good to be with you, i'm katy tur. with four days left, where is donald trump going for his $464 million bond. it doesn't seem like he has the cash on hand. trump's save america pac spent more money on legal fees last month than it brought in. trump and the rnc are being outraised by the biden campaign and dnc. no megadonors have come to his rescue, despite multiple fundraisers. does he file for bankruptcy? his businesses have done it before six times in the 1990s and 2000s. does he mix and match bond

companies? is that possible? does he get a stay from an appeals court? or does he throw up his hands and let ag letitia james start seizing assets. would that be politically beneficial? joining us now, senior correspondent garrett haake, and political analyst, phil rucker. garrett, where is the campaign's head right now? >> well, look, they understand, katy, that they have a money problem across the board here in terms of their political dollars and in terms of the candidates' financial picture here. you know, on the political side, the dnc has basically doubled the amount of cash on hand as does the rnc right now and the biden campaign has roughly twice the amount of cash on hand as does the trump campaign. that's familiar territory for donald trump. he was outspent in 2016, and won that race. it's not necessarily a panic situation, but they understand that it needs to be addressed. and that's part of the reason you're seeing things like, you

know, major properly sit down, big dollar fundraisers, like the one they're putting together in april. and this effort to use the legal troubles the candidate is in to light a fire for small donations. about this time yesterday, i got a text to trump donors, the small donors who give when they see this sort of thing, tell lee -- letitia james to keep her hands off trump tower, donate now. just, the bottom line, so much money they need on so many different fronts. it's basically what the campaign is focused on right now. >> is this all consuming or is there talk, garrett, about maybe letting some of these properties go and trying to use that to their political benefit? >> the reality is they may not have a choice, katy. you know, the off ramp here that's been offered by the ag is to essentially let the court take control of some of these properties, have them be held in escrow functionally as collateral while this case moves

forward. that might be enough for donald trump to kind of have it both ways here and take the political benefit of saying, look, they're coming after my properties without actually losing them, but, yeah, look, i think you're on to something here. anything that's negative for trump on the legal front, at least in this election thus far, he has been able to turn to positive on the political front. we're starting to talk about a different subset of voters, more general election voters and core republicans that may have flirted with other candidates, and driven back to trump on the idea that he was being targeted. it doesn't play as well for the independents, kind of uninspired voters who are still out there trying to figure out exactly what they're going to do come this fall. >> there is talk, phil, about whether donald trump will file for bankruptcy. he's done it before with his businesses, in the 1990s, the taj mahal, the casino there, and

the plaza hotel here in new york city, in the 2000s, more hotels. that business side of things also an enterprise entertainment business. he has done it, and it didn't hurt him politically in 2016 even though hillary clinton did try to make a thing of it to claim that he wasn't a good businessman. the republicans did as well during the primary. your colleague, josh saying he would rather have letitia james show up with the sheriff and make a huge stink about it than say he's bankrupt. he thinks about what's going to play politically well for him. bankruptcy doesn't play well for him but having her try to take his properties might. explain this. >> yeah, it's exactly right. it's a great story, and it lays out that the reasons why financial experts say filing for bankruptcy could provide an off ramp for trump in resolving these cash crimes here, and yet my colleagues are reporting that

the thinking inside the trump campaign is not to do this because it could be very damaging for him politically. so much of his political brand is in being seen as a successful businessman, as being seen as billionaire many times over, even though there's questions about that certainly. but being seen overall as someone who's successful with money who has made a lot of it and who, if he could return to the white house, would give you and your family a better chance of making the kind of money he's made, and so getting out there and declaring bankruptcy could be politically very dangerous for him. it would puncture the image that he has spent so many years trying to create and making that declaration in the middle of the presidential campaign as the general election is getting started is even riskier. >> you know, let me push back on that. because when he was hit with those allegations that he was a bad businessman because of the bankruptcies in 2016, he turned it around and you remember this, phil, he would say, i'm a good businessman because i know how to use the system to any advantage. i used chapter 11 to my

