♪♪ and we are back with another hour of "chris jansing reports." we have breaking news. the supreme court siding with donald trump. inside the unanimous decision and why it avoided one big question. did the former president engage in an insurrection. plus, how trump is reacting to the historic decision.

his new comments outside mar-a-lago as he pushes ahead to a big super tuesday. also breaking, trump's money man in handcuffs, and pleading guilty, what he's accused of lying about under oath. and the man behind one of the biggest pentagon leaks in years back in court. the sentence for jack teixeira has part of a plea deal with prosecutors. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with nbc's ryan reilly who is covering this unanimous ruling from the supreme court. ryan, what stands out in this decision by the court? >> i think really that the court wanted to come to a united decision on this that left no doubt here in terms of 9-0 for the main part of this ruling here. essentially what it means is that on the day of what was supposed to be the first trial for donald trump in the judge chutkan case in d.c., originally as it was scheduled, we have this decision from the supreme court. the idea of states taking the

ballot off the table. it would have been a mess had states been able to individually pull donald trump off the ballot in these various places whether it be in the primary or the general election. it would have led to quite a mess for the country to deal with, so i think the supreme court made clear that they wanted to sort of send a message, a 9-0 decision here that this wasn't the way to go about this question and deciding what the legal questions are around donald trump's comments in the lead up to the january 6th attack. there are still major issues before the court, including the immunity case, which will affect both the case in florida and the case in d.c. that jack smith has brought, and then there's the question of whether two of the charges that donald trump is facing here in d.c. in terms of the obstruction of an official proceeding charge will go forward. there's a case pending before the supreme court about how that's applied to january 6th cases. a lot will be coming down from the highest court in the land over the course of 2024 here,

certainly, chris. >> ryan, thank you for that. nbc's garrett haake is in florida where trump just spoke. what did he have to say, garrett? >> reporter: well, chris, his remarks were kind of all over the map. what we did hear from trump was acknowledgment and gratitude from the supreme court for deciding this particular case both in his favor and quickly. as he so often does, trying to lump together all of the various court cases against him, attacking the biden administration and the various d.a.s and attorney generals around the country who have been trying to prosecute him as essentially trying to knock him off the ballot in a way that voters won't. he was heavily focused on the immunity case, urging the supreme court to defend not just him but as he argues the presidency itself by ruling in his favor there. let's hear what he has to say about the next bing big thing on the docket for trump.

>> i hope the justices, presidents have to be given total immunity. they have to be allowed to do their job. if they're not allowed to do their job, it's not what the founders wanted. but perhaps even more importantly, it will be terrible for our country. >> reporter: mr. trump has tried to make this broad argument that the immunity case is not about him but about the powers of the presidency. that's what his lawyers argued in court. they argued the president could order the assassination of a rival, so long as he was not impeached for it. you see donald trump clearing the ground ahead of the late april argument on immunity. unlocking the trials for both federal cases against donald trump and perhaps the biggest challenge by far as we head into the fall election season, chris. >> garrett haake, thank you for that. coming up in just a few moments, our legal experts weigh in on this historical decision.

first we've got a couple more breaking news stories for you. included a guilty plea from donald trump's long time financial gate keeper, allen weisselberg. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is following that story for us. what happened in court? >> allen weisselberg pleaded guilty to two counts of perjuring himself in connection with the recently concluded civil fraud case that the new york attorney general prosecuted. his guilty plea came in connection with statements he made during a 2020 deposition, but he also admitted in court today that he perjured himself in 2023, during a civil deposition and his trial testimony. all of the testimony considered perjury deals with the value and size of donald trump's trump tower apartment which was erroneously reported on his financial statements as having 33,000 plus square feet. the actual size of the apartment is about 10,000 square feet.

