i gotta get this deal... that's like $20 a month per unlimited line... i don't want to miss that. that's amazing doc. mobile savings are calling. visit xfinitymobile.com to learn more. doc? good evening, and welcome to ayman. tonight, congress has done its job averting another government shutdown, securing funding through september. they led their party into yet another tailspin over house speaker. in russia, a terrorist attack on the music hall. ice is no claiming responsibility. putin claiming to hit back. where does this leave the world? the former president of ireland tonight on her countries push for peace in gaza, just hours after a u.n. resolution fails to call for a cease-fire.

i am ayman. let's do it . we begin tonight with the very latest from capitol hill. the major headline from his speech is the senate has not passed a funding bill to keep the government open by a vote of 88 votes in favor, nine opposed. >> i have enough republicans where this point next week, one of two things will happen. kevin mccarthy won't be the speaker of the house or he will be the speaker working at the pleasure of the democrats per >> and historic moment. for the first time in the history of the united states, the speaker of the house has been removed. >> the government shutdown averted at least until mid- november. the deal will keep the government funded for another 45 days. >> the bill we passed on saturday kicks the can down the road per >> i know, i know. if watching that makes you feel

like it is groundhogs day, don't worry. you are not the only one. in fact i am wearing a blue shirt as well. all of those clips you just saw there were actually from back in the fall and actually appears to be a reboot that is playing out right now on capitol hill. it is the same plot, yes, but with a slightly different cast of characters. in the early hours of the morning, the senate passed a government funding bill. yes, averting the risk of a shutdown for now. however, it doesn't appear house speaker mike johnson will be taking a victory lap anytime soon. the republican leader is already facing the prospect of a humiliating ouster at the hands of his own caucus with congresswoman marjorie taylor green putting forward a motion to vacate johnson speakership. a gop speaker fresh off of a funding deal with democrats staring down threats of a coup from the maga wing of their own party, well, we know how that turned out for evan mccarthy. now it is speaker johnson in the hot seat and things might

actually be worth -- worse for mccarthys successor. there is not much that republicans can brag about. some of the most controversial stipulations like immigration are nowhere to be found in the bill. and in the end, the spending levels aren't that far off from the deal that mccarthy struck with the white house last cut summer. and the republicans posted a five seat majority, however, that number, under speaker johnson, seems to be shrinking by the day. friday marks the final day in congress for representative ken buck. buck, who was all but vanished from the party after he turned against the ex- president, voted no on yesterday's spending bill. just a few hours after that vote, congressman mike gallagher, who already announced plans to retire, told him that he would be handing in his pink slip early, exiting congress next month. his move leaves johnson with,

wait for, just a one-vote margin . literally, one. but it doesn't stop there. things are so bad for republicans right now it seems they even lost, and you won't believe this, folks, george santos. also on friday, the disgraced former republican congressman says that he plans to run as an independent, not as a republican in new york's first district later this year. santos cited, quote, today's embarrassing showing in the house is his reason for switching parties. i have to pause here for a second and say you know it is bad when the man currently accused of using donor funds to pay for only fans and botox is embarrassed to be part of your party. let's kick this hour off with nbc senior and national political reporter sal kapoor. great to have you with us. you have a new piece out on nbc.com breaking down all of this. what i think is a perfect headline. republicans had a bad day and

based on what we have seen over the past 24 hours, it is safe to say that is an understatement. what is going on with the gop? >> yesterday was really a jarring distillation of all the problems that are plaguing house republicans, whether it is the fractures in governing. remember, most of the house voted against that government funding bill. there speaker of the house, mike johnson, negotiated, said it was a good bill. these institutions were on display. mike gallagher, only 40 years old. widely seen as a rising star in the party. he is the chair of the select committee in china. not only is he retiring but he is leaving early, and about a month, which is going to further thin the ranks of the republican majority. ken buckley, who is also a minor, lost his stature demanding that his party stand up. his party's leader stand up and emphatically rejects this big lie. that of course, did not go his way, and he was in a downwards spiral from there.

