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this is separate for mifepristone. >> the organize arguments are in a couple of weeks. but that why this is important to be looking at what they are doing with judicial nominees and why it is critical they are pushing them through and how interconnected that process is with reproductive rights. >> and it highlights the latitude, the next administration is going to have on the levers of the federal government independent of congressional input to either e pandore strict the access women have both to reproductive services and to contraception. the title 10 case is about what they did to expand access for kids. so, it is all connected. and it is important to remember. >> thank you. important to remember. >> thank you. that is "all in" on this thursdayn" night. alish wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. >> amazing we're talking about theng word contraception being t fwated in b the united states o
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america. we're going to have more on that in our show as well. thank you atas home for joining me this hour. today we got the news tat donald trump's one criminal case, the one criminal case that was likely toe go to trial before e november election may be delayed. manhattan district attorney alvin bragg's hush money case was set tos go to trial on mar 25th, less than two weeks from today, but now that date is in question. now,s trump's legal strategy i all his cases has been to push them off as long as possible, preferably to the month of neb ruary. today d.a.'s bragg's off consented to another delay of the trial. the issue at hand is a new trove of records turned over by the feds in the southern district of new york, tens of thousands of
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records. specifically 31,000 pages of records the u.s. attorney's office just handed over to bragg's office yesterday. now, the d.a. specifically pins this newest delay on trump, saying thaton trump's legal tea waited until two months ago to request this massive trove of records from the u.s. attorney's office. and don't get me wrong, i am sure trump's legal team is using every opportunity that exists to create delays in this case. it is what they do. but d.a. bragg's office and the u.s.ic attorneys office know th. and one of it reasons this appears to be happening so late in b the game is because the u. attorneys office requested repeated extensions that trump's side consent d to according to alvin bragg. when the u.s. attorney's office asked trump for a comment on the delay, the office declined to respond. the fact this latest delay might bow a responsibility of the arm
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of the justice department would be a big deal on its own, but this case is not alone. this delay would seem to fit a pattern. just hours after merrick garland was sworn in as attorney general, he heldsw a private briefing to get up to speed on what he called was his highest priority, bringing to justice the people responsible for january 6th. but then more than a year passed. witnesses in the fake y elector scheme told "the washington post" that they assumed the casu was dead because no one at the doj was contacting them. remember trump's infamous call to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, the call where trump pressured raffensperger to find him 11,000 votes? well, key witnesses to that call iny early 2021 told "the washington post" that no one at the fbigt contacted them until 2023, two years after the fact. what was happening at the department of justice in that
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time? well, thanks to great reporting from "the washington post" we know the answer too that questn is not much. there were internal debates and heated arguments over this choice,rg but for more than a yr the justice department policy was to go after the little guys and work their way up. as one former justice department official told "the post," you couldn't use the "t" word. meaning you couldn't mention trump. the way "the washington post" reports it, the department of justice was so worried about looking like they were prosecuting donald trump forg political reasons, that they gave trump treatment no other defendant in america would get. they effectively ignored him despite the fact he was at the very center of this plot. it wasn't until intrepid reporting and the house january 6thho committee started unearthg troves of evidence implicating trump and his top aides in the january 6th riot, which, duh, it
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wasn't until all of that started coming up publicly, that the justice department actually began investigating trump in earnest. ultimately the fbi didn't open an investigation into bitrump. the guy at the beating heart of everything, until 15 months after the capitol attack. key witnesses in the meantime may have forgotten specifics or deleted e-mails. and it also set the actual prosecution of this case back more than a year. and now the window of time in which that case could make it to trial before the november election is so small, it seems nearlyit impossible that the american public will get ae ruling before they have to vote for president. we saw a similar delay coming from the department of justice in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. remembersi that form trump's lawyers signed on his behalf in the june of 2022? it claimed trump's legal team
