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wait until we show you what happened this weekend. joe biden and donald trump held dueling rallies and held drastically different visions for the country. i will let you guess which one happened and marjorie taylor greens district. governor wall is a ally and i will get his reaction to all of it. plus on friday donald trump posted a 91 million dollars bond in the carroll case. .4 hours later it seemed like he defamed her again. i will ask a law firm if trumps task should be going up. also today katie's response to the state of the union was really something and she was back on the air this morning. we have a response to the response. later he was a secretary of state and the climate envoy, now my old boss appears this the boy from government we sit down for his exit interview.

if it wasn't clear before, and it probably was to you, the events of this week cemented it. joe biden and donald trump will be the major party nominees this november. let's get it out of the way and say for whole host of reasons this will not be a regular election. for the first time in 70 years americans will get a rematch of a presidential race. for the first time in 100 years americans will have a president and former president on the ballot. for the first time in history one of the candidates will be running under criminal indictment. you know the one. we have seen both of these guys before and we know who they are. for the first time in a very long time a presidential race won't include a splashy outsider change candidate who is introducing himself to the public. and yet that seems to be how donald trump wants to sell himself the new york times reported according to trumps advisers and allies he will again seek to change the claim

mantle. leave it or not the trying to position him. yes the guy who was president less than four years ago, as an outsider. he is not an incumbent, he is an insurgent. now at this point i have some real questions about calling donald trump an outsider. he has essentially become the republican party. setting that aside change can be a winning message. it's how ronald reagan won in 1980 and will clinton in 1982. it's how barack obama ran and one in 2008. even how donald trump won in 2016. it's a simple story, change versus the same. even one democratic strategist put it, if the choice is you rather stay the course or change i would always take change in the world we are in. here is the problem with that shorthand political strategic repair we need to be clear about what change would mean under donald trump. donald

trump is not a normal candidate and we shouldn't talk about him like he is. he's not running a normal message of change. donald trump's and maga's vision of change is forward- looking and not progressive. joe biden made that in a speech, he's been on quite a roll. trying to lay out clearly what the change would look like a world that is friendly to autocracy and against the rule of law. a world where reproductive rights are stripped of women and immigrants are dehumanized. i understand if you don't want to take joe biden's remarks as gospel but donald trump has no problem speaking for himself when you compare the two side- by-side the contrast is something to behold. >> it tells you a lot about the person he keeps coming with. yesterday he was hosting at his club victor or von. who said he doesn't think democracy works.

calling him a fantastic leader. >> i had dinner last night with the great gentlemen from hungary. the prime minister, victor orbach. very, very tough. some people don't like him because he is very tough break >> celebrate the immigrants to the economy and thou shalt call them vermin >> i will stop the invasion. i will stop the killing. i will stop the bloodshed and end the agony of our people. the plunder of our cities and the sacking of our towns, the violation of our citizens and the conquest of our country. >> we all know donald trump sees a different america. a story of resentment and recognition. that's not me, that's not you. >> we have a very corrupt country. i fired a lot of bad people that i did not know it run so deep. we will get rid of the rest of

them and i know who most of them are. >> so is donald trump for change? sure he is. for change your democracy into an automatic rate state like victor orbach demonizing migrants and normalizing the language of adolf hitler and abusing the power of the presidency for retribution above all else. by definition that would be a whole lot of change. let's be clear about the kind of change donald trump is saying he wants to inflict in his second term. sharing thoughts today is minnesota democratic governor tim walz. i've been look forward to having him on for a while. the chair of the democratic associates. thank you for taking your time. i want to start with my thesis. even democratic strategists will say trump has an advantage of sorts because he is running as the change candidate. what i was curious of you, you're the governor of minnesota and were very popular. you talk to voters a lot, when

you go out there voters say i don't want more of the same, i want someone who mixes things up what do you say to them? >> well, good morning and thank you. i think your comparison and contrast is exactly right. this is a binary choice. you want someone who wakes up who's competent and compassionate or someone who creates chaos. conspiracy theory and all the things you hear. the short clip should terrify a lot of folks and the good news is the majority of folks minnesota do believe that. we lived under donald trump's presidency. that meant people were dying of covid and he was saying it would be gone in a week. we saw joe biden come in and tackle the tough issues and outputting a positive vision. donald trump has been a minnesota a lot. he does a big rally and doesn't deliver a thing. joe biden comes out and gets $1 billion for the most important bridge connecting wisconsin and the great lakes where trade matters, jobs matter. we will get out there and tell

