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a reminder, you can always hear more from me on my podcast, a word with jason johnson. new episodes drop every friday. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next.
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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> and remember this, remember this, joe biden is a great threat to our democracy. he's a tremendous threat to our democracy. >> trump over the weekend doing his best george orwell trying to turn the tables on his own autocratic plans by claiming joe biden is a threat to democracy. meanwhile, the self-professed billionaire apparently doesn't have enough cash to secure a bond in his civil fraud case. also tonight, the family of a liberal icon was furious that an award given in her name is be handed to the likes of elon musk and rupert murdoch, and tonight there's an update on this story. plus, nikole hannah-jones at the table tonight on how the right has hijacked the term color
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blindedness, not to advance racial progress but rather to reverse it. but we begin tonight with a sad and terrifying reality that we face in america. namely that a mad man is running for president. and too many people are pretending that that is not the case. americans seem to be numb to the ramblings of a man who quotes adolf hitler approvingly, vows to terminate the constitution, and open migrant internment camps on u.s. soil and who is promising to throw the doors open to the d.c. federal prison and release thousands of violent criminals who ransacked our capitol, smeared fichies on the wall, and violently assaulted police officers on january 6th,
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2021. donald trump opened his campaign rally this weekend with republican hopeful bernie moreno who may or may not have a profile on an adult website. with this new creepily fascist version of the national anthem. >> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january 6th hostages. ♪ oh say can you see ♪ >> oh, but please don't do the black national anthem or kneel or the magas might go nuts. trump did more than just salute these criminals. that is not all he did. he also promised those pardons for these lawfully incarcerated insurrectionists. >> you see the spirit from the hostages, and that's what they are, hostages. they have been treated terribly. and very unfairly. and you know that. and everybody knows that.
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and we're going to be working on that sooner, the first day we get into office, we're going to save our country, going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots, and they were unbelievable patriots and are. >> than came this word salad. >> we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line. and you're not going to be able to sell those. if i get elected. now, if i don't get elected it's going to be a bloodbath. that's going to be the least of it. it's going to be a bloodbath for the country. they're not going to sell those cars. if this election isn't won, i'm not sure you'll ever have another election in the country. >> which led to a weekend of useless speculation whether he meant real blood, which is kind of beside the point at this point, since he is actually being prosecuted at the state level and at the federal level for fomenting an actual
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insurrection that caused a lot of blood. that actually caused the deaths of at least five people. there was at least one person who testified, a police officer, that she was literally slipping in pools of blood on january 6th. so the question of whether he meant actual blood seems a bit besides the point at this point. but what's much more important is what this maniac is actually vowing to do if elected again. >> on day one, my administration will terminate every open border policy of the biden administration. we will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. larger than that by far of dwight eisenhower. you know, eisenhower had a similar problem, but peanuts by comparison. >> what he isn't telling you is eisenhower's plan was actually labeled with the iconically racist term operation wetback. it actually led to a lot of
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human rights abuses and actual deaths. and that is what trump is promising us in 2025. a mass round-up targeting anyone who looks like an undocumented migrant, and trump's minions like stephen miller are gleefully bragging trump will unlease the military in chicagos like new york and chicago, or maybe he'll get creative and deputize his gang affiliates and the proud boys, the oath keepers, stand back and stand by. am i right? who better to spot suspicious looking brown people. if you are or look hispanic, heads up even if you are a citizen and even latin maga. enrique tarrio, if i were you, i would be doubly careful so you don't wind up where you started and also deported. trump is also threatening to round up and deport anyone who has participated in protests against israel's siege of gaza, which is something to note. and this mad man whose brain is
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clearly addled and little more than a ball of smooth clay at this stage of its deterioration makes these promises to feed chum to a base that has been drilled by right-wing media to now care more about stopping migrants even if they themselves live thousands of miles from the southern border than about the economy or inflation or literally anything else, according to gallup. we are literally becoming hungary, and continuing to entertain his super fans and keep their blood pressure sufficiently high, that they'll run to the polls on the single day of voting he has decrees in november, he has added to his previous naziisms about vermin and poisoning the blood of the country, the idea that black and brown migrants are not even people. >> i would do the same thing, if i had prisons that were teeming with ms-13 and all sorts of people that they have to take care of for the next 50 years, young people, they're in jail for years, if you call them
