>> that does it for me today but we have some exciting guests joining us tomorrow night including senator al franken. join us tomorrow night and if you are around later today, don't miss the sunday show with jonathan capehart. he will interview former national security advisor, susan rice. for now, stay right where you are because there is much more news coming up on msnbc. on this new hour of ayman, former president trump embracing the attack he triggered, hopefully thinking rewriting history will help you win again. what happens if texas

decides to enforce its new immigration law in defiance of the feds, the court, and advocates? let's do it. with the general election underway, what is shaping up to be donald trump scored 2024 campaign messages becoming clearer. the disgraced ex-president has gone all in on his desperate attempt to overturn the 2020 election, and the violent, deadly siege on our nation's capital that he triggered. it is not a shocker to us now, but it is worth remembering how much the ex-president's view on january 6 has evolved. take a look here on what trump said the day after that attack

compared to what he told his supporters recently. >> the heinous attack on the united states capital, like all americans, i am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. >> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly and unfairly treated january 6 hostages. >> the demonstrators who infiltrated the capital have defiled the seat of american democracy. >> can you see the spirit from the hostages and that is what they are as hostages. >> america is and must always be a nation of law and order. >> they've been treated terribly and very unfairly and you know that and everybody knows that. >> to those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not

represent our country, and to those who broke the law, you will pay. >> they were unbelievable patriots and are. you see the spirit, this cheering, they're cheering how they are doing that and they did that in prison and it's a disgrace in my opinion. >> and, as you heard there and as the washington post lays out, any new analysis trump has increasingly used the word hostages to refer to the january 6 defendant symbol, it is very calculated. by refer to these defendants as hostages, trump is shifting the blame away from his own role in the january 6 attack to the government. remember, he is currently facing his own federal enticement over 2020 federal subversion efforts but unlike the almost 1000 people who have been convicted in the 500 who have already been sentenced to prison, trump has received nothing short of preferential treatment from our justice system despite what the former president wants his supporters to believe.

he is not a political prisoner. while the january 6 writers sing their national anthem from their prison cells, their fearless leader is continuing to delay any attempt to bring him to justice, but he is not just stalling. right now, donald trump is busy laying the groundwork for the next january 6, as we covered on the show. the former president and his allies have already installed election deniers to top positions in the republican national committee. it is a move that further institutionalizes the very lies that spurred the violence at the capital in the first place. meanwhile, trump is proactively warning the 2024 election will be stolen. he has been debuting in new slogan that rallies across the country, urging his supporters to give him a league that is quote, too big to rig. it is becoming increasingly clear that january 6 is not a threat left in the past or in our history. as long as donald trump i is the white house, his election will present a clear and present danger to our very democracy. kicking us off at this hour,

congressman joe walsh and chuck rocha, founder of solidarity strategies. joe, i will start with you. what do you make of how trump's language has shifted? why do you believe he has decided to embrace the insurrection so publicly and forcibly as his re-election strategy? >> ayman, i loved everything you said and it was interesting that trump is trying to separate himself from the people who rioted on january 6, but i think the truth is even scarier. trump is reflecting what the base believes. trump and the republican party base, ayman, they feed off of each other. i come from that base. you know that, right? and i still engage with these folks every day and i'm telling you, they believe january 6th now three years later. they believed it was a good day. they believe it was a patriotic day. they believe these january 6 insurrectionist are patriots

and hostages. trump is reflecting where the base is. that is even scarier. >> chuck, trump has tried to draw this connection, if you will, between the prosecution of these writers and what he views as this witchhunt against him, but as i mentioned, he has been able to delay his accountability for himself so far. do these people sitting in prison cells honestly believe that this ex-president is one of them? >> they do, and it is still a good point that walsh said. they will follow him no matter what, and this is an electoral strategy we should all be made aware of. you know that i still run campaigns every day, and when you run a campaign, you have to figure out where is enough votes to win an election? the same people that show up at

