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this weekend, all eyes are on the battle for gop delegates as donald trump wins the republican caucuses today in idaho and missouri. the former president also swept michigan's chaotic and somewhat complicated caucuses, winning an overwhelming majority in each of the states 13 congressional districts. in the end, trump wrapped up the states -- after winning the states primary earlier this week. in missouri, nbc news projects donald trump the, winner of the republican caucuses, when all of the states 54 delegates. over in idaho, donald trump won 32 delegates that were all up for grabs. as for donald trump, he is not in any of the caucusing states today. he's instead on the stump in virginia and north carolina, clearly feeling that momentum ahead of super tuesday. >> over the past few weeks we've been on a rocket to the republican nomination. it's been a rocket.

>> let's not forget about nikki haley. her campaign, also in north carolina today, stumping ahead of super tuesday, despite today's outcomes in missouri and michigan, nikki haley vows to keep charging ahead despite failing to win a single primary contests thus far. >> now is the time we need a new generational leader, that can put in eight years, day and night, fixing the things we need fixed, with no negativity, no drama, no vendettas, just real results for the american people. >> but joining me now, shaquille brewster, nbc correspondent. he is live in grand rapids, michigan for us. shaq, it's good to see you again. so the caucus in michigan was complicated, chaotic, messy. explain to our viewers what exactly happened there. >> well look, it was complicated and messy for two different reasons. for one, the process was going to be confusing, and that's because michigan had a primary on tuesday, but they also had this convention. 39 of michigan's 55 delegates for the republican nomination

were going to be allocated this weekend at the convention. so because they had this hybrid process, that inevitably was going to be somewhat confusing. donald trump, winning the overwhelming share of those delegates. but it was also confusing, because there is a real divide in michigan's state republican party, a divide that really wasn't settled until the past couple of days. there were two different people claiming to be the gop chair. there are two different conventions that were supposed to happen in two different cities for today. that was until a judge earlier this week stepped in and declared that -- p hawks tree. is the actual correct chair of the michigan republican party. i asked him about that divide heading into november, and what that means, and what that what ta could mean. listen to what he told me. >> and, clearly there is going to be some division and hurt feelings but those are starting

to fall back, and people are going to start now saying, we want to win in november. that's what political parties do. they help candidates a their elections. and that's what we will be focused on. >> but his message, despite the court battles, despite the rivaling conventions, he believes that michigan republicans will be unified. and if you at least look at the results, in the delegate poll that donald trump has earned from today, and from tuesday's primary, you can see that this republican party here is really united behind donald trump. ayman mohyeldin? >> all right, shaq brewster, -- this november for several reasons. during tuesday night's democratic primary, more than 100,000 michiganders sent a message to president biden, casting an uncommitted vote in protest of his administration's handling of israel's war on gaza. a reminder, in 2020, biden won michigan by fewer than 150,000

votes, while he still won tuesday night's primary, the uncommitted movement does not stop with michigan. and it will not, until biden shows that he here is the message being sent. as joe nichols puts it in the nation, the message was blunt. biden's presidency could hang in the balance, if he does not pay attention to voters he needs in november. joining me now to discuss this is academy award winning filmmaker michael moore, he is also part of the group listened to michigan, which helped organize the uncommitted push. michael it's great to see you again, thank you so much for making time for us. earlier this week, you said what biden is participating in is something that is killing civilians, and children. more than 30,000 palestinians have now been killed in this ongoing war. at this point, does the president stand a chance of winning some of, those or any of those uncommitted voters. would calling for a cease-fire at this moment be enough? >> no. but, it would go a long way.

i can't speak for everybody who voted, obviously. we organized this campaign, listen to michigan, mister president, please. we organized this in less than three weeks. so, this is the most amazing thing to have happened. over 100,000 michiganders, democrats, i would say the vast majority of whom voted for biden in 2020. to come out and vote, uncommitted, to send that message to the president that not only must there be a cease- fire now, but we must stop, as senator sanders said earlier today, we must stop sending, we shouldn't send another nickel is what he said, in bombs, guns, planes, bullets, to israel, until they stopped this madness. and i think that that is how people felt, going to the polls

on tuesday, or that we needed to send a strong message. now for people listening to those who think oh, why are we throwing the election to trump? i don't know, honest, one thing i think i feel safe saying is that those who voted uncommitted on tuesday are not going to vote for trump. my fear, and the reason why those of us started this campaign, is to basically save biden from himself. because of what he's done, to support this massacre, to fund it, to be the banker for israel in the slaughter of these people. that, he is essentially guaranteeing that thousands and thousands of americans are going to stay home and not vote on an election day. because they're not going to vote for trump. and this is how trump could win, because those, those that