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had prepared a diligent search and turned over the documents in trump'ss possession. yet again thanks to extensive reporting in "the washington post," it is almost that point, almost where the entire classified documents investigation ended. it turnssi out there was a months-long fight between prosecutors who had evidence trump and his lawyers might not be telling the whole truth, prosecutors who wanted to search mar-a-lago and the fbi.nd the fbi wanted to take trump and his lawyers at their word. they did not want to touch donald trump. the optics were too controversial. that infighting delayed the actual search of mar-a-lago for months. when mar-a-lago was ultimately searched fbi agents found 100 classified documents, 18 of them top18 secret. by the fall of 2022 prosecutors were reportedly ready to charge trump based on what they'd
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found. it looked like a fairly straightforward case, but they did not charge trump. before they could, trump announced he was running for re-election and the calculations within the department of justice changed. once again the department deferred to trump and his political trrealities, to avoid anything that might even look like political prosecution, attorney general merrick garland appointed jack smith as special counsel. now, smith worked really quite quickly. but q ultimately he didn't char trump until june of the following year. that setback the prosecution time line another eight months. now, the classified documents case is currently scheduled -- scheduled to go on trial on may 20th, but that date is widely expected to be bumped back. potentially delaying that trial just past the novemberla electi and missing that key date by a matter of months, after being delayed nearly a year by, yes, judge aileen cannon, but also
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indecision, infighting, and the passing of the case to a special counsel at the department of justice. >> do you -- looking back now dc you think the department took too long to bring these cases maybe? >> specialse prosecutors follow the facts>> and the law. they brought cases when they thought they were ready. >> so we already know that one of the reasons trump might not face accountability before the election in either of his federal criminal cases is because the departmentl of justice dragged its feet and fought intermy and was cautious to a fault. but now tonight we learn even in a state-level prosecution in d.a. bragg's new york state hush money case, the most likely case to see trial before the november election, even in that case, it looks like the justice department may be playing a very real role in delaying justice. joining me now are former fbi general counsel andrew weissmann, and nyu law professor
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felica murray. together they're authors of the number one -- not bad, guys -- "the new york times" best-seller. congratulations on this. it's not the holidays, but it's not too early to buy copies for every person in your family. we'll talk about that in a second. i first have to get your opinion on what's happened in the new york hush money case. onus the outside i understand trump's doing everything he can toer delay, but what's going on with the department ofel justic and their ability towi get the d.a. and the defendants, the documents they need in a timely fashion? >> so tself-inflicted wound. you know, it doesn't look good especially when we're about to get a decision on d.a. fani willis. even if there's a decision not to disqualify her, the combination looks really poor. atre the very least this is a massive screws up on the part the southern district of new york prosecutors. i mean really poor judgment not toll have turned everything ovea yeare ago when the d.a.'s offi
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asked for this information. if you've not inculpaatory information, you should turn that over. if you've got exculpatory information that could help the defendant, you should turn that over. this isn't going to be fatal to the case. t there will be a trial. one thing to note the d.a. submission today said there's still more tobm come, so it's worth knowing they do not yet know neither side, the d.a. nor the defense knows what the full scope is. i thinksc there could be additional information that's additional bad asks by michael cohen. remember michaelha cohen pled guilty icthere, and the souther district of new york prosecutors had publicly said at the employee hearing how much they distrusted him. they were very much fighting with our office, the special counsel's office. we were saying he should get credit, they were saying, no, he shouldn't. so thereng could be more information about that. there could be more information aboutfo allan weisselberg, becae
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reading the tea leaves it appears he may have given more information to them, mayay have testified in the grand jury, but may have lied. >> and he has already pled guilty to perjury so -- >> exactly. but there could be just more complications there there also could be more discussions about the theory of the case of the federal campaign violation case. whyl do i say that? because let's go back in the time machine to when bill barr was the attorney general and was fighting with the acting u.s. attorney saying you should essentially get rid of the case, and sheri pushed back. there could just be a whole mass of bmaterial, and that's what m sort of keeping my eye on is sort of like what is the information, and is it going to be something that's really meaningful, exactly. what i don't fundamentally understand and this is according to d.a. bragg, he asked for a lot of this material last year and didn't get it, and then trump asks for it in january, and so far 103,000 i think is
