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on the one hand he could say 15 weeks. but then he will say, we will come up with a compromise that everybody will be happy with and sometimes he will say he wants to leave it to the states and he is very slippery like that. it's important, i think, for democrats to nail him down as much as possible because people still have a hard time believing that donald trump cares about abortion. the point isn't what he cares about but the point is what he has done and will do. >> that is right. every state in the union, massachusetts, california, new york, they will do it if they have the power. a will do it and they are coming for you. thank you, michelle. >> that is all in on this thursday night and we start tonight. >> that's an important point that those who think the fall
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of roe v. wade doesn't affect us but what you call the consensus view of the gop developing into a 15 week abortion ban, that is what they are thinking is the middle ground and they have shifted the whole conversation over to the fact that the middle ground is now a national ban. >> which means if you are in massachusetts and you get that 20 week fetal optimality scan, and donald trump's government tells you that you can't get an abortion or wait until you are in sepsis to get it. >> it is a very important point for every american the matter where you live to remember right now and thank you for making that point and have a good evening, friend. thank you for joining us. what can you buy with $230,000? think about that for a second. the house? a brand-new ferreri? championship race horse? $230,000 is a huge amount of money. that is how much donald trump's save america pack has spent per day on the former presidents legal bills in february.
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$5.6 million. and that's more than it was able to raise over that same period and everybody knows the one thing he needs right now is money. and when he engineered the takeover of the rnc earlier this month his top advisor promised that not a penny of the money would go to pay the presidents legal fees and he said it's as part of the trump campaign as the trump campaign is part of the rnc. okay. important words because we learn new details tonight about the trump campaign's new deal with the rnc. and this unusual arrangement prioritizes trump's save america pack over the rnc. so while these funds don't go directly to pay his lawyers, and a donation to the combined
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entity go to trump's campaign and save america pac first and then the remainder goes to the rnc. and, he will need it. his legal woes are far from over and there is no telling what amount of legal fees he will continue to accrue over the next year with four criminal trials looming and there is the money he owes for trials that are already over the 464 million bond which is due on monday, four days from now not to mention the fact that half $1 billion is accruing $100,000 worth of interest every 24 hours. and it is a practical impossibility. failure to come up with the bond means the new york at attorney general letitia james can start the process of seizing the former presidents assets as early as next week. of course there is another option which could delay having to pay by months or years,
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declare bankruptcy. trump has reportedly not even considered bankruptcy is an option and why would he? he has already done it six times before and what's one more bankruptcy on the pile especially when the former president is strapped for cash and it seems that is money woes may have finally become a political liability. according to the washington post, he doesn't want to declare bankruptcy partially out of concern that it could damage his campaign to recapture the white house for president biden in november and he is worried about the optic of bankruptcy. because it gets to the heart of his identity. he built his brand on being rich and living a lavish lifestyle that the rest of us wish we could live and he started a television show where his theme song was money and he surrounded himself with products that signify extravagant luxury, casinos, high-rise apartment buildings and builds his campaign on the
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idea he was so rich she couldn't be bought and symbolically writing into the 2000 race on a golden elevator. >> our country needs a truly great leader. we need a truly great leader now. and i don't need anybody's money. i am using my own money and i am not using the lobbyists. >> really rich. that was then and this is now and he finally finds himself in panic mode as he tries to secure a half million dollar bond but with the general election starting have to worry what voters will think about is very real money problems and his opponent is in helping. when it comes to fundraising president biden has been
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consistently outpacing trump widening the gap between them last month and in february he raised over $20 million all told the combined cash on hand for the biden campaign and the dnc totaled over $97 million which is more than double the combined cash held by the trump campaign and the rnc. this suddenly looks like a vulnerable moment for donald trump and it does appear that team biden is prepared to take advantage of it. not only are they planning a major blitz with their cash but more importantly president biden has started to take some direct shots at trump's money troubles. and when it comes to his legal woes joe biden has refused to comment but his financial issues, apparently those are fair game. at a closed door fundraiser last night in dallas, biden joked, i know not everybody is
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feeling the enthusiasm. just the other day a defeated looking man came up to me and said, mr. president, i have crushing debt, and i'm completely wiped out. and i had to look at them and say, donald, i'm sorry. i can't help you.". biden has now trotted out this joke three times in the past 24 hours signaling that it could be the start of a new more aggressive strategy for the white house and for decades donald trump overinflated his wealth and got away with it. now, he is paying for it. suddenly what he has always touted as his greatest strengths now seems like a glaring week this and democrats seem ready to pounce. joining us now is tim o'brien the senior executive editor of bloomberg opinion and author of the art of being the donald and for that he was sued by donald trump by the way and he won. also with me the former white house secretary robert gibbs for president obama and now a
