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♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. donald trump got two major legal decisions today. one, there is now a trial date for the hush money case, and two, some leniency from a new york appellate court on its half a million dollar bond. on hush money, judge juan merchan ruled he saw no reason to further delay, scheduling the stormy daniels trial for april 15th. what will it take to seat a jury? what kind of juror will each side be looking for, and what bragg will need to do to convince those jurors that paying off stormy daniel was
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actually a felony. we'll get to all of that in a moment. but first we want to start with the bond. a new york appeals court knocked it down from $450 million and counting to 175 million. donald trump says he will pay it quickly within the ten-day extension. but more importantly, what does that decision mean for an appeal of the judgment itself? joining us now, nbc news investigations correspondent tom winter, msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin, former new york assistant attorney general adam pollock, and nbc news business and data correspondent, brian cheung. everybody, welcome. lisa, let's talk about knocking down this bond. it's a really big deal. clearly what donald trump was hoping would happen. >> absolutely what he was hoping would happen, and assuming, katy, that he posts this bond within the next ten days, it will prevent the attorney general from taking any enforcement efforts. i want to make one thing really clear. while we are talking about this as a major victory for the former president, we are still
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talking about posting a bond of $175 million. that's a gargantuan sum by any measure. it's only a small sum and a major victory where we're talking about the former president having a $454 million judgment, and counting against him. >> tom, what do you think of this? >> well, i think we were speaking earlier today. i mean, there's a couple of things that are on the table here. one, it does provide him some wiggle room and time. they said they were not able to get to a point where they could get the bond in the first place. the question becomes, could you get to this. we have looked at the former president's financials, even more recent filings. he does have millions of dollars in what we would call liquid assets, it's 3:02 eastern time. he has 58 minutes to sell stocks, treasuries, these are things he could move and does have access to. we know that from his financial filings, and we have seen consistency with that over the years since he started running back to 2016, but when you go back to that time period, he
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raised an idea today, to our colleague garrett haake that he wants to keep as much cash as possible, pending his run for presidency. you know well from covering him back then, he said, well, i'm going to self-fund his entire candidacy, and that turned out not to be the case, and didn't appear to be the case in 2020, and this election cycle. what does he want to do with that cash? what access does he have? and if he needs to start selling assets, he's selling them into a difficult environment. >> could he potentially raise this money from super pacs and whatnot? the trump legal super pac has paid $50 million so far i think last year alone in legal fees. could he try to campaign, raise this in campaign funds? >> katy, i don't think so. i think that the judgment bond would need to come from his personal assets or from his business assets. it's still a substantial bond to raise, but much more manageable now. $175 million instead of
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$500 million. >> is it easier to get a bond company to put up that sort of money? >> his lawyers went to the appellate court and said we talked to 30 bond companies, and none would bond the appeal. there was a line missing. every one of them would bond the appeal if he had $500 million of liquid assets, apparently he didn't. now i think it's easier. if he comes with $175 million, 30 out of 30 will line up and grant the bond. >> an interesting wrinkle today, brian, is that donald trump's truth social is going public, and he stands to make a lot of money off that. explain it. >> this stems from a setup that was already put in place years ago with a blank check company called digital world acquisition corporation which announced an intention a few years ago to acquire trump's media company which included truth social. there were a number of hiccups, some investigations, which is the reason that's only consummating right now. that could stand to net him about $3 billion in net worth. but here's the thing, tom
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brought up the point of liquidity, right, they have to be liquid assets, and yes, even though he might make about $3 billion in terms of wealth from holding those securities, he cannot sell them instantly because in the agreement with the merger he can't sell them in the six months. >> could he negotiate that, though, within the terms of the merger. he owns so much of it, might he be able to get out of that constraint if he asks? >> yeah, i mean, once the company is officially created and on the stock exchange, there could be movement among the board of directors, but i want to point out, if that does happen, that could open him up to a shareholder lawsuit because let's say, for example, they do change the by laws, he sells and dumps a bunch of stock and the stock price tanks, the shareholders say that wasn't much in the interest of shareholders. it would be his son, in addition to some of his cabinet members,