advantage. there was also that speech by mitt romney that went on and on about all of the business failures of his. trump steaks, trump water, et cetera, et cetera, and that was smack dab in the middle of the campaign, and it did nothing to harm donald trump. is there something more to the desire not to declare bankruptcy right now? because i'm not convinced that it's as politically damaging as the team might be telling reporters they believe it is. >> yeah, well you're certainly right about how he used that to his advantage and made the argument about working the system before. what feels a little different this time is that declaring bankruptcy if he were to do it tomorrow would be an admission that he does not have the half a billion dollars in assets that he has no access to that kind of money to be able to pay, to be able to post bond here, and so that would be acknowledging that at least not worth $500 million, let alone worth, you know, the

$10 billion he claims he's worth, and so, you know, certainly he could argue that this is him taking advantage of the system and getting out of it without having to put up a dollar, but it would technically be an admission that he just doesn't have that money. >> it's interesting. there's four days left. we'll see what happens. phil rucker, garrett haake, thank you very much. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. time is diminishing. what do you expect is going to happen between now and monday? >> you know, we have no way of knowing. trump, if you listen carefully, isn't really saying there's no way he can come up with the money. what he's saying is if he has to spend all of that money and use some of his assets, he's not going to be able to operate his businesses as he usually is. so at the end of the day, i wouldn't be surprised if trump finds a way to post this bond on monday. katy, this isn't really a hard

legal problem. it's a hard legal problem when people like alex jones and rudy giuliani owe plaintiffs millions and millions of dollars, and they just don't have the money. trump has the money. he may not have the money in terms of liquid assets now to put up on bond, but even then, the law has a remedy. the remedy is that the new york attorney general, letitia james, can seize his properties. and she's indicated she's perfectly willing to do that. >> trump's team says that coming up with this sort of bond is unheard of, that it's practically impossible. it doesn't happen. letitia james has said it does happen. it's actually pretty routine. is it? >> well, there are not a whole lot of billionaires who find themselves in the position that trump has but there certainly have been organizations, corporations that have been liable for billions of dollars. they want to appeal that judgment, and so they have to

post bond. guess what, they find a way to post it. so it's not like these insurance companies just can't afford to put up the money for donald trump. they're reluctant to for obvious reasons. trump is a credit risk. he sometimes does not pay people back when he owes them money, and that's just too much of a risk for some of these companies. >> i'm wondering where he might go to get that money. what options are out there. he was asked on fox news, or i'm sorry, alina habba was asked on fox news about whether they might turn to a foreign entity, a foreign person. let's listen. >> is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money through another country, saudi arabia or russia, as joy behar seems to think? >> well, there's rules and regulations that are public. i can't speak about strategy. that requires certain things. and we have to follow those rules.

>> what are the rules and regulations? >> there are not a whole lot. if trump can come up with this money, if he gets it from a foreign interest, there might be reporting requirements, but there's nothing to bar him from getting it from somebody, including jared and ivanka, they might be able to help him out. what letitia james has suggested if no one bond company is willing to loan you 500 plus million dollars, then maybe you could cobble together a few bond companies that each give you part of that amount of money. and letitia james has also suggested that trump be able to put up some of his properties as collateral with the court so the court would be responsible for making sure that nothing happened with these properties while this case is pending. >> all right. we will wait and see. obviously if he goes to a foreign entity and gets that sort of cash, we would be firmly back where we were in 2016

talking about whether he was beholden to a foreign entity. that's why everyone wanted to see his taxes in 2016, which, by the way, we still have not seen. paul butler, paul, thank you very much. still ahead, what was behind sdny's decision to take so long to hand over the documents that the d.a. asked for in manhattan, and why the d.a. now argues any more delay in the hush money trial would be wrong. and he once made fun of the size of his hands, now he might be his right-hand man. the new name on donald trump's vp list. plus, more states are trying to enforce immigration laws on their own. why seven states are passing copy cat legislation when the original texas law is still tied up in court. we're back in 60 seconds. ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪