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political analyst here. good to see you both and thank you for being with us. tim o'brien, let's talk about the part of this that is interesting and guys like you spend a lot of time figuring out donald trump and what he is worth and is cast -- cash position is but the attorney general did that and roadmap to this and know what he is worth and this is the real problem which is the truth about the donald trump myth that came out in the trial and been solidified that he can't raise his own bond. >> some of those are being burst in very useful ways. i think one of the things that confounded people during trump's first term is this idea that he always existed on the reach of the law and he had nine legal lives and he had only gone through one of them. i think now you see at least on a financial basis, he is getting exposed for decades of what he has been doing, which is inflating, lying,
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exaggerating and however you want to describe it how much money he has and what he does with that. i think that is one of the things nine at him more than anything else in this current round is that the emperor has no financial clothing. he said in a deposition a year ago that he had $400 million in cash on hand and adding to that amount on a monthly basis and in significant ways. he either lied under oath or perjured himself on that position or he is a really bad businessman or blew through that somehow magically over the last year or doesn't want to touch it because he wants to lay these debts off on perhaps people donating to his campaign and for whatever reason that money he says isn't there now. so he is going to have to rely on the good graces of other people and he doesn't have a lot of options. there is talk he will seek bankruptcy protection and i think we would've gotten indications of that and it
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would have to be a complex filing and i think letitia james is waiting to attach his assets on monday. she has been very sharp i think about pacifically naming some of the properties that she would want. >> like 40 wall street. >> the reality is there are certain properties that he deplete prices. in the early 90s when he went through those six corporate bankruptcies, he came within an inch of personal bankruptcy but for a piece of his father's estate that his siblings gave him so he could stay solvent, otherwise, he would have gone under personally. at that time he got on his knees to his bankers and said take what you want but don't take my condo or take mar-a- lago. i think the attorney general's office is hip to the idea that there are certain toys more valuable to trump than others and i think that has to not him. there is a resolution on some sort around this on monday whether the appellate court steps in and says he gets extra
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time or maybe he gets to play some shenanigans around what he posts although i would be surprised by that and i don't see a bankruptcy filing coming. but he will have to have very detailed proclamations within the filing about his assets and the debts held against those assets and again a kind of public revelation about what he has that he never wanted to do because what it will show in the end is a guy who said when he watched his campaign in 2015 i am really rich and i am worth 10 billion 8 billion 6 billion and these are all the numbers and he is nowhere close to that and he doesn't want to pop his own balloon and that regard but he will be forced to. >> he has done so many things about democracy and what he would do about it if you are elected. you would think that would be enough and joe biden has really leaned into the idea that this is a choice between a presidency for democracy and one who undermines it in the
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united states and abroad and you would think that would be enough, but apparently it isn't. joe biden has decided that this is the soft underbelly that he can go after and tell me what your thoughts are about that. >> as he just said, the whole notion of donald trump's wealth and this myth of job creation and all of the things that have gone with who donald trump is for a long time is on the verge of being pierced. this is central to that narrative and quite frankly the way voters began to see this as somebody who is a nifty negotiator and somebody who understood as soon as and, quite frankly was wealthy because of his business acumen and that would be something that would be a bonus to have somebody in the white house that could do all that and obviously a lot of that was built on a myth to begin with and this is beginning to crumble in front of his eyes through the courts and campaign
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fundraising. i think the biden campaign senses it is an interesting moment to go after not just to voters think donald trump is but really to press the advantage with campaign-finance amount and it's really stunning to watch the presumptive nominee be out raised by the democratic nominee in this case 2-1 to have that become wider month after month after month and it's been a long time since we have been through a presidential campaign where there was a distinct disadvantage on one side with money and right now donald trump is very much approaching this campaign as if he will have that distinct disadvantage and low dollar donors are tired of being asked and the high dollar donors are worried more, quite frankly that the money they give is going to be part of the $80 million that has gone to pay his lawyers. >> let me ask you this. joe biden has been fairly
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judicious about not waiting into trump's other legal problems and he doesn't want to do it. >> who he is and who his businesses is different and much more fair game. >> is anything here surprising to you? like he had this 400 million on hand or does this surprise you or is this where you thought he was in the world? >> i am only surprised at how
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he is willing to take this particular judgment and given the financial stakes involved. and how central he is with his insecurities and this saying that he was a billionaire where he gets to a place where he would be exposed like this. >> is it suggest to you that he really can't raise that bond? >> it absolutely does. that is why i also think he would have gotten a bankruptcy proceeding going further if he tried to stall this and i think what is now emerging and i think monday it could be a power crash. he had to have lawyers telling him weeks ago that you should prepare for something like this and he ignored them as he always does and again he is allowing these existential cataclysms to be visited upon him because he is an undisciplined seven-year-old and is not an adult.
