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"chris jansing reports." at this hour, joe biden said watch me, and they did. can the president keep the momentum going after a in-your-face state of the union. georgia split screen, biden and trump preparing for dueling events in one of the year's critical swing states. what we're hearing from voters there. plus, even as he's facing trial for keeping classified documents in his bathroom and other places, donald trump could soon be getting intelligence briefings. we'll tell you why. and the ticking clock on tiktok. angry users flood congress with calls as a bill that could ban the app gains steam. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. well, we see a split screen in georgia tomorrow, and president biden and former president trump hold dueling campaign events. nbc's blayne alexander is in gwinett county, one of seven counties our nbc news politics team believe will help determine the election in novel.

what are you hearing from the voters you're talking to today? >> reporter: you know, chris, what's interesting, i spoke with a lot of voters this morning, and you talked about the state of the union address. none of the voters that i spoke with actually watched last night's sate of the union. so i found that interesting in and of itself. of the people i talked with, all of the them tell me that when they voted in 2020, they did, in fact, vote for president biden, but two of them tell me they're not so sure this time around. they're either leaning toward third party candidates or they're planning on staying at home all together. i spoke with one whom who says she spent time in 2020 and 2022 knocking on doors for president biden back then, and stacey abrams and the gubernatorial race. she's not enthusiastic this time around. she hears the same things from people she also volunteers with. here's what i heard this morning. take a look. >> reporter: so i want to get it

straight, both of you guys voted for president biden in 2020. now you're both leaning toward third-party candidates if you vote at all? >> it just kind of seems like we need something different than older white cis gender men in the office. >> reporter: what's kind of moved you into that unsure category? >> basically the fact that he has tacitly been supporting the occupation of israel. >> you're wanting a cease fire. >> absolutely. >> reporter: so a lot of the things that i heard from people. i heard that was one certainly, one big issue that was moving voters. another thing, chris, the issue of abortion. i asked one woman, she told me she didn't vote back in 2020. she said she couldn't bring herself to make a decision between trump and biden. i said, well, we're faced with the same two candidates now. i understand it's important to

cast a ballot to have a voice, but she says abortion is something that sticks with her. she says it's important to, in her words, protect life, but she also knows it goes on a case-by-case basis. she wants a candidate that reflects that duality of voters. while they are not as excited about president biden as they were in 2020, one woman i spoke to said she still is planning on going out there and convincing some of her friends to do the same as well, chris. >> blayne alexander, thank you for that. nbc's monica alba meantime is in pennsylvania near where president biden will take his campaign message on the road today. after that state of the union. so, monica, how is the campaign talking about keeping the momentum going? >> reporter: well, chris, when it's not an election year, after the state of the union, typically the president goes on the road to sell his ideas, his legislation, things he wants to see still accomplished in the rest of the term. but this one takes on very new

and different meaning because we have this general election match up set now, and that is what campaign is trying to do with their event today here in the philadelphia suburbs. and in particular, you're going to hear the president take his message from last night even further. last night, he was very clear and he was really abundantly references his predecessor, and we all know who that means, but he wasn't saying donald trump by name. he wasn't doing that. today, here by contrast, you are going to see him do that. he will be talking about that in more campaign style rhetoric, even though last night he did get close a cup of times. here's a sampling of that on one of the key themes of the night. >> i must be honest, the threat to democracy must be defend. my predecessor and some of you here seek to bury the truth about january 6th. i will not do that. this is a moment to speak the truth and to bury the lies. here's the simple truth.

