that does it for me, thanks for watching. i will you this weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. now it is the sunday show. sho. my exclusive behind the scenes sit down with president biden. making his case for re-election and his connection to the voting block he cannot win without, black americans. >> i have your back. as much as any president has in american history. >> a national biden co-chair joins me live to discuss the interview and the reaction to the president's comments. complete takeover. the president introduces his

daughter-in-law's co-chair. the impeachment show much -- must go on. testifying before congress even though he has announced no charges will be brought against president biden for his handling of classified documents. from the judiciary committee talking about what is going on. the snl response to the republican response. >> i'm not a senator, a wife, a mother and the craziest -- in the target parking lot. >> this is the sunday show.

the 2024 election is shifting into high gear this week. primaries will be held in georgia and other states. on tuesday donald trump could clinch the republican nomination. this would've still happen even if nikki haley did not retire her campaign last week. president biden is ready for a rematch. i spent an extraordinary day with the biden election campaign traveling with the president from philadelphia to atlanta for a behind the scenes look at his effort to win a second term. on board air force one the president and i talked about how energized he is to take on donald trump, his opponent. biden told me that every time he hears trump speak, he gets juiced up. i witnessed juiced up energy firsthand when he met with minority business leaders where we sat down later for an

interview that was jampacked with news on everything from his regret on the use of the word illegal and being heckled by marjorie taylor greene. and the prospects of a cease- fire in the israel hamas war. he got heat from the state of the union from a rally where he expressed key differences between his vision and trumps vision for america. turning the one-on-one conversation i asked him about the promise he made to black americans when he won the election in 2020 where he declared that you have always had my back and i have yours. here is what he had to say. >> you mentioned on the outside of this conversation that you

got the endorsement of minority business leaders and business groups. you told black america that you would have our back. do you feel that you have our back? >> i have your back as much as any other president in american history. blackwell has increased by 60% across the board. you have interviewed some of the business leaders here. they are moving and they have loans and they have direct payments by the government to keep you going. there is not a single thing that they can do, give them a shot. that is why all three of these organizations are endorsing me today. we are keeping a lot more small businesses open than any time in 50 years.

small business is half of the economy in america. one thing that no one realizes is that when i got elected, i decided to employ the law for what happens when a president bends money for congress. he should hire american workers. that is what i am doing. i want to make sure that 20% goes to minority businesses. it is the growing economy in bringing the nation together. >> joining me now, assistant democratic leader the national co-chair for biden's 2024 re- election campaign. thank you for coming to the sunday show. the president said in that clip that he got black voters back. do you think that they will

have his in november? >> first of all, thank you very much for having me, jonathan. yes, i do think that we will have his back. we have in the past. he has not given us any reason not to going forward. that is just some of what he has done in this administration. let me tell you a couple of other things. black unemployment is the lowest it has been in 40 years. he knows their baggage. the number of $7 billion invested, he has done the numbers. 7 billion in the first year. up since the third year. it is now $11 billion. when it comes to student debt relief, just because the

supreme court stopped him, he charted out a course on four other fronts. let me say this about two of those programs. the income-based program and the one based on public service. going forward for the next four years, every two months, another 75,000 people will be eligible to have their student loan debt forgiven. 50,000 income-based for those who provide public service. joe biden has done what he has said he will do. let me say one other thing about that. nobody blames joe biden for what the supreme court did with

reproductive freedoms. the supreme court did that. why are we blaming joe biden for what happened? the supreme court did that. they got rid of the effectiveness of the voting rights act. we all know that. joe biden did not keep his promise. he passed the bill in the house with three boats in the senate. joe biden is doing everything he said he would do plus more. i think he has had our back and i believe that we will have is back in this next election. >> congressman, i will hold you a little bit longer. yesterday at the rally, i interviewed west moore and

andre dickens about voting enthusiasm for the president at the state of the union. watch this. maybe we have a president right now who is energized, energetic and speaking to a diverse crowd. right now he is campaigning with marjorie taylor greene. it is so severe and so significant and the disparity between these two, it is so massive. >> democrats are more fired up. he nailed the state of the union. they are energized and excited. look at how many people are here. let's go, they are ready. >> do you get the sense that democrats that were worried about the president's campaign are now energized? >> yes i do. let me say something about

that. the two of us sat down talking about the campaign and what has been going on there. i used to say that there was no substitute for substance. he has all of the substance that you would want to have in your administration. it seems at this time, people are interested more in -- then substance. there is a lack of style that turns people on. he said that in the state of the union address. that is the only thing that changed. a different approach at a different style. now everyone is turned off. that is what i think really matters. substance. >> i'm with you on that. let me get you on one more thing with a hard pivot here.