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people. i don't know if you call them people. in some cases they're not people in my opinion. these are bad, these are animals. >> and republicans in washington have literally nothing to say about all of this. other than to defend his violent rhetoric, like polly pocket speaker of the house mike johnson who not only said about legitimizing the authoritarian demagogue also known as his boss, he repeated the language. it's now down to mike pence of all people, who trump tried to get hanged on january 6th, 2021, to have the guts to say he won't support him. pence along with four dozen of trump's former cabinet members plus liz cheney and the never trump republicans are trying to tell you not to let this man anywhere near the oval office again. and they would know because they actually know him. and this madman, donald trump, seems to view threatening civil war as the backup plan to avoiding prison if he loses to joe biden again. joining me is michael fanone, former d.c. metropolitan police officer and author of hold the line, the insurrection and one
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cop's battle for america's soul. and stuart stevens, political strategist and senior adviser to the lincoln project. michael fanone, thank you for being here. let's talk about this, because there were a few things about this that literally infuriated me as i listened to donald trump in ohio over the weekend. but one of the most galling was his promise to release into american civil society hundreds, and at this point, more than 1,000 incarcerated january 6th defendants. let me play what you said about those people and you confronted one of them who is now incarcerated for trying to assault you. this is how you testified before congress. >> on that day, i participated in the defense of the united states capitol from an armed mob, an armed mob of thousands determined to get inside. because i was among the vastly outnumbered group of law enforcement officers protecting the capitol and the people
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inside it, i was grabbed, beaten, tased, all while being called a traitor to my country. i was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm, as i hurt chants of, kill him with his own gun. i could still hear those words in my head today. >> one of the men who did that to you is named daniel rodriguez. he's serving 12 years. 12 years and seven months behind bars. trump says he's going to let him out. what do you make of his plan to do that? >> it's outrageous. but again, i think we have all said the word outrageous, disgusting, disgraceful so many times when it comes to donald trump and the things that he says and does. i just think it's important that we reiterate to americans potential trump supporters who these people are, who the individuals incarcerated for their crimes on january 6th are. these are individuals who
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violently attacked law enforcement officers at the capitol. if that's something you support, is the release of those individuals, i think you have got more issues than just your supporting donald trump. >> i mean, you served as a law enforcement officer. you were doing your job. it actually wasn't your job. you were a metropolitan police officer, not a capitol officer. when you hear donald trump, he's now changed the national anthem. he doesn't play the regular national anthem or get something to sing the national anthem. he plays those people who are locked up for assaulting you and other officers. he plays that as the national anthem and then does this announcement about the wrongfully incarcerated hostages. he uses the term hostages. just as a former law enforcement officer, how do you feel when you hear that? >> i mean, it pisses me off. again, i think we have to look beyond donald trump and his rhetoric. he says these things because it
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resonates with his base. and who is his base? you know, i think these are americans who do not appreciate or understand democracy. they don't care about our constitutional republic. these are people who believe wholeheartedly that the ends justify the means. they want to win. they don't care about the diverse opinions of other americans, their fellow countrymen. their only concern is winning and forcing their view or their idea of what america is on the rest of us. >> yeah. stuart stevens, the other piece of this is that it is incredibly ironic that people who are claiming that millions of undocumented migrants are coming over the border, specifically to commit crimes and murder people, when those people literally are desperate for work and a lot of them are paying smugglers so
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they have to work, so they have to look for jobs and doing all the construction work and all the agricultural work. they're now cheering the idea that actual criminals who are on tape and who were dumb enough to live stream their crimes, who were caught in some cases because their own family members turned them in, who beat and savaged police officers and were proud of it at the time, while waving the trump flag with the american flag. i guess they don't know which one is the actual national flag, those people would then be released to the the general population. i recall that's what happened in haiti. the gangs in haiti, the first thing they did was open the jails and release 3500 of the hardest core members of their gangs. the most violent members of their gangs, and put them in the street to terrorize people. donald trump is saying he's going to do that. and this is supported, i guess, by the republican party leadership. >> yeah, first, i have never had a chance to thank michael.