150,000 that he won by in 2020, hillary lost michigan by just 11,000 votes. that's two votes, on average two votes her precinct in michigan, that's it. that's how close this could be. and to have 100,000 plus come out on tuesday and say you know what, our conscience will not allow us to support this. and, if people say well, so does your conscious allow you to let trump win? no, no. what it means, actually to me personally, is that now i've got to double and quadruple my efforts to make sure trump loses. because biden is working against me. biden is working against the democrats. the democrats in michigan, first of all, 75% of the people in michigan, according to the last poll i saw, are, they want a cease-fire, and want the massacre to stop. that's republicans, and democrats. >> so. >> the fact that joe biden isn't listening to the people, it's a sad thing. it's going to hurt him, if he

doesn't change, and change now. and going on tv a couple of days before the primary, with with seth meyers, poor seth. stuck with the ice cream cone, with biden. and, when biden promised that there would be a cease-fire by this monday. i just, from your reporting here on msnbc, that doesn't sound like that's going to happen. and so, what do you we, who don't want trump back in here do at this point? because, and again i can't speak on behalf of the arab and muslim americans in michigan, who voted. but i've heard from enough of them, and i've heard from enough young people of all ethnicities and races, and genders. young people hate war, mainly because they're the ones sent to war, to die in those wars. >> can i ask you about that real quick though.

can i ask you. you bring up a really important point that i want to ask you about. because, how broad is this coalition? there is this perception, certainly some in the mainstream media are trying to portray this as an arab american thing, or a muslim american thing. >> no. >> saying hey, the guy on the -- you tell us how broad is this coalition that is behind this uncommitted vote? who is it? >> listen, i'm going to tell tales out of school here. those of us who were involved and helped organized and promote this on tuesday, the listen to michigan campaign, we were hoping to get maybe 10 to 15,000 votes, that was it. a few people, the optimists, thought maybe 30,000. the fact that it was over 100,000 means it was -- it wasn't just the 9000 people in dearborn, or the other arab cities in michigan, which have an arab american mayor, and an arab american city council.

-- no, this was, of course it was muslims, it was arab americans. but it was also vast, vast numbers of young people, who just said that's, it i'm out, i'm not going to vote for trump, but i'm out of this. if this guy is going to continue the war, if he is going to continue to embrace netanyahu, i will not participate in this. and so you had young people, you had progressives, you had all kinds of democrats, as i said, the vast majority of democrats in all of the polls are against biden funding and arming this war. so, why wouldn't biden listen to this? he wouldn't even acknowledge it, when he won the primary. and thanking the people of michigan, he just ignored the hundred thousand people. if, as michelle goldberg said in the new york times last friday, if he loses michigan, he loses the election. why would you risk that,

president biden? why? this is when you need to be a politician. what you should do is the moral thing, which is stop the carpet bombing, stop the slaughter, make sure aid comes in. don't be dropping aid with parachutes like it was some kind of looney tunes cartoon. you know, you've got 2 million people starving to death, and you are dropping a few hundred parachutes. is that a joke? that like the ice cream, announcing we're going to have a cease-fire by monday? this is not funny. this is not a joke. and the young people of michigan, the people of color in michigan. i mean, in michigan we have what, 13, 14 black cities, majority black cities. detroit, flint, saginaw, -- benton harbor, pontiac. these are african american cities. they don't support this. if they supported biden.

i support biden. we voted for biden, we want to vote for him again. but a lot of people -- and this is what i was saying in our friends in the detroit area, who are palestinian. who have family members who have died in these last, almost five months. family members that have been killed by there -- in dearborn, and detroit, their tax dollars. they helped to fund the slaughter of their -- grandparents and -- of their, cousins their nieces, and i'm just asking anybody who's watching this right now, who is not arab, who is not muslim, if you discovered that the united states, your country funded, and carried out, through the production of these arms that are given to israel, carried out the slaughter of your grandparents, tell me what you would do. tell me how would you vote, or would you maybe not vote at all, and just sit it out because you are so upset, so