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hush money case was supposed to start next week until the sdny dumped a trove of new documents on the d.a.'s office as lisa rubin reported on our air as it happened last week, the timing was surprising. now it seems we're getting answers about what happened. joining us now, nbc news investigative correspondent, tom winter. so, tom, what actually happened? >> it appears with the hindsight of many more filings in this case, this all stems from michael cohen, by the way, and what trump's defense is trying to do is find out as much about michael cohen as possible. everybody assumes that michael cohen is going to be called as a witness, and they obviously want to impeach his testimony which could be critical to the manhattan d.a.'s office. at issue were a number of items trump's defense requested as part of a subpoena they asked for in january of this year and as the southern district of new york, which led a parallel criminal investigation, the first one filed against cohen, is they started to produce

documents. and that subpoena, by the way, was different from what the manhattan d.a.'s office asked for and believed they needed to get from federal prosecutors as part of its discovery disclosures. this subpoena asked for additional things, and that's why we have over 170,000 pages that have been turned over and the d.a.'s office says 270. they're still reviewing but they believe about 270 are relevant. >> that's almost nothing, tom. >> right. >> we have already delayed the case 30 days. >> and 172 of the pages were not in the southern district's hands at the time the d.a. was making its request and have to do with the special counsel's investigation which is of course is not part of the hush money case. >> have we gotten reaction to donald trump's call to dismiss or delay this case? >> i think the d.a.'s office at this point has said enough is enough, and they have literally said that. look, we're ready to move forward with the trial, we're ready to get things going. the defense is pointing out, we have the right up until trial to

file the motions that we want to file to address the concerns that we have. but you're looking at the full filing here from the manhattan district attorney's office. the statement, it's not a statement released by them but included in their filings. >> is the trial going to start on april 15th or is that a hearing date? when is the trial starting? >> we don't know for sure yet. we have a hearing on monday to discuss the discovery issues, and at that point he may set a new trial date. it had been put on hold for 30 days from last week, however, the judge will likely have to look at this and say, okay, i don't think any more time is needed, we'll go on the 15th, or might say we have passover coming up. we'll push here. >> passover is the 15th. could he push it back and say, actually, this is not what i thought it was, we're going to start this march 30th. >> i don't think at this stage, to renege on that, and we have two huge logistical problems with this election. bringing in a jury on a high

profile case, as you know, and the presumptive nominee for the republican party, somebody who has had secret service protection, presumably that protection would be ramped up and i would never get into those details, we don't, but obviously everybody knows where this guy is going to be for the next five weeks once that trial begins. >> lower manhattan will get locked down. you say i know about high profile jury selections as if i've been on a high profile trial. like i've done something so wrong that i understand. >> have you? >> no. >> do we need to discuss. >> not yet at least, wait and see. i'm kidding. tom winter, thank you very much. and what iowa, kansas, and oklahoma are doing to be more like texas, and what that might mean for federal immigration enforcement. first up, though, these two men could be spending a whole lot more time together. what would compel donald trump to pick a running mate he once called sweaty, and what would compel marco rubio to stand beside a man he once called a con artist?

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after the supreme court briefly allowed texas's immigration law to take effect, iowa passed a similar bill, one of seven states with copy cat legislation in the works, all trying to enforce immigration law over the head of the federal government. can these laws take effect?

as we have reported the texas law is caught up in court. joining us now msnbc correspondent, david noriega. what can you tell us? >> reporter: what's at issue in the courts and the ruling we are waiting for that could happen in the next day or next couple of weeks is whether the law, sb 4 can go into effect while the constitutional challenges work their way through the courts. there's a ton of questions, a ton of uncertainty about what that would actually look like on the ground. you know, we know, for example, that different levels of law enforcement have different concerns about what their role would be in enforcing this. dps, state troopers, we can probably expect would be the ones making the arrests. once those people are arrested, it's unclear what would happen. there would be constitutional challenges in each one of those individual cases, which would slow down the process significantly. it's unclear if the state would