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i would just like to do it personally. that was extraordinarily courageous stand that you and your other officers took. and if you haven't read his book, it really is a hell of a book. and everybody should go out and read it. >> it is. >> you know, i joined a party that said it believed in law and order. that's just a farce now. you know, michael is right. it's really not about donald trump. it's about the whole republican party and the people who are supporting trump. and you can't say that these people don't have information. they don't have -- they have to listen to fox or they have to listen to some lunatic on oan or go down some rabbit hole on the internet. they have the same ability to discern, to make decisions. there's a lot more information out there now than any time before in the history of the country. and yet, it's really about values. and this is why i call this book i wrote "it was all a lie"
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because i don't know any other conclusion to come to that you say all these things we said in the republican party, character counts, law and order, support the blue, all of these things. they were just marketing slogans. and when push comes to shove, most republican leaders have just either supported it or quietly stepped aside, which is the same thing. >> what do you think they're getting? what does mitch mcconnell get out of endorsing this? what do any of those people get? mike pence, he was the most sycophantic trump supporter there was, even he says it's too much. what do they think they're getting out of this? >> it's extraordinarily important question. you know, one thing you can say about most politicians is they have really big egos which doesn't bother me. so do musicians, actors. you think they would stop and think, how are they going to remember me in history? you can't say mitch mcconnell is doing it to win his next primary, yet he won't even say donald trump's name aloud. he could have brought an end to
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this, if he had supported convicting the president of impeachment, he would have been convicted. and he went out and gave that speech. i think it's sort of a complete collapse of a party that has convinced itself that there is some other evil that is worth sacrificing their own values for. and they get together and they all -- you know, mobs like comfort. and they tell themselves this is what we have to do. and you know, it takes -- i have to give pence credit, i have never been a mike pence fan, but you know, he's done the right thing here. and just not many other republican leaders have. >> yeah. if mike pence is braver than you, you're in trouble. just as a former law enforcement professional, walk me through what happens when people who have been convicted of violence crimes, not just regular crimes, not just trespassing, the people in prison, they're the most violent of the insurrectionists.
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what does it look like when they're free as a bird and pardoned? >> first of all, it sends a message to anyone who has committed acts of violence on behalf of the former president that you will be supported and ultimately pardoned or released from prison. so it's carte blanche, if you want to go out and commit acts of violence as long as you're doing it for donald trump, you have got no, at least no criminal culpability, no fears of prosecution. i mean, as a former law enforcement officer, someone who was there on january 6th, the message that it would send to me and to the police officers like myself that responded that day, our country has betrayed us. and that your sacrifices are not valued. and you know, it's not the first
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time that i have encountered those feelings as a cop. but having it sanctioned by the president of the united states, to me, is a bridge too far. not something that i can live with. >> would you feel safe knowing that members of the proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters and boogaloo boys have been accused of directly shooting police officers, would you feel safe with those guys looking for migrants in a city you lived in? >> absolutely not. these are vigilantes. i think it's important, too, we go back and look at the makeup of many of these individuals. these guys like the guys that assaulted me, daniel rodriguez, kyle young, albuquerque, they had criminal histories before they went to the capitol that day. they weren't law-abiding citizens. many individuals had prior convictions for domestic violence abuse, assault, you
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know, drug trafficking, narcotics crimes, possession. all of these different crimes. these were not upstanding law-abiding citizens to begin with. so the idea that you would have them playing a role as law enforcement officers in this country is outrageous. >> and that is one of the two major candidates for president is promising to do. michael fanone, i thank you as well. i'll thank you again. and my friend stuart stevens, thank you both for being here. >> up next on "the reidout," fake billionaire donald trump has not been able to secure a bond to pay the $464 million judgment in his civil fraud case. more on that next. jen x. jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in portugal with some help from j.p. morgan wealth plan. let's go whiskers. jen y is working with a banker to budget for her birthday.
