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that does it for me. we have exciting gas joining us tomorrow night including former senator al franken. tune in tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss the sunday show with jonathan cape are. he will interview former national security adviser susan rice tonight at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. stay where you are because there's more news coming up on msnbc. a very good day to all of you. welcome to alex witt reports. the clock ticking for donald trump and the nearly $450 million bond the -- judgment
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due tomorrow. he paces seizes up his assets if he cannot come up with the cash. he claims he has the money, but wants to spend it on his campaign. former white house official omarosa newman will be talking to me in our next hour. he will return to new york state court tomorrow. his legal team and prosecutors will spar over giving the defense over 100 pages of documents just weeks before the trial scheduled start date. meantime fani willis speaking about her willingness to prosecute trump's election interference case in georgia. >> there is one district attorney in the state really around the country who have had the courage to do this and she continues to do this. the case landed in fulton county not by anything that idea, but the action of others.
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when a case lands in my jurisdiction i'm going to prosecute. >> also one of donald trump's vip pick speaking on the talk show this morning. >> i think anyone offer -- offered the opportunity to serve the country should be honored. i am in the senate because i want to serve the country. i've been clear, i've never talked to donald trump, anyone in his inner circle. that is a decision he's going to make. he has plenty of really good people to pick from. russia observing a national day of mourning two days after a deadly terrorist attack in a concert venue. president vladimir putin said saturday russian authorities arrested 11 suspects and ukraine was behind the attack. vice president kamala harris refuting the claim. >> there is no evidence
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whatsoever. in fact what we know to be the case is isis-k is actually by all accounts responsible for what happened. >> we have a number of reporters and placed for you covering all of these new developments. we will begin with matt bradley in london with the very latest. what can you tell us about recovery efforts, the investigation into this attack and the warning across moscow today?>> reporter: certainly a solemn day in moscow and across russia. the country has just entered its deadliest terror attack in two decades. vigils were held, a particularly large one at city hall where a gunman went on a rampage two days ago. vladimir putin himself with the leg a flower in remembrance of the victims. the number of dead rose again today to 137. there are now some 154 left injured. many of them critically.
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here is one of the mourners explaining to them what this moment means to russians. russi >> reporter: meanwhile many families are still looking for their loved ones amid the rubble. more than 80 people are thought to still be missing or have not been identified among the dead. rescue workers are still combing through the burned-out wreckage of that concert hall. about a third of the roof collapsed during the huge fire. even as emergency workers are combing the ashes for bodies looking for black people, that into yesterday.
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investigators are also combing for clues. officials said yesterday they arrested all four perpetrators and none of the actual assailants are at large. they have also arrested a further 11 people who they believe are connected. despite the fact that isis-k has claimed credit, even went so far as to provide their own some video shot by the attackers themselves the kremlin still seems determined to blame ukraine where russian troops have been fighting for the past decade. ukraine and western allies have been pushing back forcefully. you just ran the sound from the vice president. that likely will not stop the from exploiting this tragedy to his own political end. meantime donald trump has just hours now to round up about half a billion dollars or face major financial consequences. >> reporter: tomorrow will mark a big day for former president trump here in new york city. not only for himself but his family and the family corporation that bears his
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name. tomorrow is the deadline for donald trump to post that appeal bond. he has had several weeks to do so. his own attorney this last week writing an ocean to an appeals court the donald trump has been unable. they have gone to 30 different surety companies. none have been willing to put up this bond, saying they cannot use property, his properties as collateral. instead they need cash to put up the bond. so far donald trump has been unable to either himself or with others post that. the issue is the fact that donald trump just the other morning undercut his own attorney's claims on a social media post claiming he did have nearly half $1 billion cash on hand. tomorrow the new york attorney general has already stated and already begun to go through the process to begin seizing his assets including properties right here in new york city as
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well as a county north of manhattan that includes his seven springs estate as well as the trump national golf club. this is a moment for donald trump of big unknown if in fact he is not able to either put up that appeal bond or get an appeals court to delay him having to find that $464 million. the other part of tomorrow is the fact that donald trump will be in new york city on an unrelated matter, one having to do with what will be his first of four criminal trials. this is the alleged hush money related trial related to payments to stormy daniels around the 2016 election. that trial date was supposed to begin tomorrow but has been delayed up to april 15. the hearing tomorrow which mr. trump will attend will likely be determined by the judge when that trial will actually commence. >> thank you for that report. now the capitol hill and new fallout over the government funding bill.