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like linda mccmahon. >> i know you have thoughts on the truth social stuff and the value. >> i think the value is essentially worthless. this is a company that doesn't make any money, and, sure, they could change the bylaws and the lock up period and go to market and sell a share, two shares, but if they went to market and tried to sell $3 billion, the value of the stock would go to zero. practically immediately. >> let me ask about what this means for the appeal on the judgment itself. was this a blow to the attorney general? she went in, she did calculations. that's how she came up with the $464 million number. judge engoron validated that with his own calculations, what does that mean to have this knocked down to 175. >> and expert witness calculations. it suggests the appellate court is concerned with the size of the judgment, maybe not that there is a judgment but concerned with the size of the judgment and may be previewing
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knocking it down in size. that said, the attorney general's office has the best appellate lawyers in new york city, and i'm confident that they'll put up a fight. >> let me ask you because when we were talking about this initially, it was such a large judgment. it was everything that letitia james wanted and potentially more. because so many of the companies claim that they weren't actually victimized here, they didn't feel any harm, does that make it so that the appeals court might -- would they take that into account. would they say listen, it was bad what he did, he should not have done it, this is not okay in business, but because nobody was hurt financially in terms o. banks, we don't think it should be this high? >> look, i think that factors into any human being's evaluation, judgment. and judges are judges, that's what they're paid to do. that must factor in some degree. he got ill gotten gains, a concept under the law, and
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that's what judge engoron found, and i think that would play into the appellate decision. >> lisa, you and i have been back and forth, what are your thoughts? >> setting the bond at $175 million, that's an indication that at least five judges on the appellate decision believe that the judgment is too large. if not, they would insist on having tish james and her office securitize for the value of what they think the judgment ultimately should be. if an appeals court ultimately sustains that judgment for $454 million and counting because prejudgment interest will continue to accrue, you can see how $175 million in a bond isn't enough to provide tish james with that security. there is an inkling of where this is going in there. that having been said, one of the things that you could criticize the judgment for was sort of taking it on both ends. part of the judgment comes from saying trump got loans at values that wouldn't have been able to anybody else on the market, and at the same time, when he sold certain of the assets for which
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he had gotten the loans, he improperly got profits from them. it may be some judge says, wait a second, you can punish at the front end or back end, but can't punish for both. >> how as the ag reacted to this? >> they put a statement out saying the judgment is still the judgment, and effectively this case goes forward, and obviously they're certainly confident with their case. they're able to win it. as far as the legal analysis of it, and we're looking at the statement you put out there, this whole judgment stands is just an issue of the bond being decreased. that's what she's pointing to. look, this is going to be argued. it's going to be months more. i mean, it's quite possible this won't be decided until about a year from now, perhaps a shorter period of time than that. i'm curious, actually, if trump can pledge his shares without having to sell them. if that's a work around for him, potentially that he could do here, you run the risk if you're the bond company, not for donald trump, but if you're the bond company, running the risk of the
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price of the shares coming down. that is a potential option here that he could do. >> i took a look at the lockup agreement that said he can't sell for six months, and it says you can't donate, contract to sell any of that. it sound like it covers that. >> okay. so we have about a year or so. that's generally how long it takes. there's also the e. jean carroll judgment, the $93 million, which he bonded. a whole lot of money that's hanging over donald trump's head. i want to play a little bit of what donald trump said after the bond reduction was announced and after the hearing ended for the hush money case. let's listen. >> i have a lot of cash. you know i do because you looked at my statements. you have been examining my statements for a long time, and i have much more than that in cash, but i would also like to be able to use some of my cash to get elected. they don't want me to use my cash to get elected. i have a lot of cash and a great company. i mean, to think they want to go
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after a company this is a great company, a company that's doing very well. i have very low debt on buildings, like this building, i have very low debt on this building. most buildings i have no debt. most clubs i have no debt. look at my greatest assets, i have no debt. >> so you heard donald trump there talking about what tom was mentioning that he wants to use it for his campaign. these rallies have been expensive. he has been known to pay for them himself, i'll put that out there. in terms of business, one of the defenses that the trump team keeps putting out there is this is going to hurt business in new york in general. there's not going to be a business that wants to do business here because they'll be afraid of letitia james making up an allegation and holding them accountable and taking their money away. what are they talking about there? >> new york state has a strong, persistent fraud statute. the executive law statute that was used here, but it's used sparingly where warranted and i think the business community in