the story. this week watching some of the media colleagues wake up and say look at this, it's a new joe biden. no it's not, it's the same competent joe biden who has been delivering. governors understand because we have to do it every day. >> doesn't deliver a thing. someone is making close on teachers. i think it's a point of independence pride and street but in 2017 candidates picked up over 5% of the vote in the state. how concerned about you of the impact. we are fully in and of third- party candidates. rfk junior, jill stein or others hurting the president in minnesota. >> yeah, we do have an independent streak. one of them was a wrestler in jesse ventura. it's out there so i think people are hearing what you're hearing and i appreciate your framing. this is not a normal election, quit treating it like a horse race using the normal metrics.

every time donald trump is on the ballot democrats win. we saw win in kentucky with a message of job creation in that state. we see special elections go whether it's up in new york. i know folks are going to be out there. i know at this point in time we are abroad party we don't wear the same stupid red hats. we have a lot of ideas and there's a tendency to look. joe biden is consolidating that the message is clear and the results are obvious. we move closer to november the binary choice between a trump absolute chaos and slipping away of democracy versus a guy who gets it done. that was apparently the state of the union. the new ad is spectacular and tells the story. you will see more and more of that. >> doesn't keep you up at night that a third-party candidate could take a bunch of the votes from joe biden and helped trump

in your state? >> oh yeah, well i think they should be worried even in my state where we had folks expressing a deep desire and dissatisfaction with the state in gonzo. but trump lost more votes than the president on that. i don't know if you will consolidate its mad max beyond thunder dome vision of america, that's not what's there. at the end of the day it's not a protest vote. we don't have the luxury of thing i wish we had a perfect candidate. this is a binary choice and it could not be clearer. the third party folks, rfk junior nonsense around vexing denial is not going to go anywhere and our own homegrown candidate has stone support behind the president and i think that bodes well. >> you're also the chair of the democratic governors division. you have a full plate, fair to say. one of the alarming things that happen this week was in carolina. the democrats have a great candidate in josh stein.

lieutenant governor mark robinson is the nominee on the republican side. is probably more conspiracy addled than anyone. donald trump loves him and referred to him as martin luther king on steroids which is a bizarre thing to say. what i'm curious about your per spec is how do you use the extreme nature of mark robinson to drive out more votes in north carolina. to put that in the win column for joe biden and of course josh stein? >> i think that's right. governors are delivering. folks across the country know if you have it democratic governor your reproductive rights are protected. they're leaning around the issues of climate change and you sound in north carolina. eight years of roy cooper faulted north carolina to the top job creation state, expanded medicaid protection and women's right. josh stein delivers that making north carolina save and prosperous for all.

and you have mark robinson. i don't know what to say. a holocaust denier, someone who mocks the survivors of school shootings. continues to go down this road but this is systematic. this is the party of donald trump, of no vision. how is that rhetoric going to make anyone's life better? he says teachers are evil people. i will take this personal i'm up public school teacher that i ask listeners to think of fun memories of your fourth grade teacher and with your children with the care they are shown at school. to say those are evil people whose desire is to destroy public schools the message will be strong. in every election, i don't care where the polls are, every election since donald trump has been on. 18, 20, and 23 special elections we will be there. mark robinson we will make sure people get to know him. will make sure he's very clear. use his own words it's all we need but the contrast is this, compassionate visionary leader of josh stein following the

incredible leadership roy cooper provided. folks in north carolina know life is better when you have a governor who actually cares and is not in these weird, bizarre conspiracy theories. looking forward to it and we will do it across the country. from washington to new hampshire. we will show people when democratic governors in charge, family issues matter and compassion rules the day. >> governor tim walz i think people will learn a lot more about the lieutenant governor of north carolina. it is a race to watch for sure. thank you for joining us. and coming up donald trump just posted a $92 million bond in the aging carol defamation case and he might have the same last night. after the break i will ask about all of it. we're just getting started today and we will be right back. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled.