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julie, welcome on this sunday. what has been the reaction and what happens to ukraine now that congress is on recess?>> reporter: that is such a good question. this bill fully completes the appropriation process for fiscal year 2024. it has been a long one, nearing six shutdowns since october. they are ready to get it over with. the bill they passed on friday overnight late into the night on saturday definitely will fund the government, 70% of key agencies. you are right, ukraine is not a part of the legislation. the reporting that speaker johnson told us he indicates he wants to put a to ukraine on the floor in mid april, but certainly he will deal with hard-liners, including some trying to kick them out of a job. take a listen and what they said this morning. >> there is nothing in this bill that secure the border. this bill does everything to keep the biden administration's horrible border invasion going
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every single day. >> we should not put ukraine funding on the floor of the house unless we have come to an agreement that we will make sure it is real is taken care of, that we pay for this stuff and do what we are supposed to do to secure the border. >> reporter: you and our viewers surely remember seven weeks ago republicans blocked bipartisan efforts to secure the order and enhance border protection and fix the immigration problems we are seeing for this last year. nevertheless, tot republicans have told me they want to make sure any pairing for aid for ukraine is paired for funding and policy changes for the border. meanwhile, you have continued escalating barrages from russia to ukraine just overnight including in kyiv. aid to ukraine is something at the park -- that is something that michael mccall said just today. he says he wants and expects johnson will put some sort of a
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to ukraine on the floor as soon as they get packs april 9. sources close to the speaker tell me he is not currently planning to put that package on the floor. >> something different coming our way. thank you for that. donald trump's existential crisis and how to play out in the next 24 hours. we are back in 60 seconds. 0 se. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up. because it's smart, dependable, and steady. all words you want from your bank. for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring so you can be happily fulfilled... which is pretty un-boring if you think about it.
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the talking fast podcasts. and he with me on said the former assistant attorney general of new york. gentlemen, welcome to you both. so the new york times says today these cases represent two of trump's greatest fears, a criminal conviction and the public perception that he does not have as much cash as he claims. is trump having an existential moment or is it too soon to call it that? >> i don't think it's too soon. i think it is an adjustment for moment. i think the times piece is dead on. we know he is for example declare bankruptcy or at least companies have half a dozen time. now he is in a different position as a political candidate. one through line for donald trump if he had mortal fear of being a loser. having come out and declare, contrary to his lawyers on friday that he has the money in
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hand. if he tomorrow comes up short and let's letitia james begin the process of attaching his assets he is a loser. with no great financial sophistication on my part, maybe a little bit of how it would work, my best guess is he somehow comes up with this. but all of these scenarios, truth social the best, i'm sure adam and you will go into that. of all those scenarios they enact x essential harm on him. he could win in the sense of having the money on hand, but it would be a totally devastating blow to his business in new york. >> here is a scenario i want to play out. you said letitia james might be willing to accept 250-$300 million in payment for the judgment due to him. first of all why do you think that is a possibility?
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secondly, if any regular person was to pay a good portion of what they have to with the rest of that be forgiven? or is that just a down payment for donald trump? >> i think it's a great question. most court cases settle, they do. here the attorney general has some risk of appeal that the trump appeal might be successful. i think in any type of court case a compromise is sometimes warranted. spit balling numbers. if it is a $450 million judgment, if he were to come with his checkbook open and offer $300 million, i think the office would have to responsibly consider. >> but again anybody else, is that normal? do you make deals? >> i think lawyers are continuously evaluating risk and evaluating what might happen on appeal and coming to some sort of compromise can
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benefit everybody. >> adam, what about letitia james appearing today in the event that trump does not come up with the cash? >> tomorrow i do think we will cma for tb moment or a swarm of attorney generals rushing out to see assets. what you should see is some behind the scenes action. the sheriff and marshals can go to banks, this is kind of a formal legal document. nobody dies except for the assets. they come to the bank and hand an execution to a branch manager and start the process of draining the assets from those bank accounts. that's probably the first move. the law says the bank account has to be empty first with. >> if this hush money case goes forward, trump then earns the
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very dubious distinction of becoming the first former american presidents of a criminal trial. stormy daniels, the potential star witness says she is ready to testify. can this case turn into a wildcard? can it be more damaging and he may expect? >> i think it could in the sense that bragg is trying to make a point to the american people, which is it is not a hush money case, it is not a sex case, it is a voter deception case. why did he do it? he did it because he was in a precarious position after the access hollywood tape came out and he wanted to keep that information from the voters so that he could win the election. that makes it seem not at the moment necessary of january 6th or fulton county, but still not a just peccadillo. it is a serious attempt to deceive. i just wanted to say very quickly about adams point, the
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idea of a settlement here would be not to reduce the bond, which he's trying to do with the court of appeals, it would be to end the case. if they make that deal it is all over and he cannot appeal any longer as opposed to just trying to reduce it, which i think your question is right to assume she would be dispensing that kind of charity to him just willy-nilly. >> let me get with you harry on the classified documents case. the head scratcher of a ruling that has led to a firestorm for the judge's removal. she is asking the prosecution to ride jury instructions that can lead to acquittal. never mind the fact there is no jury in place because there is no trial date. what is happening? can she really be off the case? does he really want to do that?