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surprise, surprise, he's not as rich as he claimed to be. trumps lawyers informed the court he's not been able to secure a bond for the $464 million judgment against him and his codefendants in the new york civil fraud trial. his lawyers now say getting a bond in the full amount is a, quote, practical impossibility after reaching out to some 30 companies. they say that that's because most companies will not accept his properties as collateral and instead are looking for cash to cover the bond. the clock is ticking for trump with only one week left to post the bond or new york attorney general letitia james can start seizing his assets. which she said she's ready to do. this is the inherent problem with a man running for president who is increasingly desperate for money, because who knows what he might do to find it, from potentially looting the rnc thanks to his newly installed loyalists to getting help from some of his foreign dictator friends to launching fresh rounds of disinformation to bamboozle his way back into the white house. joining me is barbara mcquade,
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professor at the university of michigan law school and author of "the new york times" best-selling new book "attack from within, how disinformation is sabotaging america." first off, congratulations on the new book. very exciting, and very important. disinformation, and i wanted to go back to that first lie. because donald trump used the ruse of him being super wealthy to attract a lot of supporters and the fact he was famous also helped. that is now falling apart in the wake of him being called to the carpet to produce the cash. what do you make of the possibility that he might end up having to cough up some property? >> he's always campaigned on this idea, i am not beholden to anybody. i don't need donors. i don't need money from anybody because i'm independently wealthy. i'm rich, he says it all the time. turns out he's not. it turned out the only reason he was able to amass this fortune is because it was built on a foundation of lies. that's what was exposed in this
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case. now he owes more than $450 million. the reason a bond is required when somebody wants to appeal is because that money is now due and owing to the taxpayers of the state of new york. so if he wants to delay and appeal, that's fine, but he has to put the money up because it's designed to avoid someone filing a frivolous appeal just for the purpose of delaying the payout. now, he says 30 lenders of bonds have said we can't provide you with a bond. you're not a good credit risk. that's the very reason that the state wants this bond. he's trying to offer a discount of putting up $100 million. and i think the court wisely says no for the same reason the surety bond companies say you're not a good risk, the court doesn't think he's a good risk either. i think this is a last-ditch effort to try to get some grace and some stay, but i think ultimately he's going to have to sell some properties. imagine if he said i know i owe you some money but it's tied up in my house and car.
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you have to sell the stuff. i think if he doesn't, letitia james can begin on march 25th to seize assets. so if he wants to have his choice of what to sell, he needs to act before then. >> but now, having purveyed being on the apprentice and people perceiving him as the people's billionaire, now he's been president. which has afforded him a lot of latitude in terms of avoiding all of these court cases, now down to 88 criminal counts. but there's also this other thing that's happened is he's created a cult of personality. so now people don't even believe that joe biden is president. the numbers are really actually frightening. 36% in a "washington post" poll don't believe that joe biden is even the president of the united states. and we're seeing this kind of disinformation really ratcheted up. it was ratcheted up in 2016. that's how he became president the first time. russia got involved. we're now seeing ai used. what is the risk of disinformation in the upcoming
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election? >> oh, i think it's enormous, joy. you know, we have seen these tactics of authoritarians for decades with repetition and conspiracy theories and big lies and other things. but donald trump has something at his disposal that hitler and mussolini didn't have, that's social media. truth social, artificial intelligence, and so i think we're going to be bombarded with all kinds of false claims. the normalizing of violence by talking about bloodbaths, revisionist history by talking about january 6th attackers as hostages. and i worry about even other things. you know, one of the strategies of the corrupt is not to exonerate themselves from their corruption but to portray everyone else in the system as corrupt. and i fear that's what we're going to see, all kinds of smear campaigns against joe biden so they can say, look, everybody is corrupt. you might as well pick the one that shares your world view. if everyone is corrupt,