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subsidiary of the company is the guarantor of donald trump's $91.6 million bond in the e. jean carroll case. the bond will cover trump's cost if he loses the appeal or fails to pay damages. after thinking how convenient this is for trump consider that the current ceo evan greenberg was appointed by trump in 2018 to serve on his white house advisory committee for trade negotiation. it really sounds like trump dodged a bullet here. just a reminder trump is on the hook for more than $466 million in a separate civil fraud judgment. that amount is growing by $112,000 per day in interest. how does trump pay up? what could they possibly gain from trump if he returns to the white house. joining me is our in-house law firm, neal and the former acting general andrew wiseman. the former council of the fbi.

also the co-author of a brand- new best-selling book, the trump indictment. the historic documents of commentary. okay, andrew i want to start with something you tweeted. trump made someone like elon musk cosigning the trump bond so the bank is comfortable being on the hook for the judgment. same could happen for the bond with the $450 million adjustment. can you explain what that means and how that works and what you think is happening here. >> sure, listening to the first segment about whether donald trump will be successful in running as an outsider, this is an example of his running as an outsider but as an outlaw. and not stress the criminal cases but you have the civil cases where he has judgments. he has two up to $91 million in the e. jean carroll case and

400 million in the new york fraud case. the concern in the civil cases, civil judgment, is who is the candidate the holden to? is he somebody who is going to be making policy and being differential to people who have put up money? there's a simple way of looking at this. he has 450 million reasons to be differential someone else is putting up the money or cosigning. for example elon musk i'm not saying he is a cosigner but he has said i've not given up money but that's not the only way you can help donald trump get a bond. you can actually cosign it. that issue of who is actually behind them is something people who are voting should know. >> is sounds very clear what andrew is talking about but it's important for people to understand why that matters.

it sounds like trump is beholden to someone and we may never know who it is, maybe we will but regardless what dangers does that pose especially since he could become president again. >> some few dangers, not every day someone posts a $92 million bond. >> that's important to remember. >> is not even close to the biggest bond he has to post this month. they're raising the point if someone is guaranteeing the bond besides trump, the way a parent might cosign a lease for their college kids apartment, that can make them indebted to that person and give a whole new meaning to the term political dark money. when you have a national security position, you go through a background check and one of the key things they investigate is who are you beholden to financially. were you liable for financial coercion. right now we have a candidate who put up a $90 million bond and put up another 400 million

dollar one and the public has no idea what arrangement led him to do that. maybe he has his own collateral but i expect the judge may get into that as early as tomorrow. >> looking forward to that who is behind it is a key question. i want to play free you some of trump's speech which i hope you weren't up late watching. he mentioned e. jean carroll. i will talk about it on the other side. >> i just posted a $91 million bond. 91 million on a fake story. totally made up. 91 million based on false accusations made about me by a woman i knew nothing about. i never heard of, i know nothing , i never heard of her. >> let's start with you. did he cross the line and defame e. jean carroll again? >> is sure sounds like it. there were many days i wish i was roberta kaplan who is jean

carol's extraordinary lawyer. she is so phenomenal but today is the day i really wish i was because donald trump is basically writing the third lawsuit that she is going to foul and it's absolutely within her rights to bring that lawsuit and create a whole another. trump lost in front of a jury of his peers on this question of whether he had defamed e. jean carroll and now he's doing it again. i'm sure she is just sitting there scribbling it all down and ready to go. >> this is a sign you love your job, which is a good thing. andrew let me go to you. first of all you agree to cross the line and defamed her again? also even if he cross the line, by law, don't you think robbie kaplan should keep suing him? how do you feel about that for the rule of law and the cycle of it? >> i think there are two issues on that. is there enough here for robbie

kaplan to sue again and i think the answer is yes. the issue of whether it's defamation jury again can make that decision. but what clip you play, there's actually more of it where he refers to her as being crazy. he said this happened because he had the affliction of being rich. meaning this is just a lawsuit as a gold digger. those are the things that would be the basis for a third lawsuit. and as they said there's already two juries that have found him liable. yes, she could drink the third suit. she constitutes something that happened against rudy giuliani until he fouled for bankruptcy which is actually seeking an injunction. at some point now that donald trump has found some sort of sugar daddy to pay off the bond in this case he feels no