weisselberg said he wasn't aware of that at the time that he was involved in reporting that. that was found to be not credible, not only by judge arthur engoron, the civil judge who oversaw that trial, but based on his perjury plea, allen weisselberg knew it wasn't true when he said as much. >> lisa rubin, thank you. now to msnbc's tom winter who's covering the guilty plea from pentagon leaker, jack teixeira. what kind of sentence did he get? >> a lot less than the 60 years he potentially faced if he was convicted on all six counts of willfully withholding and getting classified information. basically here he came to an agreement with prosecutors saying that up to 16 or perhaps even a little bit more than 16 years in jail is the sentence that prosecutors will recommend. the lowest that a judge could go is 11 years on this. ultimately it will be up to a judge to decide. he does save that long prison sentence, not that 16 years plus

is short. one of the conditions or a couple of the conditions of his plea agreement here today, chris, is going to have to debrief the intelligence community, the department of defense or the justice department on exactly what he did, exactly what he took, and also provide them any materials he might still have. you might remember from our discussion last week, there were a number of things that he actually destroyed that fbi agents found when they went to execute a search warrant. so i think they want to know just the totality of what he took, the totality of what he may have disseminated and make sure there are no classified documents under proverbial rocks. but this case, as far as the government is concerned, is over sentencing. ahead in the next couple of weeks, and then the judge will ultimately determine what that penalty will be, and obviously there remains ongoing questions as to exactly who he's been in contact with, and we know from the air national guard's department of inspector general, looking at this, that a number of people have also been reprimanded for their role or

lax oversight of teixeira's activities. chris. >> what was their key argument in terms, tom, of the damage they say that this leak did? >> it's extensive. it's one thing for foreign adversaries to know this is what the u.s. knows about. sometimes it's more helpful for foreign adversaries to understand how does the u.s. know that. you look at the type of information that may have been included in these documents. if you were a foreign country like russia, and we know that russia and ukraine and that war has been part of the things he took and disseminated. when you look at that, you look at the types of things that were taken. you might try to figure out how the u.s. knew about it, and might come to some conclusions. that can be damaging as to the u.s.'s technological capabilities and can be damaging if the u.s. has sources or people spying on behalf of this country in foreign governments. so those are the types of things that can be just so damaging

about these types of leaks, and i think it's why prosecutors really wanted to get to the bottom of exactly what did you take, and what are on those damaged hard drives and computers that we may not be able to recover at this point. >> tom winter, thank you. in just 60 seconds, we dive back into the major premium court decision, and the issues that had one supreme court justice breaking from the past. does it signal that the court can still surprise us. can still. and prevent my migraine attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. talk to your doctor about nurtec today.

feeling claritin clear is like... ♪♪ is she? playing with the confidence of a pro and getting all up in that grass as if she doesn't have allergies? yeah. nice. the supreme court decision to keep donald trump on state ballots goes down in history as unanimous, but there is a split. 5-4, over whether the court should have brought congress into the ruling. conservative justice amy coney barrett siding with the three liberal justices against her conservative colleagues saying they went too far by ruling the only way for the 14th amendments insurrection ban to be enforced is if congress passes legislation first. i want to bring in former senior

investigative counsel for the house select committee to investigate january 6th. also with us, president and ceo of the national constitution center, jeffrey rosen. he is author of the new book "the pursuit of happiness how classical writers on virtue inspired the lives of the founders and defined america." jeffrey, help us understand the importance of this split. >> this split is significant, and the most important thing is that the liberals feel that the court went so far that they quoted bush v. gore and the majority's decision in dobbs, the abortion case. they say they quoted justice briar as saying what was done should have been left undone. they quoted dobbs saying if it's not necessary to decide, it's necessary to not decide. it's right to kick him off the ballot for states but for courts to go beyond that and say no federal court could ever decide

he's guilty of insurrection violates the original understanding and text of the constitution, and that's why it's significant that justice barrett joined. she's an originalist and textualists, and she feels her conservative colleagues were violating those principles. >> at risk of overanalyzing this, do we look at this split as saying, you know what, the justices can look at cases dispassionately. they can come to a unanimous decision on something that is politically charged. they can also disagree and in an era where we think the left is so far from the left, and the right is so far from the left, you can have a conservative justice who sides with progressives. >> yeah, i think if you're looking at the narrow point of judge barrett. how do you look at the five men and write that i mean came down upon this. i think it's encouraging that you had the four women saying show restraint here. that's not what the court has done. the court in one way should some