be able to deport any of these people back to mexico in the way that sb4 compels them to do. >> as texas waits for the law to get wound up through the courts again, what's the status of things on the ground in texas at eagle pass? >> reporter: so right now in eagle pass, what there is, and all over texas, really, the main thing, again, is uncertainty. the last week has been truly just whiplash. this law was in effect for a matter of a few hours earlier this week, then it was shut down again. the courts have been acting a little bit unpredictably on this one. everyone who is tasked with kind of navigating the immediate fallout of the law is sort of prepared for the possibility that it might go into effect at any moment. again, there are so many more questions than answers on what that would actually look like. there's sort of a general sense of apprehension. right now, at this point on the border, in terms of migrant activity, crossings, it's pretty

quiet. people are crossing elsewhere. inevitably the numbers are going to go up here at some point as well. how that coincides with the law being in place is yet another thing we don't know the answer to. >> talk to us about the ripple effects of the state and federal battle over immigration. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, arguably, the most consequential aspect of this law, if it were to go -- if it were to actually be upheld at the supreme court level, rather than just going into effect in texas while the court case goes on is that it would open the door to other states and not just border states to pass similar legislation. we're seeing something like that, although importantly, not exactly that happening already with this law that you mentioned that iowa passed. there are important differences. the iowa law applies to people who were already deported and came back in or were denied entry into the united states. that would not apply to the sorts of migrants who are crossing the border now, turning

themselves in to border patrol and entering the legal asylum system. where the texas law is squarely and specifically targeted at the people crossing the board now, the law in iowa would actually not have any kind of impact on that population. we are seeing other states inspired by what texas is doing, trying to pass laws that are similar in the sense that they empower state criminal justice systems to enforce what have historically been federally enforced immigration laws. if that were to happen, there would be the existing balance of power between the federal and state governments on immigration would be pretty much upended and it's very hard to tell how that would ultimately shake out. now, this is one of the reasons that the constitutional experts i have spoken to are skeptical that this law will stand up in court in the end, regardless of whether or not it's given a sort of temporary window of time in which it can go into effect. but in the end when all is said and done, it will become a permanent law. again, nothing is guaranteed. the supreme court is

unpredictable when it comes to existing precedent, so, yeah, that is one of the -- by far one of the most important things we're looking at is the ripple effects it could have in other states. while texas fights for tougher border security, a small town in middle america says it needs more migrants to fill jobs, but some residents are not on board. nbc news correspondent, julia ainsley is in fremont, nebraska, with that story. >> reporter: in major cities across america, officials say they have reached a breaking point, struggling to handle the record number of arriving migrants. here in smalltown fremont, nebraska, where there are 39 workers for every 100 job openings, some are encouraging more illegal migrants to come. >> we need these people. this is what feeds the nation and world. >> reporter: many openings are at the chicken plant opened in 2019. young locals often move away, leaving the slaughter house jobs to migrants, like vicente

fernandez. >> reporter: although it is hard, although it is heavy, they endure. the difference with an american citizen, every time he finds a job and he sees it is hard, he leaves it. hernandez and his wife are pastors to the growing guatemalan community. once this town of 27,000 was nearly all white. now 1 out of 6 are latino. since 2018, the school district added almost 800 non-english speaking students. meat packing is the biggest industry here in fremont, the state's chamber of commerce says nebraska needs to welcome migrants to fill jobs like these. some residents are resistant to that change. voters backed a town ordinance that says locals must tell the city they are here legally before they can rent housing. the city cannot always verify the information. people say the law remains on the books to send a message. councilman paul van buren

supports it. why was it brought up? >> citizens asked city council to do something, because it was obvious we became a haven for illegals. >> reporter: criticizing increased costs for migrant children at local schools. >> the sheer pressure of bringing in numbers of people has resulted in a considerable burden to the taxpayers. >> reporter: city councilman mark jenson who has lived in the area is against the ordinance. >> it's a bad look for the city. >> reporter: and says fremont needs to embrace change. >> a lot of people who live and grow up here don't stay. they move out. it's critical for us to have the people that we've got here. >> reporter: back at the church, vicente tell us he regularly gets about three hours of sleep a night but he and his wife maria say they found their new hometown. now i live the american dream, as they call it. i'm happy because i have everything, she tells us. julia ainsley, nbc news.