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corruption doesn't matter. >> that's what he got impeached for the first time, trying to create a ruse that biden was doing something corrupt with ukraine because he was doing funny stuff with russia. do you consider it part of the disinformation campaign for trump to flip these ideas, to say that it's biden who is the threat to democracy, to take the language of hostages, which we think about the israeli hostages and other hostages being held by hamas and saying no, that's the people in prison. do you consider that to be part of a disinformation campaign? >> absolutely, which is why i use the phrase disinformation and not lies. it isn't just false claims. it's manipulation, using information to mislead the public. sometimes it even is based on truth, but one of the things i think donald trump is doing, you'll hear this from time to time. anything he's accused of, he accuses his opponent of. what he's trying to do is to neutralize that issue. when he was caught with documents in his home, he said, obama took documents. it turns out, obama had the
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permission of the national archives to store them at his presidential library. but you'll hear that all the time. and the effort i think is to take the sting out of the accusation so people think that's not a big deal. everybody does it. >> i wish we had more time. i wanted to ask you about manafort, but we'll have to bring you back. i'll congratulate you again on your best-selling book. thank you for being here, barbara mcquade. and up next, what do elon musk and rupert murdoch have in common? you'll never guess which award they were just rewarded. we'll be right back. (♪♪) your ancestry is so much more than names and dates.
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every year since 2020, the dwight d. operman foundation has rewarded women with the ruth bader ginsburg award. she helped stab the award herself. to recognize an extraordinary woman who has exercised a positive and notable influence on society and serviced as an exemplary role model in principles and and practice. this year's slate is raising a lot of eyebrows as some of them could not be further from those values. the five people chosen to receive this pres tiges award include, i kid you not, elon musk, rupert murdoch, michael milken, sylvester stallone, and
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the seoul woman, martha stewart. perhaps this should come as no surprise that the foundation's chair is a major republican donor. as mother jones points out, since 2016, she has given thousands of dollars to donald trump and other republican campaigns and super pacs. nonetheless, these choices have sparked outrage among justice ginsburg's former colleagues and family members calling it an affront to the memory of our mother and grandmother, saying the foundation has strayed far from the award and what the justice stood for. that backlash caused the award organizers to announce hours ago they're canceling the gala set for next nungt honor the recipients. joining me is david corn, my friend, david, wth? >> they made this announcement last wednesday. i saw it on twitter.
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i tweeted, it seemed absurd. absurd. >> first, four men and only one woman. that sounds like some anti-dei. >> it used to be a woman's award, and they're going to open it to men. maybe one man in at a time. they flooded the zone. but then -- >> the men are oppressed. >> then the fact they cited elon musk and rupert murdoch was just unfathomable. >> and michael milken, didn't he get convicted -- >> he was a junk bond trader convicted of a wall street insider trading. went to jail for a couple years, came out and has been a philanthropist ever since. he's been able to hang on to his money so, you know -- >> we like martha stewart. she loves snoop dogg. >> these two in particular, and my colleague, as we were trying to figure this out, went to the fec filings and found out that
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the chairwoman of the foundation had given all this money to trump and to house republicans. to the tune of $200,000 in 2020, the house republicans. that sort of started making it seem like this is now making a little sense. i reached out to the family and they put out a statement, as you saw. and the foundation went dark. for several days. and the response on social media was exactly what you would expect. but i want to read something because they went to all the honorees, and they asked them for a statement for the press release, announcing the award. and rupert murdoch says this award that he's receiving represents a commitment to civil discourse. >> come on. >> so this foundation is allowing rupert murdoch a platform to embrace justice ginsburg and say that like her, i am committed to civil