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>> no doubt. they were thinking at the start this with the downside and i think they just got unlucky. the two questions are very connected. in my mind the best explanation for the wholeheartedly bizarre ruling she entered is she is looking to somehow make a ruling for trump after the trial against. jury instructions would be then and she did this in another order. the really pernicious aspects of that is if the jury has been impaneled and she dismisses the case for whatever crazy reason, he cannot be retried under the constitution. that goes to the point could jack smith now move to recuse her? it is hard. i think by divine she hasn't given how much to hold onto. she has asked them to engage in this academic discussion that is irrelevant and assumes completely wrong fax.
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you know, they are just talking. i think it is by design something that is hard for smith to take up. if he doesn't give her what she wants as she enters an order that the end might eventuate an appeal. i think it is not easy right now to grab onto something the 11th circuit can say you messed up again. you are out. >> i want to go back to the hush money case. you talk about election interference, you didn't use those exact words, but how important is the vernacular around this? i was talking with another journalist about this yesterday, the fact that it is called the hush money case. but the reality is why was it a hush money case? well to not put this information out there prior to the election. election interference. do you think attorneys and the
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judge are looking at that particular case under the guise of election interference? >> attorneys and judges, no. i think they're looking at the evidence in front of them and want to win their case. trump, team trump, the republican party and the american political system, at least the ones who are most involved, the democrats -- not just the democrats, people who think it is important for this issue to be something voters of all stripes to consider i think are now casting about for another way of getting another sound bite. and my choice and i just stumbled on this morning. we will see if it has legs, voter deception. i think it really is a voter deception case. >> you spoke about $300 million rather than the ballpark $450
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million being due. do you think tish james will cut him some slack? does it make sense that she would do that? >> i think it makes sense to move on parallel tracks. star moving to see assets and keep in the back pocket settlement negotiations. >> short and sweet. thank you both so much. today on the sunday show susan rice talks about why trumps need to pay his bond makes him a national security risk that is today at 6:00 p.m. eastern. a new round of trauma on capitol hill is just beginning. congresswoman matta lien dean joins me to talk about that next. about that next. help protect. alerts that help check. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours. ♪♪ ugh! nope! try my old spice you can use it on your pits, chest, and even, your... toes? [both] oh that's fresh!
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new today congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez doubling down on comment she made on the house floor, saying israel's actions in gaza amounted to an unfolding genocide. >> to meet the threshold of
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intent is a high one, a serious one and that one made lightly. however, when we look at the precipice of what is happening with a forced famine of 1.1 million where even officials within the united states state department has stated themselves plainly the israeli government and leaders in the israeli government are intentionally denying, locking and slow walking this aid and are precipitating a mass famine. i believe we have crossed the threshold of intent. >> joining me now madeline dean, a member of the house foreign affairs and judiciary committee and a good friend to us. congresswoman, your reactions to your comments and do you agree with the growing call among your fellow democrats that it is time to place additional restrictions on military aid to israel?
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>> good to be with you. the topic is very serious. i am a member of the foreign affairs committee and i have had the chance to travel to israel twice during this war. first on november 11 we met with the prime minister and defense minister who happens to be traveling to the united states now about the prosecution of this war. i was there three or four weeks ago where we met with u.n. officials about the reminder of the horror that took place for israel. we visited the sites, just absolute horror. across the defense line what we know is the starvation, the deprivation and destruction of gaza. i have called for a bilateral cease-fire. what is going on in gaza is simply unacceptable.