we saw the infighting that crept up again when marjorie taylor greene issue that threat to call out a vote to overthrow speaker mike johnson. now, the difference here is that she is not actually triggering that vote. that is a different thing than what matt gates did. he actually said they had to hold it within two legislative days. she has written this out on a piece of paper and is dangling it over speaker johnson said, saying, if you step out of line, i'm going to use this against you. that is where things are right now. she doesn't seem to have a whole lot of friends. even some of the republicans who voted to remove senator mccarthy, including matt gates do not support removing mike johnson at this moment. they are battle scarred from that experience last fall. do not end up getting any better for them because mike johnson and the passing of government funding bill along the lines of what was negotiated. you can't change the physics of congress, the mass of congress. democrats still control the

senate and the white house. >> so it is funny how they sucked up so much energy in washington. the house actually left town for a two-week recess. they did that without agreeing on aid for ukraine or israel or any aid for the people suffering in gaza. what do you hear on those fronts? will they be front and center when the house returns in two weeks has this really been kicked down the road now for sometime? >> it will be front and center when the house returns in two weeks, when the senate comes back. the senate has already passed a $95 billion aid package for israel, for ukraine, assistance to taiwan. pre-much the full package of what president biden wants. in the house has yet to act. now, speaker johnson has said they will turn to it. he is using his words very carefully. they will consider it. they will turn to a. he has not made any commitments about what if anything the house will do. he has not promised that the bill will necessarily come to the floor. he says it is something they will consider. he is clearly torn between his

maga wing, the trump aligned wing. marjorie taylor greene's threat could factor in here. i spoke to her just a few days ago and she said ukraine aid would be a redline for her. it might cause her to force that vote to remove him. that will be on the speakers mind, even though he says he is not coming to a decision based on that. and then there is that wing of the party, the former policy with the post-world war ii order that you hear speaker johnson talking about along those lines as well. what is he going to do? anything could happen. >> all right, sahil kapur . thank you so much. with us now, new mexican congresswoman, melanie stansbury , a democrat. thank you for making time for us tonight. i will start with the spending bill that was signed by president biden earlier today. for agencies like defense, financial services, homeland security, among others.

what you make of this agreement? what you think it fell short? you think it did well? >> thanks for having me on. it was obviously a necessary for mice in order to keep the government open for the rest of the fiscal year. i think the democrats are claiming some big wins, like increased military service numbers, keeping the government open, governing because our friends across the aisle are not willing to. we passed the bill with democratic votes, ironically. obviously, there are some poison pill writers that did make it in the bill and i think it really highlights, i mean, we are six months after the fiscal year began. the current majority cannot govern. they are completely dysfunctional and here we are, trying to keep the government open midyear print so it was a necessary compromise but i think a great consequence for our people. and obviously it did not address the international crises which are happening, and

we must make good on our responsibilities to our allies. >> speaking of that dysfunctional governing majority, a few moments ago, i ran through some of the gop chaos that we have seen over the past 24 hours, including the shrinking majority for speaker johnson. at this rate, could it democratic majority possibly be in reach? >> i think so. i mean, look. we've got one seat difference now on any vote that comes before congress. we have mike gallagher now saying he is going to leave in april. we have the chairwoman of the most powerful committee in congress who said she is stepping down from her chairwoman role on friday as well. we've got marjorie taylor- greene, the ouster of the speaker. and i think what you see, especially as a member, you here in the hallways. i hear it when i am talking with my colleagues across the aisle. they are very disgusted with their own party. and they see other institutionalist and government conservatives leave congress

before the end of the year because they just can't take it. >> i was going to ask you about that. it doesn't seem that it is just about mike johnson leadership. it is people leaving early and purposely putting their party in a bind because they are fed up with the party. what do you hear from your republican colleagues? what is it about the state of the party that is making them want to abandon it in this moment? >> yeah. i think we are seeing the fall of the republican party, which has really become the party of donald trump. as we all know, donald trump cares most about donald trump. so it is at the expense of american democracy, at the expense of peace in europe around the world, if it is at the expense of our communities and our economy, people do anything to get back in power. and members of their own parties if they don't fall in line. i think many people who run for public office care deeply about their communities. and they see the way in which