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and he plays with fire around his own finances in order to score performance acting and performance art results in the courts and in the media but it isn't good for his business and it is becoming increasingly bad for his political life. >> monday will be a day not to be out of the news and it will be a reckoning. thank you both very much. tim o'brien is the senior executive editor a bloomberg opinion and robert a former press secretary and we have more ahead including what is going on with the judge presiding over trump's classified documents case and why her latest moves have legal experts questioning motives again but first after blocking three un resolutions calling for a cease-fire in gaza the united states is putting its own cease-fire resolution up for a vote before the security council tomorrow morning and that is next.
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been approved due to the veto of a permanent member. >> the draft resolution has not been adopted owing to a negative vote of the permanent member of the council. >> since the war in gaza began there have been three attempts by the united nations security council to call for a cease- fire or condemn civilian casualties in gaza and each time the united states has used its veto power to block resolutions. but now that is changing. tomorrow morning, for the first time, the united states will introduce its own resolution calling for an immediate cease- fire in gaza and unlike previous resolutions the united states has conditioned its call for a cease-fire on the immediate release of all of the hostages being held by hamas in gaza, but it is still a remarkable change in the u.s. position. it comes as we learned the republican speaker of the
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house, mike johnson, plans to make an end run around the biden ministration and invite the israeli prime minister to address congress about the war. the biden administration is increasing its pressure on the prime minister's government at the same time the prime minister's government is aligning itself much more closely with biden's political opponents. with the republicans. joining us now is senator murphy and a member of the senate foreign relations committee and a democrat. thank you so much. 2015 was the last time it happened and it happened similarly. benjamin netanyahu cut a deal with republicans to address congress and what was largely seen as an affront to barack obama and exactly the same thing is happening now and the prime minister is going to congress at the behest of the republicans possibly in an end run against his deteriorating relationship with joe biden. your thoughts? >> i am not sure that i see it
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is an apples to apples comparison and the prime minister was coming at that moment to a very top priority policy for the obama administration the nuclear deal with iran. but this is a different moment where the eyes of the world are on israel. i think it is important for the israeli leader to come to the united states and explained to congress what the policy is and why this campaign in gaza, which has now killed tens of thousands of civilians is actually going to eradicate a terrorist threat to israel in the united states. i don't like when the prime minister talks a little republicans and i think that's bad for the relationships but given the eyes of the world are on israel the day, i actually think it may benefit all of us to have him come and make the case to both emma kratz and republicans and there will be many who object to the case he makes but probably best to err
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that out in the open. >> lay that out. as you said there is a reasonable expectation that many will object. nobody will have their minds changed probably. what happens? he comes and people air their grievances and there is still a pending attack on rafah and there's still an administration in disagreement with theirs and then what happens next? >> i am not sure his speech before congress will have a material effect on people's views, but i don't know we should be afraid of listening to the israeli leader even if we disagree with them. i have come to the conclusion that there needs to be an immediate pause to hostilities and i wouldn't conditioned upon the release of the hostages and i hope there is an agreement between hamas and israel with intermediaries that allows for the release of the hostages. that i think that the
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humanitarian situation is so dire with famine lurking that israel needs to stop military operations and focus on restoring order and combating famine and that is my position. the administration takes a different position that they will articulate tomorrow at the un. i don't think my position will be changed by the appearance of the prime minister. but i don't think we should block him from coming in explaining his position. we are a body that welcomes open dialogue and we should have that even with leaders that we don't have full agreement with. >> that is a good point. secretary blinken in the middle east is hopeful for the concept of a cease-fire any talk about it and calls for that are growing and it is a remarkable moment that in the morning the united states will call for that, conditioned or not. it is a major move for the united states in the history of the united states israeli relations. you hopeful that we are getting
