talk about the audio recording between the president and his ghost writer i suspect that republicans are going to push for that audio to come out. so i think if i were a betting man, i would suspect we would see that over the course of the next several weeks. >> and you'll be back. i'd love to have you back. thank you for those two hours. much appreciated. that is going to do it for us. make sure to join us every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. good to be with you. what is the point of today's special counsel hearing on capitol hill? robert hur testified about his decision not to charge president biden for taking classified documents from the white house after he was vice president.

and defended the words he used to explain that decision in the report he sent to merrick garland, the attorney general. i said president biden was old and he had a poor memory because that's what i saw when i interviewed him, hur keeps on saying. anticipating that testimony, the white house released a transcript of that interview between president biden and special counsel hur hoping to refute those findings. so let's get into it. find out exactly what that transcript says. also what democrats and republicans got out of today's testimony. joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent, mike memoli and lisa rubin. first off to you, mike. you read the whole transcript. i tried to get you on the show yesterday, you couldn't come on. you said you were doing something special in secret. now we know what it was. you were reading the transcript. does it line up with the way hur described the interview? >> certainly in the mind of democrats, no. that's part of what the reaction was and what we saw democrats

attempting to do throughout today's hearing was to enter portions, excuse me, of that transcript into the record. to at one point even ask hur to read in his own words what he wrote about the president and the challenge based on what was in the transcript itself. perhaps biggest flash point had to do with of course robert hur assessing that the president was an elderly man with a poor memory and he cited as evidence to support that assessment the fact that the president could not remember within several years, the year his son died. the transcript does bear out nbc's reporting which had been exclusive until we saw the transcript itself that it was the president himself who raised beau's death in the context of questions about how he kept certain documents related to the activities of his post vice presidency in 2017. he did get the date and day correct, but not the year. several of his lawyers had to

prompt that. but as somebody who's covered president biden for now 16 years, has probably listened to him more than i would argue most if not anyone else in the country let's say. when you read the full transcript, you are seeing a very familiar president biden. somebody who at times is thinking out loud. somebody who at times is trying to diffuse some of the tension in the room with jokes. someone who is taking every opportunity when offered to him to tell a story. whether it's about how he entered into public service 50 years ago or the time he shot a bow and arrow in mongolia trip in 2011 that i also happen to be traveling with him on. it does present a fuller picture of those five hours over two days that were so pivotal in the special counsel reaching his decision and it was obviously a big part of what we were discussing and hearing questions about throughout the day of hur himself. >> let's focus for another

moment on the stuff about beau dying. can we get a little bit more clarity on what the transcript said? was he asked specifically by robert hur when beau died or was he trying to recall events around that time frame? >> so it's important to put this in the full context and reading the full transcript gives us that opportunity. hur sets up a line of questioning about how biden was maintaining documents related to various initiatives he was taking on when he left the white house in 2017. he listed, hur did, among those activities the biden cancer initiative, the penn biden center, and the fact that biden was writing a book. now, in response to that framing at the time biden was renting a home in virginia, it was biden himself who unprompted did raise as he tried to reestablish his own timeline of what he was doing in 2017. he says that while you have to remember at that time, my son

was either deployed or dying. now, he refers to his deployment which was in 2010, 2009, and his dying obviously he was diagnosed with cancer in 2013. so right off the bat, biden is misstating the timeline that hur is explicitly asking about. now, when you speak with white house officials, when you try to get a little fuller context, they point to what biden continues to say over the subsequent pages which is to establish the larger timeline of when he decided not to run, but ultimately decided to run for president 2016 and 2020 to sort of explain that biden may have not necessarily remembered the year yes when prompted on it, but certainly he of course, it's a searing moment in his life, but what biden was trying to do was convoy to hur the fuller context of why he was engaged in the kind of work he was taking on and why he was writing the book he wrote, promise me dad, which gets into that entire

timeline before and after beau's death. >> talking about the moment, republicans made a lot of hay about this. he had classified material. went downstairs to get it. showed it to his ghost writer. what did he go get down there, mike? was it actual documents marked classified or something else? >> so there's a fundamental disagreement and this is apparent when you read through the transcript between the president, the president's lawyers and the special counsel about whether the notebooks that biden took notes in throughout his vice presidency, we have every reason to believe he's continuing to take notes as president. similar to a diary, but not exactly like them. whether those represented classified materials. the president maintains clearly and forcefully during this interview those were not classified. now, during the interview when biden is asked by the special counsel whether, what he meant when he's, and there's audio to