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it is beyond what is appropriate in terms of the prosecution of this war against hamas. after all it is hamas who is the enemy here. we must be sure that the prosecution of the war is fair and just. with 32,000 people dead in gaza, i do not find it there and just. i am deeply concerned about what alexandria, the representative said about aid to gaza and trucks getting in. we met directly with officials who are doing heroic work, absolutely god's work. many people would never stay there. we met with the director in rafah and he said we need 500 trucks a day. he sat on a good day we are getting only 150. by the time we with him he had three days with no trucks. israel has to do much more to get all the aid into gaza to stop the deprivation and the destruction and do what internet yahoo told us in november, the more precise in
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your targeting. he says they have superior military and the ability to do that. in the meantime i am calling for a bilateral cease-fire for the important purpose of hostages and humanitarian aid. >> well said. let's move to moscow, that deadly attack at a concert hall. republicans are saying this morning isis-k who the uss was behind the attack was unable if the u.s. withdrawal with afghanistan. take a look. >> isis-k is largely the afghan wing of isis. it has reconstituted itself as we warned what happened. one of the reasons we did not want to would drop precipitously is because it gave them operating space to reorganize and plan externally. >> is sort of like we're going back to the old playbook where history repeats itself. that is why the fall of afghanistan, the way we left it
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with no isr capability puts us in danger where this is a new training ground for isis. >> what is your response? is there a reason to be concerned about more attacks? >> certainly. i think that was a grievous attack on russia. what i would like to say is to remind our republican members the united states told russia, we had a duty to warn russia when our intelligence show the risk. we did just that, even though russia is at war, an illegal war against ukraine. i think it is rather fascinating the two republicans talk about the withdrawal of afghanistan to somehow blame the biden administration for the attack in russia by isis. the withdrawal from afghanistan was put into place by the former president. in fact minutes before
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president biden took office he withdrew more and more troops in afghanistan. that kind of argument is so simple and simplistic. instead what we should say is isis terror is a serious problem and we have to meet it with seriousness. >> let's move to the republican what we witnessed following the passage of the government funding bill that averted a possible shutdown. after the vote marjorie taylor greene to the first step trying to oust speaker johnson. first of all what do you make of the chaos? would you vote to say johnson? >> you know what i wish? i literally walked off the floor from apple mac and was asked about the motion to vacate. what i wish i was asked about was what do we do? we funded the government, many months late but funding at the levels that reflect democratic values and therefore earned democratic votes. republicans are inept and unable to get funding across. they wanted a 22% cut across the board.
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think of what that would do for national security. think of what that would do at the border. what did democrats get across? we got across more money for the border for more border patrol agents. $20 million more for fentanyl detection and agents supervising just that critically important work where fentanyl is coming across our ports of entry and killing our young people. i wish instead of when i came off the floor being asked about this stunt that was set up by republicans on their own. they made it one person who could put in a motion to vacate. mrs. green is is not a serious legislator. chaos is what she likes. attention is what she likes. i like talking to serious legislators about the things that we have an obligation to do like protect our children, increase rights for women. there is so much to be done and i wish the media would pay less attention to the chaos caucus.