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the count pages of documents have been turned over. i mean what might possibly account forha that. >> i think one thing you have to understand is although all of these u.s. attorneys offices are part of the federal department of justice, their prosecutorial offices working under the department of justice, they all involve a fair amount of autonomy. they taketo that sovereignty que seriously. and so,gn yes, they don't alway play well t with other offices, state level prosecutions. like they're doing their own thing quite a lot of the time. and this may be one of those situations. i think the thing toof take fro all ofg this is that this dela is not necessarily alvin bragg's fault. he definitely asked for this information a year d ago. it wasn't forthcoming. now it's been disclosed and apparently it is an avalanche of documents with more to come. and he's done the right thing which is to concede there should be a delay. he's pushed back on the
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defendant's request for a 90-day delay. he's requested a 30-day delay. that's sufficient to go through the documents. he's prioritized the rights of thehe defendants to review the documents against him, review the documents about those information who might be testifying against him. >> he's the one saying a 30-day delay would be fine by me, i could do the delay today but also take it inod a month when i've got time to prepare for it. one of the things i don't understand, andrew, is he makes note of the fact that the feds effectively said we need another delay, mr. trump, iner terms of getting you this material, repeatedly asking for extensions. all trump wantsfo to do is dela this thing. what would account for -- first of all, they were asked for this material last year, asked in january, andye they're still saying we need more time, we need more time, and now it's the eve of the trial beginning effectively, and they're still
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not done giving documents. how does that process? dauz that seem plausible to you? how does the process work that it might be so greatly slowed? >> well, the one thing i don't think happened is i don't think main justice was involved. it could be, but i just don't think that's the case. i agree with melissa u.s. attorneys offices can in a lot of circumstances particularly the southern district of new york just decide this on their own. that doesn't answer your question. that sort ofsn deals with, you know, was merrick garland somehow part of this? as we've discussed, i have my issues in terms of like thepede or lack thereof with respect to the attorney lgeneral, but i don't think this is something i would immediately jump to him. it's hard to know how this could happen. i can tell you my reaction and friends who had worked in the d.a.'s office or worked in the u.s. w attorney's office all ha the same reaction, which is not
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something i could say on-air. >> on this family program. >> because it is either just a colossal blunder or just such a wrong view in terms of the judgment call here, in terms of what needs to be done. and the idea it so clearly took alvin bragg by surprise meant this normally -- at the very least-- if you thought you had huge cache of documents you'd call up the d.a. and say we just found -- it's clear it didn't happen. >> that is notable, too. donald trump has been saying throughout all these investigations and now these indictments that all of these various law enforcement officials are working in tandem, this isin a collusive effort to selectively prosecute him. this makes clear that is not the case. the southern district ofot new york is not working with alvin bragg. >> just wildly dysfunctional, not coordinating anything.
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>> complete dysfunction but certainly not the collusion he has implied. >>he not a great defense, of course. >> they're so dysfunctional they can't be colluding. andrew, i've got to psh back a little bit. i'm notac suggesting alvin brag wasti the puppeteer but i do thk this was a week robert hur has gone to the hill with this highly controversial report that the white house said -- that i think a lot of folks not even just democrats say was filled with just, you know, out of school commentary about president biden's mental acuity. the mere appointment of robert hur was aoi subject of debate. and then when he came up with what seemed so political in nature and not to the support of the current occupant of the white house, it all serves to paint a picture of a justice department thatof seems sort of hopelessly concerned with how they're going to be perceived on the right. >> so i agree with that. i'm juste trying to be sort of
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judicious about sort of taking each set of circumstances at the same time and looking at them to give them sort of fair weight. i agree with you with rob hur. i think that is a small "p" political decision so you appoint someone who's a republican. if you appoint rob hur that's what you get. i think it is absolutely right to be critical of that decision, and i think it's important because i think it deals with sort of what happens next, an important milestone to say, you know what, this is what you get if you don't actually back your people in thinking anybody, judges, prosecutors, jurors, witnesses will act, you know, out of principle. i just think in this situation i don't know what was motivating the southern district of new york. i don't think they would have coordinated this. i do thinke w merrick garland,
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may make wrong decisions, but i do not d see him trying to slow this down by saying do not turn inculpatory information over to prosecutors and exculpatory. he'll feel he'll need to turn over both of those thing tuesday defense. >> merrick garland should have been writing all these prosecutors in the u.s. attorneys offices below him like sea biscuit to get this done. it doesn't have to be nefarious to be problematic. like he's in charge, and they report to him like this needsed to be done, the defendant had a right to information. i agree this may likely fall with the office, but the buck ultimately stops with merrick garland. >> yaush i agreeh with that. and just think the chances merrick garland knew -- he may