the president had this to say about benjamin netanyahu. listen to and we will talk about it on the other side. >> do you have a redline? with the invasion of raphael, would you having page him not to do? >> the defense of israel is critical. there is no redline. the redlines that if he crosses. we cannot lose 30,000 more palestinians. >> today, prime minister netanyahu said that he will defy that redline. what will that do to the relationship between president biden and prime minister netanyahu? >> that could very well rupture that relationship in a

really bad way. i'm not surprised at all about netanyahu. the president, just like the members of congress, the vast majority are very supportive of israel. i believe that most members of congress like most israelis are not in support of netanyahu. he put together a bunch of minority groups under the parliamentary system to get into the prime minister ship. he does not have the majority of the people in israel and the majority of the people in this country. this allows him to do what he is doing. he will say to netanyahu, you

cannot do what you are doing. he runs the risk of ill serving his people in a way that has not happened since harry truman recognized their independence. >> thank you as always for coming to the sunday show. >> thank you very much for having me. donald trump daughter-in- law is co-chair of the rnc . joining me live to explain what is going on with the organization that he used to lead. the committee that raised questions about joe biden's -- joining me live in studio to discuss what we can expect. all of this and more on the

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it's official, donald trump has solidified his takeover of the republican national committee. the man replacing her is north carolina republican michael raleigh who embraces the big lie. the disgraced ex-presidents daughter-in-law was named his co-chair. the new leadership is even more maga than the last. the campaign arm should put his legal bills associated with his civil and criminal indictments. he has not specifically said if he supports that but he has made it clear that he will allocate resources for election

integrity. >> we will work relentlessly in every state to ensure that it is easy to vote and hard to cheat. over the next eight months, the rnc will work with president trump to help his campaign to deliver on these core missions. if a dollar we have is not directed towards winning in november, that dollar will not be spent. >> joining me is the former chairman of the republican national committee. chairman steele, what is up with this new leadership? >> i call it the complete decapitation of the republican national committee from anything that is remotely connected to mainstream

republicanism, judicial conservatism, it is now fully maga. 130 members of the rnc are maga. that takes care of the chairman and national committeeman. you have now installed the current chair of north carolina of the rnc. and of course, the presidents daughter-in-law. how do you think that is going to go? when the political leader is also coming over to the rnc . how do you think that is going to go? >> what is the leader's role at the rnc? >> probably somewhere along the lines of executive director. overseeing the day-to-day operations that touch on everything the rnc does.

having a role in making sure that the execution and implementation of where those dollars go happens the way that donald trump wants them to happen. when you hear people say that no matter how strongly words are that they use to say it, there will be no dollars going to donald trump's legal defense, that is a lie. there is a myriad of ways in which those dollars can be used and siphoned off and repurposed, if you will. i'm telling all the good reporters out there, call those reports. you have to look at the thing that pops up that was not there before but is now. there are a lot of different things you need to be aware of. and one final point on that, they are members that do not want these dollars to go in

that direction. there's an effort to get language passed officially to prevent that from happening. it did not happen because donald trump did not want it to. >> charm and steel -- chairman steele, they are adding new election and poll workers. it sounds like voter intimidation to me. what do you make of the strategy? that is what this is ultimately about. >> of course it is. the board of elections has individuals that are certified to work within the confines of the precincts where the voting takes place. the parties typically have

volunteers that serve as poll watchers. you see them standing outside with signs saying to vote for my candidate. those roles are within the required boundaries. they are not part of the official process. what we saw over the last year was that the rnc made efforts to get some of these people trained up so that they can be moved inside the building. the objective remains the same. i remember on a number of shows raising this particular fact to watch how they are operationalizing this aspect of what would be poll watchers into voting volunteers. people who are working to process people's voting. looking at voting records and confirming with ar, versus what the document says.