support this. he tells mark he just found all this classified information downstairs. the president says first he does not recall finding classified material in his virginia home. but that what he was likely saying was that there was a particular document that they were discussing that biden said he did not want the include that particular document in the book. that it did not fit in the purpose of the book. that was biden's explanation. there's a view from the special counsel side that he was confessing to the fact that he found classified information after he left office. >> let me play zoe lofgren getting to this point with hur. >> while much of his notebook was work related, he still had some purely personal subjects like again i quote, gut wrenching entities about the illness and death of his son, beau. that's on page 82 and 253 of

your report. so it's clear based on the reagan precedent that no criminal charges were awarded in this matter relative to personal notebooks. now i want to be clear that although the notebooks contain some very personal information and president biden considered them his personal property, the president allowed your team to seize and review all of the notebooks you found. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> now that's in stark contrast to ex president trump's case. he obstructed and diverted all the investigations. >> lisa rubin, what is the reagan precedent? >> first of all, it's not precedent in the way that a case is precedent. >> doj. >> it's precedent for not prosecuting something. reagan famously had a series of notebooks in which he had what had been classified information.

the department of justice found that indeed there was classified information in reagan's notebooks but that because he considered them personal property and it reflected his own essentially mental impressions and other recollections, it was not something that they were going to prosecute. it was on that basis that zoe lofgren is raising what she called the reagan precedent, which is a decision by the department of justice generally to be hands off with respect to notebooks of former presidents in which there may or may not be some form of classified information transcribed by them along with other information. >> she talks about how this is a stark contrast between biden and trump. compare the two things. >> i think first of all the volume is different. not with standing the fact that trump continues to say biden had more classified materials than him. the reality is the opposite is true. but even putting that aside, what really differentiates these things and robert hur talks about this in his report. is the willfulness and the continued willfulness exercised by former president trump when

he was notified by the national archives that he believed they had information that was classified in his possession in may of 2022. he then obfuscated and continued to evade their efforts to return it. the department of justice's efforts to have it returned for almost another 18 months before the events we refer to as the mar-a-lago search or what trump calls their raid. nothing could be further from the truth. not only was it an authorized search, but trump forced the department of justice to essentially play hide and seek with him. >> we watched for hours as republicans tried to get what they wanted out of hur, which is to say that joe biden did something terrible. he had a motivation to do it. and what democrats wanted to get out of robert hur, which is that he should not have characterized joe biden's mental state. it wasn't appropriate. and that oh, by the way, he also chose not to prosecute. not to pursue charges against

president biden because he couldn't find enough evidence to do so. i want to play two i think moments that stood out to us here. one is jim jordan talking about the eight million reasons joe biden had to keep these documents and the second one is -- i'm going the leave the second one for now. let's play this one first. >> he decided months before leaving office to write a book, to write a book. that was his motive. he knew the rules. he broke them because he was writing a book and you further say and he began meeting with the ghost writer while he was still vice president. there's the motive. mr. hur, how much did president biden get paid for his book? >> off the top of my head, i'm not sure if that information appears in the report. >> sure does. there's a dollar amount in there. you remember? >> i don't. it may be 8 million. >> $8 million. joe biden had 8 million reasons

to break the rules. classified information and shared it with the guy who was writing book. >> let's also play cori bush, democrat, on the way that democrats say this compares to what joe biden did. >> let's remind ourselves what donald trump has said and done. he refused to turn over the classified documents in his possession to the national archives. he is on tape sharing documents he said he could have declassified when he was president. he wrongly claimed the presidential records act lets him do what he wants and he was allowed to do everything he did. he also said on his right wing social media platform, quote, i'm allowed to do all of this. he continues to admit to his possession of these documents on the campaign trail. so this hearing is not a good

faith oversight effort. it is just the latest in a long line of destructive actions taken by this republican majority. >> ryan nobles joins us as well. who walked out of that hearing feeling good? >> you know, there was probably a little bit for everyone to take from this hearing. i talked to a source before this hearing took place who told me everyone was going to leave this largely disappointed because everybody was going to have a hard time scoring major points because there's a little bit of damage that's done to everyone in this report as you guys have kind of outlined. the thing is in a hearing like this, robert hur is a skilled federal prosecutor with a lot of experience in asking questions. so he also knows how to answer them. he went out of his way not to go beyond the parameters of the report that he'd already issued. when he was pressed on something, he referred back to the report. so it was very difficult to get him to kind of move outside the bound of what he had already said, but to your point, i think both republicans and democrats