the last election show up at this election, he loses and he's lost even more support with suburban women in places like pennsylvania, minnesota, wisconsin, and now, what he is doing is very intentional about using this to the base to try to get new people. he's got to have new people, and in my opinion, new crazy people who will come in and listen to this rhetoric and get them to vote or he has no path to the election. that is why i think this is a very calculated communication strategy he is running. >> how much do you think this focus on january 6 is actually preparing trump supporters for the possibility that the ex- president will lose, may fail to secure enough votes come election day, and january 6 was simply a dry run? it happened very quickly, maybe in the course of a couple weeks. now, he has a much longer lead to prepare the space of his for a hostile takeover. >> let's just say the truth, no matter how ugly it is. donald trump wanted january 62 happen.

let's be clear about it. he was not indifferent toward it when it happened. he was gleeful. trump purposely wanted there to be violence. i mean, not just your audience, ayman, but the american people need to wrap their arms around that. when donald trump would say months before the 2020 election and that the only way i can lose is if it will be stolen, that is a direct call to his supporters that if he loses, you need to get violent. you rightly pointed out, he is doing the same thing now. months before the election, he is telling his voters it will be stolen, that is the only way i can lose. he wants there to be violence, period. >> to that point, how afraid should we be? how terrifying is it for our democracy that trump is doing this, planning out so in the

open? >> i think it shows the desperation, and the desperation to win. i hear it all across the country with focus groups talking to regular persuadable voters who want to have a debate about the best way to get to economic prosperity. this is off to the side. people are worried because what they want as they want prosperity and a party and a person who can help them get there. donald trump wants to deflect and he wants to deflect to where he can go to his base and talk about this red meat and destroy our democracy and that is what he is hanging his hat on. >> let me play for you former justice stephen breyer and meet the press earlier today and his impressions of the attack upon the capital. >> on january 6, the biggest picture is, to me, that i tell myself, don't go near these issues. >> was it a tough day for you? >> there were many advantages

and privileges when i was a member of the supreme court of the united states, and there are a few disadvantages in one of those disadvantages is don't sound off on things that are relevant, it might become cases, et cetera. >> so, i think there is a big contrast here and some of these justices on the supreme court. on one hand, you have stephen breyer talking about practicing restraint as of then sitting justice. my question is where is that same level of restraint from someone like clarence thomas? >> great point and before i get to that, i need to disagree with my friend, check.

i don't think this is a move of desperation by trump at all. leaning, he is leaning into january 6. i don't think it's a move of desperation. i think he knows that most of the country is tired of talking about january 6. he knows that biden is going to rightly hit him for attacking our democracy. he's trying to block that in his going to lean into january 6 and he's going to lean into the violence because let's be real, this election is going to be decided by a handful of people in a few states. he knows that. is going to lean into this thing. this is not desperation. >> okay, fair enough, and what did you think of clarence thomas not following suit and constraining himself the way stephen breyer did? >> look, i believe in a conservative court but i don't believe in an activist court. this is an activist court. clarence thomas is not just a conservative justice, he is an

activist. there should be no place for that on the court and he should've restrained and excused himself. >> chuck, what is your reaction to the former justice's comment as our democracy hangs in the balance? >> our democracy is just as strong as our belief in our democracy. and when people, regular voters i talked to all the time, see what the court does, especially clarence thomas and what his wife has been accused of and to the point about there being an activist judge, folks don't like that. this thing used to be a solemn place which is literally 10 blocks from my house. i can walk down to the supreme court and this place is beautiful. we should honor and respect that place and it should never have anything to do with politics. it should always be about justice and what they are doing is slowly trying to tear down those pillars and it is disgusting what we've seen happen to our court over the last few years. >> chuck and joe, please stick around. we have a lot left. stay with us.

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>> so, what does real accountability look like? does it look like impeaching joe biden in the house?

tabling it like they're going to do with the merrick garland impeaching or does it remain providing real criminal referrals to the department of justice? i think the best path to accountability is criminal referrals. >> that was james comer finally admitting what we have always known to be true. his baseless impeachment probe into president biden is in fact baseless and republicans don't have the votes. last week, lev parnas drove another nail in that coffin when he appeared as a witness for the democrats. the last person charged with jegging up -- digging up dirt on joe biden said there were no evidence against biden's. here's what pinus said on the weekend.