disgusted, with the murder of innocent civilians? two thirds of whom are children and women and elderly. you know, i mean these are real people, detroiters, who have lost hundreds of people, who have lost, or have wounded family members, or who are starving to death right now in gaza. i'm just asking you, fellow white people, what would you do? what would you do? and why is there even, why is there an open air prison called gaza, for 15 years? you know, when people are in prison, this cause they've committed a crime. can somebody right now tell me what the crime is that the palestinian people, as a group of people, have committed? what is the crime? because according to my knowledge of history, the enemies of israel, who have been persecuting the israelis, the jewish people of this world who have been persecuted for 5000 years. but for the last 2000 years,

most of the persecution has come from white, european -centric, christians. that's been your enemy. not -- no palestinian help to build auschwitz, no palestinian stood on the docks of new york city win city, when boatloads of jewish refugees tried to escape the holocaust, came here, to be protected by this country, and were turned away from the docks in new york, and sent back to germany to die. no palestinian did, that no palestinian ran the spanish inquisition. your enemy, your enemy is not the palestinian people. it is white christian european people, who have been slaughtering jews for the last 2000 years. and let's just call it for what it is. why are they in an open air prison? why are 2 million of them in an open air prison? and i'm sorry to go on so long, but -- >> no, no.

you bring up so many important points, i know we can talk about this for hours. but i did just want to get your final thought about this. because it is kind of becoming such an important issue. in the primaries. do you think joe biden is gambling american democracy? given the fact that the alternative is a guy who says he's going to be a dictator, is a guy who says he's going to be an authoritarian on day one. do you think donald trump is the threat that he is, and joe biden is gambling by aligning himself closely with netanyahu at the risk of american democracy? >> absolutely. and, gambling by aligning himself with an authoritarian in tel aviv. somebody who is facing a number of felonious charges, who was supposed to stay on trial this past fall, and that all got shoved aside, because now there is a war. and so we can put our prime minister on trial. joe biden, and i'm just, i plead with him, do not put trump back in the white house.

you are, i am not going to be able to go on enough shows on tv, between now in the election, to convince literally millions of young people that you've got to vote, because trump is a bad guy. well, do you know any young people, and those of you watching right now, you should talk to them. you should see what they think about this. and it should frighten you. because, and there's nothing -- you are going to convince your son or daughter, niece or nephew to do the right thing. many of us will do that, we will be out there, we will triple our efforts to help make sure trump doesn't come back in the white house, but why do we have to do? this why can't biden just stop it right now? call for the cease-fire! no more money for armaments to israel! and insists that israel, go to its core. you are the, you are the religion that has always stood for something, that's stood for civil, rights that's stood for

everything. and it's like -- >> i hear you. i know. i sense the frustration in your voice michael. let's hope the president is watching, or certainly somebody around him is watching this, and can get that message to him. it's always a pleasure. filmmaker and host of rumble with michael moore, thank you so much, greatly appreciated, it's good to see you again. >> thank you. -- >> after the break "ayman" continues. thank you. -- >> after the break "ayman" continues. with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement. with nurtec odt, i can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask about nurtec odt. nothing makes a gathering great like eggland's best eggs.

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>> all right, back with today's republican caucuses and conventions in michigan, missouri, and idaho, because super tuesday is our next stop on the road to november. with me now democratic strategist a mishit cross, adviser to the obama campaign. she's now a host that sirius xm. and jennifer horn, former chair of the -- and cofounder of the lincoln project. it's great to have both of you with us. jennifer, how significant are today's caucus results in your eyes, especially when it comes to momentum ahead of super tuesday? >> well, what these results show is less -- momentum, and more just a continuation of what's been happening from day one. so many of us have said it's not just me, the nomination belonged to donald trump before the first primary took place. and what we saw in michigan today. i mean, nikki haley, barely over 2%. and we know there is more action coming on tuesday.

but, there is simply no path for anyone other than donald trump. i think the question, the more significant question is, what do the results of super tuesday, and the fact that donald trump is going to be the nominee, how does that bode for the, people and how does that bode for -- the gop. and in both cases i would say, not well. >> michelle, what, if anything, do democrats take away from today, as they face did this inevitable second matchup between donald trump and joe biden? >> well, this honestly was the matchup that the biden campaign actually wanted to have. so i think that this showcases that trump is still the commander of the republican party enough that is a surprise to anyone but for joe biden and also shows that -- michigan is still competitive. i don't think there was ever thought that it wasn't but in particular has just heard michael moore, and your last segment, i think the coalition