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closer? i fully understand that pressure is growing on israel to do that, but are you hopeful that the pressure gets us anywhere? benjamin netanyahu's basic the campaigning -- basically campaigning in an election he isn't running in as if he is the only one who could stand up to america. >> of course i am hopeful. but every day that goes by without an agreement i think should make us all more worried and both sides will have to not allow that and i think many of us worry and you heard senator schumer articulate this a few days ago that the prime minister is making decisions not necessarily in accordance with what is best for israeli security or american security but what is best for his political future and the longer the war goes on the more likely it is that the war cabinet holds and he stays in power and
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when the war is over or when there is a long-term pause, there certainly will be a discussion inside israel as to whether to move forward with elections. i think that is a very real worry at this moment thinking about the motivations that the government has one it's making decisions on the ground in gaza. >> i want to ask you about an unrelated topic which is what we call a hard turn in the business. it is kind of interesting about our phones. the justice department is suing apple for allegedly using monopoly power in the phone- based app market and you tweeted today, people peel -- feel powerless and alone when companies this big have so much power over their lives. a lot of people don't know how to think about this. we all live in this apple walled garden and it's part of our lives and are we mad at them or what should they do differently and what is your take on this? >> we have that relationship with apple and google, amazon, and we get tremendous benefits from the services. the problem is their
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noncompetitive monopolistic practices happen behind a wall we don't see. so we end up paying far more for these services and for instance the apps on our iphone. we get a much lower quality experience. and, on the iphone the inability to play cloud-based games because that would actually harm apples market, which forces you to get more computing power on your phone because you can't get access to the cloud. it is very right for the government to step up and say, whether or not we see these monopolistic practices, they are illegal. i do think americans feel that they have lost an amount of power because apple and amazon, google, have so much market share that we have no ability to really compete their services against anyone else. we would all be paying a lot less to force them into a
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competitive market. this is a really important action that the department of justice is taking against apple and it's next to actions they took against google and amazon. i am glad the biden administration is making it a priority to break up these big monopolies. and donald trump talks a big game about coming after big tech and so do many republicans, but they don't do it. they end up passing policies that further enrich the bottom lines of these companies and joe biden is coming after these big companies to break up their power. >> it's when the government say to people you have too much power as a consumer and you may be a good company bringing value to the consumer and these things definitely as he said bring value to our lives to add access to them but it does take away some choice and it does take away some opportunity for us to make choices. good to see you and thank you as always, senator murphy, a democrat and a member of the senate foreign relations committee. when we come back, donald trump says the quiet part out
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the judge in the classified documents case held a hearing to discuss a new trial date and the special counsel is hoping it will go to trial this summer and donald trump is hoping it will go to trial never. nearly 3 weeks later the judge has yet to make a decision on the matter. she has found time to hold a separate hearing on a few of donald trump's motions to dismiss the case. she dismissed one of them the same day kind of and she shot down trump's request to dismiss the charges against him based on unconstitutional vagueness, but she left the door open to bring that idea back at trial. and then in order the judge issued this week that she appears to be engaging with trump's other motion to dismiss this case and this one based on his claim that he had the right under the presidential records act to keep classified documents.