the republican party has been shredded into a three ring circus and these clowns who are holding our government and our economy and world peace hostage. when i look at the current situation, for example, in europe, just weeks ago, the united states was in this conference and we are looking at a situation similar to what was happening in europe in 1939, where putin is ready to potentially invade other countries and you have got a candidate for the presidency who is actually encouraging our foreign enemies to potentially invade european countries while he is telling members of congress to not pass the age. that would be considered treason in another era. yet here he is as the front runner of the republican party and i think, frankly, traditional conservatives and traditional republican members of the party are disgusted by

the undermining of democracy and what it means to be an american. >> i was going to say, we finish the segment with what i said at the top. this kicks the can down the road because it is not a permanent solution. maybe six months from now you will be in the majority and we will not have a dysfunctional congress had congresswoman melanie stansbury. always a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. next, the death toll in the attack on a music hall in moscow now surpassing 100. what we know about the terrorist attack and the promise of retribution now coming from the kremlin.

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at least 133 people have died from friday's attack on a moscow concert venue. the most deadly terrorist attack russia has seen in decades. gunmen opened fire on the crowd and then set fire to the concert hall. russia has arrested 11 people including the four gunmen expected of carrying out the attack. isis, the afghanistan based terrorist organization, has claimed responsibility. u.s. officials had shared information about a potential attack with the russian government earlier this month but president vladimir putin dismissed it. today, though, vladimir putin added another twist. >> translator: they tried to hide and

>> joining us now from london, nbc news former correspondent. walk us through your latest reporting on putin's response to this attack, how it is being interpreted. he claims that ukraine was involved in trying to help the suspects escaped. have we seen any evidence to that end so far? >> we haven't. you are right, and saying that he implied that the ukrainians were the puppetmaster behind the deadly attacks that we saw last night is, of course, politically expedient for putin to say that. we know that isis, as you mentioned, has claimed responsibility for the attack. u.s. intelligence officials have said they believe that claim. they have no reason not to. remember, american intelligence officials said they have been tipped off to the plans weeks ago before they even warned the russians in advance. that hasn't stopped russian politicians like putin and his allies from trying to blame

ukraine. some of the ukrainians have vehemently denied and they are not just denying it. they have been really killing claims all day. and even zelenskyy just now, the president, in his address, he said it was predictable that putin would blame ukraine and suggested that the hundreds of thousands of russian troops in ukraine would be better used or better off fighting terrorism inside russia. now russia isn't new to terrorist attacks but there are some signs that this has rattled the crowd. it took putin 19 hours to come out and address the russian public about this tragedy. as the death toll rises it is increasingly looking like it is a defining moment in russian history. since it comes just a few days after putin announced his latest electoral victory and boasted that he alone can protect russia, this just isn't a good look. ayman. >> matt bradley, thank you. joining us now, nbc news

national analyst clint watts. he is the author of messing with the enemy: surviving in a social media world of hackers, terrorists, and fake news. great to have you on to talk about this. i want to start by getting your thoughts on this. the group claiming responsibility for this attack. why would this organization go after russia specifically? what does this attack say about their capabilities more broadly at this moment? >> i mean, a couple of keynotes to think about. when you are hearing about the news coming out of russia, one, the islamic state is afghanistan and pakistan. those are the ones who -- horrific suicide bombing as the u.s. was withdrawing from afghanistan. they have grown in strength over the years because they are really a new generation of terrorists. some replaced a lot of al qaeda that was based in afghanistan.