did a pretty effective job of at least getting out the message that they were hoping to get out. what i was, i don't know if surprised is the right word, but i was impressed upon the most was how republicans seemed really insistent on kind of pointing out what they viewed was how donald trump was treated unfairly in regard to his, the indictments he's facing as it relates to classified documents versus president biden. obviously those are two completely different issues and they spent a lot of times conflating them. they had an opportunity here to kind of drill down on the issues they had with president biden. and i think one of the things that this is part of their investigation as well. right? obviously the special counsel conducted his own investigation into president biden's handling of classified documents but this is also part of the house republican impeachment inquiry. what's gotten much of the

attention has been their care of the foreign business dealings of hunter biden and james biden, the president's son and brother, but they've said from the very beginning that they've been concerned about classified documents and classified documents are part of their investigation. they didn't really seem to spend a whole heck of a lot of time trying to drill down on the misuse of classified documents in a way that you would think would further their impeachment investigation to get it to the point where they could make a case for high crimes and misdemeanors. they seemed much more interested in some ways carrying donald trump's water and minimizing the indictment he's facing in light of president biden being -- well, i think it's because when you look at which has the opportunity to have the most success, perhaps you know, kind of trying to water down the indictments that donald trump is facing in the court of public opinion. probably has a much better chance of them at this point

passing articles of impeachment. you know, there's just no appetite by most republicans right now to put articles of impeachment on the floor and they need every single one of them if they're going to do it. in many ways, there's just not a lot of there there. so they have a limited amount of time in this space to press hur in a forum in which all the cable networks, a lot of the broadcast outlets were taking this live. they decided a calculated decision here to use that time to help donald trump more than they did to help their impeachment inquiry, which i think speaks more to the status of the impeachment inquiry. >> thanks very much. joining us now, barbara mcquaid and charlie dent. i want to stick on the politics for a second because one of the things that also struck me when republicans were trying to say that joe biden did something really bad here by taking classified documents away. they drilled down on it. they tried to say it was a really big deal.

he was imperilling national security. and yet they didn't seem to have that same sort of anger toward donald trump. so does that help them to paint joe biden as a danger to national security when donald trump is facing the same thing but you know, exponentially different? >> well, i think that the hypocrisy is obvious with the kind of responses they're giving here. it either is a big deal when somebody mishandles classified information or it's not. so i think the most important takeaway for me is the comparison between the conduct of joe biden, which you know, he certainly was careless in the way he handled classified information and that's a serious issue, but in stark contrast to donald trump, who upon notification he had these things, refused to return them, obstructed justice, asked people to lie and to move boxes for him. that's what makes his conduct so

egregious and different from that of joe biden. >> charlie, answer that question if you can. >> well, politics of this is not good for anybody. the whole issue of mishandling classifies documents has become a muddied issue. certainly joe biden much more than so than joe, donald trump. he behaved better. trump did not. did not comply. he obstructed. he has been indicted. biden on the other hand, while he was careless and reckless, he at least was cooperative. so as a political matter, it's muddled but trump obviously, is clearly in much more trouble than biden is with respect to this whole situation. nobody looks particularly good but the politics is a muddled mess. >> barbara, what do you think of robert hur? >> i think he's trying to play it straight. i know he gets a lot of criticism from both sides for

either letting joe biden, you know, get off too easily or from others who thinks he has deliberately smeared him. i think he sounds like a careful prosecutor with one exception. i think he violates the principles of federal prosecution by disparaging someone he does not intend to prosecute. i think his answer was this is just my accurate assessment of what i observed to my boss and it was he who made this public. but that's, he's got to know that this document is going to be a public document. so i think he could have reached his conclusion in saying i do not believe there's sufficient evidence of willfulness to reach the conclusion without including what i thought were gratuitous details. i don't know that he has any political agenda. i doubt he does, but i do think it was an improper application of the rules of federal prosecution to include those details. >> the other thing that happened while we were watching is that

ken buck said he's not going to wait until the end of his term. the republican from colorado. that he's so sick and tired of washington and congress that he's going to leave in just a couple weeks and he said this to another network. quote, it is the worst year of the nine years and three months that i've been in congress and having talked to former members, it's the worst year in 40 to 50 years to be a congressman. but i'm leaving because i think there's a job to do out there that i want to go do. charlie, you've been a member of congress recently. what do you think of him saying former members say it's the worst year in 40 to 50 years to be a lawmaker? >> well, it certainly has been a very bad year for most members of congress. if you're a republican member, remember what they went through electing a speaker. it took them 15 rounds. they had a difficult time passing the debt ceiling. getting through without a government shutdown at the end of september then of course the removal of kevin mccarthy and the election of johnson.