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have been reading it the same way dee did, and of course you're right to be like ultimately he runs the office and he's responsible. the idea this wouldn't be turned over, i'm pretty sure the extent they didn't know at main justice their reaction was the same as all of ours, which is you've got to be kidding. >> you've got to be kidding is my refrain from for this block of news tonight. please stay with me. i have soy many more questions about so so many more top kz. i should note tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern andrew and melissa will be co-hosting a live msnbc special on their book the trump indictments. tomorrow right here on msnbc. we have a lot more tonight including vice president kamala harris andon her words of warni to blue states where abortion is still legal. be very, very concerned. but first the judge in the former president's classified
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while donald trump has managed to delay his d.c. federal election interference case and quite likely his new york hush money case, today down in florida trump was doing his best to do the same thing in his classified documents case. that's where trump's lawyers
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have been arguing that the charges trump violated in the espionage act -- that the charges trump violated in the espn act are too vague, that trump as a former president can't be held to its standard, and that consequentially the charges should be tossed out. judge aileen cannon responded a few hours later saying while trump's legal team had some arguments warranting serious consideration, she would not dismiss the charges in question. cannon did, however, leave the door open for trump to raise the issue again in connection with jury instruction briefing and/or other appropriate motions. in other words, the proverbial can has been kicked down the proverbial road. back with me now is andrew weissmann. andrew, am i reading that right this is aileen cannon just punting on this call, and what does that practically mean? >> i think you have it absolutely right. and i think it's really important people not read this is as, oh, she ruled for the
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government. this is the worst possible decision for the government that she made today, and you're going to be like why. this is why. so if she had said to the government, you know, you win, obviously that's great for the government. she thinks it's right, and then what would happen is trump were convicted, he could appeal that legal issue. if she had said to the government you lose, the government gets to appeal that and go to the 11th circuit. that's the 11th circuit where judge cannon has been reversed not once but twice. what she is trying to do is avoid at all costs doing anything that allows the government to go up to the 11th circuit. because what can they do, they can remove her -- >> remove her from the case. >> so this is saying, oh, i think there are serious issues donald trump is raising. and i think this is really a matter of quite some concern, but you know what, i'm going to decide this later. and so it's denied without
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prejudice to renewal. that just means there's no decision. plus, she's putting a little -- you know, this little bon bon of like, oh, this is a serious issue. that the worst possible thing for the government because they have no recourse now, and she then can just push this off. they cannot appeal it at this point. >> and trump can continue to bring it back up and slow the case down, is that right? >> yeah, he's -- by the way, it's because there's so many motions he can do this. the other thing is i want to point out the irony this is a vague statute. there are scores of people -- scores of people including during the trump presidency who have been prosecuted for this. the indictment itself in paragraphs 23 and 24 point out donald trump's own statements about these laws saying that they need to be enforced more, not less. he wanted a higher penalty for
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them. now that he's a defendant, suddenly these laws are vague and no one can understand what's going on. that argument has been denied by everyone who is sitting in jail has lost that. >> right. >> so this is not a vague statute. so that puts in context -- >> how outrageous her decision is. >> exactly. this is one it took all day and people are like why is this taking all day? this is something you deny outright. maybe, yes, you want to hear somebody for half an hour, fine. this is one i really can't say is inexperience. just over and over again she has shown that she is not being even handed. >> and he's making similarly meritless arguments on the presidential records act and saying this is -- they're saying this is political persecution, and she's entertaining hearings on all of this, right? >> all of it including, you know, the favorite, which is immunity. >> yes, presidential immunity. >> which i love because that's when we're, guess what, you were
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president when this happened. and i keep analogizing this is a bank robber going into a bank, robbing it with a gun, shooting the guard. he's prosecuted, and he says, judge cannon, i cannot be prosecuted because i legally owned the gun. >> right, exactly. >> that's his argument. >> and she's entertaining the argument. >> i can't wait for her to say these are serious issues. >> warranting serious consideration. >> does it say anything to you that two weeks ago she held a hearing to decide on the trial date for this case? and before she's even said that she's going through this very tedious series of hearings on the puppy cot notions? >> i hope i am wrong but the chances she's going to set a trial before the general election are not even infinitesimal. i hope i'm wrong, i hope i've