compulsion going out and making these statements. another remedy is to get an injunction saying you cannot do this anymore. at some point you have to stop because this is continuing damage to e. jean carroll. as the jury found, and was argued successfully, this is a man who first sexually assaulted her. was found by a jury, and then continue to defame. just remember who the of them is here. at some point it really has to stop. money is no longer a sufficient deterrent. >> e. jean carroll, i left her bold statement. spicy. thank you both as always. neil and andrew, thank you for joining me today. up next i have a few thoughts on my own of the state of the union and what it tells us about how bizarre things have gotten in the magaverse.

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>> okay, i want to show you the headline from the texas tribune following the state of the union back in 2021. it reads freshman gop texas congressman made a personal pitch to joe biden, let me help with criminal justice reform. it sounds good, right? there you see him, mask on making a direct appeal to president biden. the paper reported that neil told biden this, i'm a sheriff from texas, the most diverse county in the country. i want to help with criminal justice reform. i want to be a part of that. i don't know how to reach out to you but i have the experience. that sounds good. that's what those nights should be about. freshman republican asking how he can get in touch with the democratic presidents of work on something the american people care about. that's exactly what troy was

doing in 2021. fast forward and this is what he was doing at the state of the union this week that is the trump mug shot on his t-shirt. happened between 2021 and this week. he was gerrymandered from a trump plus one district into a trump +16 district. also maga is one heck of a drug it turns out that it's not the only example of this evolution. take alabama senator katie britt she came up and the staff richard shelby who is sort of an old school republican. when she got to the senate in 2023 she was seen as one of the parties rising start. last year senator britt didn't give the official response but she put it up on youtube. here's a taste of what that sounded like. >> my senate republican colleagues and i are fighting every day for faith, family and freedom. parents and families know best. the state of our union is

strong when parents and families are strong. together, we can build and we must, a bright future for generations to come. >> okay, that was 2023. you may not agree with everything but it's not scary. i'm guessing you've seen 2024 that we will play it for you. >> mr. president, enough is enough. the free world deserves better and it doesn't have to be this way. we all feel it. we hear you and we stand with you. we are seeped in the blood of the patriots. we are here because they stood back up. >> so those are obviously super weird for reasons and a little alarming at times but also incredibly misleading. during that speech she shared a graphic story about a woman who

told her about being sexually abused over and over by members of mexican drug cartel. she implied it happened in the united states told the story to criticize the biden administration's border policy. but an independent reporter named jonathan kass did a little digging and what he discovered has gone viral on tiktok. he found out the victim has shared her story many times not just to katie privately, including to congress in 2015. and the horrific acts she talks about actually took place in mexico. happened when george w. bush was president. all in all, the super weird speech with at least one very misleading part about immigration. sound familiar? it should. it's a page out of trump's playbook. some republican members of congress basically entered the political world looking and acting like this. they ran as full throat maga fanatics. without waiting for pretense to

evolve. others like troy nehls and katie britt there is been an evolution and that tells us something important. even when you're elected as a mainstream conservative, there are many others, there's no incentive to stay that way. the maga movement is no longer the fringe. it is the republican party. in order to stay in the office and rise through the ranks you have no choice but to go full maga. i spent the last few days wondering what the daily show trevor thinks of all the crazy things we witness in politics and there was a lot. jordan joins me after a quick break. good to go out even later. with cabenuva, there's no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two injections from a healthcare provider, just 6 times a year.