restraint by not commenting on the issue that's most important, which is to me, whether or not the former president was in fact an oath breaking insurrectionist, which our committee demonstrated to the american people. and then the court decided to go really far and more aggressive and basically limiting the potential relief that anyone can get to get president trump or anyone else off a ballot and saying only congress can do this. if jack smith charged the president with seditious conspiracy, and he was convicted, that wouldn't be enough. if a federal judge held a trial or hearing and found the same things the supreme court did, that wouldn't be enough. it's only congress, and frankly in the political climate we have, that effectively means the court has said that the former president will be on the ballot no matter what he, in fact, did. >> let me ask you, then, because you are somebody who has pored over so many details of what happened on january 6th. you yourself have spoken to dozens of witnesses, right, who were involved with the january 6th committee.

and i'm wondering when you heard this decision today, wasn't a surprise, right? we expected this. but if you think that there are farther reaching implications, then a lot of people will look at and say, you know what, these ballots, donald trump is going to be on them. okay. let's move on with the election. >> i think we shouldn't be doing that, right? i think this opinion does not get to the substance and core, and what i think really matters to voters. and what should matter to those who care about democracy, which is whether there was an attack, a rebellion led by a former president against the constitution, all in violation of his oath. the evidence unquestionably supports that. that's exactly what he did. and it is telling that you had a court here over the five male justices who were willing to be aggressive on his behalf. what they couldn't do is get to the substance of the question. you see no opinion where they defend him, and frankly, in his underlying briefing, the former

president said he did not engage in insurrection. the only answer the evidence supports is he didn't engage in insurrection. >> i want to bring in "politico" white house bureau chief, jonathan lemire. you know, justice barrett made a point about what she hopes the country will take away from teed's ruling and i'm going to quote that. the court has settled a politically charged issue in the volatile season of a presidential election. particularly in this circumstance, writings on the court should turn the national temperature down, not up. for present purposes, our differences are far less important than our unanimity. all nine justices agree on the outcome of the case. that is the message americans should take home. do you think that will be the take away? >> no i would say the odds of this turning the temperature down are pretty slim. this is such a partisan issue. there were a number of democrats

who had reservations about the idea of a single state removing donald trump from the ballot. they felt perhaps this was a matter for the supreme court, and i think others are waiting for the court's decision on presidential immunity. we know that donald trump believes it should apply as well. bringing in seal team 6 to go after a political opponent. most legal scholars don't think the justice will agree with that. the fact that they agreed to take the decision and run the clock is seen as a political move, one helping donald trump. the highest court in the land has become more politicized. the biden campaign's perspective here, we know the trump side, victory lap. they think this is exactly what happened. the biden campaign was never counting on this. not this matter, not any of the legal cases facing donald trump, the criminal cases, and right now, we believe only the one in new york will happen before the election. they've never thought that the criminal cases would swing this

election. they feel like they're going to have to beat trump on the campaign field. >> does it offer us any clues? do you see anything here that would suggest anything about the immunity decision that we know they're going to have to do? >> the fact that they're going to go so far in immunizing president trump from any kind of accountability, even as we were discussing, if he were convicted of insurrection. far from being sensitive to the timing of the immunity decision, they might well, not ruling for him on immunity. legal scholars don't expect that, but slowing walking it, saying the lower court should engage in further fact finding, making any possibility of a trial before election day impossible. the liberal justices felt the court was bending over backwards to protect president trump. >> no immunity case before the

november election, you don't think? >> i mean, it could. it's dependent on the court's schedule. and, again, he's not going to be found to be immune, but actually completing a trial by november will be tough. >> agree, i think it's very unlikely. >> and on that note, unanimity of opinion, thanks, guys. it's great having both of you here. appreciate it. is the biden coalition fracturing. some 2020 supporters of his are jumping to trump. aware going to speak to south carolina congressman james clyburn about how the campaign is working to keep voters that won them the white house four years ago. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. jansing reports" onlony msnbc type 2 di? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it.