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misjudged her, but i don't think that's the case. she still on the books has this main trial date. there's not a single person in the world who thinks that's going to go forward, and she hasn't set a new date. you need a date because you need to block it on everyone's calenders and everyone works to that deadline. this is real life where everyone says here's the deadline and she hasn't done that. the idea that's going to be before the general election, i hate to give everyone the bad news. >> no, it's theater with a cowered in the seat. andrew weissmann, thank you for your time, my friend. mazel tov on the book. >> thank you so much. >> still ahead tonight how governor kristi noh, but first
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vice president kamala harris visited planned parenthood today with an important message. you want to stop republicans for coming for abortion, ivf, and now contraception, you need to go to the ballot box in november. i'll talk about that next. n november i'll talk about that next.
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better position to tell women what they need, to tell women what is in their best interest. we have to be a nation that trusts women. >> today vice president kamala harris did something no other vice president or president has ever done, she visited an abortion clinic. harris traveled to a planned parenthood clinic in st. paul, minnesota, to highlight the stakes of the 2024 election. even in a blue state like minnesota where democrats control all the levers of state power and where reproductive freedoms are protected, a federal ban would nullify all of that. and the presumptive republican nominee for president who biden or harris are running against expressed support for a nationwide ban. democrats bid to highlight the stakes here is only strengthened by what's happened elsewhere in the country. in texas basic access to contraception is now under attack. this week a panel of appeals court judges upheld a texas law
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requiring parental consent for minors to obtain contraception. while this case might be about teens at present, it could also signal a fight ahead. at least one supreme court justice has already documented his desire to overturn the right to contraception among the population at large. joining me now is lea litman, one of the co-hosts of the great podcast, district scrutiny. and back with me is melissa murray, one of the other co-hosts and nyu law professor. melissa, thank you for staying. just don't ever leave. leah, first let's talk about this texas decision, right, because some people are saying this is just affirming a kind of general parental consent decree that exists in the state of texas, but if you read it sort of in the real world, it sure sounds like they're coming from contraception here. >> absolutely, because they could have said the exact same
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thing when they began their war on abortion access. initially first they adopted laws that required parental consent and enacting a law and that was part of the longer process that led to court eventually overruling roe v. wade and ruling protections in dobbs, and what we're seeing now is the beginning of the same thing happening as justice thomas signaled to dobbs he wanted it to happen more quickly. >> it just feels like clarence thomas sends up a flare on like the crazy topic of his choice, and out there in the country conservatives follow suit. i mean, do you think this is ultimately going to be if not this case a case will head to the supreme court? >> this isn't about simply stalling abortion. if you wanted to end abortion,
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you would actually be in favor of stalling access to contraception. it's not about abortion, not about preventing unwanted pregnancies but about controlling sexuality and in particular enforcing a set of gender roles like women who rely on abortion and birth control as means of controlling their production capacity. justice thomas is very much the intellectual genius behind this entire project. he often writes alone on the court. he did not get anyone to sign onto his concurrence in dobbs. it doesn't matter because he has an army of former law clerks sitting in places who hear these flares as they go up, listen to what he's saying, read the opinions, and then put them out in their own courts as part of the law in their circuits. that's what we're seeing in the fifth circuit, we've seen it before, and justice thomas has been shepherding this completely bogus narrative that abortion is
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linked to the eugenics movement and has been used as a tool to -- the african americantuant. no one else signed on in concurrence to his opinion saying that, but then it appeared in lower court opinions and appeared in the footnote in dobbs. he is the sort of evil genius behind all of this. and when he's done for the night, he goes back to his office and strokes a hairless cat and prides himself on what he's done. >> the end of bodily autonomy as we know it in this country. can you talk a bit about leah mitchell involved in this case. talked about him a lot. he's done a great and enormous amount of work in terms of forwarding the conservative agenda through the courts. >> yes, he's a busy guy. he was a judge in the medical abortion case, the mifepristone case the judge is going to be hearing in a few weeks.