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discourse. >> the guy who created fox. >> i can come up with 788 million reasons why that statement is phony baloney, and you know, elon musk didn't give as flowery a statement, but this is all about legitimizing these people. he was criticized roundly recently for amplifying anti-semitic and racist posts on x or twitter. so here they are out there, saying these are the people we want to praise, who embody ginsburg's own values. >> you wrote a book about extremism. isn't what we're seeing in general, people like this on the right, trying to shuffle the deck to make racists, anti-semites, people who have negative social impulses seem like the good guys and the victims? >> well, i'm not sure about the victims. certainly trying to -- >> make them the heroes. >> make them the heroes. and the press release is all about, well, in their fields, in their fields they are people of
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accomplishment. well, excuse me. the whole justice ginsburg story is not about going to a corporate law firm and making a lot of money and being a titan in the field of corporate law. it's about pursuing -- >> or buying a car company and making people think you invented it. >> it's about pursuing a set of values and being committed to that for decades, often fighting uphill. >> quickly, paul manafort is back in the world, your thoughts? >> he's not back on the campaign yet, but this is a big trial balloon. obviously, trump and manafort putting out he's going to be brought back in. this guy, according to a 2020 senate intelligence committee report that was bipartisan, was a grave counterintelligence threat because when he worked for the trump campaign in 2016, he was working in league and in connection with a russian intelligence officer. i mean, this was -- no one wants to talk about collusion, but this was an element of
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collusion. >> david corn, thank you. coming up, people on the right love to say they don't see color and they have used that stance to target diversity and affirmative action. the great hannah nicole jones has a piece on how color blindness was hijacked from the civil rights movement. she joins me next. ins me next.
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justice. fast forward a few decades and you have another ron, this time, desantis, invoking mlk during his crusade to ban any teachings about race. it doesn't make sense until you remember this is the modern day republican party which uses color blindness to end dei to affirmative action to banning books. my next guest says the tactic is a trap. nikole hannah-jones writes that conservative groups have, quote, co-opted the rhetoric of color blindness and the legal legacy of black activism, newt to advance racial progress, but to stall it or reverse it. joining me is nikole hannah-jones, creator of the 1619 project and a domestic correspondent at "the new york times" magazine. she's also the night chair in race and journalism at the great howard university. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> so i thought we reached the nadir of it when clarence thomas declared the freedsman bureau
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was not for black people, it was for everyone, which is not true. you write this idea of color blindness has now spanned the spectrum from taking away small business grants to affirmative action to everything. tell us your thesis. >> my thesis is we now realize conservatives embarked on this decades-long campaign to overturn roe. they had a long strategy, but we missed that they were also implementic a parallel strategy, to take the rhetoric of the civil rights movement, this idea of color blindness and use it to actually take back and force us back, back to a pre-civil rights era. so they have also had this racial strategy to really delegitimize any efforts to try to bring about racial equality, particularly for black americans. >> you write about the case where a white man who applied to all of these medical schools and didn't get in, he sued. they benefitted from a near 100% quota system, that reserved
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nearly all of the seats at the best public and private schools, all the homes in the best neighborhoods, all of the top well paying jobs in companies for white americans. so if non-color blindness and the affirmative inclusion of only white people is legal, how it can be color blindness is only illegal when it's applied to black people. >> for the first 350 years of what would become the united states, we had explicit racist law against black americans and power was fine with that. as soon as we get the 1960s where suddenly race was being used not to benefit black americans but to try to just catch them up, to help them gain equality, all of a sudden you can't see race at all. that's how it works, this idea that now at the moment where race can be used to try to make up for the strict white quota system that white americans benefitted from, we can't see color. as you know, the favorite line from that one speech of dr. martin luther king is one day we'll be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin.
