a recent bloomberg consul poll, but experts have been speaking to on the ground say this abortion referendum should, should make it on the ballot, could provide him a huge boost, a lifeline, as it's expected to bring in an influx of more liberal voters.
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yasmin? >> nbc's alex tab it for us. alex, appreciated. breaking news, everybody, in gaza, help arrives from people starving, but how it's getting there is raising some major questions. there is raising some major questions. gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irresistible scent collection from gain!
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harris has posted and re-posted over 1000 videos on x suggesting the gop is responsible for no border deal, including a compilation of republican seemingly taking blame for the failed talks. >> very important issue for donald trump, and the fact that he would communicate to republican senators and congress people that he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame but biden for, it is really appalling. >> i'm extremely disappointed in the very strange maneuvering by many on the right to torpedo a potential border reform bill. >> it would acknowledge president trump failed, along with republicans, paul ryan and the guys, they failed in 2018 to actually move a border security bill. >> i want to bring in alencia johnson, political strategist, chief impact officer of ten 63 westbrook, former senior adviser to the 2020 biden
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harris campaign. and arena shot, political strategy as a commentator, former senior gop congressional advisor. aunt principle and founder of relax, strategies. welcome, both ladies. so, alencia, started off, if you, welcoming justice after both president biden, former president donald, trump visited the border. what do you make of this strategy here that i just showed? >> i think it's an incredibly smart strategy. as soon as we got word that the republicans were taking cues from donald trump, immediately, i knew they had given democrats a campaign ad the week before, in their own words, they would rather put politics over policy, and listen. what is happening at the border, what is happening with immigration is something that actually one president isn't going to solve. this is a very much decades- long issue that is going to take a lot of policy, particularly by, bipartisan policy. and i think what the republicans did is give democrats a gift of all the
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conversations other having about this being the number one issue, and, yet when they were able to take this deal, they didn't do so. which, to the american people that this is a main priority, regardless of president. >> we know, irene, other spin a surge of independent parts registered voters. amidst the run up to the 2024 election. as i've been kind of out on the campaign trail, talking to folks, immigration has been top of my, both republicans, democrats, and registered independents as well. it's honestly more than i've ever heard anybody talk about immigration before. likely because many of the images now people see on their phones, tablets, whatever it is and wherever it is to get their news from, do you think this type of strategy is going to help with the independent vote, the folks who don't necessarily know which way to vote as of yet or are still on the fence? >> on its face, i really like the biden strategy, of course, of putting the blame on republicans because it's actually true.
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this is a disappointing moment, as you heard senator romney say. we have to be very clear about the facts here. when republicans have an opportunity to accomplish something together with the other side, they are refuting it. then, you know, you've got to be ready for what's to come. i think, essentially, what the biden campaign is doing is smart, but i do wonder if it is a bit late. you know, look. in essence, what you're going to see the trump campaign to, because he is surrounded by better professionals than he was the past two times, that something that has become very publicly. are these people are going to put together visuals of trump in eagle pass talking about the data points, talking about those americans that have struggled with addiction and how those, the problems regarding fentanyl have seeped into communities that are both rural and urban. so, fentanyl remains a problem, but the issue of immigration writ large is not gonna supersede the economic issues, the kitchen table issues of crime, public safety, and, again that pain on the pocketbook. that's what i worry about, yasmin. i have to be very clear here in
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how i talk about republicans these days, because there is that maga faction that wants to continue to drive people to the poll with fears about the biden administration's handling of the economy, as well as crime and public safety, but if we also don't speak to those people, those of us who want to see a pro democracy candidate back in the white house, that are moderates, we've got to talk to those people very, very clearly about the economy as well. i do worry, again, that immigration will not supersede that. >> i want to talk about some of the polling we have out today, alicia, from the new york times college, in which biden is trailing trump 43 to trump's 48. what's more is in asking about the nominees, with trump, 48% are enthusiastic about him being the nominee for president among republicans. whereas only 23% amongst democrats are enthusiastic about biden being the nominee,
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versus the 43% that are satisfied, but not necessarily enthusiastic. this poll goes on to show that he's kind of losing support. the press, at this, among some key demographics, women, black americans, latino voters, as well. i know we talk about a lot of polls week to week, and it really just is going to conduct november, but what do you make of some of the numbers that are coming out of the? >> listen, i think these are very clear indicators to the biden harris campaign honor their strategy should be directed. less than, we're going to super tuesday, we're still in the primary, and i will be very honest, there are still a lot of voters who are not paying attention to the election just yet. that will come this summer. so, ever the optimist that i am, and i have to be to be in political work, this is an opportunity. i think the uncommitted vote during a primary in michigan, it's helpful to the biden campaign. it shows people, it gives them a data point of where a
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constituency and the bases. and yeah, there is this push for a cease-fire from a lot of people in the democratic base, more than just air from voters, but they're also concerned about issues around abortion, effuse around immigration for different reasons, and republicans and so forth. so, i think these polls give us a lot of information to shut where the strategy needs to be between now and november. >> so rina, as we talk about some of the league troubles that donald trump is facing right now, we talk about it in census, right, when it comes to the election. first and foremost is the argument, essentially, jack smith is making, that the american people have the right to see this through before they go and cast their votes in november. the second is what i'm picking up from voters, especially republican voters, some of whom are saying well, i'm supporting, for instance, donald trump and i say, are you concerned about his legal troubles? are you concerned about his 90 plus indictments? and they say well, he hasn't been convicted yet.