>> all of this to make it simplified is all about donald trump. it's all about re-electing him in 2024 again. that is what is going on in ukraine. the reason all of them are supporting russia is because russia has done everything possible to interfere in our elections to get donald trump into office again. >> joe and chuck are with me. i guess it took, long enough to see what the reality of the situation is about. do you think we are seeing the end of the sham impeachment inquiry or are they going to push through till november? >> no, i think we are seeing the end of the biden impeachment. there was never anything there from the beginning. republicans promised us they would do this if we gave them control of the house. they said they would impeach biden and they would impeach mayorkas and go after every democrat they could go after, and they have made good on that promise. they have created a year and a half of utter chaos, but there is nothing there. this was all meant to be retribution for how they

believe donald trump was treated, and they fed this to their base. fox news fed this to their audience every night, and their audience will always believe there was something impeachable there. >> yeah, you bring up fox news. what has their role been in all of this? >> well, they have been the cheerleaders, and they have been the instigators. you raise a really great point, like they all feed off of each other. sean hannity knew this was bs from the beginning. sean hannity lied to his audience every single night, that there was something impeachable there. the whole point was to get his audience absolutely inflamed, and they did that because now, most of the republican party base believes that biden deserved to be impeached. >> even before wednesday's hearing, you had gop officials

indicating they think the impeachment inquiry is falling apart, political reporting that behind the scenes, republicans are saying the whole impeachment mission has been quote, hobbled by embarrassing setbacks. is this going to be a stain for republicans? are they going to be able to ignore it and keep doing what they're doing is if none of this mattered for their credibility, for what they promised from day one of taking control of the house? >> they don't care one iota about their credibility. now, what they do care about is giving some red meat to their base so they can raise money and send out emails and text messages saying we are holding these welcome liberals in countable. we are impeaching joe biden. we are impeaching mr. mayorkas. back to your fox news question. a lot of this is about raising money for the midterm elections coming up and unlike all the other races that we talked about, these are individual based races. you can talk about the base of this in the base of that but this is going to come to a handful of states currently held by republican, over 20 of

them that joe biden wants. these other races where they need to stop talking about the impeachment because it was hurting their incumbent. plus, they had no basis for this, of course, but now it is getting close to election time. this is the reason they are really doing this, because it is hurting them politically. >> we have come are saying political referrals are the best way to hold biden accountable. he knows that's not going to go anywhere but what those referrals to the doj have anything other than symbolism for republicans? >> probably just symbolism. the only other thing i think you could use them for is a consultant in certain races, you could say we've done this and giving these charges to a

certain department in this big brouhaha about nothing but to the average voter out there trying to work two or three jobs he does not understand the inner workings of our government every day, it does look like something in fox news is really good at this and folks who don't have time to actually do all the research can get in by some of that sometimes. >> i think about it kind of the way i see marjorie taylor greene and a few others, lauren boberg, signing against the funding bill or voting against the funding bill that brings money into their districts than kind of showing up for the photo op when there's a project happening in their district for the money that they voted against. you've got republicans knowing this is not going to go anywhere but they have a sheet of paper saying hey, we sent a referral to the doj coming back to their districts to run on. >> it is they spread disinformation and lie to their voters, just like hannity lies to his audience. they will never know the truth about the fact that there was nothing there when it comes to biden's impeachment. they believe marjorie taylor greene and the rest of them believe that their base will believe that they were

responsible for this money coming back home, even though they voted against it. they lie to their voters and they lie to their audience every single day and night, and sadly, they get away with it and they've learned from trump because trump has made a career out of that. >> what do you make out of lev parnas' testimony and the part about this is all about russia getting trump back into the white house. >> i think we've all known this. anyone of us who has been around politics for two seconds know it would be good for russia if donald trump was president. anybody who knows anything about what is going on can see that and i think he threw cold water on a lot of things in congress were there trying to make something bigger than what it really is, but there is no doubt. that is why you see the ukraine funding in the house for you have democrats who literally may save a republican speaker just so they can get money to fight the russians through

