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minutes ago, my msnbc colleague jonathan capehart sat down for an interview with president biden and asked him about of the israel hamas war. play the clip, please. >> what is your redline with prime minister netanyahu, do you have a redline? for instance, would invasion of rafah be a redline ? >> i'm never going to leave israel. the defense of israel is critical. there's no redline i'm going to cut off all weapons so they don't have the iron dome to protect them. but, there's redlines that if you cross, you cannot have 30,000 more palestinians dead. as a consequence of going after hamas, there are other ways to deal with, to get to with, with the trauma caused by hamas. the first time i went over, i

sat with them and i sat with the war cabinet and is it don't make the mistake american-made. america made a mistake. >> jonathan capehart will have more of the interview in the next hour and we will get a reaction to this in a moment from congressman roy connor. and, presented by nan and donald trump are now officially set for a historic presidential rematch. they spent their last four years preparing for this. and, a uniquely nasty campaign find in a time of deep national division. this week, the president did what he could to bridge says divisions in a very strong state of the union address, asking for a second term to finish the work of his first condemning the republican party remade in trump's image and wanting at, warning about the dangers of another term for his predecessor. he should be hobbled between

court battles in multiple states, one of which just required him to post more than $19 million in bond. this week, trump shed the last of his primary challengers and he is on the verge of clinching the gop nomination as early as tuesday. the candidates are ready but are there basis energized? that is my question tonight on politicsnation. plus, as the nation rides high on strong job numbers, the president still just had to sign another last-minute spending bill to prevent a shutdown. but, an even bigger deadline looms in two weeks with israel, ukraine funding and our southern border in the mix. how long can this continue? let's get started. joining me on set, congressman, democrat of california and a member of the biden/harris 2024 campaign national advisory

board, i have a lot to talk to about, congressman connor. first, your reaction to what president biden said at the top of the show. >> reverend al sharpton, i am here to speak tomorrow at saint lukewarm church by bishop green. there is a growing movement for a call for a permanent cease- fire and release of all hostages. >> and join in that. >> i'm appreciate with the president said in standing with israel. we have already funded israel in the iron dome of funding. what we are talking about having consequences that if netanyahu doesn't allow the eight, if netanyahu goes into rafah, we need to stop shipping the offenses weapons. the is a real newspaper haaretz reported 100 times to get a message and has given weapons that are you being used to

kill palestinian men and women. this needs to stop while netanyahu is defining the president of the united states. >> i repeatedly say you, i, however can be anti-tran31 without being anti-semitic. this is not against israel. many israelis, in fact, most in some polling, is against netanyahu. but, as we will have on the politicsnation show tomorrow, i have the former prime minister of israel naftali bennet and we will talk with him. vermont, we heard apprehension from many voters about a rematch between president biden and donald trump, who you are stumping for as a member of his campaign's advisory board. now that the rematch is officially here, i fear the next eight months will be brutal and negative, with the nation historically divided and democracy in question if trump wins.

voters who are concerned with institutions but with issues, how does the biden campaign instill hope in addition to warnings about another trump presidency? >> i thought the president did a fantastic job of doing that on thursday night. he said, look, give me another four years. here's what we are going to do. we are going to help you with your housing payments so people can get a house. he will help with rent because we understand rent is too high. we will tackle childcare and we are going to help raise wages for the working class. we will bring manufacturing back. he understands people are still hurting and he has a forward- looking agenda that i thought he did a great job articulating on thursday night. >> we've got another round of nominating contests on tuesday, including georgia, where both candidates are right now. president biden is set to speak in the next couple of hours and donald trump is already holding a campaign event. georgia played a key role in president biden's 2020 victory.

and, in trumps effort to overturn that victory and primary victories there and a few other states may clinch the nomination for them both. what are your thoughts on that, congressman? >> one of the reasons that we one georgia was the economic working-class agenda. by the way, the reason that we one was the stimulus checks. president biden is saying going to put checks in the working families pockets again. that is of the child tax credit is. it is a check for working families that they can use to help pay for their kids. trump is going to provide tax breaks to the very, very wealthy. that message, i think, is to get through and he needs a broad multiracial coalition that came out for him in the past to come out again. >> now, more than 32 million people watched this year's state of the union. and, it followed the presidential race finally narrowing to this expected rematch. finally we are seeing that.