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judge cannon has given lawyers on both sides another few weeks to submit proposed jury instructions about that question . that has raised eyebrows among legal experts watching this case closely, some of whom are describing judge cannon's order with words like insane. joining me now is a former senior justice department official and cohost of prosecuting donald trump podcast. good evening, mary and i find this a little hard to follow. she has asked both sides to come up with, i don't know, draft jury questions or instructions about matters relating to donald trump's claim and i didn't know that happens and it doesn't happen a lot in law and order but make sense of that. >> judges do ask parties for proposed jury instructions and they don't do that many many months before trial that hasn't even been scheduled yet. they do that when we are on the eve of trial and often they do that in the middle of trial and they ask the parties given how
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the evidence has come out to proposed jury instructions. this isn't even about the proposed jury instructions. she has made this clear and it will be a later time for this. this is an exercise. she is putting the government's and mr. trump's attorneys to like hypothesize with me here. these two competing scenarios and neither one of which has any basis in law. but they make us wonder if she isn't trying to push decisions that she should be making, legal decisions that she should be making right now and push those to the time of the jury and asking things like, should be the jury who looks at each document and decides to the government prove its personal or presidential and the definition of presidential records are records that are prepared for the president or by his step for him and executing his constitutional statutory or other official or ceremonial duties. personal records are the opposite of that which are
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purely personal and not for executing constitutional or statutory duties and of course these are original classified documents by the intelligence committee. clearly, presidential records that are provided to the president when he was the president in order for him to carry out his constitutional or statutory duties. but she neglects all of that and posits these competing scenarios, one in which the jury would decide these are and the other in which the jury would only decide was mr. trump designating them personal by not returning them to the archives and by simply not returning them to that mean they were personal x she is skipping over the legal decisions she has been asked to make and suggests she will leave some issues to the jury that shouldn't be jury issues. >> that is the part that has those of us who don't understand the law scratching
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our heads. the second question she asked in the second jury instruction she is asking the two legal teams about reads as follows, "a president has sole authority under the presidential records act to categorize records as personal or presidential during his or her presidency. neither a court or jury is permitted to make a review such a categorization decision." this is what we were talking about but i want to read this for the viewers so they know what we are talking about. this seems like a very very big deal and a very very big legal deal that speaks to the merits of this case and it doesn't feel like sort of a casual thing you put to a jury before you have that. >> that's right. other arguments the government made that she hasn't dealt with are things like the presidential records act has nothing to do with the criminal charges against him which are under criminal united states code provisions that say, you can't retain national defense information when you aren't
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authorized to have it and you have been asked to return it and that was separate from personal or presidential as we have discussed. there is no rule in which these documents are personal records. the danger here is that if she lets us go to trial, she could actually take the issue away from the jury and she could do something called grant a motion for a judgment of acquittal, a rule 29 motion at the end of the government's case and say i am finding the government didn't prove that these weren't personal records. and i am direct in a judgment of acquittal. that is something the government can't appeal. it is just as though a jury had found somebody not guilty and the government can't appeal that. i think a lot of people looking at this are feeling skeptical about what her motives are here and why isn't she dealing with the legal issues the way she was asked to do and why is she
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suggesting she will push things off to the trial? it could be she won't do that and leave it to a jury. these are really legal questions. she is assuming those responses and not engaging with the government's arguments. >> i knew you would understand this better and i appreciate that. thank you very much. >> she is a former official and a cohost of a podcast. if you thought the overturning of roe v. wade would be the assault on reproductive rights think again. evidence of this dystopian direction the things appear to be headed is up next. make your dream car...a reality. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned vehicles are rigorously inspected to live up to the highest of expectations.