ukraine. >> so, lev parnas has push things along even further, saying that the lies about joe biden are just that. there also part of this bigger plan we are discussing for russia to defeat ukraine by infiltrating the united states. when you see how republicans now are so anti-ukraine, some threatening to vacate the speaker mike johnson if he even brings a ukraine bill on the floor to a vote, what you make of that? >> tucker carlson. tucker carlson speaks for the republican party base. tucker carlson goes over to moscow and says it's the most beautiful city in the world, look at the shopping carts. donald trump has promised that he will get rid of nato if he gets re-elected. chuck is right. putin wants trump to win. the base of the republican party wants an authoritarian in the white house.

that is what we are fighting against. >> what do you think, chuck, on that front? >> i think you see it time and again and i would ask everybody to watch their social media feeds as we lead into the election because it is really getting easier and easier for these companies and foreign governments to have the shadow operations that are influencing people, even making democrats fight amongst ourselves, so this is an election for everybody to stay tuned to what you are watching is a fact been a factor not just propaganda coming from another country or third-party entity. >> you make a good point. with russia using immigration now as this issue and pumping it into our social media, are you concerned about them exploiting these types of issues in this country -- i don't even need to finish the

question. go ahead. >> it made me think about what we talked about on this program a few years ago when they used black lives matter in the same way. they pitted us against each other. now, they are doing it with hordes of latinos like me and my family who came to this country and trying to put latinos against latinos, democrats against democrats. the immigration system has been broken in this country for a long time and they are trying to take unfair advantage of it to so fear and hatred even amongst fellow democrats. >> this is a scary time for what is going to happen and now with the power of ai, it can be amplified much more than social media users. thank you both very much. next up, a vital question. is the aid we are sending to those hurting and starving in gaza actually helping? and star gaza actually helping? see your tax refund go further with buy one get one free at visionworks. see the difference.

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this is a six-year-old boy from northern gaza who suffers from cystic fibrosis and before the war he was able to take medicine and eat balanced meals to treat it, but today he is severely malnourished and dehydrated. his mother says he is on the cusp of death. yesterday after an outpouring of support on social media, the world health organization and red crescent were actually able to carry out a life-saving mission. he was evacuated from the hospital in gaza to the southern parts of he can receive treatment outside of gaza. it is heartening that humanitarian workers were able to help. but, every single person in gaza is experiencing acute food insecurity. they are scouring for food, waiting in enormous food lines and skipping multiple meals day after day. according to a new report from the integrated food security phase classification, famine is imminent in northern gaza. it is expected to happen anytime between now and may, and the rest of the gaza strip is not far behind. more than 1 million people,

half of all gazans are experiencing catastrophic hunger and the report projects that salmon -- famine could occur by july. earlier today, unicef spokesperson james elder join me from gaza to speak about what this means for people of the strip and what he is seeing firsthand on the ground. thank you so much for being with us this evening. earlier this week, you travel the length of gaza. describe for us what you witnessed, what the people of gaza are living through right now, and what gaza looks like and feels like on this trip for you? >> i mean, it looks like nothing i've ever seen. it certainly looks like nothing a family should ever be enduring. when you stop it rafah, you have families living on the beach intense, hard to move around . there is a

annihilation. i've not seen that level of devastation to a city in my 20 years with the united nations than to the north where we have this imminent famine as we have been told, entirely man-made, predictable, entirely preventable and you see families, uc children, you see parents doing that universal sign of hand to mouth showing hunger, then i go to a hospital in the north and grandmothers care as mothers, hunched over children, quite often in tears. they've done everything they can and they are looking at a paperthin child, and yet, aid is 20 or 30 miles away. it is obscene. it is getting worse, as you might be able to hear. >> james, one focus right now has obviously been on the issue is famine. you mentioned the ipc report released earlier this week. famine is imminent in gaza, the rest of the strip not far behind, 1 million people some experiencing food insecurity.