given president biden an opportunity, i feel, to help his administrations victories while taking indirect shots at trump and director shots, at that matter, at congressional republicans in thrall to him. at this stage of the race, even a strong state of the union might not be enough to sway undecided voters. we've talked about driving the base. now what about reaching the independence, what needs to happen for him to do that? >> he has to place a clear choice. he is the person who's going to stand up for a woman's rights, a right to an abortion, reproductive rights. donald trump wants to move the country back 50 years. he is the one who has common sense views on gun safety.

donald trump is in the pockets of the nra. he's the one who is for working families and the middle class. donald trump has always been for the very wealthy. he is the one bringing manufacturing back, donald trump did nothing. the trade deficit with china was up under donald trump. hunter biden, it is coming down. he needs to put the facts out there. >> i was glad that he pointed out that the actual day of the state of the union was the anniversary of bloody sunday, the march across the bridge in selma about voting rights where blacks were beaten for marching for voting rights. he brought up voting rights and called for the passing of the john lewis bill. i marched across that bridge last sunday. congressman ro khanna, the president signed off on a package to fund a third of the federal government for the next six months. this was a date after the senate voted to avert a possible shutdown with only hours to go. but, with two weeks to fund the west, there is still considerable distance between democrats and republicans. with the ongoing deadlock over the southern border and funding for ukraine and israel, what do you expect to happen leading up

to march ? >> i hope we get the budget done. let's be clear, the president made a deal with the previous speaker, mccarthy. this was all supposed to be agreed to. the president has kept his word. the republicans have been backing off there's through the great leadership of the president and hakeem jeffries. this is the only time, and seven state of the unions, the only time with the republicans didn't stand up for almost anything. they wishing to stand up for the great john lewis. it was the height of hypocrisy, they stand up for john lewis but the cause of his life, voting rights, they don't stand up when it comes to honoring and passing the john lewis voting rights act. >> very quickly before we run out of time. in your home state of california, congressman adam schiff is now the democratic senate candidate after a narrow win in this week's primary. right behind him is republican challenger steve garvey, who

adam schiff will face in a november runoff. adam schiff's campaign made it a point to go after steve garvey rather than his democratic challengers, which some say weekend their campaigns while elevating steve garvey and enabling down ballot republicans to over perform in our bluest state. are you concerned that this primary strategy may backfire in the general election? >> i was proud to endorse barbara lee. i will now we behind adam schiff. what will help the turnout is donald trump on the top of the ticket. we are going to have democrats turn out in record numbers. we have to win four seats in california and i think we can do that. and, we are going to have to rally around adam schiff, who is now our nominee.

>> all right, thank you for coming in studio, being with us. give my regards to bishop johnny green in the morning. is a board member of hours. congressman ro khanna. joining me now is a lee saunders, president of the american federation of state, county, and municipal employees trade union. nice to have you on the show again. lee, i might also, lee is a member of our national action network. i want to start, lee, with the last job report that just came out for the month of february. it shows 275,000 jobs were added. that is nearly 80,000 more than what analysts were expecting with unemployment clocking in and out at 3.9%. what are your thoughts on these numbers and the overall strong start of 2024? >> it shows we are moving in the right direction. and, the president has developed the programs necessary to support working

families all across the country. that is increasing jobs. i mean, if you look at the number of jobs created since his candidacy, since he became president, it's a little bit over 15 million. he's doing a great job as far as increasing the number of jobs and we have to continue that momentum into the election. >> now, i know you had a specific interest in the state of the union address. one of your union members, a 911 dispatcher, rick montoya, was there as a guest of congresswoman norma torres. he grew up in garden grove, california and, the son of a 17- year-old single mother and never imagined he would be sitting in the capitol building during the state of the union address. so, i want your reaction to president biden reflecting on the state of the economy during his speech, basically highlighting progress ahead of an election, which will test voters confidence in his