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a warning sign for the bind campaign, a "new york times" poll shows the president is losing some of his 2020 backers to former president trump. while trump is winning 97% of those who said they voted for him in 2020, biden is down to 83%. with 10% of voters who jumped ship saying they now back trump. but in a new interview, president biden remains defiantly confident of his reelection. he told the new yorker, quote, i'm running again because i think two things, number one, i'm really proud of my record and i want to keep it going. i'm optimistic about the future.

and secondly, i look out there and i say, okay, most of what i've done is just kicking in now. joining us now, james clyburn of south carolina, national cochair for the biden-harris campaign. always good to have you on the show. i wonder as i read that quote if the president, is it a possible miscalculation to be an optimistic candidate when polls show a strong majority of the people you're trying to convince to vote for you don't feel that optimistic right now? >> thank you very much for having me. the whole country is in a sort of pessimistic move. those of us who are dedicated to the proposition that we are in pursuit of a more perfect union, but really concerned about a supreme court seem to be complicit in the efforts to derail that journey.

we are concerned when we have a court that is turning back the rights to vote. alabama, the 59th year that we celebrated of that bloody sunday. and to listen to some of the -- a federal judge whose daughter served in congress for ten years, a republican, by the way, talked about what was going on in alabama back in 1959 and cited one county where zero african-americans were registered to vote and 100% of white americans were registered to vote. these counties were right next to the county that the supreme court just used, shelby county, alabama, to get rid of the most cogent mark of the act of 1965.

i talk to people that says, you're not doing anything to fix voting. well, the reason we need to fix voting is because the right wing supreme court undercut the voting rights act that was given to us by president lyndon johnson. democrats have been given the rights. republicans are doing everything they can to take away the rights, and we aren't getting much help for setting the record straight. if you set the record straight, then we don't have a problem. but when we don't have the proper reporting of who's doing what, who's not doing what is a problem. what we are trying to do in the biden administration is trying to work double time to overcome what seems to be an undercutting of joe biden's record because how could you possibly say that

you haven't done anything for african-americans when you got african-american unemployment at the lowest rate it's been in almost 50 years. the first time you see us closing the wealth gap, from the first time you see us being able to negotiate to bring the prices of medicine down. people keep talking about gasoline prices. they're going down. i don't hear anybody talking about gasoline prices going up. but i heard them every day talking about when they were going up. that's what we're up against here. this is not the first time. i studied this all my life. i study it almost daily. we'll be working on some historical things tonight because i know that this has happened before, and i'm trying to find ways to overcome this problem hopefully we will before election day. >> i think it's worth pointing

out as you talk about the undercutting of the voting rights act, just a couple of days ago, a study came out and it found that the racial turnout gap is actually widening as a result of the undercutting of the voting rights act, and i want to play what vice president harris said. you just mentioned this. while marking the 59th anniversary of bloody sunday in selma, alabama. here it is. >> freedom is fundamental to the promise of america. and today we know our fight for freedom is not over. because in this moment, we are witnessing a full-on attack on hard fought, hard won freedoms, starting with the freedom that unlocks all others, the freedom to vote. >> so understanding that a study has now quantified how the undercutting of the voting rights act is impacting the racial divide, what can you,

what can the biden campaign do about it between now and november? >> that's one of the things we're working on. i don't understand how it is that these justices, at least six of them can look at this record that you're now talking about, and say that we no longer have a problem voting in this country. i don't see how you can listen to the tape recording of the president of the united states calling upon state officials down in georgia to find me the folks i need to win this election, and say we don't have a problem in this country. we do have a problem with voting and within, i mean, days of the supreme court getting rid of

that formula that kicked in, section 4 of the voting rights act. within days, we saw states all over this country, making it more difficult for people to register and to vote. how can you say you stand for a democracy when you undercut the foundation that a democracy is built on. and we're having a real significant problem trying to get over to people that joe biden is not doing this. we didn't blame biden for ruling against women. so when the supreme court rules against blacks and voting, everybody blaming biden for that. so that's what the job he's got to do here is put the blame in the proper place. and expose the voting public to