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he's also the judge in the title 10 contraception case. he's also the judge where there's a multi-million dollar lawsuit filed against planned parenthood in his court and they're filing these cases against him, in particular his division because they know based on his track record he was essentially appointed to do all the things he's doing now, to make it more difficult to make medical abortion access more available, and just outlining all these theories and some judges on the fifth circuit pick up on and the supreme court is able to steadily move the law in a more conservative direction. even if they don't do everything the judge does, even if they don't do everything they are still steadily moving the law away from access to contraception, access to reproductive freedom, access to bodily autonomy, and that is again what the judge is put on the bench to do and what he's doing. >> mitchell is the guy who came up with the bounty hunter abortion law in texas.
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>> sb 8:00 allowed today go into effect well before dobbs essentially ending abortion access in the second largest state in the union before dobbs did, a precusser of things to come, he's also a lawyer who argued before the united states supreme court -- >> the 14th amendment. >> we've talked about this endlessly on our podcast. and we think he's auditioning to be our next attorney general. >> he has basically made statements, right, to the press indicating he wants in the next trump administration to begin enforcing the concept act, a victorian era law from the 1870s more than 100 lpens have signed onto a brief that say allows him to ban abortion medication without having to pass a new law. this is a theory john mitchell says let's not talk about until the end of the election. >> he's great around these end runs around mujortorian preferences because they realize there's unlikely to be
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mujortorian support and even if they're able to get control of congress and the presidency, there would be considerable push back. all they need to enforce is a republican president with a department of justice willing to prioritize this as an enforcement priority, and they're in business. they will resuscitate this zombie law and begin enforcing it, and any article that might be used for abortion, and that includes long acting forms of contraception. >> this is coming as they're talking about litigating -- well, they are litigating ivf. once you have allowed sort of christian nationalism to infuse your party platform to the degree all interference with contraception which is where the life begins is unlawful and unethical, that sort of dictates what your party's priorities are in terms of policy. >> they have opened the door to this, because once you start
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saying states have a legitimate interests in treating fetuses, unviable fetuses as potential human beings, that doesn't end with abortion. it extends to contraception and ivf and all manners of reproductive health care. honestly this was happening even before dobbs. melissa mentioned treating contraception. the supreme court essentially said some employers were entitled to believe and act on their belief some forms of contraception did not have to offer that form of health insurance coverage to their employees. so the seeds have already been planted and they're just waiting again for the next republican president knowing the republican supreme court will let them get away with basically anything to test the limits of the law and try to bring a federal abortion ban to life without having to enact it into law. >> that's why kamala harris is in minnesota today. you could be in a blue state with democrats controlling the state, have all the protections you think you need, but it matters who's sitting in the
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white house. thank you so much for this chariot ride into darkness. i appreciate your time. still ahead tonight, would you be interested in purchasing a trump nft? how about some gold sneakers, what about a brand new smile? donald trump and kristi nome, sure hope you're interested. i'll discuss governor nome's new contributions to the maga grift next. new contributions to the maga grift next
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when donald trump became the republican nominee for president in to16 his daughter ivanka spoke at the republican national convention. the next morning she tweeted this -- shop ivanka's look from our #rncspeech with a link to her clothing line. he sat down with an interview with "60 minutes." and then ivanka sent an e-mail urging people to purchase the ivanka trump branded bracelet she wore in that interview. shortly after she took office kellyanne conway, a senior white house advisor, went on fox news. >> go buy ivanka's stuff -- it's a wonderful line. i own some of it. i'm going to give a free commercial here. go buy it today, everybody can find it online. >> that free commercial was actually a big scandal. the office of government ethics found that kellyanne conway violated federal standards of conduct.