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this season on trump, a new cast member heats things up. marco rubio, once dubbed little

marco by then candidate trump is now on the short list for vice president. here's what he said earlier today when asked what he thought of the role. >> if offered this position, you would accept it. >> anybody offered the chance to serve their country as vice president should consider that to be an honor. that's why i'm in public service. if that changes i'll let you know. i never talked to anybody about it. >> joining us now from palm beach, florida, nbc news correspondent dasha burns. so this is not surprising, obviously, if you watch marco rubio in the senate during the trump years. it is surprising if you don't remember the trump years and only remember the 2016 campaign when the two men weren't exactly close. what's happening here? >> yeah, that's exactly right. and look, the long list of contenders right now could fill an entire season of the apprentice, but rubio has moved on up, according to six sources we spoke with.

he's telegenic, he's many more time in office that kamala harris. the former president feels bullish about his ability to win over more hispanic voters and sees rubio as a possible boon to that. the one hitch, katy, is that they are both florida men, which is a problem with the constitution. there's a rule that says that electors cannot vote for a president and a vice president from the same state, so if this were to move forward, he would likely need to resign his senate seat and move to a different state. it's unclear if he's willing to do that, and he's on the short list. right? there's no decision that has been made. this is a guy that on paper and on television looks pretty good, and that's a powerful combination for the former president. >> i think it's a good reminder to just go back in time, go back to 2016 and let's watch how the two were treating each other.

>> donald is not going to make america great. he's going to make america orange. you know what they say about men with small hands. you can't trust them. >> look at those hands. are they small hands? and he referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small, i guarantee you, there's no problem. i guarantee you. don't worry about it little, marco. >> let's hear it, big donald. >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> i have gotten to know marco over a period of time, he is not a leader. >> seared into my brain, those moments. dasha burns, thank you very much. and will the senate act on tiktok? the house overwhelmingly voted to ban the app last week but there are no plans for a vote in the upper chamber. that changed after the intelligence community sat senators down for a classified briefing urging them to act quickly. >> i think there was a reason

why when this brief was given on the house side to the energy and commerce committee afterwards they voted 50-0 to move the legislation forward. >> my reaction to this briefing is that tiktok is a gun aimed at americans' heads. the chinese communists are weaponizing information that they are constantly surreptitiously collecting from 170 million americans. and potentially aiming that information using it through algorithms at the core of american democracy. >> joining us now, "punchbowl news" cofounder and msnbc political contributor, jake sherman. last time we talked about this, jake, you said that the senate was going to feel a lot of pressure on tiktok because of just how overwhelmingly the house voted to pass, i don't want to call it a ban. you can call it a ban, but really it's a push for the company to divest.

does the senate still feel that pressure? >> reporter: it's effectively banned, i'll say it, katy. yes, here's what i would say. number one, we reported this morning that commerce secretary gina raimondo called gina cantwell, who has jurisdiction over this bill, to talk about a variety of things. the chips bill, which has already passed, but the biden administration clearly wants to get something done here. i think the devil is going to be in the details a little bit. i think there's a chance that they take the house bill and amend it and make some changes to it. maybe the, you know, the period of time in which they have to sell the app, bytedance that is, there might be some changes. they might take bytedance and tiktok out of the legislation and make it broader, but i think at the end of the day, the guts of the bill are going to be the same. i talked to people both in the house briefing and senate briefing who say that, first of all, some of the information