joe biden's record, which is the best record for black americans in this country since the great society of 1965. that is just a fact. and it's very clear. and the problem we've got is no matter how many times we say it, i remember when we were talking about joe biden and whether or not he was keeping his promise on the elimination of student loan debt. $140 billion of debt elimination and i talked to people that says joe biden did not keep his promise on debt elimination. why? because one part of that was challenged in the supreme court. the supreme court ruled against joe biden, and everybody reported on that part of it, and nobody reported on all of these people who were getting their debt eliminated and then going forward. we see the record for the next four years, another 75,000

people will have their student loan debt eliminated under this program that joe biden's got. i don't see anybody writing about that. and so we are at the mercy of people reporting the facts. not reporting all the re-tweets that go on. and we know that so much of what is out there on the internet is just not true. misinformation, disinformation, soon will be overtaking the whole political process, and that's what's causing us the problem that we have in the country today. when i talk to the people down there at salma's foot soldiers, we call them, they know the deal, and they keep asking me. why is it that people will not report the record that we know is there for joe biden. one lady said to me. my daughter got $30,000,000 in

-- $300,000 in debt eliminated and nobody talked to her. >> congressman james clyburn, fired up for his candidate, good to have you on the program. >> thank you very much for having me. senator majority whip john thune is in, the second senator to announce he will be in the race to replace mitch mcconnell as republican leader. nbc's ryan nobles is on capitol hill following this for us. what are we hearing from senator thune today? >> reporter: well, chris, we were begging john thune to tell us his intentions over the past couple of weeks. he waited until he was back home in south dakota and talked to reporter dan santello about his plans. he wants to run for republican leader in the senate. i listen to what thune said about this upcoming challenge. >> do you want to be senate majority or minority leader? >> i hope to be, and i'm going to do everything i can to convince my colleagues, they're the voters, they're the ones who ultimately make the decision,

but that as we look at a new generation of consistent, principled, conservative leadership in the united states senate that empowers our senate republicans that put the check and balance against the schumer, what has been a very liberal schumer/biden agenda, i'm prepared to lead that effort. >> reporter: senator john cornyn of texas has given his intention, saying he plans to run for leader as well, and there's a couple of other republicans who could also throw their hat in the ring. this is going to be a while, chris. the current minority leader mitch mcconnell said he will step down a until after the november election. what's interesting about john thune's place in all of this is john thune recently endorsed donald trump for president of the united states. he initially endorsed his colleague tim scott for that job, and thune's had an uneven relationship with donald trump. he has blamed him in part for

what happened here on january 6th. and he also has pushed back on trump's claim that he actually won the election and not joe biden. he was pressed this this interview about that particular topic about whether or not he could still vote for trump despite the fact that he claims to have won the 2020 election. he was going to let the process play out and republicans pick their nominee, and he was going to support the republican nominee. this will be just the first of what will be many announcements, the second of many announcements in a hotly contested race for a republican leader in the senate. >> buckle up, ryan nobles, thank you. right after the break, we'll speak to chef jose andres, the founder of world central kitchen. his team is on the ground in rafah which israel is promising to invade. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports"c that means your priorities are ours too. our retirement tools and advice can help you leave a legacy for the ones you love.

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program. these air drops, chef, as you know, have generated some controversy. some people argue they're inefficient, they're dangerous, expensive, even humiliating for the gazans. as someone who works intricately in this space, how do you see it? >> well, myself, i've been one of the persons that i have been pushing for air drops. so i will say that right now i will not dare to speak on behalf of the people of gaza. but because i've been there, and because i know people there, i would say that people are actually very happy to see those parachutes, but you mentioned at the beginning of my introduction. this is only a drop of water in a notion of me, but it's a necessary need. so right now, let's concentrate in every way that we can be bringing more humanitarian aid,

more food, more water, more medicines. by road, by air, and if we can by boat. the people of gaza need all the help they can get. i'm very happy that the americans joined the efforts of abdullah of jordan, when he was the first one doing the small air drops to cover the needs of his hospital. in this moment, more is more. >> it is heartbreaking. some would even say inhuman when we see what is facing the people of gaza. you see them trying desperately to get whatever feed they can. we've seen reports of gazans eating animal feed to survive. sometimes it's not even enough of that to go around. so share with us, if you will, what you've been hearing from your team members about the hunger now and the desperation. >> well, we have a total of 63