yeah. i think there is a lot to be concerned about there. that is part of the plan. >> we have a minute left. i cannot have you here and not have us talk about senator katie brace. her republican response. here is a clip of scarlett johansson making a cameo appearance. >> you know, my husband leslie and i, we spend a lot of time in this kitchen. this is where kitchens -- families have hard conversations. about how mommy freaked out the entire country. >> chairman steele, come on, why did she do this? >> she did it because that is what she is coached to do.

it's unfortunate. i advised people to go and look at videos of senator britt. she is really good and very effective. it would've been very effective as an individual to respond. they tried to create something that verged on the stepford wives. it was unfortunate because that is not who she is naturally. again, one more reason why the response after the state of the union has to go the way of the dodo. that is the only thing that can do it. it's not a good look. >> chairman steele, icu, i respect you, i must tell you, it's time to go.

>> in my office where decisions are made. >> go to sleep. thank you very much as always for coming to the sunday show. still to come, the press for the documents investigation ended without charges. republicans want to refresh your memory about biden's age and mental capacity. joining me live to discuss what this hearing is all about. that is after the break. you are watching the sunday show on msnbc. ow on msnbc. hey, david! ready to get started? work with advisors who create a plan with you, and help you find the right investments. so great getting to know you, let's take a look at your new investment plan. ok, great! this should have you moving in the right direction. thanks jen. get ongoing advice; and manage your investments

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what piqued interest most was the language. throughout the report biden's memory was significantly limited and the report claims that the president will present himself to the jury with a -- part of a failed impeachment inquiry that has failed to yield concrete evidence but they keep on digging. joining me now is glenn i.v. thank you for coming to the sunday show. what are you inspecting here at sunday's hearing? >> they will focus on those comments about the presidents age. i know that the white house came out very strong after the report was published. given the presidents performance at the state of the

union, most of that is water under the bridge now. he blew those arguments out of the water. when we hear commentary on it, he is too political, too angry, but not too old. >> president biden has pointed out the difference between his case and the former presidents handling of documents. what is clear after been giving multifile chances, mr. trump did the opposite. allegedly. the fbi had to trade his house to get these documents back. you expect republicans to ignore that on tuesday's hearing? >> they will try. this is where you have had members of the committee complaining. the whole time is that the department of justice is weapon

eyes and this is one aspect of it. this really blows that out of the water using robert hurd who is a former republican u.s. attorney. >> for a former u.s. attorney, how many former u.s. attorneys have you had in your career in maryland? >> i had one in the state. what you make of his report? why did he throw in all of this extra language? what's going on? i thought there was supposed to be equal justice in the law. >> i think that is right. i think it was a lengthy effort.

he wrote about some things that would not normally be made public. it is made public under the statute. the house judiciary committee said that it confused everybody there. even traditional things with prosecutors alone being in the middle of the prosecution with hunter biden, they are interrupting the efforts to move forward with the prosecution. this would have been made public and the politics of it are a little obvious. again, i don't think that is going to matter for people moving forward at this point. >> we have seen so many hearings at this point that we know how the process goes. they do the opening statement

and then the ranking member gets to do the opening statement and then it will ping- pong back and forth going and giving your opening statement. what is the democratic strategy here? what will you say when the ping- pong ball for opening statements gets to you? >> i will laugh. i am the second to youngest member. i will see what is done before to see if there any cleanup issues to address. we want to make sure it is clear about the statements made in the report. the contrast between president biden who we have found has not committed any criminal misconduct with former president trump who had committed misconduct and tried to hide the documents, they had to go in with search warrants to get them. it is a good contrast for

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except for the year, where it took place, and who was president when it happened. >> that was scarlett johansson giving a killer performance as katie britt at saturday night live. thank you all very much for coming back to the sunday show. i want to pick up on what we just played for the parity of saturday night live where i show you the real senator and what she said on fox news sunday this morning about the trafficking story. watch this. >> to be clear, the store you

relayed was not part of the biden administration? >> i very clearly said that i spoke to a woman that told me that she was trafficked when she was 12. >> renee, just to be clear, the story that she said that she was told, it happened under president bush in 2004 in mexico. your reaction to her response to the pushback on that story that she told. >> i think the response is very difficult. there was no apology, no clarification. she was doubling down on what she said. republicans count on their supporters and cannot ignore the facts. it's like that cartoon where the dog can only hear what the owner is saying to them. all they heard in the comments last night was biden and border