should be declassified just so people understand what the intelligence community believes the chinese communist party is doing with tiktok, number one, but number two that it's convincing. it's very convincing that this is spy ware on the phones of hundreds of millions of people around the world. and america, obviously, is most important for capitol hill. >> brian chatts said that. he was convinced by the information the intelligence committee laid out. mark warner said he wants a lot of this declassified. who does he got to convince to do that? >> the biden administration. the biden administration has the keys to that. he can't do it. the biden administration had a record over the last year or so of declassifying information to convince the public of certain things. they did it with ukraine. i don't know that they're going to do that here, but, again, i said this to you last week, i think, but having mark warner out there who's a well respected

member of the senate, who's the chair of the intelligence committee saying that this needs to get done, and it needs to get done soon is powerful. now, obviously there's political ramifications. there's a lot of people who say we don't want to take away a popular app right before the election. i think that's something that's weighing on people's minds, but the tide is definitely moving against tiktok. >> jake sherman, always good to have you. thank you very much. and coming up, the u.s. went from objecting to a cease fire in gaza to drafting a resolution for the u.n. now calling for one. what changed? plus, the season is barely underway. it's a day underway. but an mlb scandal surrounding the league's biggest star is already in full swing. who was involved and what is it about? don't go anywhere. everywhere but the seat. the seat is leather. alan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer.

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save, and plan smarter. only from bank of america. the u.s. has a draft resolution at the u.n. calling for an immediate cease fire in gaza according to antony blinken who is in cairo. the cease fire would be contingent on the release of all the remaining hostages. it is a major diplomatic shift after vetoing the previous three resolutions calling for the same thing. >> we have been working very closely together with our arab partners on all of these post conflict pieces. there's not only more consensus on the priorities, cease fire, release of hostages,

humanitarian assistance, and a clear pathway and plan for the future. i think there's increasingly consensus on the steps needed to achieve that. these are difficult days. but that only reinforces our determination to get to better days. >> joining us now, senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace and former arab israeli negotiator, aaron david miller. i say they're the same thing. there is nuance. the u.s. has rejected three past cease fire resolutions because the language in it was not quite precise enough for them. what took the u.s. so long to draft their own resolution with the language they specifically wanted? >> i think it's the reality, and the biden administration, i think, has the right priority that a resolution and security council in new york is not going to do anything, i repeat, anything, to fundamentally alter the situation on the ground. the only thing worth paying

attention to right now is not the ground campaign in rafah, not the u.n. security council resolution, it's what's going on in doha where big burns is meeting up with assad director to continue their indirect negotiations with the qataris and the egyptians with hamas's senior leadership. how they're doing this, i have no idea, he's underground in khan younis or or rafah. everything else is a key to an empty room. you will not be able to surge humanitarian assistance. you won't get the hostages out. there will be no day after as the secretary referred to. that's the key. and whether or not we are now better positioned, the u.s. better positioned to basically cut that deal is unclear.

signals are pretty positive because both israel and hamas, i think, are under greater pressure. >> so there was talk a couple of weeks ago that the qataris would expel hamas leadership from qatar if they didn't accept this deal, if they walked away from this deal. is that still a threat that they're working under, do the qataris still have that leverage? >> that and the money, katy, is what the qataris can. it's no small matter for the external leadership because the external leadership like the military leadership in gaza is going to be on israel's radar screen. whether it's a month, a year, the israelis are determined to eliminate those senior leaders, so i think, yeah, the qataris have pressured the israelis, the hamas leadership, and you also have a situation in gaza where u.n. agencies, the ipc, not a u.n. agency is reporting the

prospects by mid may of massive death from catastrophic salvation, of catastrophic. >> starvation. >> the absence of food, so i think that that's another lever that's being pulled in perhaps the threat of a ground campaign in rafah is adding to the pressure. >> i wonder if ramadan is actually a break, if the israelis are not going in there because of the month of ramadan. but i do want to ask you about the israeli contingent that's going to come to washington to the white house to talk about other possibilities, other ways to get hamas. what should we watch for with that? >> i'm not sure we'll be able to tell based on those discussions. it's ron dermer who's the real foreign minister of israel, and the prime minister's national security adviser. this is supposed to be the presentation of israel's plans for the rafah campaign, and yet they're sending two individuals,