can you tell us what that is, what are people finding to eat? what are people actually surviving on day today? >> well, in the north, where this is the worst because they have received a fraction of the aid, and that is due to the instructions put on we've just seen in the last couple of hours, on the backbone of humanitarian aid in the gaza strip being told they can no longer deliver food to the north so when i talk to families it is often just a complete lack. it might be beans, it is canned food, but it's one canaday. it is sharing amongst families. never forget of course that so many families had homes destroyed. and they are sharing their food. they'll share their last piece of stale bread, so it is stale food, unclean water. this is this dangerous nexus between imminent famine and disease, so it is a grave lack of food. it is a lot of canned food, not a lot of nutrition and a severe

shortage but again, anyone who has got food is sharing food. no one, unfortunately, has enough food. >> based what you and other u.n. aid organizations are seeing on the ground, why is aid not getting to these people? why is food in such scarcity for the people of gaza six months into this war despite what israeli officials are telling the world, that aid is getting in, hundreds of trucks are getting in and it is not their fault that this food is not making it to the people of gaza? >> it's a great question. as the secretary general of the u.n. has said and many others, certainly those on the ground who deal with the daily obstructions, it takes five days to get clearances then they get blocked. we have to be clear that the occupying power, israel, has a legal responsibility to facilitate aid. by the fraction of aid trucks

allowed in, the hundred still on the egyptian side, this is not enough aid as needed. there are multiple entry points, crossings where we could bring these trucks in. bringing them into the north would be a game changer because that is where most of the need is. they are not open, so they'll come through the south. that is a difficult journey. it does not need to be that way. now, that is side-by-side, of course, the idea that aid workers get killed in this conflict. this is a remarkably unsafe place to be for everyone. recipients, people who definitely need aid get killed. warehouses with food get bombed. these things together make this one of the most difficult places to deliver aid we have seen in living memory. >> i wanted to ask you about something that has happened here in the u.s., and that was the government spending bill barring funding. as somebody who is working on the ground, someone who is

working closely with other organizations, what is your message to u.s. officials about the consequences of that decision, and what it will mean for palestinians? >> well, the collective united nations message, because we are very unified on this, is that unra is the backbone because they have the staffing and capacity. it is absolutely essential for the delivery of aid. other agencies, we do everything we possibly can and it is no small amount but you can all step into that void. unra must be able to do that. what we are dealing with now is the humanitarian crisis in

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and went on to say that the law would separate families, violate the human rights of migrants and cause a hostile environment for mexicans living in texas. as before was supposed to take effect last monday but was met with legal challenges as soon as it was signed into law. from the biden administration and rights groups who claim the state law is unconstitutional because it interferes with federal immigration law. the legal director of the aclu in texas said in a statement that the bill quote, overrides federal constitutional principles while harming texas in brown and black communities. this is been compared to arizona's sb 10, dubbed the show me your papers law from 2010. the law empowered police and sheriff agencies to investigate and detain anyone suspected. again, emphasis on suspected of being in the country illegally. the law caused widespread fear among immigrants in the state. some are even afraid to leave their homes or driver under communities.

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before the break, we address the dangerous implications of a new immigration law in texas known as sb four. the federal appeals court blocked it from taking effect last week and a half hours after the supreme court reversed its hold. joining us now is andrea florez, vice president for immigration policy and campaigns at for u.s. she once served as an adviser to the biden administration. this law is still being held up in the courts, but what do you fear would take shape in texas

if it is allowed to go into effect and what kind of applications with this have for other states that want to follow suit? >> this would have incredibly harmful implications for really every texas resident because you have to remember there are half 1 million undocumented immigrants already living in texas right now. they are part of the community of texas and they've been part of the economy for a very long time so first and foremost, it would cause intense harm to people already living there but there is an important part many people have not focused on, which is that this would cause immense harm also to u.s. citizens. arizona tried this in 2010. it unleashed rasul profiling and an entirely new way and redirected law enforcement to instead of focusing on public safety, start checking the