that has been built against what we are seeing happening in gaza right now is a very vocal and expansive coalition. and to be able to really win in a place like michigan, and to remain -- someone who is extremely competitive in that race, he is going to have to find a way to break away that coalition, show that there are some restrictions that need to be applied to the funding that israel has steadily received from the united states. and i think he is going to have to make his call outs against what netanyahu is doing, and what the idf is doing, a lot stronger. >> jennifer, nikki haley said that she is fighting for super tuesday. and with trump continuing to sweep up delegates today, what is the end goal here for the haley campaign? what more does she need to be convinced that she does not have a chance to win this republican nomination? >> well, i came to the conclusion that it's not her goal, at this point, to get the nomination. and she knows that. nikki haley absolutely knows where she stands on this. she knows what the numbers are. i would suggest that there are two pieces to this for nikki haley. the first is, if by some act of

god, the gop decided to abandon trump as their nominee, say at the convention, for any reason. and i believe that there is a 0% chance of that happening, no matter what happens with trump, the party is going to stay with them. but she is certainly position as being the person who stayed in, and made the argument, and could be the person that gets some of that. although if you think about the fact that the party wants trump as badly as he does, they are not just going to turn around and hand the nomination to someone like nikki haley, who has been fighting against him. frankly, i think that nikki haley and chris sununu, and a -- within the party, at 30% too build on, where they can build something going forward, when the 2028 cycle comes around.

>> and ameisha cross, as a former campaign advisor yourself, what would you be saying to nikki haley tonight, if you worked for her from a campaign perspective. is there any reason for to stay in this contest? >> the only reason nikki haley is in this contest as because she was hoping originally that one of those, one of the many court battles that donald trump faces was going to knock him out. but i agree, honestly with with previously said. nikki haley is looking towards the republican party beyond 2024. i think that is that that is an elusive thing to do, honestly. because the republican party has shifted so far to the all all three right -- available. nikki haley, from the beginning, had more of a moderate voter support, she had disaffected democratic support. she never really quake that much with the republican party, because she is still holding on to the republican party of two decades ago, versus the republican party of now. >> yes. >> ameisha, jennifer, please stick around. we've got a lot more to discuss, after the break.

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it's just smarter, healthier pet food. it's amazing what real food can do. i want to show you images of a boy named yesin. you are about to see is hard to take, but it should be. he's ten years old, and suffering from malnourishment in gaza. -- as of today, there are no updates on his condition. in gaza, constant israeli bombardment, displacement, in a near total restriction of aid entry has lead to catastrophic levels of hunger and starvation. the united nations has now -- confirmed ten children in gaza have been officially registered in hospitals, as having starved to death. and the unofficial numbers are expected to be even higher. yesterday, president biden announced that the u.s. will airdrop food and aid into the

gaza strip, and the first came today, and contained about 38,000 meals. let me say that again, 38,000 meals. sure, other countries, including jordan, egypt, france have also dropped aid into gaza. but let's just put this into perspective for a second. there are more than 2 million people living in gaza, most of them displaced, and one quarter are one step away from famine, according to the united nations. in order to get three proper meals a day, gaza's population would need about 6 million meals delivered day, in and day out. so 38,000, just today, isn't going to make a dent. joining me now to discuss this is michael, united nations special rapporteur on the right to food. professor, it's great to have you with us.

do you believe israel is deliberately starving the palestinian population? can you tell us why, if you do believe so, that is the case? >> yes, thank you ayman mohyeldin. every single person in gaza is hungry, and as you said, about a quarter of the population is starving. -- fair to say now we are seeing the deaths of children, that children are starving to death. and -- that israel has been intentionally starving the palestinian people in gaza. if we say the war broke out, this war broke out on october 7th, on october 8th israel immediately shut off all water into gaza. and -- at 75% of water was no longer available in gaza. on october 9th, the israeli eastern defense and it's a complete and total siege against people in gaza. and that's what israel did. it denied the access of food, fuel, and medicine into gaza, for quite a long time.

now, we see humanitarian aid trickling in. but israel is systemically denying that aid reaching the north for most of -- for all of february, and into january as well. and what humanitarian aid is reaching is just a trickle. and this is all through conscious choices. and israeli politicians have announced their strategy, they have imposed their strategy. and now we are seeing the vile effects of this starvation. >> you are at the united nations leading expert on the right to food. can you clarify for us what the right to food is, under international law. and, the extent of israel's violations of palestinians rights to food, since october 7th. how does this compare to other hunger crises you have seen around the world? >> in the simplest terms, the right to food means everyone has the right to access good