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on the campaign trail
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president biden is seeing a boost in his bank account that is not yet translating to the polls. the campaign is raking in millions to build one of the largest war chests in recent history. his gop competitor sees much more moderate winds in the bank. despite the massive funds still finds himself that connect with tropical polls of key swing states. joining us now a really good friend of the hill. amy, here we go first. i want your thoughts on the shutdown we briefly went into yesterday. nancy pelosi was critical of the deal last hour with jen psaki. take a listen to what she said. >> what is important to us as a nation should be reflecting how we allocate our resources. there budget conference committee or whatever they call it, they have now taken away
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the $35 insulin reduced from 500-$600, reducing affordable care, the list goes on and on. why? to get tax breaks to their biggest and richest and biggest operations in america. >> listening to nancy pelosi why do you think biden signed onto this deal is and make cuts to his biggest initiatives? >> i think because he has to toe the line. we are in an election year. he knows what's at stake. he came in as someone who would negotiate and bring both sides together. he knows these are things that people will be looking at when he talks about trying to unite everyone, trying to work across party lines. i think it's one of the main reasons. of course all of this will be on the ballot and interesting to see how voters take this and
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whether they do support this in several months or not. >> i feel like he's got to keep that rolling stones song you can always get what you want front and center. you recently talked to a democratic bundler who argued by the significant funding angela trump will not make much of a difference on the campaign trail. what did they tell you? >> this bundler essentially told me, alex, i am so glad we have more money than they do, but he looked at 2016. a race that we were all watching very closely. it is more of an apples to apples comparison. 2020 was a pandemic year. he goes back to 2016 zaslow, hillary clinton outspent donald trump by a lot, particularly at the very end and it didn't matter. money obviously helps these campaigns. i know the biden campaign is looking forward to using this
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money in terms of ground game. they're funneling money into state operations, key states that they need desperately to win. there glad obviously that they have this money. donald trump is very good at marketing. he will be at the center of all of these trials in the coming months. he's going to use that to his advantage with a lot of people. democrats are very much aware of his strengths for good or bad. >> you also know biden has had a lot of success in office. he has passed a massive bipartisan infrastructure bill. he has made historic investments in climate change. he has lower drug costs, and also pass bipartisan gun safety legislation. yet, amy, new cnn polls but by the neck to neck in key swing states, particularly michigan and pennsylvania. why don't these wins translate at the polls? >> i think a lot of it comes down to him.
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he is going to have to get out there and explain. there are still people who talk to me every day. people who are not beltway types like you and me, who don't look at the polls or anything. they still don't think he has accomplished much. he has to explain that to the american people, particularly these people in these 5-7 swing states that matter. i think a lot of people are still waiting to hear how far we have come and also elections are about the future. he cannot just talk about what he's accomplished. he's going to have to talk about what is next and what he wants to do next and how this translates to electing him or re-electing him again. i think he needs to keep talking about that. obviously he has to make the case to a lot of people and he has a lot of work to do. if we have thursday where he is
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appearing in new york alongside president obama, clinton, as well as a list celebrities for a first of its kind fundraiser. this event set to take place at radio city music hall. it is expected to rake in at least $10 million. so who is the campaign trying to reach? do you think this is the kind of thing that will make headway with young voters? >> i do think it could help, they will have to do a lot more. i do think sarah gets can help one particular person like taylor swift. i think they're expecting her to come in at some point and speak to younger voters. i do think sarah gets it helped a little bit. ultimately it falls on the president to make the case for these younger voters and people who do feel they are not speaking to them. >> i think it is a collective effort for sure. amy, thank you so much. is should be getting shorter that it is getting longer. what is up with donald trump's list of vice presidential contenders?
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straw. he is right there. any horizon of holding spring in the future? have you.>> reporter: alex, i think we keep pulling the short straw every week with this weather. you are talking the back end, this is the front end of more snow here in the twin cities. it's not just contained here in minneapolis, we are talking across the plains. a good amount of snow on the way and study potentially through tuesday. these conditions have the potential to become dangerous from colorado over to minnesota. we are talking some areas seeing two inches every hour. that combined with 60-mile-per- hour wind could mean wideout and blizzard conditions. that is something to keep an eye mac out for -- eye out for. new england and parts of new york state got more than two feet over the weekend. further south in philadelphia
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they saw more than three inches yesterday alone. the national weather service says that is a single director for the month of march. all of this playing out as we are looking at more snowfall falling steadily here in the twin cities. further south there is a potential for severe weather. all kinds of weather across the country. a brutal first weekend of spring. >> sorry about you pulling the short straw, but you did it well. what senator marco rubio stands today compared to 2016, what a difference eight years makes. years makes.
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the trump vice president states heating up with a key pace joining the short list. marco rubio reiterating today he will be honored if he was chosen to join the ticket.