so they spent much of this year just spinning their wheels. not able to get much done. they really don't, their house gop does not have a functional majority. and so i think ken buck is expressing that frustration. in fact, now that he's resigning, that razor thin majority is even that much thinner. maybe they can only lose two votes now, but they didn't have a functional majority to begin with. with buck gone, it won't make much of a difference. >> charlie, brenda, thank you very much. ahead, what donald trump just said he'll do on day one regarding january 6th convicts. and it's off to georgia. after tonight, joe biden and donald trump could clinch their nominations. what that actually means. plus, he blew the whistle on boeing's safety practices and was in the middle of testifying in an explosive lawsuit against the company. then he was found dead. what happened to john barnett? we're back in 60 seconds. n barn? we're back in 60 seconds bad bo.

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donald trump says there are three things he's going to do on day one if he is re-elected. first, close the border. second, drill, baby, drill, and third, free those convicted of january 6th crimes or as he's called them, january 6th hostages being wrongfully imprisoned. he's flirted with releasing some of the past in some speeches but this is the first time that i can recall at least that he said all of them and on day one. that's more than 500 people including daniel rodriguez who's serving a 12 and a half year sentence for driving a stun gun, you can see it here, into the capitol hill officer, michael fanone's neck. peter schwartz, who's serving 14 years for throwing a folding chair at officers while wielding a tire knocker. there's that spray right there.

thomas webster serving ten years for tackling an officer and pulling off his mask, forcing him to choke on pepper spray. not sure if we're seeing that video, but this is more video from the moment. and patrick mccoy who's serving seven years for crushing daniel hodges with the officer's on shield. you can see that right there. joining us now is vaughn hillyard and nbc news justice reporter, ryan riley. ryan, tell us more. donald trump says he wants to pardon all of them. get them out of jail. what would that mean? what would that logistically mean for the justice department? >> this is the largest investigation in history. it's a lot of defendants, tough to keep them straight. this would be a massive undertaking to get rid of these charges. including people who brutally assaulted law enforcement on that day. just really terrible attacks on law enforcement. the most recent arrest was

somebody who fired off a gun at the capitol on january 6th itself. someone who nbc news identified more than two years ago but it wasn't clear until recently they fired that weapon and they were arrested and picked up on friday. there's a detention hearing for them on wednesday, tomorrow. that's a small segment of these individuals are held pretrial. a lot of them have been sentenced but we're talking about a universe of 1,300 people who have been charged overall. about 950 have been convicted in some capacity and about 500 have been served, sentenced to time in prison. and there's a mix of reactions from these defendants once they make it into court. just a couple of weeks ago, i actually talked with brian mock, a january 6th defendant. you can take a listen. >> i think if all we've heard is this is a big lie, let me see what that evidence is. and that's why a lot of us showed up on january 6th was

because the courts quite frankly had shut this down without letting the public see what evidence was brought forth. and that's what we wanted, was to have evidence heard. and if people were misled, if people were spoke from a position of authority on information that wasn't correct, they need to be honest about that. and if there is evidence, we need the see that. it's been, you know, coming up on year four and we're in the exact same spot as we were before and we need to be better. >> so there's really a mix here. we have some individuals who have really seen the light. realized they were tricked and fooled. that this was a lie about the election in 2020. then you have people who still believe that lie today and you have people in the middle like brian mock who say that if this was a lie with that caveat, it was a lie. we should clarify. but if, he's saying that essentially, that if it was a

lie, then there needs to be accountability more broadly for politicians who were spreading that lie. >> he rightly says it. it is been four years and he hasn't seen evidence. i wonder how much longer he's going to wait for the evidence that doesn't exist. vaughn, is this something donald trump did on a whim or is it something the campaign wants him to do? >> donald trump has suggested for months now that he would potentially pardon the january 6th defendants. he has called on joe biden to -- >> he's caveated it. not the violent ones. >> this is a different ball game here. ryan has been on the front lines of reporting the stories of these defendants. i think it's important to understand how many of them said the actions they took on the day of the capitol attack were because of donald trump. you'll recall during the debate, donald trump telling the poud boys to stand back and stand by. donald trump in his eyes, these defendants, a large number of them, were the most loyal of supporters. they were there and showed up