they have taken over for many of the taliban remnants. and it appears that what you would have seen from al qaeda or iraq is going after all nations and even threatening major countries like china, iran, or russia. in part that is because many of the foreign fighters to afghanistan in the final years of isis growth were actually from russia. this is from chechnya and other regions. many of those parts of the former soviet states have people that have joined the islamic state, which makes it more able to actually go back into the border. i think the bigger picture is they have done attacks beyond just this one in russia. just in the last few weeks they did a major attack inside iran. they did several attacks showing their growing capability at the time when you don't see u.s. forces necessarily in afghanistan. you don't see the same kind of

counterterrorism pressure that was in south asia over the last two decades. >> what you make of vladimir putin quickly invoking ukraine, saying that they believe that russians believe that these perpetrators were somehow on their way to ukraine as an escape route, and the on the ukrainian side, there was some attempt to facilitate this? it seems that there is a bit of a stretch. i asked her correspondent if there was any evidence to suggest that yet. none so far. what you make of him quickly pivoting to ukraine in this narrative? >> i mean, if you are on pro- russian telegram channels, which are with the agents of russia, yesterday they were blaming ukraine before they even had the suspects. this was the narrative that they wanted. that comes for a couple of reasons. one, latimer putin had just talked about how strong he was. if he is not strong on terrorism, what can he do or who can he blame but ukraine? second, ukraine is who he wants to connect everything to but if

you think of the literal insanity of this, two years ago he was claiming that ukraine was about while the leader of the group was fighting for the russians and wearing a uniform. now he is claiming that ukraine works for terrorist which is pretty far-fetched. so they claim that it was ukrainian source. every time you see one of those layers, that is putin showing what he wants to have the outcome be in the information space and also trying to throw everything against the wall hoping something will stick. he wants to convince the russian people, the audience he is most worried about right now, that it has something to do with ukraine. >> can you tell us a little bit about what we are reporting on? the potential terrorist attack as in this case, russia has done the same in the past for iran when it gathers this type of intelligence? what is the significance of the u.s. during that type of intelligence with russia?

is it normal? why did putin disregard it knowing it might come at the expense of his own people? >> yeah. i mean, i think it is the policy of duty. if you know what an eminent terrorist attack is coming, is going to target civilians. exactly what we saw yesterday. the u.s. government goes out of its way to notify other countries even if they are adversaries to end a terrorist attack. they did that here. they do this quite often. i think it is remarkable that there is much debate about who did it when the u.s. government's own warning from the state department pegged this exactly as it was. they even mentioned concerts for this was the concert hall. so it seemed like they had remarkably good intelligence. the u.s. still has really good intelligence on the islamic state. but separately, it just really points to vladimir putin and what he is trying to do. not only did the u.s. reach out and really try to help him, the russians had arrested some islamic state suspects in the last week inside russia.

so there is plenty of evidence to point to this is exactly what they thought would happen from u.s. intelligence. you see the russian government trying to cover because it was a major failure on their part. >> clint watts, greatly appreciate you giving these insights. we're going to check back with you later on in the hour about another story we are following. thank you for now. after the break we will turn to israel's war on gaza and the world powers pressuring president biden to step it up in trying to bring about an end to it. among them, ireland's former president, mary robinson, who is our next guest. mist. flonase all good. also, try our allergy headache and nighttime pills.

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to deliver. >> the irish people are deeply troubled about the catastrophe unfolding before our eyes in gaza. the people in gaza desperately need food, medicine, and shelter. most important, they need the bombs to stop for this has to stop on both sides. >> perhaps no country in europe has been as outspokenly critical of israel's war on gaza as has ireland. 79% of irish citizens support palestine and believe israel is committing genocide in gaza. this report is translated into mass rallies in places like dublin. murals painted on the international while in belfast show support for the palestinian people. over 200 of the best sports stars have signed an open letter, calling for an immediate and permanent cease- fire in gaza. so why this focus on ireland? why haven't citizens become such staunch supporters of palestinians and specifically in gaza?