policies. nothing else matters, details, facts, relevant. >> do you think that senator britt will get away with characterizing the situation and the circumstances behind the stories that she told? do republicans even care? >> even the response of her responses to ignore it. of course she would be on fox news sunday ahead of this response. focusing on biden and if he was on steroids. they are trying to ignore the entire response. >> what about that? congressman ivey a minute ago

explained that we are whiplash. the president is old, febrile, senile. now he is a hopped up superman and suddenly he is partisan. who are these people? >> the good news is when you don't worry about the truth, you can say whatever you want. it does not matter to the people around her who she should be really mad at. she told a lie. there is no going back to normal. she is now part of maga and it will overtake her. they always quadruple down on it. it's not our fault that the truth came out. it's the people who dare to do the work to figure this thing out. how dare they come up with the

truth. that is why she is so mad about. >> i will switch gears. this is along the lines of the president and whether he has the stamina to run the campaign. he has been itching to go on the campaign trail. this is why she said on meet the press for the need to debate donald trump. >> if he is with it an energetic, get in a room with donald trump and debate. take questions from people like yourselves, there is an election that deserves a debate between these two candidates, it is this election. his campaign just told me anytime, anywhere, let's debate. >> why do i get the distinct impression that this is part of a sigh of operation.

they are out there saying that donald trump is ready to debate. joe biden should commit to debating. donald trump does not want to debate at all. >> this allows talking about earlier with not talking about the facts. in 2022, they will not participate in any debate hosted by the commission. they are always out there to get the republican or whatever was. during the primary, his campaign did not want trump debating. they were afraid of what he might say because this is an important distinction. in the rally setting, everyone expects him to be nuts and say

all the crazy stuff and horrible things that he said over the weekend. standing on a stage with the current president as the former president, they know he cannot hold it together. he only has one way of doing things. what he tried to do to biden in 2020. none of this is true. >> renee, he has to debate. i think donald trump has to debate. not only is the campaign afraid that he will say the crazy stuff, the man has 91 felony counts and can get himself in trouble legally given the cases that are against him. >> every time i hear someone say that donald trump wants to debate joe biden it reminds me of every time that we hear from his lawyer, he wants to testify and get on the stand.

except it never actually happens. not really, not in the way that he is promoting. it is a lot of smoke and mirrors. in the end i doubt that he will debate joe biden. he cannot control himself. this is a different thing that we have mentioned about the rally stage. for more people watch and hear. this will hurt him much more. donald trump wants to be on the debate stage with joe biden. >> let me ask the control room a question. getting to what we were talking about. here is donald trump mocking the president during his rally.

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that was a behind-the- scenes moment before my exclusive sitdown with president biden i was aboard air force one in that conference room. last time i had an interview with the president he made a special phone call to my aunt gloria. joining me is america's aunt gloria. aunt gloria, you know what, after the sitdown interview, later on after what you just saw, he said, do you have on gloria's phone number and this phone that i have is new compared to the one in 2022 and i went to your name and i did

not have your phone number. and i emailed you, would you send it to me? if i could've got you on the phone with the president, what would you have said to him? >> congratulations on a perfect state of the union address. i love the state of the union. he was vigorous, he was direct and he has the wisdom to take us so much further. republicans look like zombies. they just sit there. go ahead. >> on the point of republicans in the chamber, given what you just said, what did you make of the republican response? did you see that? >> some time ago, we will be sad about this girl.

i think that saturday night live did a much better job. >> as we now know, we are down to the same two candidates that we had back in 2020. joe biden should be the nominee and it takes an old white dude to beat an old white dude. >> the oldest white dude is better than the young white dude. biden can be trump anywhere. trump will trip himself up. he has no clue why anybody would want him in the center of the crooked world running things. biden has been through this, world war ii, i don't want to get into world war iii. trump don't care. he will take off.

you will start dropping bombs. >> do you think that donald trump wants to debate president biden? >> he may want to, i know that no one around him wants that to happen. he's crazy. he does not want a two-way conversation. he wants to be able to scream and holler whatever he has to say. most of it does not make any sense. >> on that, we will have to leave it there. aunt gloria next time you come on the show, you will be sitting right here next to me. that is a promise. trust and believe. thanks, aunt gloria. that will do it for me today.

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