food, at all times, that means you have to have food in your markets at a fair price, and it means you have to have access to your land to grow food. it means you should have access to fishing, and hunting. however it is, all people should be able to eat a good meal, feed their families. that's just a basic human right, a basic sense of dignity. this human right, like all human rights, applies all of the time. it doesn't matter if there is a war or not. there are -- many instances where there are wars where people are still able to access good food. and in fact, israel has a responsibility, under international law, to ensure that either it provides humanitarian relief, or enables humanitarian relief reaching people in palestine, excuse me, reaching people in gaza. so what's happening, now, in terms of not just the denial of humanitarian relief, but what's happening is that convoys, trucks that are finally making it through the checkpoints, are

giving their coordinates to the israeli forces. nevertheless, there are reports of those convoys being targeted and shot at by israeli forces. and we know of repeated instances of when civilians are trying to access humanitarian relief, israeli forces are shooting at civilians. and i will add one more thing, from a right to food perspective. israel is not just denying and slowing down humanitarian aid, and killing civilians while they are trying to access their aid. they are destroying the food system of gaza itself. they are destroying farmland, orchards, greenhouses. they are also denying fishers access to the sea. -- they've destroyed over 75% of small fishing fleets. gaza is defined by the sea, it's a coastal city. so not only are they denying humanitarian aid, they are making it virtually impossible

for people in gaza to feed themselves today, but also into the future. -- >> what needs to happen to address this starvation and the hunger crisis. i don't even know if you can begin to say how a society, a place, a people begins to recover from this in the medium to short term. but in the immediate day-to-day survivability of the palestinian people, what must happen? what does the international community must do? because as i said, 38,000 meals dropped on a population of 2 million people, it is not even a drop in the ocean. >> yeah, these air drops are a sign of the failure of the international community. and, israel's denial of allowing humanitarian aid to enter. what needs to happen is an immediate cease-fire, that's it, very simple. an immediate cease fire, right now. and there needs to be unfettered, full access of humanitarian aid to everyone in gaza, right now.

otherwise, this famine is going to happen. >> all right, michael fakhri, thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciate it, and, appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us. >> thank you ayman mohyeldin. >> up next, it is time for worst of the week. a. -- who has gaslight the american people best, over the issue of ivf. issue of ivf.

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which brings us to our first contender this week. mississippi senator cindy hyde- smith, who brought passage of a bill to federally protect ivf. in her objection -- hyde-smith reason that alabama's high court did not ban ivf, nor has any state banned ivf. nor has any state ban ivf. the senator apparently didn't see what happened at alabama clinics after the supreme court ruling. if she had, she would know several clinics immediately paused ivf services. as we've seen time and time again, even if there's not an explicit banning in place, murky, broad decisions like this have a chilling effect. also, -- if her worst of the, week was house republicans who just say they support ivf, without taking real action to do so, such as south carolina congresswoman nancy mace. she introduced a nonbinding resolution to protect ivf on the federal level. the key words here, non binding resolution. because the resolution does nothing more than express strong support for ivf.

same thing with florida congressman byron donalds. he tells nbc news that he, quote, totally supports the procedure, and same with house speaker mike johnson, who defended ivf treatment in a statement. words are great, folks, but why not use their positions of real power to actually enact real change. that's because they don't really want to. just consider mace and donalds alone. they both cosponsored the life at conception act, a federal law recognizing fertilization, or a fertilized egg, as children. in an attempt to ban abortions nationwide. johnson, he too has supported an iteration of the bill. let's bring back my panel to decide who is the worst of the week. ameisha, i will start with you. is it worse for someone like senator hyde-smith to clearly not understand the chilling effects of the ruling? or is it worse for people like congresswoman mace and others, to gaslight voters by saying she strongly supports ivf, while her voting record actually shows something completely different? >> that's a really tough one,

and i'll say, republicans on this go together with hypocrisy like sand at the beach. it's frustrating. and at the highest level, this mississippi, as you know, triggered the overturning of roe v. wade. and at this point, it is very not surprising that you would have cindy hyde-smith, who is taking the role of -- and things to also not act like she knows the true effects of what this ban on ivf to do. not only in alabama, but the chilling effects in other places. i would probably put them neck and neck. but the bigger issue here is that the republicans have always tried to limit a woman's access to choice, and a woman's access to birth control as well. as soon as roe v. wade was overturned, there should have never been an expectation that they would not also go after idf, that they would not go after various forms of birth control. this has always been what they were trying to do. the most interesting thing to me, is that several of these republicans have themselves used ivf to conceive. so i think that there is a double level of hypocrisy. >> that is such a good point.