it is because the irish can relate, pointing to parallels between the palestinians experience under occupation and their own experience with seven settler colonization and violence. ireland was under british rule for centuries until 1921 following the irish war of independence. the new york times says that britain granted independence to much of the country but held onto the six counties that still make up northern ireland and remain part of the uk. that legislation provided the template for partitions in other former british colonies, including india pakistan in 1947 and israel and palestine the following year. and then came the troubles. from the late 1960s to 1998, northern ireland suffered through a conflict fought between protestant unionists who wanted to remain part of the uk and catholic nationalists who wanted northern ireland to join the republic. british forces controlled city streets, and they segregated cities by putting up

segregation walls and installing military checkpoints, an identical scene to what we see in the palestinian territories today. it was a violent time. nearly 4000 people were killed. the majority civilians. as popular irish podcaster david chambers says, quote, when we see palestine people shot dead while waving white flags, that is an immediate cultural memory. chambers references the infamous bloody sunday massacre when british soldiers shot and killed unarmed processors at a civil rights demonstration. this shared history has prompted ireland to take action in ways other countries have not. in 2021, the irish parliament condemned the de facto annexation of palestinian land, making them the first eu country to do so. when hamas attacked israel on october 7th, the irish prime minister condemned it but less than a week later he became an outlier among western nations. >> israel is under duress. they do have a right to defend

themselves but they don't have the right to reach international humanitarian law. i am really concerned about what i'm seeing happening in gaza at the moment. >> in september ireland called for a cease-fire. irish lawmakers have also posed sanctions on israel, preventing u.s. arms from costing its airspace. they have also brought in to review the trade deal with israel. that brings us back to leo varadkar. his visit to the white house and his cease-fire demand last week. did have impact on president biden. yesterday the u.s. introduced a resolution calling for a cease- fire being important, although it fell short of calling for an immediate halt to the war. it was vetoed by russia and china. is it too little too late for the u.s. and joe biden's reputation? the former president of ireland mary robinson warned in december, president biden's support for israel's

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as we discussed before the break, ireland has a history of having the backs of the palestinian people long considered one of the most pro- palestinian nations in the world given their common history . with israel's war on gaza now, it is no different. as i discussed a short time ago with the former president of ireland, mary robinson. mary robinson, thank you so much for joining us. let's start with the resolution that the u.s. put forward to the united nations yesterday, which did not pass. here is what you and ambassador linda greenfield thomas had to say when addressing the un security council. take a listen. >> the united states are working around the clock in the region to secure an immediate and sustained cease-fire as

part of a deal that leads to the release of all hostages by hamas and other groups. that will help us address the dire humanitarian crisis in gaza. we believe we are close. we are not there yet, unfortunately. >> the problem, obviously, is that the u.s. has previously vetoed resolutions calling for an immediate cease-fire. is this a case of doing the bare minimum here? what do you make of the u.s. position on this specific issue in the u.n. resolution? >> i watched that speech by linda who i know quite well. i think, unfortunately, it didn't stop the cynical that is going on. the fact that both russia and china vetoed because they didn't want the resolution to go through. it didn't call for an immediate cease-fire, so that was the reason given.

also, it didn't support them. but this is game playing. this is a disgrace to the security council. a very angry because it is really unfortunate that the chief organizer of the u.n. on peace and security is playing games. yes. in the u.s. unfortunately has had serial vetoes before and should realize that we need a cease-fire. because of what is happening in gaza, this is appalling. truly awful. >> the secretary of state antony blinken met with benjamin netanyahu yesterday. to kind of see where israel is going with this. certainly he was told, at least the report suggests that not only did netanyahu reject blinken's plea here but he

also approved the seizure of another 800 hectares of palestinian land in the occupied west bank. how is this not an utter failure of american diplomacy that on the date the secretary of state is in israel to talk with the prime minister they turn around and announce one of the largest settlement expansions in decades? >> i think it is a sign of the united states weakness, precisely because the united states is not using the leverage that it has. it has the leverage to say, we will no longer provide arms. we will no longer provide the type of budgetary support if you continue at the moment. and i am very sorry about that approval of further seizures in the west bank. when the u.n. former secretary and myself were in east jerusalem in june, we were shocked with what we saw. shocked by the way this government was having a sort of jewish sump -- supremacy approach.