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less than two years ago the south carolina senator lindsey graham made his fellow conservatives clutch their pearls when he introduced a bill that would ban abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy across the country. at the time, it was unthinkable and way out there. the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to answer questions about it and said most republican senators prefer this be handled at the state level. senator cornyn of texas said this was in a conference decision and graham had gone rogue. his bill was untouchable and a third rail that went nowhere until now. >> the number of weeks people are agreeing on, 15 and i am
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thinking in terms of that and it'll come out to something that's very reasonable. >> democrats are radical in this issue because it's okay to have an abortion at seven 89 months or even after birth according to that. >> donald trump wants a national 15 week abortion ban and what lindsey graham suggested which would apply to every state including states that have enshrined the right to abortion in their state constitutions. he calls this very reasonable and said democrats, the ones who support access to abortion our radicals. this is a pattern in the conservative movement that roe v. wade is gone and they are shifting the middle ground. what was fringe and unthinkable two years ago is now marketed as moderate. a bending access to in vitro fertilization for example is considered unimaginable until alabama supreme court did it
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last month. if you think there is a reproductive freedom that is so socially protected that conservatives could never touch it, think again. for example here is ben shapiro, a right wing pundit, last year. >> it's a political third rail and if you mentioned there are side effects to taking the birth control pill, which by the way many are known about and listed as side effects, but if you talk about this it somehow means you are an uber religious fanatic. >> that is how he introduced aghast on his radio show who was there to warn the public about the perils of hormonal birth control. >> there is a lot of impact that has including partner selection and they found women on birth control pills tend to be attracted to men that are less traditionally masculine which is interesting and may have societal impacts. >> women on birth control pills are attracted to men who are less traditionally masculine. i don't even know what to make
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of that. this year, this is what young women and teenagers are hearing. >> having a . is so stupid so i take birth control and skip the placebo. >> i used to do that too and i can't believe how brainwashed we have been is women. >> birth control gave me blood clots. >> birth control will give you a lot of symptoms so instead how about we teach women to live in tune with your cycles. >> you are only fertile for 24 hours each month. >> your body tells you when you are fertile or not. >> if you're a teenager don't take that because it's bad for you and keep watching this. listen to me. when i tell you all that this work. .. on time every time. >> there is now a world of influencers cautioning women against hormonal birth control and marketing what they say are
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replacement products and some art representing themselves as experts but most of them are not but they are gaining followers well contributing to a new questionable industry. que. control nearly every aspect of r women's reproductive healthcare. that is essentially what all of this is about. control. very reasonable.
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since the supreme court overturned roe v wade giving citizens control over reproductive freedom, many states have a valid be handed out right or restricted the procedure. louisiana has spanned it out right but it is allowed when the life of the pregnant person is in danger. here's the thing. the state of louisiana is very unclear about when that exception applies. the obscurity forces doctors to question what qualifies as an exception and what does not. will i be prosecuted for saving this person's life? this is not hyperbole. according to a new report,
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doctors in louisiana are delaying necessary reproductive healthcare, including treatment for ectopic pregnancies, a condition that is not immediately treated can be deadly out of fear of breaking the current wall which could land them up to 15 years in prison, $200,000 in fines, and the loss of their medical license. in one case, a patient said her care was delayed for so long her fallopian tubes ruptured. i could have died, she said in the report. i really could have died. joining me is the president and ceo of reproductive freedom for all. thank you for being with us. i was one of those who did not think, who thought this was about abortion and whether you believe in a human life and when it starts. i thought these were good faith beliefs. it is fully about control. the ivf, the idea that you can't be clear about who
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mollify's for abortion. it is really just about control. >> you know, i was with a couple hundred supporters today at an event in california. we were really digging into this exact issue. we know it wasn't that long ago that women in this country cannot purchase property or get a credit card without the control of their spouse. there were women in the room who i was meeting with today who are supporters of our work remember those days. it was not that long ago. it was when our mothers were working in the workforce for the first time. it's when birth control became widely available in society. the fact that society has so fundamentally shifted since women got into the workforce, directly tied to the birth control pill. reproductive freedom has always been at the core of women's economic and social mobility. it's important to understand
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that that is 100% why there are conservative forces in the country that want to push us back into the shadows. it is 100% about power and control and we don't have to go that far back into history to make the connection. >> there was a report about what is going on in louisiana. there are descriptions of times in which doctors, instead of prescribing medication, are performing cesarean sections on women which is wild. performing the surgery on a woman. the quote here is that the doctor ended up having to take this person to a c-section to preserve the appearance of not doing an abortion even though it is not a viable pregnancy. >> this is the dystopian situation that the trump supreme court has wrought on this country. we have been talking about this since dobbs happened, that this was the natural outcome that would happen in state where we have band abortion and made incredibly hostile conditions
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for providers. we knew this was going to happen. it is happening real time. i am grateful that you are covering it. we know they disproportionately affect people of color that are most at the margins and places like louisiana. >> we have much more to talk about. i'm out of time for the show but we will continue to have this conversation. thank you for your time. mini timmaraju, the president and ceo of reproductive freedom for. it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening. that breaking news overnight about a u.n. resolution to be brought tomorrow by the united states about a cease-fire is a real turn in the story. i'm going to be here tomorrow night so i will be covering that tomorrow night. you will be covering it tomorrow night also. the big news items. >> it is a massive story and part of this growing shift in
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