now jennifer, who do you have? >> well, i am going to go right along with her, and say you can't choose one over the other. there are no hero here, there are no good guys in this conversation. the overturn of roe v. wade is one of those things for the republican party, where it's, be careful what you wish for. it happened, they were completely unprepared for it. and look at the absolute ugliness and destructive hypocrisy, that has grown from that decision now. you know, she's absolutely right. this is not about, about life, this is about control, this is about controlling women. it is about controlling personal decisions, it is about, there is something to me, on top of everything else we've heard, that is very chauvinistic about this. it is about the opportunity, how much more control can we exert over women? in these cases, and that's what

a lot of this is. and it's also a total assault on traditional conservatism. which supports life, supports families, supports growing, and supporting families. and when you listen to someone like nikki haley talk about the extraordinary blessing that ivf has been for her, growing her family, it's shocking to listen to people who claim to be people of faith, people of conservatism, people who believe in protecting life, to behave and respond in the way that they have. >> i mean, let's take a look ameisha, at the nonbinding resolution introduced by nancy mace in the house, that claims to support ivf services. but as i mentioned earlier, it is non binding, meaning it is nothing more than just a formal statement on the record, not even a proposed law. is this a chance for democrats to call republicans on the carpet, heading into november? >> absolutely. and i think that the republicans just keep stepping in, and for lack of a better

term, when it comes to women's reproductive rights. they lost at the ballots -- time and time again when they put ballots up to reproductive rights. and ivf is also among those things. it has shown extremely popular across this country. and as we, know there are already access barriers to ivf, particularly that of money. and i think that for many women who are fighting, and i have friends who have done this, who wanted children more than anything in the world, and we're not able to conceive naturally. they invested, many of which also invested all of their housing, they went into second mortgages to try to make sure that they could create life. so to understand a party that stands on being pro-life, and talks about this all the time, but is willing to take food away from families, reduce s. n. a. p. benefits, push against wic benefits -- i think that's a real problem, in that voters will want to push back. >> jennifer, donald trump says he supports ivf services. but at the same time, he has

hinted support for a 15-week abortion ban, and still brags on the campaign trail that he paved the path to overturning roe. your sense of why he gets away with, it at this point. maybe he won't in the general election, the lie in the primary, at least he gets away with it? and we know that trump is the ultimate car salesman. he does this stick, i guess if you will, where he pretends to be a very conservative to the base, and then tries to pivot away from it when he needs, two on things like ivf and other aspects of reproductive rights in the general election. >> donald trump is a narcissistic chauvinistic, controlling, liar. he's a liar, that's what he, is a liar. it doesn't matter what donald trump says. and i don't know if, i think it's very frustrating to me than any of us talk about him like a regular candidate. what he's saying in the primary, about what he's saying in the general. it doesn't matter for donald trump. the republican party chose

donald trump, in 2020, to be there 2024 nominee. he can say whatever he wants, he does not owe them honesty, he does not owe them integrity. they have already chosen him, for the republican party. looking at this issue, they have got to understand, if god forbid we should ask them to stand on principle and ethics, and actually act upon what they say they believe, as far as families and life go. but this is an issue that could lose this election for them. and frankly, i hope that it does. and we saw in the -- midterms, we are going to see it again in 24, they are underestimating the degree that this issue is going to impact the outcome in the general election, including among some republican voters. when they lose republican votes to joe biden, it's not going to be about any of these big

issues that you have been talking about on the show. it is going to be about autonomy and independents and having a woman be treated like an independent adult. >> jennifer -- horan horn, and ameisha cross, greatly prescientx your insights. >> thank. you >> -- banning women from getting divorced if they are pregnant. are pregnant. pga of america and t-mobile are partnering on 5g-powered analytics to help improve player performance. t-mobile's network helps aaa stay connected nationwide... to get their members back on the road. and las vegas grand prix chose t-mobile to help fuel operations for one of the world's largest racing events. now is the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. with nurtec odt, i can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent

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missouri is home to the st. louis arch, the cardinals, the ozarks and the live entertainment capital of the world. branson. but it is also under one of the craziest laws, one that you would think only existed in the handmaidens tale. and yes it has been on the books since 1973. if you are pregnant and live in the state of missouri, you are banned from finalizing a divorce. even in cases where expecting mothers are victims of domestic abuse. to be fair, it is not just the show me state, where this is law. texas, arizona, and arkansas have similar statutes in place. the obvious first question here is, why is this even a law? well, the crux of it has to do with child support and custody battles, which cannot be solidified until a child enters

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