academic leadership. take a listen to this. >> americans come back is building a future of american possibilities, building an economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top down. investing in all-america and all-americans to make sure everyone has a fair shot. we leave no one, no one behind. >> no one behind. as the head of one of the biggest unions in the country, are you satisfied with where the economy is right now? >> well, we still have work to do. i don't think that we could have had another president like joe biden, who has had the success that we all have had as far as the creation of jobs, as far as moving money into state and local governments with the relief plan. as far as developing new infrastructure programs and

projects across the country. as far as supporting the average working man and woman in this country. joe biden has done that. he will continue to do that. we still have work to do, obviously. people can't forget that. we also have to recognize the successes that we've had so we can build on the successes and move forward with the work that we've got to accomplish in the future. >> i want to push you there. i want to quote an op-ed from my colleague stephanie ruhle. she writes, "while wages have gone up, from a behavioral economic standpoint, people often credit themselves for getting a raise, but blame the government, and especially the president, when life costs more. that's the predicament biden finds himself in going into the election." do you agree with that? >> i would think people are not satisfied with their wages and with their benefits, the best thing that can possibly do is to join a union and not point fingers at anyone. i believe that joe biden has

been successful in moving this economy forward. we've still got work to do, as i said. he is a strong believer, a strong believer in the power of joining a union. and, you know, those statistics now show that 67% of the american public believe the union draft is necessary in today's environment. and what is a better percentage is 88% of young people believe unions are absolutely necessary. i would say if you want satisfied with your wages and benefits, join a union. >> now, at the end of last year, there were 22,000 more like service jobs in the nation than in february, 2020. just before the pandemic started . now, i know that your organization celebrated black history month with an event underscoring the importance of public service jobs for workers of color. can you highlight why this is a win in your view? >> well, first of all, we need help in the public sector. our numbers have been down for quite a while since the great

recession. and, people are overworked. they are tired. they aren't seeing their families because of working overtime. we developed a program to staff the front lines working with employers, with the governors, with the state legislatures and with layers to be creative about advertising, the fact that there are jobs available in the public sector. as far as the african-american community is concerned, public service and public sector jobs are the pathway to move into the middle class. in many cases, those jobs are unionized and organized across the country. my family, for example, coming from cleveland, ohio. my dad was a city bus driver. and, he was a proud member of

atu. in cleveland, the bus drivers, the postal service, and the steel and auto plants. a lot of black families were able to move into the middle class because those were good paying jobs with good benefits. and, guess what ? they were all represented and they had a union. so, black families can take advantage of that and they have taken advantage of that. in the public service, we know that there are a lot of black employees, african-americans who rely and depend upon public service but they also work in public service. we have to continue to increase those embers. >> very briefly, i went to memphis this past week to speak at the funeral of a former inmate. and, i know that you guys have a podcast called "i am," it is about reflecting on the historical memphis sanitation strike because i always go by the site there as you see on the screen, where martin luther king was assassinated and he was in memphis marching with your union for sanitation workers. tell me about the podcast and what this means, "i am." >> the podcast just perfect what the sanitation workers were going through in 1968 when

1300 african-american sanitation workers went on strike because the city was treating them like slaves, essentially. they didn't have benefits, good benefits. they didn't have good wages. they had a union, 1733 of afscme and they decided to go on strike. you are very much aware of this because you joined us in 2018 to honor and celebrate the 50th anniversary of that march and the strike and dr. king's involvement in that movement. so, we've got to never forget where we have come from. that was an important piece, an important part of american history. and, so, in the podcast, we are talking about what the sanitation workers did. and, how they reacted to the injustices that they faced. and, we can't forget what they,

what they went through. we can't forget about them standing tall and carrying those signs that said "i am a man." that still continues, that struggle, in many communities across the country. we have to remember our history to understand where we are going. >> all right. we keep saying the struggle continues but the victory is certain. lee saunders, president of afscme, thank you for being with us. coming up, president biden looks to win support from black voters in key states ahead of the next primary. we will talk about it . we will be right back. ight back. with it's pressure absording layer. time for a bite! if your mouth could talk it would ask for... poligrip. y'all wayfair makes it so easy to create a ihome you'll love.. it's the talk of the neighborhood. kelly! i just wayfair'd. -that's wayfair... saving time saving money. you wayfair'd your whole bathroom?! even the vanity - when i wayfair, i wayfair ya know? oh i know. this is nice.