kitchens. sometimes one or two kitchens are not able to open for different reasons that have to do with the confrontation going on inside gaza. we're doing almost around 300, 350,000 hot meals a day. obviously in the places we are especially in rafah, those kitchens are able to be covering, used daily needs of the families in the different camps, surrounding our kitchens. we are able to have kitchens all the way to the middle part of gaza. south of gaza city. and we're very proud of that work, but again, much more is needed. the big need for the last many weeks has been always in what is gaza city and everything else even north. obviously it's needed all around, but especially in the north of gaza is very difficult because the war that is

happening and because people are in need. so when you say come, boys, you come north to cover the needs of hospitals, of temporary camps. the people will stop those strikes, and you strive to stop them to grab the food on their own. therefore, you cannot have a sustainable, organized humanitarian aid in the north because the entire system breaks before. that's why right now we must be massive. we must be massive. again, more tracks need to go in. more openings to access gaza in the north. must be allowed by israel. we need to be doing more air drops especially in the north. and let me tell you. we need to be thinking an opening on the maritime route. we need to be arriving to the beaches. that's why a few weeks ago i announced we had ha boat in cypress, because we have been pushing to arrive to the beaches

of gaza because, again, the situation is really so dire. >> and you mentioned that your organization has been feeding people in rafah where most of the displaced gazans have been sheltering. israeli prime minister has vowed again and again to invade the city, saying it's an essential part of israel's war of hamas. he plans to move the civilians elsewhere in gaza. we have seen what happened in the past with the inability to move the gazans. is your team preparing on the ground for that. how dangerous is the day-to-day situation for your organization's people, and for other aid organizations who were there. >> well, obviously the many many members of u.n. has lost their lives. it's the war zone. our shootings and our bombs are randomly falling, and everybody, civilians in wars, they are the

ones that always suffer the most. that's why it's important, obviously, the cease fire hopefully will happen anytime, and that no more civilian lives. i hope the hostages of israel should be made free. people in israel, many people will argue they should be free, that no civilian anywhere in israel or in palestine should be dying under armies shooting at each other. more important, that food and water should be a universal right, and obviously my part is always every time i hear there has been a massive bombing, my heart goes to everybody because i'm hoping that obviously no humanitarian, no civilians have perished. the situation is complicated. we have been in ukraine for two years. some of our kitchens, they were hit. we lost unfortunately some of the volunteers in ukraine. war is something that shouldn't be happening anywhere.

countries should not be invading countries, and more important civilians always should be protected. let's hope that common sense happens sooner rather than later and that the people obviously of palestine will have what they deserve, which is to be treated with dignity. to make sure that food and water not be an issue and start thinking soon one day of reconstruction. >> women, children, men, should not be starving to death. you, your organization, are saving lives without a doubt. we shall see what the politicians do. jose andres, always an honor to have you on the program. thank you for what you and your organization does. and we'll be right back. ack. postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can build new bone with evenity®. ask your doctor if you can do more than just slowing down bone loss with evenity®.

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we have breaking news in the fulton county case. this is where some of the codefendants in that case want to get d.a. fani willis tossed off the case. and if that happens, likely her entire team would go. so there's this new motion that was filed. in it david shaffer says he's offering the testimony of a coke chief deputy and district attorney of cobb county by the name of cindy lee yager. she was testifying to conversations had between fani willis and terrence badley, and she said the relationship began before wade was hired. now, that's at the heart of what we just saw with a whole series of hearings out of fulton county.