and a number of israeli activists and former ambassadors were telling us that under this government, their country was committing this crime. we included that in the report in june. and we were absolutely shocked at how bad things were. unfortunately, after the horrendous attacks, the situation on the west bank is also so much worse. and over 400 palestinians have been killed. say that about 100 of them were children. so in both parts, in gaza itself but also the west, things are really bad and that is not good for israel. >> when you take what happened at the u.n., what happened with the secretary of state in israel with the announcement of the settlements, i think back to your comments in december the president biden support for israel was, quote, losing him respect all over the world.

do you still stand by that? do you think it has gotten worse in light of what we are seeing play out in the past 48 hours or so? >> i am afraid it is getting steadily much worse because of the reality on the ground. we are watching a famine happening that didn't need to happen. that is truly shocking. we are watching children, women, elderly starving. and i know that we are in the process of the u.n. for deciding that this famine is very conservative. i remember somalia in 2011. by the time they announced famine, people had already died in the hundreds and thousands. so people are dying alread children are badly malnourished and the world is watching. i can see from social media that the united states and president biden in particular, unfortunately, is losing its moral compass. it is losing credibility. it is no longer the statement

that is wise and experienced in this. he is letting a famine unfold because he won't stand up to israel at the point where israel is showing that they are not going to pay attention. >> let me ask you about some of the efforts by other countries to carve out a different path if there is a different path forward. i will start with the prime minister of ireland who joined slovenia and spain yesterday to not only renew calls for a cease-fire but then to indicate they are ready to recognize palestine as an independent state, quote, when the circumstances are right. is this significant or is this simply diplomatic posturing on their part? >> i think this is significant. when we were at the munich security conference, we met with a number of foreign ministers and also actually with the prime minister who was at the conference. they said, we are more than ready to recognize.

we don't want to go ahead of everybody else. we wish that there were more of us in the eu. the number is growing and they do want to recognize this and make it clear that there has to be a way forward. with palestine, side by side with israel, supported by the whole region. we talked to a lot of our ministers of the region and there really is a prospect for peace. i know that antony blinken is working very hard on that and i appreciate that he is making huge efforts. he is a visitor to the region. we need an urgent cease-fire absolutely now. we need the released of hostages but we need them going into really secure the lives of nearly 2 million people now. it is really shocking. >> israel hasn't shown any signs of slowing down this war. they have increased it, as we saw yesterday. i guess the question, in another way, is there anything the international community can do without the u.s. of this

point, given that the u.s. is now willing to stand up to israel? >> i understand there are defense experts who are maybe in washington already to talk with the biden administration and the leadership in the united states. they must be told that the idea of moving against the civilians, the starving population in rafa and elsewhere, the world will not tolerate it. my hopes is that the eu will continue. it made a much stronger statement than it has ever made. at least there is a growing awareness that europe too is becoming complicit in what is a famine that didn't need to happen. my goodness, in the 21st century. have they gone crazy. i really regret that the united states doesn't understand the need to support them. you know, this is a large organization. they have had differences in

some of the seventh of october. let unrwa deal with that. they should deal with it. but they shouldn't stop funding of an essential body for distribution. we are going to need distribution massively. if we can just get it in time for >> former president of ireland, mary robinson. thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciate your insights this evening. thank you. >> thank you. next, when logic fails, get personal. arizona state senator ava birch on her decision to go public with her medical need for an abortion. hear including those that could send me to the hospital. so now i look forward to more good days.

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this week, arizona state senator emma birch did something unprecedented. after finding out her pregnancy was not viable, she took the senate floor to announce her need to have an abortion. birch, a mother of two, spoke directly to the very republicans who passed extreme laws limiting her ability to get the

procedure that was medically necessary. >> first, i was required to have another ultrasound at the abortion clinic. i didn't have an ultrasound because my doctor thought i needed one. i had one because legislation has forced me to do that. then i got to sit through an exhaustive list of absolute disinformation that was read off to me. i was told that there were alternatives to abortion. parenting or adoption among them, as if delivering a healthy baby is an option for me. from where i sat the only reason i had to hear those things was because it was a cruel and really uninformed attempt by outside forces to shame and course and frighten me into making a different decision other than the one that i knew was right for me. >> arizona state senator ava birch joins me now. thank you for joining us. it has been a very challenging week, a personal week for you. i guess i wanted to ask you what motivated you to share this story not just with your colleagues and the people of your state but with the entire country. something that is so personal.