that day on behalf of them. donald trump and these defendants here, their own innocence is tied together. when you look at the numbers, look at the polling data. less than half of independent voters in america think that donald trump is legally culpable for any of his actions after the 2020 election or around the january 6th attack. so for him to go out and make the case that these folks are hostages as he calls them, have been targeted by the biden administration, it's part of his effort as we approach the general election to make a stand. one he cannot avoid at this point because he's already been indicted on charges stemming from the efforts, he is making the decision to stand in solidarity with some of the most loyal supporters. those who attacks the capitol on that day. >> charlie, i was watching before i came into the studio this republican group that's got $50 million to spend on trying to convince other republicans not to vote for donald trump.

they're taking testimonials from trump voters. people who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. and who are now saying they're not going to vote for him again. and in just doing my scroll through all of the testimonials, a lot of them, if not the majority, say january 6th is what got them to change their mind. they were appalled by what happened on that day. how does this, does this help donald trump to go further into this? to dig in his heels and say he's going to pardon these people who are on camera committing violent crimes? >> well, i can't imagine that donald trump's campaign, his campaign staff, think this is a good idea. you know, elections are about expanding one's base. by suggesting that he is going to pardon and release these people from prison, he is putting himself in a position where he's completely going to turn off a lot of these independent swing voters. he's going to scare the dickens

out of his down ballot republicans. particularly in districts that joe biden won. this is just simply terrible for all of them. it just looks like trump is not even making an attempt to move beyond the hardest core maga base, so i don't think the politics of this. i think this is just trump going off in a, you know, in a snit. he's in a rage. he's angry and full of grievance. that's what this is. as a political matter though, i don't think it makes any sense at all and to release violent criminals who assaulted police officers on that day or breaking down the doors of the capitol. so really as a political matter, it really makes no sense to me. >> let's play one of those voters i was just talking and. dave from pennsylvania talking about why he's not going to vote for donald trump again. >> donald trump has caused considerable damage to our democracy about lying about the 2020 election. it was a fair election. there's absolutely no evidence it's stolen.

i feel he's an egotist cal person who just cares about himself. doesn't care about the constitution, the country. doesn't really care about the people he serves. only cares about power. if you want a guy that's leading the oldest democracy in the world, you know, the world's number one superpower, you want this guy leading us? i don't. >> again, this is gop voters against trump. it's interesting to go to the website to scroll through the testimonials which are not on a person's laptop or their phone, just detailing the reasons why they're not going to vote for donald trump. we also heard a lot of people on there talking about how they don't really think that donald trump is going to fight for the country or enact policy based on what the country needs but rather himself or his rich friends. i'll play one more. this is mike. he's a gop voter in southeastern pennsylvania. also another pennsylvania voter.

let's play that. >> my name is mike. i live in southeastern pennsylvania. just outside of philadelphia. and i am a former trump voter. donald trump scares the hell out of me. he does. he really scares me to death. there's a lot of reasons that i don't support donald trump but what really turned me was in 2017 i remember him saying to this room full of billionaires, i just saved you guys a ton of money. i was thinking, i thought to myself, doesn't care about me. he's unfit for the office. donald trump is mentally unfit for the office. i, i don't know how i voted for him the first time around. there's no way i could possibly ever vote for him again. >> charlie, do you think these kind of testimonials are more effective than ads, big ads

trying to compare and contrast the policies or people? >> oh, absolutely. when you hear the testimonials, these are powerful testimonials of people who are admittedly trump voters and have had enough. they're frustrated. i think the very powerful message. much more so than trying to contrast why joe biden is better than donald trump. i don't think that is at all particularly persuasive. this on the other hand is. these are people who are showing regret and remorse for trump. they're identifying the problems, that trump really doesn't care about them. he cares about himself. he's not looking forward. he's looking back with all this rage and hostility at what happened on january 6th. i think the group by doing these testimonials is actually providing a real public service and probably is doing more to help biden this way than by actually trying to encourage anyone to vote for joe biden but just simply trying to get people not to vote for trump.

so i think this has been a very effective strategy to keep identifying voters. >> and they're not voters who are talking about how much they love joe biden. they're talking about donald trump and how they voted for him once or twice. i saw voters from pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona, virginia, swing states. states that are going to matter come together. charlie dent, thank you very much. coming up, a boeing whistleblower is found dead seven years after raising safety concerns. what happened? first though, what's about to happen in georgia primary that's moe mentus for the general election? mentus for th general election efficiencies, and greater agility. (jen) that's enterprise intelligence. (vo) it's your vision, it's your verizon. the right age for neutrogena® retinol? that's whenever you want it to be. it has derm-proven retinol that targets vital cell turnover,