you heard them live here on msnbc. here's the most important thing. cindy lee yaeger said she was meeting with bradley in september when he got a phone call from willis, saying they are coming after us. you don't need to talk to them about anything about us. this was in response to an article about how much money wade and his partners made from the case. now, it's not even clear if this motion will be considered given the fact that, and again, you heard this live on msnbc, the closing arguments in this hearing were given at the end of last week at which time the judge said he would give this consideration and have a ruling in the next couple of weeks. so let's see what happens. but again, in a new filing, offers the testimony of a cochief deputy d.a., saying she would testify to conversations in which they say the relationship began before wade was hired by willis to be the

special prosecutor. we'll keep you posted on that breaking news. will tomorrow be nikki haley's last stand? well, even after notching a primary win over donald trump in d.c. over the weekend, the polls suggest that tomorrow's super tuesday contest will bring the former president within striking distance of the delegates needed to win the nomination. now haley is saying she's no longer bound by the rnc pledge to endorse trump if he is the nominee. >> are you bound by the rnc pledge? >> at the time of the debate, we had to take it to would you support the nominee, and in order to get on the debate stage, you said yes. the rnc is now not the same rnc. >> so you're no longer bound by that pledge? >> i think i'll make what decision i want to make. that's not something i'm thinking about. >> ali vitali is covering the campaign on the ground. brandon buck was an aide to speakers john boehner, and is

now an msnbc political analyst. what's happening with nikki haley today, and what more are we hearing from her? >> reporter: she's continuing her barn storming of the super tuesday states, doing this sprint to the potential finish anyway. haley has sort of left the door open on what happens after super tuesday. we won't be seeing her tomorrow. instead, this texas rally is the last thing on her public schedule. that of course begs its own questions, but when you listen to voters, they are clear in wanting to keep her in this race. they're clear that they want an alternative, and what's unclear is whether or not they actually come back into the republican fold in the after math of a potential haley drop out. but otherwise on the campaign trail. haley reacting to the news out of the supreme court that keeps donald trump on the ballot there. that's what she wanted to happen. she's talking about it now. >> the supreme court ruled today that donald trump could stay on the ballot.

no, i think that was important. we don't ever want some elected official in a state or anybody else saying who can and can't be on a ballot. this is america. this is america. look, i'll defeat donald trump fair and square, but i want him on that ballot. >> reporter: so backing up the former president on this for the reasons that haley laid out there, but unclear that haley is going to be backing him up if or when she gets out of this race. >> we had a lot of breaking news today, and i only have time for one question, hoping to make it a good one, which is this. if you're in the room with nikki haley and she's not making any appearances tomorrow, it's super tuesday, for heaven's sakes, does that give you any clues, and what are the pros and cons of her staying in the race as you see them? >> reporter: that really depends on what she wants to do with her future. that's really probably what they're debating. she has not sounded like a

person who is just going to come back into the fold, endorse trump, however cringe worthy that might be, and become a good soldier. this sounds like someone who is trying to move in another direction. now, i think she needs to real estate -- realize that this is the party for quite a while. if donald trump loses, she could swoop in there and become the new face of the party i don't think is realistic. i think she's probably wrestling with her own sort of moral judgment right now. do i want to just go along to get along and if i don't, do i want to try to lead another movement. i think that's a very tall task. i think that's a very long road. does she feel like she has to be a part of it. there's not a big divide in elected republicans. everybody is lining up to be donald trump's vp. they understand that this is the direction that we're heading for a long time. i think that's the ultimate choice she has to make. do you want to go out with your principles, do you want to go out saying, you know, i stuck to my guns, and i'm prepared to lead a long fight into the future. or do i just want to be a party

person. and that's what the rest of them are doing. i hope she sticks by what she truly believes. that's ultimately what i'm looking for tomorrow night. >> brandon buck, ali vitali, thank you both so much. that's going to do it for us this hour. joining us on "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right after this short break. break you can cuddle and brush that hair off. bounce, it's the sheet. breathing claritin clear is like... (♪♪) is he? confidently walking 8 long haired dogs and living as if he doesn't have allergies? yeah. fast relief of your worst allergy symptoms, like nasal congestion. students... students of any age, from anywhere.

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good to be with you, i'm katy tur. call it a concurring dissent, the big news out of the supreme court's colorado decision wasn't so much that all nine justices ruled to keep donald trump on the ballot, which was expected but that four justices, including amy coney barrett said the majority had gone too far that what the court only needed to do was decide whether states had aut