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>> first and foremost i am a mom. like any mom i will do a pivot out of nowhere into a shockingly violent story about sex-trafficking. rest assured every detail about it is real, except the year where it took place and who was resident when it happened. >> i think it's fair to say saturday night live had a lot to work with this week. i imagine the writers at the daily show are hard at work. so many material they may not know what to do with it. joining me now is jordan and i'm so excited to welcome him back to the show. i have been wondering what the thought bubble was going on in your head when you were watching the katie britt response. a lot to unpack but what did you make of it? >> well, it was definitely my least favorite tennessee williams play but i was glad to

see it resurfacing again. frankly, performative outrage is a skill and it's something that you saw her take her first swing at which is always an exciting time for a performer. as a failed actor myself, i know it is like to be handed a shaky script and not have the skills to really communicate with my audience. i felt a certain kinship with the senator there. but she gave it her best, she knew who she was playing to an and oddly sexual way more often than not. it felt like she was coming onto the moderate gop moms of america with stories of sex- trafficking but if that's the game plan, good luck. >> she did tell a horrific story involving a migrant and human trafficking. she strongly implied it happened in the united states under joe biden's watch and it actually happened in mexico when george w. bush was president. let's listen on thursday night on how she tried to clean it up

this morning. >> we went be okay with this happening in a third world country. this is the united states of america. it is past time in my opinion that we start acting like it. president biden's border policies are a disgrace. >> did you mean to give the impression that the horrible story happened on president biden's watch? >> no, shannon. i very specifically said this is what president biden did during his first 100 days. minutes after coming into office he stopped all deportation. >> so look, it's a horrible story but she clearly got herself into a bit of a pickle. did you feel watching that she cleared things up for everyone? your spent a lot of time with maga voters at rallies. i do think they digested her

performance and cleanup this morning? >> well, i don't think a lot of people pay attention to the cleanup. it's one thing to go on fox news sunday morning but a lot of the people i talked to at maga events have only seen the auto context clip to put online. i think she got the headlines she needed. she spoke with fear, she spoke with outrage and had the headlines. i think those god digested into the maga sphere. what happened this morning is compelling. i'm happy to see media pushing back on the narrative but that's not how people digest the narrative. they digest the initial tidbit and they move on. probably from her per spec, mission accomplished. >> crazy to say that you talk about a lot of these voters. before super tuesday you ventured to a rally in north carolina. on a play a piece of you talking to a haley voter white

she would support donald trump in a general election just to give a taste of what you witness there. >> what's done with donald trump ? >> it's just trump and the sex cases. come on, just the fact you have all the criminal stuff. >> it's insane. no one should support him for president. but if it's him versus biden you will support him for president. >> i think so. >> you were all of us in that moment. so you talk to a lot of these voters, what is your biggest take away from all of the conversations you had with the haley voters, they're horrified by trump but a lot was still vote for him from the ones you talked to. >> we were very curious about the question of where the voters go. the big take away is the biden team needs to be worried about this. these folks didn't need to be explained to about the dangers

of donald trump. they articulate it better than a lot of folks on the left would articulate their fears and anxieties. also joe biden is dead in the water in their minds. he needs to articulate a vision to get them back on that page. i expect there to be much more openness to the idea of accepting somebody outside of their original party. when we press a lot of people said they wouldn't vote but most people went back to knowing the don't want to support donald trump presidency but not being able to allow themselves to support the idea of joe biden as president. we walked away feeling like joe biden is to start communicating to these voters or find a whole new option. the joe biden in their mind is one which they will not support. >> hard to watch. before i let you go, everyone wants to know how much jon stewart talk of katie britt will there be tomorrow night? what should we expect? >> i'm always excited to go to

the morning meetings where we get to digest the news of the day or the weekend. that's where have the best job in the world. we sit around the table and we get to watch the chaos around us and make lots of lovely, insightful, thoughtful jokes and or cries to the gods about the things we saw. i deftly assume there will be a little bit of senator britt talk on the daily show. >> i bet. lots to work with last week. i will be tuning in. jordan, thank you for your time and i love all the things you do out there. coming up next isa done with my former boss john kerry as he steps down as u.s. presidential envoy for climate. we'll talk about his career in public service and what concerns him most about the next few months.