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biden/harris 2024 national advisory board. governor, thank you for joining us tonight from georgia. i know you are at the event so i'm going to speak louder so you can hear me. they few days out from this, a few days out from this democratic primary and you will be joining president biden on stage behind you in atlanta in the next hour or so for a campaign event targeting black political veterans. we understand that the president will announce new endorsements from the three largest political groups representing asian-pacific, lack and latino communities, the latino victory fund, collective pac and aapi victory fund with groups making a commitment to mobilize communities of color ahead of the november election. what else can you tell us about

it? >> i can tell you the energy is real. i'm having trouble hearing the questions. it is exciting. what we are seeing is we are watching how people are unifying behind the biden/harris ticket and seeing that results matter. when we talk about 40 million new job since this administration has come on board. the lowest unemployment rate we have seen under their demonstrating. it shouldn't be laws that just after the date of the union, the president decided to come spend time with small businesses, to spend time with black-owned businesses, latino owned businesses, aapi businesses. that is how he chose to come spend as, to talk about issues of work, wages, and will for all of our communities and not just some. people are energized and excited and we can see why because results matter. >> staying with the biden campaign, the biden campaign

has prioritized recapturing ground lost with black voters, targeting battleground states with black support. this could be a deciding factor. as a member of the campaigns national board, do you get the sense that black support will finally consolidate around the president now that amy met with donald trump is unofficially set and he continues to say, in my opinion, racist things, governor? >> i can tell you i think black support is going to consolidate around the president because the support of the black community has always been a parody of the president. the president has always made our interests a priority. is the only black governor in this country, as only the third elected black governor in the history of this country, we have seen in our state the important of having president biden and vice president harris as a leadership team, where we now have going on five straight months of some of the lowest unemployment in the entire country. since i've been governor, we've announced tens of thousands of new jobs. we are doing this in partnership with the biden/harris administration.

so, i see that the black community will mobilize behind this president because this president has always mobilized behind the black community. >> now, i know it is not your state but republican primary voters in north carolina nominated the states lieutenant governor, mark robinson, to become their governor in november. robinson, who has a laundry list of comments disparaging the civil rights movement as crap and a communist plot, who is also argued for reparations but suggested that it is black americans not oh them to whites, blaming the trans- atlantic trade largely on africans and in a resurfaced video from 2020, he said, and i'm quoting "i absolutely want to go back to the america where women couldn't vote." given that you are one of the three black governors this nation has ever had, as you just said, what does it say to you that this is a tar heel republican who is black running to run

their state. >> to continue his ignorance is staggering and, it is really unfortunate that we have a major party who has nominated this as their standardbearer. the thing i would say is when i was elected as governor of the state of maryland with more votes than anyone in this state of maryland, we were rounded up behind me. it wasn't because i was black, it was because we understood the issues. it was because we focus on things like economic empowerment and work and wages and wealth. it was because we understood the importance of fighting to understand our history and our history is not something that should be banned, our history is something that should be celebrated. that is the reason the black community rallied behind our campaign. and because of what i looked

like, it was what we should four. when people ask me are you astounded by having a black governor in north carolina, this guy, my answer is absolutely not. if you do not, if you are not willing to fight for our community, you should not be rep sending our community and i don't care what you look like. >> clearly people in maryland, white and black felt you were presented their communities. people like larry young wouldn't have given you any shorts and i know you know that. you have to stand for something. out of all the priorities the president laid out thursday, which resonated with you the most as a governor and make you most want him back as a partner in the oval office in november and beyond? >> i think the big thing is the president is focusing on economics. if you look at what is happened in our state, since i have been governor, when i came on board, we were ranked 47th and momentum. maryland has jumped 20 slots in economic momentum, making our