papers of black and brown people in arizona at the time and we saw what impact that had on communities. arizona experienced huge economic fallout from that law going into effect and so texas, one of the most -- biggest economies in the country with one of the most diverse populations in the country, imagine the police department been refocused to ask every citizen if they have citizenship status. this is all about disrupting the federal government's ability to regulate immigration, but even more so, it is about causing intense harm to really diverse communities in texas were simply living and working in part of the fabric of that state. it is really a fear mongering tactic. >> i want to ask you about that kind of de facto racial profiling that will emerge here for a moment, and the danger it

poses to latinos in texas. we don't walk around in this country with immigration paperwork or passports or naturalization documents. this is a state where latinos make up the majority of the populations and where families are already on edge due to uncertainty about the law, not to mention the rise of white supremacy and the violence against that community but ultimately, what kind of two- tiered system with this create in the type of racial profiling it would bring into the mix? >> this would make texas a dangerous place for anyone who was black or brown. i am mexican-american. i grew up going into texas pretty much every weekend if you can imagine that you are mexican-american on the border right now, you're not going to feel safe in texas because you're going to have to prove in you risk being detained and even worse, you risk actually being deported and it is putting a strange responsibility in the hands of state judges to decide who is going back to mexico. now, another part about this law

that the media has lost sight of is the fact that mexico itself has to agree to take back deportations and should only be negotiating that currently with the biden administration and instead, texas is saying we are going to go above that current resume and send back people who may not even be mexican nationals back to mexico. that is a huge amount of chaos, so any latino in this country, if this law went into effect, i would probably advise them not to even go into texas at that point, and given the tremendous presence latinos have in our economy, for texas to say it's not safe for you to be here and be part of this community or risk deportation to another country that you may have no ties to, that is an enormously troubling decision in the

supreme court never should've even given an option for this to be enacted and hopefully the fifth circuit will put an end to it for good. >> yes, and there was this brief window before it was allowed to go into effect before the appeals court ruled against it in man, there was a lot of confusion about how to actually enforce the law. they were unprepared, unable or just uninterested to enforce it. give us that perspective, from the local law enforcement perspective of can they even enforce it? >> in the supreme court, this action created an intense amount of confusion. this is settled back in 2012. the supreme court said only the federal government can regulate immigration law so you are seeing people coming out from the san antonio police department, austin police department, el paso county saying we really have no intention of redirecting public safety resources to start asking every latino resident of texas if they are undocumented or not, so you are seeing already disarray from this law even being talked about going

into effect, and many texas communities have no idea how to navigate it, and imagine just the human impact on the ground. can you go out and leave your house if this law goes into effect? can you go to the hospital? can you report a crime or will you be forced to show your citizenship status and every one of those scenarios, so it is really calling into question who is american and who gets to be a resident of texas and once again, it is not about the border. it is about the fact that they want to police immigration on a local level and take it out of the hands of the federal government. >> really christian -- quickly, secretary mayorkas is called sb 4 unconstitutional. you worked at the biden administration. do you think that administration has the tools it needs to actually prevent this were to fight this while we wait to see what happens in the court? anything they can do to prevent it from moving forward? >> sure, the first thing they can do is take steps to bring more security to that. i mentioned at the top the half 1 million currently

undocumented people living and working in texas. they are incredibly vulnerable and when we say undocumented, we're talking about people who have work authorization or temporary status and the reason i mentioned that is that the biden administration is not taking action to provide further relief for the longtime undocumented communities. this is an election year. many of those communities whether they are married to a u.s. citizen, maybe they have a u.s. citizens child, they have been waiting for the biden administration to deliver more relief so they have tools right now they can use. they can use tools like temporarily protected status, parole authority, they can use these mechanisms to bring people more security and they need to right now because states are going on the offensive in using the border to try and make their own immigrant communities secure. >> you, and they need to do it because it is the right thing to do. thank you so much for

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