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>> i am in the senate because i want to serve the country. i think the country and the world was a better place when he was president and i would love to see him return to the white house in comparison to the guy that is there now. >> joined me now is john calloway founder of the national voter protection action fund. republican strategists and florida congressman david jolly and part of my sunday family, good to welcome you all. look, in the past there has been no shortage of blood -- bad blood. let's all take a walk down memory lane. >> little marco, you know little marco. >> he's always calling me little marco. >> we have an artist as the front runner of the republican
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party. this guy bankrupted a casino. how do you bankrupt the casino? >> what a difference eight years makes. david, are you surprised marco rubio is now so eager to join the trump train after all of that? >> not surprised by marco, a little surprised by trump. in the spring of 16 the two republicans working the hardest to take down donald trump was marco rubio and his number one surrogate nikki haley. they were giving vicious speeches. here's what i will tell you and here's why i am glad he's on the list. he's probably the first person i've heard this on the list that i believe is qualifies substantively to be vice president of the united states. certainly he has pulled a few lindsey graham's. all of those questions remain.
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in terms of someone who can step into the shoes of the presidency should something happen to donald trump, marco rubio is qualified. you cannot say that about some of the others that apparently are on the list. >> can i just remind folks wasn't mike pence someone you would make that description of and look at those four years. >> i am not suggesting that he could change donald trump. in terms of the future of the country i would take marco rubio. >> do you see him as a real contender? >> i absolutely do not. it reminds me after trump was elected in 2016, he made a whole to do about taking mitt romney out for dinner and all the talk that he was up for secretary of state and then it was like see you, don't have time for you. it was just to embarrass him. i have a feeling that is kind of what is going on with marco rubio. i don't think there is a
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chance. mostly also because of what david said. he does have certain qualifications and that is probably a turnoff to trump. >> interesting. in this picture how do you interpret the potential vice president list? you would think the campaigns are dwindling down by now and not adding names? >> i don't see why they would start now as a tactic. if you think or excuse me, you make these folks think they have a chance they are more likely to continue beating the train for you, more likely to continue justifying why you should be president. each of these folks has a constituency of some sort. why don't i keep them all on board is unpaid, a respected advocates for me and i can just ride their goodwill to the extent that they have any type of influence on the party and they are all saying good things about me, which my campaign can capture and publish as we see
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fit. as a campaign tactic let them dried out. anyone of them would take the job and anyone of them are going to continue to say all the good things about donald trump in total ignorance and ignoring the things he's done to this country until the final call is made. drag it out and you have a bunch of surrogates at your service. >> that is a good call and i would have to agree with you. let's move to congress now, which just wrapped up a tumultuous funding bill with that $1.2 trillion bill president biden five yesterday. that whole process was a little hectic. the new york times calling that deal a bad boss for the far right now seeking revenge, david. what could that look like? >> anytime governing prevails the far right loses. that is essentially what happens. we did the marjorie taylor greene filed a motion to vacate the chair.
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she said it is not privileged and does not have to be triggered immediately. it is clear mike johnson will not be speaker next congress if republicans hold the house and only hold it by a similar margin. i don't think this will be about the opposing of mike johnson between now and december. there are not things left that he has to pitch went on. i think you will see the group saying you don't have our votes in the next congress shall republicans keep control. hakeem jeffries maybe the next speaker. if republicans keep control i think that is where you see them prevent mike johnson from coming back. >> susan, do you see it as an empty threat or do you think the funding bill gave her the kind of fuel that she needs to push mike johnson out? >> i think against her the fuel that she wanted to own the media cycle for the next week or so, maybe even longer after the two-week break. let's not forget they passed
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the budget and immediately after she puts the motion to vacate there is no one left in town. she owned the media cycle. i think she played it for publicity and guided. >> okay. let's move on to the latest on the issue of reproductive rights. you have donald trump making headlines for suggesting a national 15 week abortion ban. how much of this my rally democrats? >> it is going to rally democrats. not that they didn't know where brings new people into the fold, but it is certainly a reminder. dobbs was two or three years ago. it is important to continue to refresh that suburban women constituencies conscience. this is the real danger. politics is a marathon. a presidential race is effectively a marathon.
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it takes a long time to keep attention, a long time and a lot of resources to keep people's attention. trump saying stuff like this ultimately doesn't energize new democrats, but does remind people what is at stake. it reminds them without the dnc having to pour a bunch of money on it because the media continues to cover the crazy things that he says on abortion, ramadi women of the time they did not have bodily autonomy rights. >> welfare. as always thank you so much. i hope to see you next sunday. i do know it is easter. take it up with the bookers. thank you guys. thank you guys. in moments, what to make up vladimir putin and his spin about who was behind friday's terrorist attack. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in

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