both of whom are not in the idf or with security agencies. the minister of defense is supposed to come to meet with lloyd austin sometime late next week. what you will hear, i think, after these meetings, is whether or not there's any coincidence of views between the administration and the israelis in rafah. in any event, i think we're weeks away, perhaps even longer from any israeli campaign in rafah. it takes more planning, and they've got to figure a way to deal with the humanitarian situation that they face of over a million palestinians who cannot be in harm's way if and when this occurs. >> if you were giving advice to the israelis, what would that advice be? >> subject to rafah? >> no, on what to do next, whether they should go into rafah, on how to eliminate hamas, how to regain standing around the world? >> i mean, you have an israeli

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. it is only one day into the season and baseball's biggest stars are in the middle of a giant scandal. the dodgers fired shohei ohtani's long time interpreter after the lawyers accused him of using $4.5 million of ohtani's money to gamble on sports. here's where it gets messier. ohtani's spokesperson had previously told espn that ohtani himself had given his interpreter the money to cover his gambling debts but then ohtani's lawyers quickly back tracked and said the money was actually stolen. joining us now, "usa today" baseball columnist, bob nightengale. will you untangle this for us? >> i would love to if possible. shohei ohtani is a very very smart man. these guys have been friends for over 11 years now. his interpreter is very popular with the angel clubhouse and the dodgers, so it is hard, you

know, farfetched to believe that ohtani knew nothing about that. granted, i mean, nobody has said he gambled on baseball. his interpreter, but it is illegal to bet with the state of california. it's not one of the 38 states that have approved gambling. so i think if he knew something about it, he might get his wrist slapped, but because it doesn't involve baseball, i don't think we would see a suspension, certainly not more than a week, i would think. >> give me a little bit of background on his interpreter, who is this guy and why is he so close to ohtani? >> well, he knew him from japan, when shohei was pitching over there. this guy was born and raised in japan. i'm sorry, born in japan, raised in southern california. and they became close friends. they were inseparable. when you saw ohtani, you saw,

you know, his interpreter ippei. they drove to the ballparks together, flew together, hung out together. nobody, you know, knew ohtani better than ippei. but this close relationship, that's why people are skeptical, okay, how did ohtani not know anything about it when these guys are best of friends and hung out all the time together. >> i know it's really sensitive, and this is probably why they have been pretty clear or tried to be pretty clear that they didn't gamble on baseball, but is there going to be an investigation done to make sure of that? i mean, baseball's got a history there, one that is kind of ugly. >> yeah, i mean, no one says this is a pete rose incident or anything like that, but obviously the federal government, when they start investigating ippei, they have to interview shohei ohtani too. i think major league baseball will follow the federal government's lead and say what did you find here, nothing else. he's guilty by just association

in a sense that these guys are best friends, he knew it was going on. should he have said something to mlb. now, if it turns out that he bet on major league baseball, it's a whole different can of worms here. then it's a whole lot of problems. if nothing else, certainly, you know, tarnishes and damages his pristine image. ohtani was beloved, you know, throughout the world. >> we've got a minute left. i want to ask you about yamamoto's debut, a lot of money spent on him, 325 million, not such a great debut. >> no, he had a great start, spring training, and saw the next two as well, struggled with the control. i think it was a case of nerves. i think this whole ohtani thing with the gambling investigation, i think it affected him because he's a pretty unflappable guy. we'll see what happens when he makes his second start of the

season against the st. louis cardinals next weekend. i think he'll be fine. there's too many times willing to offer him $300 million plus for them all to be wrong. >> let's hope for the dodgers sake and all the dodgers fans out there, myself included, that he shakes off those cobwebs and is okay. bob nightengale, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. and that is going to do it for me this hour. "deadline white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi everyone, it is 4:00 in new york. i'm alicia menendez in for nicolle wallace. you can almost hear it, the tick tick tick, as the disgraced, twice impeached ex-president slowly runs out of time to post this massive, nearly half a billion dollars bond in a civil fraud case. donald trump has until monday to make it happen or face the consequences,