economic force one of the fastest growing in the entire country. that has been intentional. it has been done in partnership with the biden administration. his ability to focus on work and getting more people employed, focus on wages and taking sure that there's no reason for a person to be working a job, in some cases, multiple jobs and still living at or below the poverty line and focusing on wealth, homeownership, increased liquidity for small businesses, giving people the ability to pass something off to your children besides that, the ability to own more than you owe. the president is focused on economics in our communities and not just for some but for all. when we have a focus in our state and we say leave no one behind, that means it is able to happen because we have a president of the united states willing to be a partner in the work. >> governor westmore at the scene in georgia with the president. thank you and good luck in the rally tonight. coming up, trump called this gubernatorial candidate "martin luther king on steroids." i tell you what i call him in

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this week, republicans in north carolina nominated mark robinson, giving him the chance to be the states first black governor. considering only three black governors have ever been elected in u.s. history, i would like to be overjoyed by robinson's achievement, even if we don't agree on many issues. unfortunately, i cannot possibly condone a candidate who has said the kinds of things this man has said in the past. here is just a sample. >> there's no reason anybody anywhere in america should be telling any child about

transgender, homosexuality, any of that filth. >> robinson calling survivors of the parkland shooting, "spoiled, angry, know it all children." >> robinson posted, "this foolishness about hitler disarming millions ofand watching them the concentration camps is hogwash." >> it makes me sick when i pass a church that flies the rainbow flag. i absolutely want to go back to the america where women couldn't vote. >> these comments only scratch the surface of mark robinson's ticketed views. if you are wondering how such a hateful person could end up in such an important position, you can thank donald j trump. the former president who pushed for herschel walker to be the senate nominee in georgia four years ago, not only endorsed robinson, he called him "martin luther king on steroids." now, dr. king was on my mind this week while i was in memphis. i always go and make a stop at the lorraine motel where he was assassinated when i one, when i was a youngster 56 years ago.

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welcome back to politicsnation. let's bring in our panel. in honor of women's history month, democratic strategist juanita tolliver and republican strategist susan del presio. first, we want to take you to las vegas, nevada where vice president kamala harris is holding a campaign event. let's listen in. >> 70% more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes. it is because you organized and voted in 2020 that the president and i have finally capped the cost of insulin at $35.00 a month. i would ask anyone here, raise

your hand if you have a family member or a friend, someone you know and love who has diabetes. look at this. and what then that has meant in the lives of so many people. and, we capped the entire cost of prescription medication for seniors to $2000.00 a year. again, understanding that our seniors should not have to make this kind of choices, between food and a prescription, medication that a doctor said will save their life. >> that is vice president kamala harris, speaking in las vegas. let me go to the panel. susan, donald trump is tightening his firm grip on the republican party. the rnc elected trump back michael reilly and trumps daughter in law, lara trump to

take over the committee. we saw trump holdouts falling in line and endorsing the presumptive nominee, like senate republican leaders mitch mcconnell and joni ernst, also i know what governor kim reynolds and virginia governor glenn youngkin, all of them coming on, endorsing trump. noticeably, who hasn't endorsed trump yet is nikki haley. how likely is trump to attract those independent or republican voters who supported nikki haley ? >> that is a great question. they are not the same type of odor. the republicans who showed up to vote for nikki haley are real diehard republicans, they are primary voters. it is those, the people who show up are part of the

institution, if you will. it's not the same builder that shows up in a general election. independence, it depends on what they were interested in. if they were interested in getting rid of donald trump, that was one thing. if they were frustrated with joe biden and thought nikki haley was a good alternative, that is another. the big question is, is nikki haley going to try and influence the people who supported her? meaning, will she go on the other side and go back and endorsed trump? maybe make some kind of deal at the convention? or, will she come out against donald trump and hope that people follow her? i'm not sure which nikki haley we are going to see. >> now, juanita, trump is now facing a fraction not only a fractured party, is also having to deal with mounting legal bills that are threatening his personal and campaign finances. trump posted a $91,000,091.6