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so, i ask them a follow-up, and i say, what if he is convicted? they say, well, that might change my mind. if we don't see a single trial from start to finish, except for the hush money case, how do you think that's going to change the game for him? >> well, this is a lot to unpack, because it depends on which case we're talking about. when we talk about georgia, we see what trump and his team are doing there to fani willis, essentially putting her on trial. that's been a whole lot of wow, that's changed a lot of minds in the circles i've talked to about the r.i.c.o. charges trump faces there. a lot of people had a lot of great faith that would be the case that talk trump down, and i'm talking about moderate republicans here. when you talk about the far- right, those stick to trump and those who will stick to him even passed a conviction, these are the people that, again, we have to be worried about the turnout. who is going to turn out? are they gonna turnout because they feel their person is being unfairly victimized? so, if we see a conviction, i think it could go one of two
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ways. but i put on my face and the convention here. the republican national convention poses the real last great opportunity for any republican that does not want to see trump take the white house back. to steer this election in another way. i mean, there are just unusual headlines every day that aren't even related to trump's legal cases the i think being against trump. for example, trump's team telling d.c. voters, republican voters, if they don't show up and vote in this primary for him, they're gonna banned them from the white house? we talk about a lobbyist class here that these access to the white house if trump is back. and so, a lot of unusual stuff here, again, uncharted constitutional territory in which we don't know what's going to happen. but i just remain hopeful that the, against the convention would be that's place where that discussion is had about another candidate, if the conviction does come down, because that's where i do think we could see a game change. >> rina shah, thank you, alencia johnson, think you as well. in our next hour, folks, donald trump shows up in 14 quota. one of his former attorneys has
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we're following this big news, everyone. u.s. military planes today making the first airdrop of aid into gaza. >> the truth is, aid flowing to gaza is nowhere nearly enough.
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it's nowhere nearly enough. and some lives are on the line, and children's lives are on the line. we won't stand by and let -- until we get more aid. we should be getting hundreds of trucks in, just several. >> this is coming amidst mounting questions over what led to thursday's killing of over 100 palestinians will getting food from aid trucks. the u.s. scrambling to salvage cease-fire negotiations falling on incident. i want to bring in retired commenting general of the united states army, europe, and senior adviser of human rights, lieutenant general ben hodges, talk about this. general, thanks for joining us in the studio. we appreciate. it i want to talk about the effectiveness of using airdrops like this. in a densely populated region, like gaza, in which a lot of folks are suffering. a lot of individuals that are in need, especially after the scenes we saw on thursday. >> well, i'm glad the administration has done this, and this is a capability that
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only the united states has to do this sort of scale. but we're seeing also the limitations, i mean, at the end of the day, if you don't control the ground where the supplies are lansing, it's chaotic, as we have seen. and as typically happens, the people who need the help the most are the least likely to get it, because they're the weakest. so, it is kind of a melee, that's but challenge. i'm glad that they did it, nonetheless. >> do you suspect there was some behind the scenes negotiations between the president and prime minister netanyahu for these air drops to get to gazans safely? >> for sure, as one of the early guests, i think, said, in order to have u.s. air force and jordanian air force aircraft fly into israeli airspace, they would have had to have coordinated with the israeli defense force and the israeli government. so, from a practical standpoint, they would have to do that. >> do you suspect this could be a real flash point for the
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president when it comes to aid and support for the israeli leadership right now? after the scenes that we saw on thursday? another spent some conflicting reports as to how people lost their lives. the gazans are saying it was from the idf. the israelis are saying it was because of the stampede. nonetheless, 100 people have lost their lives. 30,000 gazans have been killed at this point as well, many of them women and children, and now, this air drop from the united states. do you think we're at a real turning point, the administration's, and should be a turning point? >> i think the president is probably doing as much as he possibly can to find this balance between humanitarian concerns, support for israel, holding a terrorist organization accountable, but i don't think he can continue to go with the netanyahu government just refusing to cooperate in any meaningful
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way. >> watch that look like, then? the president continuing to move forward? >> the most obvious thing, of course, would be either reducing or cutting off the military aid, ammunition things that we provide to israeli defense force. sharing of intelligence, perhaps. but also, you've got the united states, typically, ways the protector of israel inside u.n. security council activities. now, that would be, i would hate if we ever got there, but the netanyahu government has done just about zero to respond in any way towards pretty much what the rest of the world is saying that they've got to be part of the solution here, and i'm not seeing that. >> do you think there's any ability to actually eradicate hamas from gaza? >> >> you can kill an awful lot of people, the hamas is an idea. it's a terrible idea. >> ideology? >> right. so, unless you address the root cause of thousands of boys and
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men being willing to join such an organization, unless you can isolate it from support from iran, for example, i don't think you can kill your way out of it. >> when you hear prime minister netanyahu, when you hear benny gantz when you hear is war cabinet saying this is essentially about eradicating hamas, rolling into rafah, next where williams at this point, palestinians, are seeking refuge, having left the north, do you buy it? that that is their objective, and they think they can carry it out? >> i do believe they think that they can do that. i, mean ultimately, this conflict is about lands and the solutions are going to require sharing but lands. fortunately, there are arab countries that are willing to work to move towards a solution. so, it's real probably has the best chance in its history of getting arab support and recognition if they don't throw it away. >> lieutenant general ben hodges, sir, thank you for mi

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