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but they don't want to quote the dr. king after that who said a country that for 250 years did something special against the negro must now do something special for the negro. it bekims real a hard to argue against because color blindness actually did come from the rhetoric of progressives, of black activists, but it was aspirational. what it was saying was one day, once we repair all of the damage from a racial caste system, that we can become color blind. but in order to do that, we have to pay attention to race to eliminate all the ways race has been used to hold people back. >> i liken it to if i put a gun to your head and say build me a house, i get the equity from my house, and then
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i think this is what shocking to everyone, not only are they saying white institutions can't do things to improve diversity or anything special for black people but now they are coming for black institutions. what that creates is in america where black people would be partly in the underclass where we cannot get help from them in order to rise, we aren't allowed to help ourselves, so, that's not pleasant versus ferguson which was the ruling that ushered in, that's dred scott, that's saying that black americans will be permanent second-class citizens. i think we have failed to recognize that. >> is that when they will be satisfied is when black folks are returned to second-class citizenship, now it's fair. you can't get grants, you can't have anything to try and remedy health inequities, everything
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must go to only white men and white people otherwise it's not colorblind? >> the perversity of it is you have someone like john roberts on the supreme court who will say segregation, actual segregation of black children is constitutional as long as we don't have a law requiring it but if you try to implement a policy that will integrate the school, that's unconstitutional. that's what colorblindness has become, of course we cannot go back to the dred scott era but we try and move as closely back to that area as we can and really, to maintain as our country is becoming less and less white, the political, economic and social power of a minority group of people which is not white people but white people who have those conservative viewpoints. >> under this theory, can there be an naacp? historically black sororities and fraternities, can they even exist at all or are they saying black folks can't have anything. >> i think it's yet to be seen. we know that was fund which was
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an organization founded by black women to help black women get venture capital, the fact that less than 1% of venture capital goes to black women, that's not a problem, a small number of like women trying to help black women get venture capital, that's a problem. less than 6% of doctors are black, most of those black people who become doctors come out of hbcus, so the fact that we can't get into most medical schools, that's not a problem but if a medical school was -- that's a problem. i don't think we know what the endgame is but we are in an unprecedented moment. >> i'm waiting for them to declare the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to become unconstitutional themselves. despite putin's crackdown, thousands bravely lined up to protest at polling stations across the country and that is next.
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only a month after opposition leader alexei navalny died in prison, putin has pulled it off again, extending his rule for another six years. in a highly orchestrated election without any real opposition, putin received more than 87% of the vote according to russia's election commission. more than 10 points higher than the last time. in a press conference he said the result was an indication of his country's trust in him and nothing to do with the voters in ukraine who were forced to vote at gunpoint, under the watchful eye of heavily armed mask soldiers. i wonder who they were forced to vote for? despite the sham election the world witnessed stunning moments of protest with ordinary citizens risking beatings and arrests, to line up at a point of time and show
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force against putin's autocratic rule. another leader in another part of the world is bending towards autocracy, too. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu was the target of a stinging rebuke by senator chuck schumer, the highest ranking jewish official in united states history. the leader hit back on cnn. >> i think what he said is totally inappropriate. it's an appropriate to go to a sister democracy and try to replace the elected leadership there. that something the israeli public does on its own. >> he did not promise new elections, benjamin netanyahu spoke of biden today. it was their first interaction in more than a month. benjamin netanyahu who leads israel's most right-wing and conservative government in the country's history has big plans to curb the judiciary there. the plans include limiting the supreme court's ability to rebuke elementary decisions and changing the way judges are appointed. this is our democratic ally in the region? benjamin netanyahu and putin have something in common, and
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ongoing war or stance that's deeply unpopular along with criticism that they are prolonging their wars in order to stay in power. benjamin netanyahu like putin, has mastered the art of staying in power, pushing the country further and further to the right, even as fears of famine grow and as he is accused of using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, in the occupied gaza strip which by the way is a war crime, as war rages and people starving children die, and is the fate of rafah remains unclear, benjamin netanyahu battles for his reputation, legacy and power, it's an uncertain time for his rain and as we learned from putin, that is where the world must were you the most. and that is tonight's readout. inside with jen psaki starts right now.

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