>> thank you so much for having me. i really appreciate the opportunity to be here. i will tell you that i really felt strongly that the people in arizona don't necessarily always get an inside look into what is happening in their legislature and how that impacts people on a day-to-day basis. i felt very responsible to bring some light to that. we have extremist politicians who are crafting these laws with no background in healthcare and they aren't interested in patients having good outcomes or getting high quality care. they transparently and openly want to manipulate them and frighten them, and they are using laws to try to coerce doctors into changing patient's minds with no regard for circumstance. i knew this was an opportunity that i had to take advantage of and so i did. >> you have had a difficult fertility journey, along with two successful pregnancies. you have experienced a previous abortion, several miscarriages. many women in america actually share a similar experience. in fact, the data shows that

most women who obtain an abortion are already mothers. yet, the gop, as we have seen time and time again, they have tried to build a nice reproductive care and those who are seeking it. how important and how do you break this stigma around abortion? >> i will tell you that i have had hundreds, i have probably had thousands of emails and messages sent to me of women just telling me there and stories. and some of them are very similar and some of them different, but also just very powerful. i think that while i think it is important for people to be able to tell their stories if they want to and if they feel comfortable doing so, i think it is more important that we are paying attention to what is happening in the political landscape and that we are electing people that are really ready to represent the values that most of us share. these abortion bands are incredibly unpopular, and most people believe, most voters in arizona believe that these

decisions should be between a medical provider and the patient. and that the legislature should stay out of it. so i think that what we really can and should do is pay attention to what is happening in our local politics and nationwide as well and make sure that we are being accurately represented. getting people involved and engaged in the political process. i don't just think that we need more people willing to share their stories and defend themselves. we shouldn't have to defend ourselves. what we should do is find people who are willing to do the right thing. >> speaking of elected officials, i am curious to know what the reaction from your republican colleagues has been to the way you have come out with your story and shared your experience. it is one thing, i assume, for them to legislate about abortion as a concept that they don't have to actually personalize and deal with, but by giving the speech that you did and putting a face to the cruelty of their laws that they have created, how have they reacted to that? have you shown any -- have they

shown any compassion towards you whatsoever? >> crickets. not a lot of reaction from my republican colleagues. what i will say about that is this. if i am telling the people who are creating these laws that these laws are causing serious problems, that they are hurting people, and they are not concerned about that, then it means that the laws are doing what they intended for the laws to do. that is really my belief. most arizonans are not being represented in the arizona legislature. and the constituents can't go to their legislature legislator in their district. unless they are represented as a republican. otherwise they have to go looking for a republican and hope that they can get someone to take on their concern. and if their idea has even vaguely progressive values then it doesn't have a hope. the arizona senate operates like a right-wing think tank.

they don't have to entertain anything that doesn't fit their very narrow view of the world. that is not how the government is supposed to work. it is supposed to be balanced and representative. we are supposed to work together but that has not been my experience so far so i am not surprised by the reaction that i have had but it is because they have things going exactly how they want them to. >> we have about 40 seconds left. do you see or expect a way around the republican legislature in arizona? could this be a ballot initiative come november in a meaningful way to protect reproductive rights in arizona? >> absolutely. we have a ballot initiative collecting signatures right now that i expect to be on the ballot that will help to put reproductive health care, to put abortion rights into the arizona constitution. that would make a significant difference. there is a possibility that the republicans are going to try to put competing ballot initiative together but i think it is to their own peril. this is not a popular

initiative. i am not sure why they are digging their feet in this way because we should be listening to the people of arizona and looking at what is happening around the world. >> one more reminder of what is at stake. arizona state senator, eva burch . thank you for coming forward with your story and spending some time with us tonight. >> thank you. a new our of ayman after this break .

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