you can't love your country only when you win. >> reporter: so the state of the union is always an opportunity to try to tout some of those accomplishments from the first three years. but really, the other half of it, and what i'm told is going to extend into his event today, georgia tomorrow, new hampshire on monday, is this bucket of if you reelect me, here's what the next four years will look like. here's the future vision, here's what i will do versus what a donald trump administration could look like in 2025 and beyond. so that will be the message here, chris, and folks i was talking to about that, they told me they desperately want to see the president take it to donald trump more intensely, more fiercely, more often. so that is what campaign is hoping to do with this event here in a critical county that will be, of course, essential to determining who wins a battleground like pennsylvania in november! monica alba, thank you. meantime, donald trump will likely soon be receiving

sensitive national security briefings despite his impending trial for mishandling classified documents. ken dilanian is covering that story for us. republicans would argue, ken, that president biden was also found to have classified documents he shouldn't have. is the difference here unlike trump he hasn't been charged with anything, and in any case, do we know if there was ever any hesitation about providing this to donald trump? >> there is certainly concern, chris. you're right the special counsel found that even if joe biden wasn't the prosecute, he wouldn't have been prosecuted for what he did. in contrast, mr. trump has been prosecuted. more than that, chris, remember, mr. trump has been accused of revealing classified secrets about nuclear submarines to an australia businessman, this was reported by "the new york times" and others. and this information is reportedly in the possession of the special counsel. so not just possessing classified information, but disclosing it, where it shouldn't have gone, and he did

that when he was president. he tweeted out a classified satellite photo. he has a history of cavalier classified information. what biden officials and intelligence officials concluded is they can't withhold classified briefings from the republican nominee. there's a tradition in the country since 1952 that the nominees of the major parties get these briefings, and it would really cause more harm than good by withholding them. it could sour even further mr. trump's relationship with the intelligence committee, and if he was elected president, that could be a huge problem. mr. biden could be accused of politicizing the problem. one thing former officials tell us is that these briefings do not involve sources and methods. they're not at a particularly high level. there isn't a huge concern that mr. trump could reveal secrets after getting the briefings. nobody inside the intelligence community is thrilled about briefing a person who's under indictment for mishandling classified information, chris. >> ken dilanian, thank you. tiktok users are flooding

congress with banning the popular app is gaining momentum. nbc's brian cheung has more for us. brian. >> the action down in d.c. yelled igniting a social media fire storm with the house energy and commerce committee advancing a bill on a get this 50-0 vote for legislation that would effectively ban tiktok. the way that this legislation works if passed is that the chinese parent company, bytedance, which owns tiktok would have to divest or sell that tiktok business within six months of passage or face a wholesale ban on use of the app within the entire country. now, tiktok responded to this by putting a notification on their application asking people, millions of users to call their long congressional representative to say vote down this legislation once it reaches the floor. take a listen to what some creators are saying after that bill passed the committee yesterday. >> we don't want this to happen,

right. if you haven't yet called your representatives, please do. >> i myself spent two years building a business that will shrivel and die should social media be banned. >> in terms of next steps, house majority leader steve scalise says he plans on advancing the bill as soon as next week. this could move very quickly to the senate and ultimately on to the president's desk where the white house has hinted that they would support this bill. the national security council spokesperson telling nbc news that they see this as a good next step. so very much an interesting and fast moving bill that could really make a lot of social media users quite upset. so we'll have to see how all of this develops. >> upset may be an understatement. brian cheung, thank you. when we're back in 60 seconds, the former president opening his home to a european strong man. is it a sign of what's to come if trump wins back the white house? house?

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former president donald trump is meeting with hungarian prime minister viktor orban at mar-a-lago today. a man who's been called the ultimate 21st century dictator for the way he's chipped away at democratic institutions piece by piece. orban is on a dubious list of strong men trump has praised calling him a strong leader, as he labeled russia's vladimir putin, a genius. and saying that chinese president xi jinping is brilliant. given trump's bromance with men like orban, do they provide a blueprint if trump wins a second term. i want to bring in nbc's garrett haake. michael beschloss is an nbc news presidential historian. garrett, this is happeningless than 24 hours after trump labeled president biden a threat to democracy. now he's meeting with someone who much of the world believes is a threat to democracy. what can you tell us about this meeting? >> the timing may be

coincidental, but the bromance as you described it is not. trump has long admired viktor orban for the way he operates in his country. orban is sort of a celebrity figure on the far right, the most popular european leader on the far right in this country. he's skeptical of multilateral institutions. he's critical of the eu of which hungary is a member, he's critical of nato of which hungary is a member. trump looks at orban and sees some of the authoritarian governing style he would like to have if he could do it in the american system. don't take my word for it. here's how trump has talked about orban in the past. >> a great leader in europe, viktor orban, he's the prime minister of hungary, he's a very great leader. very strong man. some people don't like him because he's too strong. it's nice to have a strong man running your country, probably one of the strongest leaders