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officially be in the general election with both candidates becoming their party's presumptive nominees as voters in mississippi, washington, and georgia cast their ballots. but while the nominations are now inevitable, the campaigns are still watching for variables. specifically in georgia, trying to decide whether the state leaning red or blue. joining us now, blayne alexander from georgia. atlanta, specifically. what are the variables? >> reporter: well, you posed the question that is on the minds of a lot of people i've talked to over the past 24 hours. whether georgia will lean red or

blue. we've been talking to voters trying to find out. what is clear with voters we've spoken to is that they understand the importance georgia plays in this election. the candidates certainly understand it due to the fact they held dualing rallies here. we've been speaking with people in fulton county and gwinnett county. one was a republican voter, the other who was democrat but has voted republican in the past. >> i do want my children to have a future and i do want them to have that american dream. right now, there is, i don't see any hope from trump. i'm sorry to say it like that. he's not for the little guy. >> anytime you have a president what will call a secretary of state to ask him to find him some votes even though it was

already stated that joe biden had won georgia. so i just thought that was just really, not being american. it was being really to me unpatriotic. >> reporter: so what you heard there from those two voters was the name, donald trump. that's something that's come out of voters' mouths repeatedly. when i've spoken to voters over the past two weeks, nobody's enthusiastic about the choices at the top of either party's ticket but they've made it clear to me that doesn't mean they're not going to come out and vote. i spoke with one strategist who told me that for democrats, the single best weapon they have in their chamber of keeping the state blue is the fact that donald trump is on the ballot. they say he's the great unifier in terms of getting democrats to turn out against him, but republicans see an opening as well. they say due to the fact there's not a lot of enthusiasm for joe biden on the democratic side, they see a chance to make up those fewer than 12,000 votes and hopefully carry the state this time around. >> thank you very much.

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the ntsb determined the plane left the boeing plant without critical bolts that hold the plug in place. a scathing new faa audit also found boeing failed to comply with its own quality control procedures. >> we're working with boeing and demanding that they come up with a very detailed plan within the next 90 days to fix the quality issues that are out there. >> yeah, "the new york times" and nbc news now confirming that 33 of 89 faa audits into boeing, boeing failed. 33 of 89 audits. boeing today in an email to employees encouraged them to see something, say something if you see any issue with quality control or lapses in the assembly process, speak up. and the company, as you know, is under tremendous pressure, katy. their stock is down 24% this year, down about 46% since they had that initial 737 max-8 crash in indonesia. >> unacceptable safety concerns, unacceptable safety lapses. i think most people would say.

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florida's so-called "don't say gay" bill is changing after parents, students, and teachers, along with advocates, sued. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, antonia hilton. so they sued. what did they sue about and and what happened? >> they wanted to put a stop to this law, because we heard from students and parents that it led to this massive chilling effect. that lgbtq students felt like they were further marginalized by their students, not have rainbow colors or pride pins or flags. we heard from families where kids were going back into the closet or no longer talking about who they were. so they feel like this settlement is a huge win, it

strikes down major parts of what this law had done. what's going to stay is teachers are not going to be able to talk about sexual orientation as part of classroom instruction, but they can still talk to kids about lgbtq identities, those books can go back into libraries, there can be gay/straight alliance clubs, something that in many clubs got canceled around the state. the cultural impact is huge, even if the core part of the law is in effect. >> isn't it like some kids felt like they couldn't talk about their parents if they had two moms or dads. >> absolutely. kids felt like they couldn't talk about their family lives if they had two parents of the same gender. and teachers in florida told us that they were instructed by their bosses to remove any evidence, any photos of their families if their year. that they had to remove any type of pride pins or something that they were proud of who they were. >> so is there still room for argument there? >> it is still fuzzy. and i think the part -- part of

the story that makes this even fuzzier is that both sides are saying, this is a win. the advocates are excited about the fact that they'll be able to bring some of the tone and the frustration around the culture warring that's going on in school down, because of these changes, but desantis' team is saying, this is a win because the instructional piece of all of this is still in place. >> that's really interesting. but i think a real big and significant change that there was any settlement that adjusted the words in that law clarified it after it passed. antonia hilton, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. and that is going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi, there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. america, meet trump employee number five. the mar-a-lago staffer dropping a bombshell in the classified documents case