million bond friday and filed a notice of a. in the notice of defamation case by new york curator e jean carroll. now we need a bond for the happy billion-dollar judgment in the civil fraud case i the new york attorney general by the end of this month. trump's lawyers say he may have to sell some of his properties to pay the penalty. this may suggest trump isn't the multibillionaire he claims to be. we are talking about two civil trials here. his hush money trial starts later this month. if convicted, he is now a felon on his way to three more criminal trials. how much of an impact will trumps legal woes pay into this year's election ? >> i feel like when it comes to the voter reactions to these, these charges and these trials, voters are entrenched on what side they are on. with the base, it is a question

of people believing this is a targeted attack against trump. when it comes whatever it is, they are looking at this like probably did something wrong. i think trump is going to leverage all of these moments politically, whether that is to create his next fundraising opportunity for his base of supporters to give him money to pay for these, pay for these fees and all the things that come along with the trial. i also think that there's definitely going to be worked on to emphasize the lies trump has told about his financial well-being. i fully expect democrats to be out there every time trump says he's very successful and very rich to point to these moments specifically as evidence that he is not. while i don't expected to move voters, and expected to entrench voters behind trump or democrats throughout this election cycle. >> susan, i must ask about the official republican response to

the state of the union address. alabama's junior senator katie britt was given the task and she left some republicans, frankly scratching their heads about what they were watching. one republican strategist calling it, "one of our biggest disasters." today, the washington post is reporting that she, in fact, made a false link between trafficking case and joe biden. telling the story of a woman who was recently abused here in the u.s. but the paper reports she was a "prostitute," back in mexico in 2004 and had already testified in front of congress nine years ago. there's no indication in her story that cartels were involved, at all, and absolutely no connection to president biden's time in office. what are your thoughts about katie britt's performance? >> she must've gotten that

talking point from donald trump. we know the things he says simply aren't true. i do think it was a horrible performance. katie britt was someone who people were looking to as a possible vp pick. but, unlike joe biden state of the union, where he really was his inner joe biden, you really got a sense of authenticity, katie britt was like over emoting. i just was so surprised to see it. to add insult to injury, really, a kitchen? putting a woman in the kitchen on international women's day? i mean, it's just horrible. >> juanita, earlier today, president biden signed a $460 billion spending bill into law, averting a possible government shutdown that would have taken effect this weekend. is this the new reality, the

never-ending cycle of aggression against the deadline to fund the government? what do you make of these constant looming threats? >> i feel like the public is desensitized to it because every month, every other month there is a threat of a government shutdown. and, i feel like it reflects the fact that the public has lost confidence in congress as an institution. i think the latest numbers from gallup were that 15% of the country approves of the way congress is doing its job. every time there is this threat, every time there is the partisan posturing, especially from republicans when it comes to funding the government, which is a very basic responsibility of congress, then they are looking as though they are reaffirmed and the lack of confidence. i think that is something that they are absolutely going to take to the polls with them in november when they are selecting their members of

congress because republicans have demonstrated this threat is something they want to continuously hang over the heads of the president as well as the general public. so, this is their opportunity to vote against that. >> susan del percio and wanted to tolliver, thank you for being with us. up next, a 55-year-old photo that you have to see. and, as we go to break, president biden is at a campaign event in atlanta, georgia. let's just listen for a bit. >> the supreme court of alabama shutdown ivf treatments across the state, unleashed by the u.s. supreme court decision overturning roe v. wade. what a family has gone through has should never happen. folks, you know why this happened. i will tell you why, donald trump. he came to office determined to see roe v. wade overturned. he brags about it. he got his wish and states are passing plans to criminalize doctors, forcing victims to leave their states to get help. caplyta is prove n to deliver significant relief

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