anywhere in the world. he's the head of hungary, and he runs it properly, he runs it strong. >> reporter: one other bit of context about the relationship, orban has done something unusual for a foreign leader, endorsed donald trump saying america needs donald trump back. you don't usually see that from foreign heads of state. donald trump loves an endorsement from anybody, including viktor orban. >> he does indeed. . i want to remind folks not just what donald trump has said about these men, but what he has done. breaking every security and diplomatic protocol, having a private conversation of vladimir putin. no record of that talk exists. trump called xi so often, the chinese leader reportedly said he did not appreciate being treated like a mid level official. he shook the hand of course of kuhn, while stepping into north korea, a country that amnesty international says has not contemporary parallel. and hosting orban who ass "new

york times" writes has relentlessly squeezed the space available for critical voices in his country. is trump, as some critics have suggested being played or do you worry that he is using these guys as a model for the kind of leader he would want to be if he win as second term. >> using them as a model and commanding them to the american people. we heard in garrett's excellent report, donald trump praising orban repeatedly which he has done and continues to do. he invited him to his home in new jersey no 2022, and of course mar-a-lago today, we don't know what other kind of meetings there have been between trump aides, trump go-betweens and orban go-betweens, but for someone who has said, as donald trump has, if you elect me, i will be dictator for a day, and i can't think of a dictator in history who has stopped at being a dictator for a day, orban will

probably be there for life. orban is the model for how a leader comes in to a system that has a lot of institutions of democracy as hungary once did and turns it into a dictatorship. it's what we're on guard against in the united states. >> he is not doing some of the things that say, vladimir putin is. he is not arresting americans and charging them with treason. he is not murdering his enemies, poisoning his enemies. >> at this juncture. >> the crackdown on media and controlling the message is the complete opposite of everything this country stands for but to your exact point, from your comments, to what i just said, it is in many ways a warning, right, a first step potentially. >> we all have to make a judgment. every voter in the united states. which is when donald trump says he wants to be a dictator for a day, when he talks about

suspending our constitution, weaponizing the department of justice, the pentagon and the police to retribution against trump's political enemies in the united states, is this just joking as i guess some people think it is, or is he serious? well, i would say if i were donald trump, i would not invite orban for a meeting at my home in palm beach which turns out to be just after becoming the presumptive nominee of the republican party without trying to send a message to americans, yes, i'm serious that i want an autocracy if i'm elected and also, this is even almost more dangerous, send a message to countries like hungary, other countries perhaps like turkey, perhaps other countries in the world that secretly or not so secretly, the leaders would like to see donald trump elected this fall, is this an open invitation to help him get elected in american political campaign,

interfere in our system in a way that for most of american history has been absolutely out of bounds. >> michael beschloss, thank you so much. appreciate you coming on the show. >> thank you, chris. coming up, out of the kitchen and into the frying pan, the bipartisan backlash of katie britt's response to the state of the union. >> the american people are scraping by while president biden proudly proclaims that bidenomics is working. goodness, bless his heart, we know better. re ulcerative colitis. it wasn't always this calm uc went everywhere i did. wondering when it would pop up next was stressful doing a number on my insides. but then i found out about velsipity a new once-daily pill, not a steroid or biologic, for adults with moderate to severe uc. velsipity can help calm the chaos of uc — it quickly treats flares providing a chance for lasting steroid-free remission.