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close the chapter i sat down with him for his exit interview. >> i want to start with what you talked about is one of your biggest accomplishments. you had some significant success at the u.n. climate around your birthday. you taught me that you have to work with and talk to people even when you have major disagreements. even when you may look at the chinese and say they are manipulating the currency, they are human rights abuses, but you had to work with them to get this done. talk to me about why this is so important and it comes to making progress systematically. >> first of all president biden came into the office deeply committed to this issue within hours of being sworn in he rejoined the paris agreement. he charged me with responsibility to build a team that could go out and rebuild america's credibility in the world because it was in tatters. the prior president had pulled

out of the paris agreement and our credibility was in the floor. ultimately it required us to go out and do climate diplomacy. that's what the president wanted and that's what we did. >> when you went back and started you had to rebuild a great deal relationships with the world. as did president biden, what were those conversations like? >> the early years it was inundation with that conversation because everybody would say what happens if you know who comes back. so we really thought about that hard because it was key to being able to move people forward and come together around some kind of major step as we did in dubai. the real key is the economy has already changed, globally. the biggest companies in the world are moving to deal with the climate crisis. >> let me ask you about this information. talk about it in terms of disinformation on climate. have been the target when you

ran for president and your career, your military service was tarnished. you have been very aggressive since then in fighting back against disinformation. talk to me about what you have learned and why it's so important to fight back. >> if you lose the truth as the centerpiece of decision-making and aspirations in the country, you have lost democracy. you have to have truth. we don't have the same arbiters, the same referees we used to have in our political structure. first of all politicians are not the best validators anymore in our country. >> because of distrust? >> because of distrust, it all sounds the same and people don't see enough progress in the areas they'd like to see progress because there is a gridlock after gridlock, budget after budget. people look at that and say this isn't working

very well. mind you, i think you know this. in other countries, particularly countries that aren't that friendly, this is being exploited. people point to it and say look , these guys are incapable. they're not the great, strong big america we knew in the past. obviously we have one of the most powerful military on the planet with the largest economy in the world still but there are doubts about whether or not we can get the job done and lead in the way we used to. >> i have to ask you about russia. do you think they will intervene in our election. do you worry? >> they already intervene in the election. others are probably engaged in that. it will be absolutely critical that you all in the media help the american people at large to be able to understand that this information is happening. it's really at a level that is

deeply discerning. >> one of the thing that is difficult for people to evaluate as you have four countries will have their own audiences and i want to ask you about putin because he keeps threatening that he will use nuclear weapons. is that something people should be fearful of in this country? >> i think russia, resident putin has a lower bar in their philosophy about nuclear weapons and war scenarios. i think one has to be not intimidated but truly alert to what the potential is to get into a situation that spirals out of control. i think putin and others are probably watching with great interest as to who will be the next president of the united states. people need to ask themselves who they feel has the experience and the temperament

and the record of managing that kind of potential out-of- control conflict in a way that president biden has. >> you've known joe biden for a long time what is something people don't understand about him? >> there is a standard being applied to him. sort of a double standard. i think if you look at the leading candidate for president on the republican side, there are a lot of things i'm uncomfortable getting into the politics of this but there are a whole series of actions over time that really would raise very serious doubts about running for president. years ago candace aziz would've ended with many of these things that of made public over the last years. i want to come back one point

the republican party has been a party of strength traditionally and feeling important to stand up for american values in the world. our values are being fought for by other people in ukraine. if we don't stand up there, yes it will happen somewhere else and we will be dragged in. history tells us that. a whole history of the last century tells us that i am so sad and angry on the fact that some young soldier is in the ditch out there in ukraine fighting for those principles and doesn't have enough ammunition. isn't able to do it he needs to do today. every american should be sensed at the motion that we are contributing to that crisis. perhaps the loss of life for the person that's willing to

fight for our values in their not getting the support they need from us. >> you had a career rooted in global values have you ever ruled out going back and serving again in public service. >> god will if i continue to feel healthy and energized as i do, i look forward to it. i also look forward to having some time, you asked me what i would do. i promise my grandson for christmas that he was going to go to the manchester city/ liverpool game coming up. >> are you going to take him? >> yes indeed. along with his family. >> that is something they will all look forward to. >> my thanks to my old boss john kerry for sitting down with me as we can. see what he does next, looking forward to it. i have one more thing to share today and i will tell you about it after the break.

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>> that does it for me today. we are already working on tomorrow night show. two congressmen will join me, congressman shipp fresh off his big win senate primary and congressman dan goldman joined me ahead of special council robert kurds testimony. stay right where you are because there is much more news coming up on msnbc.