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the chair of the house oversight committee at the time, republican jason chaffetz, now a fox news personality, this is what he said about kellyanne conway's commercial. >> when kellyanne conway said what she said about buying that particular product, that was wrong, wrong, wrong. i called it out. >> there are a lot of ways in which donald trump and his family have sought to profit off the presidency, but using one's candidacy and subsequent office to sell goods and services is a uniquely trumpian innovation. now, trump has kept all of this up in his current candidacy by hawking everything from digital trading cards to really appalling trump-branded gold sneakers. and now other republicans want in that on that game. >> well, hi, i'm kristi noem, the governor of.
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i chose the team at smile texas because they're the best. >> that was kristi noem, the current republican governor of south carolina doing what might be best described as a 5-minute infomercial for a texas based cosmetics company. that video may also have been illegal. yesterday the consumer protection group, travelers united, sued governor noem for violating consumer protection law by failing to label the video as a paid advertisement. it is a remarkable thing for any politician to do, but especially for someone like governor noem, widely considered to be on trump's vice presidential short list, but maybe that's the point. ready to show you're ready to be part of team trump, than jumping on the grift. the republican party's snake oil problem coming up next. party'sl problem coming up next or an unbearable itch. this painful blistering rash
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south dakota governor kristi noem was one of the many republican officials who attended president biden's inauguration back in 2021. she even congratulated biden in a post online. congratulations to president biden and vice president harris on your inauguration today. and then she tried to sell some gloves. thankful for my gloves. use discount noem for 15% off. it was an unusual congratulations. especially considering it's not even from the governor's home state. it's a montana-based company. we may never know why exactly governor noem chose to spotlight her gloves at a presidential nomination or why this week she posted a 5-minute infomercial for a cosmetic dental company based in texas, but we sure have a good idea. the governor should feel right at home in a republican party that lovesed the grift and learned it best from their party leader, donald trump. joining me now is senior
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national political reporter at the daily beast. thank you for being here. >> what did the smile texas video the governor posted say to you. >> well, a democrat, legislature, and south dakota has introduced a motion -- i called an investigation to see if there were some ethical violations here on her part, right, using her office for personal gain. using a promotive platform. what's really fascinating about this is not that long ago kristi noem actually acted as a dentist in a psa i think it was last year. she took as part of a workforce recruitment sort of campaign to bring more dentists to south dakota, she passed legislation to make it easier to be a dental hygienist in south dakota. so in addition to ethics -- the ethical questions, you know, you have to wonder if this is sort of a confession that the
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programs have not really borne fruit yet. >> you would think there would be some fallout not just because of the ethical breaches but purely the chamber of commerce level, she's advocating for the people of texas to get their smiles fixed. that is the thing i think is most staggering because there's no shame in the game quite literally in the age of trump. >> yeah, no shame, and again it is all because they're following the lead of donald trump since -- since the drop, right, since 2015. you know, it was a promotional campaign. i think now we're seeing that in a sort of systemic way with the rnc sort of welding itself to the trump campaign. just today, actually, they announced their -- not announced, they announced their joint fund-raising apparatus for 2024. it allows megadonors to cut an $8,000 check to this one committee, and then through a series of trance actions, that
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money, $800,000 from each of those donations and all told millions of dollars can be routed back to the rnc through this setup. and into its legal account, right, which can then be used to pay donald trump's legal bills. they just launched that today. and if you want to read how that works, you can check out my newsletter in the daily beast. >> well, i mean, the grift and the sort of collusion between big money interest and the republican party in an official capacity is appalling. i would recommend everybody read your piece today. thank you again for your time tonight. really appreciate it. >> thanks so much, alex. that is our show for this evening. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. prime minister netanyahu has lost his way. by allowing

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