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she was rumored to be on trump's vp short list, but today alabama senator katie britt after her intense republican response to the state of the union, which she delivered from her kitchen. >> right now the american dream has turned into a nightmare for so many families. the true, unvarnished state of our union begins and ends with this. our families are hurting. our country can do better. president biden's border policies are a disgrace. this crisis is despicable.

mr. president, enough is enough. innocent americans are dying, and you only have yourself to blame. >> as "the new york times" put it, with a sunny inviting smile, senator katie britt of alabama welcomed americans into her kitchen on thursday night. many soon backed away nervously. ashley parker is "the washington post" senior national political correspondent and an msnbc political analyst. matt gorman is a former senior communications adviser to senator tim scott's presidential campaign. okay, matt, i want to show you some of the headlines. a lot of moms can't see themselves in katie britt's kitchen. and katie britt's america sounds scary but not as scary as katie britt. and they get less favorable from there. was this as bad as the headlines suggest, matt? >> i don't think it was as bad as some of the headlines suggest. i think in general this is the

problem with these responses after the state of the union. no matter who they are, it is such a dissonance from a crowded room where everyone is cheering for the president, at least the party. oftentimes everybody. the president is telling how strong the union is, and you have to flash to usually a very quiet place and have to play a different message. you're almost in a way being set up to fail in a lot of respects. for both the left and the right, the last ten, fifteen years have been littered with people who have had trouble really comparing to the grandiose speech that the president just gave. i think that's what you saw here. >> let me raise another question because i absolutely agree with you. i don't know why anybody honestly would do a response, republican or democrat, because it seems like a losing proposition, but i want to play a little bit more of the senator's response talking about

joe biden. here it is. >> we see you. we hear you. and we stand with you. i know you're frustrated. let's be honest, it's been a minute since joe biden pumped gas, ran a car pool, or even pushed a grocery cart. >> i mean, there are things you could legitimately, matt, criticize the sitting president for. i think if your candidate is donald trump, not having pumped gas or pushed a cart in a grocery store, probably not your strongest arguments? >> i think a couple of things. i think this is what we're seeing now. i think it's going to be a competition between the two parties. what was more anchoring is kitchen table issues. david axle rod saying the biden

campaign needs to be talking more about. biden started with last night, democracy, obviously with ukraine and here at home. you're going to see this kind of battle, is it democracy, is it more kitchen table issues between the two parties. in a way, it's setting the table in many respects for what we're going to see over the next however many months in the fall. >> former trump white house communications adviser, alyssa farah griffin made a more serious point. republicans decided to put her in a kitchen for one of the most important speeches she's ever given, adding, i don't know who needs to hear it but women are allowed to be in places other than the kitchen. it does beg the question, what they were going for with that backdrop because pre-response wasn't part of the reason they chose her to appeal to the suburban moms trump needs to win is this. >> that's right. they made clear one of the

reasons they chose her is because she is a suburban woman herself. i believe the only republican senator, she mentioned early on in her rebuttal, school-aged children. they did want her speaking to that audience, speaking to moms, suburban women speaking about kitchen table issues, so the kitchen was a deliberate choice. it may not have been the best choice. the other channel i remember is i was watching one line that stuck with me. she sort of said, you know, i know you're like me. you're lying awake at night, wondering how you can be in three places at once and get dinner on the table. on the one hand that's a very real concern of every parent that could resonate. on the other hand, in a republican party that has struggled with women and women's rights and issues of reproductive freedom and sort of treating women as if we are in the 21st century, maybe the wife doesn't need to get dinner on the table. maybe her partner could do that.

maybe her husband could do that. it did feel a bit like a throw back in a way that the party is not necessarily going for. >> katie britt wasn't the only rebuttal arguably that fell flat last night, ashley. donald trump's web site appeared to i don't want to say crash, a lot of people on it seemed to be struggling at various times. what he did post was a lot of memes, provably untrue or at least not quite true statements. did he have any success at distracting from biden's big night? >> you know, it reminded me of what matt was saying, how giving a rebuttal, it is unequal, you are set up in addressing a full chamber of congress, and in the same way, he had trouble with his platform crashing. his platform, it should be

noticed is not a major social media site the way twitter might have resonated a couple of years ago. he's mainly try to, and in this case, in moments unsuccessfully because the site was crashing, trying to speak to, you know, his base who was already with him. and compared to a president, even one who's struggling in the polls, delivering a state of the union as an incumbent with all the trappings of a presidency with him, what donald trump is doing felt small and was just not equal to what president biden or any president is able to do in the moment of a state of the union. >> just the start of as i have said so many times in this hour, the long estrogen election campaign. we'll be speaking again, ashley parker and matt gorman. in the meantime, have a great weekend. still ahead, the startling new report on the gunman who killed 18 people in maine and what a scientific study is revealing about his brain. plus, voicing their frustration and fury, what families of the uvalde shooting

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family members of uvalde

school shooter are outraged after a report put no blame on police and defended their actions despite the 77 minutes they took to breach a classroom and confront the gunman, even as children were calling 911 begging for help. that shooting of course left 19 children and two teachers dead. here's what happened when the former detective who wrote the report tried to leave in the middle of the presentation to shocked families. >> bring him back. >> why did he leave? why did he leave? >> at one point, a parent confronted the report's author with a child who has survived the shooting. urging him to look him in the face. >> i want you to look at this child. because this child survived. this child was shot. and he sat in there for 77

minutes. >> uvalde city council members tell nbc news they did not know what was inside the report before it was presented. new analysis commissioned by maine's medical examiner concludes that the shooter who killed 18 people in lewiston last year had a traumatic brain injury. it is just the latest in a fairly new but growing body of evidence tying crime and violence to damage in the brain. robert cart is repeatedly exposed to low level blasts as an army reservist, which likely played a role in symptoms of declining health. ptsd and brain trauma, one-third of veterans report a history of arrests compared to just 1/5 of the nonveteran population, and the odds rise among veterans with brain injuries. there are similar warns about

contact sports. nfl player, phillip adams who shot and killed six people in south carolina before committing suicide in 2021 was found to have had an unusually severe form of degenerative brain trauma. as a study in psychiatry reduces, brain injury is a risk factor for earlier and more violence offending. joining me now dr. alexander phillip at went worth douglas hospital and nbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. doctor, you have not studied these individual cases but generally how much do we know about how repeated brain trauma can impact behavior, and is our knowledge of it at least growing? >> sure. well there certainly is a growing body of evidence where, you know, it seems clear that there is a correlation between people that have various extents of traumatic brain injury, with

or without this degenerative process, cte, but there seems to be an association between, you know, an increased risk for mood disorders, attention and behavioral. as well as, of course, headaches and fatigue and dizziness and all of these things. but i think we also have to remember that correlation does not necessarily equal causation, and we don't really know, or certainly i don't know as a physician all of the details of this case. >> i'm wondering, though, because in these two cases that we mentioned, these traumatic brain injuries were affirmed postmortem, right, so they were able to do an autopsy. they were able to study and see specific things. are we at a place where there are things we can do while people, for example, there were folks who warned about this army reservist, that he was having issues, that they believed it

might be related to his ptsd. are there things we can do premortem or see premortem that at least can serve as warning signs if not absolute predictors? >> sure. well, i think part of the care plan for these patients is not only neurological evaluation but psychological and neuropsychological evaluation where we are able to assess, you know, the needs of each patient. what if someone might be struggling and is somebody exhibiting concerning behaviors. i'm not sure what kind of care or routine medical care mr. card was receiving, but in our clinic, for example, we follow our tbi patients not only for headaches and fatigue and memory but also for mood and sleep disturbances and irritability. the technology that we have in terms of the clinical testing

that we have, you know, mris and cat scans, we can't really see what we see postmortem on autopsy in terms of, you know, the detail there. and i don't know, you know, if this gentleman had any imaging, if he did, i haven't seen it. i haven't seen the actual postmortem slides. what i understand from the statement is that there is white matter disruptions, which is actually quite a broad, you know, a vague descriptor. i'm not saying that this is not the case, but there are many things that can affect the white matter of the brain, multiple sclerosis, smoking and vascular risk factors. it's really hard for me to comment exactly on this particular case. i haven't seen it with my own

eyes. but i think it's really difficult to with certainty say this autopsy finding was absolutely the cause of what, you know, what ensued in this tragedy. >> i wonder, danny, then, if this is the kind of argument we have seen at all as a defense that somebody had ptsd, had a traumatic brain injury. i can hear on the prosecution side, a doctor like this saying the truth is we really don't know. the truth is we can get some indicators, you can't draw a direct correlation. >> there are two major ways this kind of thing would come into a criminal trial. one thing would be after a verdict of guilty in the mitigation phase, the sentencing phase. i put whatever i can as a defense attorney, before the judge to get any kind of mercy i can. anything that falls within the rules of evidence and even stretching it when i can. anything to generate sympathy.

to that extent, this kind of evidence is not only already being used in criminal trials, it's been used for a long time. >> successfully? >> with differing results. you never really know what piece of your mitigation, sentencing, for example, strikes a judge. you just get a sentence. you can't really say one way or the other, this person has evidence of trauma or otherwise. you get a sentence. you don't get a review from the judge. on the other hand, where we will see this play in is in the liability phase. in other words, with the defense of insanity or diminished capacity, and the challenge, as we just heard, is that many of these diagnoses are simply not available using current technology until postmortem. they can't be diagnosed during life, and during life is when we're prosecuted in criminal court. but, you better believe this will become part of insanity defenses. by the way, insanity is very

rarely used and it's very rarely successful. for that reason, a lot of people who may have an insanity defense might try to go a criminal trial without using it. it's that unsuccessful and has been for a long time. you essentially have to admit the crime but say it was excused because you suffered from some mental disease or mental illness. there are many different tests for insanity as well, which leads to a patch work quilt of application and success in the united states. >> danny cevallos, it's fascinating stuff. thank you for being here. doctor, thank you as well. in a surprise move, the fda has just pushed back its approval decision deadline for a very closely watched alzheimer's drug. it was originally expected to be approved this month, now the fda wants an independent panel of experts to come in and look at its safety and efficacy. a late stage trial had shown that the drug can significantly slow the progression of alzheimer's but the treatment

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the airline industry has been facing a slew of problems, just a few recent incidents this morning in houston, a united airlines plane ran off the runway at george bush intercontinental airport, no injuries there. it came hours after a tire fell off a united boeing plane shortly after takeoff in san francisco. the falling tire smashed car windshields and dented a fence. that plane landed safely. the faa is investigating.

we also now know that the ntsb and its investigators are looking into stuck rutter pedals on the boeing 737 max 8 aircraft that landed in new jersey last month. the pilot had trouble steering after landing. those mishaps all follow the door plug that blew out of the alaska airlines boeing 737 max 9 jet in midair in january. just this week, the ntsb accused boeing of withholding key details about what happened there. i want to bring in nbc senior aviation correspondent, tom costello. fortunately, none of these incidents was anyone seriously hurt. you know, if you're a glass half full person, you might say, yeah, but, right? how concerned should the flying public be? >> i think a couple of things are happening here or several things. first of all, everybody is on a heightened state of awareness and vigilance because of course we've had so many issues with the 737 max 8 and so as a result, all eyes are on anything

that has to do with the max 8. you mentioned the plane that went off the runway today in houston. normally that would get barely a mention on the news, but because it is a max 8 and because it appears to be a landing gear collapse, that got everybody's attention today. and they are still trying to figure out why that happened, and can they get the plane off the runway. the runway remains closed. as for the event yesterday that happened in san francisco with the 777 taking off, no similarities with these two planes, right? the one yesterday, 22 years old, the one today, relatively new max 8, and yet tires are not supposed to fly, fall rather off any plane. so you've got to wonder. that simply should not happen that tires and wheels are coming off of the landing gear. that's not a boeing problem per se. at that point, that becomes a united airline problem and they're investigating. then you mentioned the rutter issue. yeah, the concern now is they

may have identified another problem with the max fleet, the 737 maxes in terms of a stuck rutter, and they claim that they have identified it and fixed it on the affected united plane. the question is whether any other airline may have the same. so on the one hand, it's great that they're identifying and catching problems. on the other hand, as you could see, somebody could have been killed by the falling tire yesterday if the parking lot. thankfully no injuries at all from any of these incidents this week. >> tom costello, i'm flying next week if you could fix all of this by then, that would be great. >> i'm going to work overtime this weekend. >> tom, always great seeing you. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. chub to the rescue. the insurance giant