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new york is very strong, and if they don't do fraud, they aren't going to be worried. >> they keep citing exxon, what was that? >> a big case brought bring the attorney general's office unsuccessfully about environmental change and environmental damage. i think that's a different case, and ultimately exxon prevailed. where warranted fraud could be found and where not, not. >> all right, we're going to leave it here on this subject. i want to talk about hush money and all of that jazz coming up in a second. in a matter of weeks, we will see the first former president to ever stand trial for a crime. what that could look like. plus, what vladimir putin is doing to spin the terror attack in moscow. and what is leading house speaker mike johnson to the brink of a gop revolt. it's happening again. we're back in 90 seconds. e backs n a subway series footlong. except when you add on an all new footlong sidekick. we're talking a $2 footlong churro. $3 footlong pretzel and a five dollar footlong cookie. every epic footlong
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the past few months, trying to get him on script, prompter, the clinton campaign trying to capitalize on this any way they can. they have put out ads using donald trump's words, super imposing them over young girls looking at themselves, and hearing donald trump's voice in their head. he's also had an issue with alicia machado, the former miss universe pageant women, who he says called her a fat big after she gained weight after winning the contest. he went on fox news the day after the clinton campaign, brought this up during the debate, saying she did gain a massive amount of weight and that it was a real problem. this is something the clinton campaign is trying to capitalize on. obviously something that the donald trump campaign does not need at this point. we are 33 days out until the election, and again, it looks as of now, that suburban women could be the deciding vote in this election. >> so that was october 7th,
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2016, you can see how much younger i look, the moment the access hollywood tape broke, donald trump was facing allegations of sexism, inappropriate behavior towards women, allegations he denied. when a tape surfaced of him bragging about grabbing women by that i know genitals it looked like his campaign was over. republican lawmakers backed away en masse, so did senior campaign advisers. it was a deeply precarious moment which puts what happened the very next day on october 7th into interesting context. that is the day michael cohen, donald trump's then lawyer and fixer agreed to pay a porn star $130,000 to keep quiet about an affair she said she had with the gop nominee. eight years later, trump is facing a felony charge that that payment was election interference. with the trial date now set for april 15th. joining us now, nbc news senior correspondent garrett haake and back with us, msnbc legal
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correspondent lisa rubin. so, garrett, we're talking about the weeds, about documents, hearing dates, trial dates, how much time the defense needs. let's put this into the original context. alvin bragg is trying to say the payment made to stormy daniels was actually election interference, and that's why he's trying to prove to a jury that it is a felony. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. ironically on that point, he and donald trump agree. i don't use the same term, the idea of election interference, whether it's the trial or the underlying act as alvin bragg in new york city alleges in this case. 34 counts of business fraud, changing the accounting, the underwriting to account for that money and how it was spent and why it was spent in that fashion as you just laid out in what could have been a politically precarious moment for donald trump's campaign. jurors are going to have six weeks from mid april through perhaps the end of may. i always sort of take the over
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when it comes to trump hearings and legal matters and assume it will take longer than that to parse the relevant details. interestingly enough, they will not see the tape you played. the judge ruled in this case that the tape itself will not be admissible, describing its contents will be. it's hard to imagine anybody in new york city or anybody else in the who is probably not familiar with the story by now. >> you know, you might not remember, lisa, the details around that moment. that's why i played that clip there. even me watching it back today, i forgot a lot of what was happening at that time, the allegations, the alicia machado stuff, the suburban women worries, the moment for the campaign was one of concern that they were not going to win because of their loss among women. so that's why i think what makes the michael cohen payment around that time, the agreement, especially, really interesting. >> it makes it totally interesting and not being able to show the tape while they can describe it i think is actually a big loss for the d.a.'s
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office. having watched the e. jean carroll trials and where the access hollywood tape was played and where donald trump's deposition, where he was confronted with the "access hollywood" tape, and seeing it is one thing, hearing it is another. i don't think hearing it alone will have the same impact as described by an ada as it does when you see the full team. >> what is the background? why is he not allowing that tape to be played. >> i think merchan has decided here, judge juan merchan of the supreme court has decided it would be prejudicial. it's not being shown as proof of intent. it's rather to set context, to show at that moment in time when michael cohen was negotiating with keith davidson, stormy daniels' lawyer, was a meltdown moment. this was a catastrophic time for them. they were concerned about the
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impact of the tape, and when stormy daniels materializes and they have the opportunity to get her to be quiet about her affair with the former president, they take the opportunity and belatedly try and paper it over. the campaign finance crime here is not being charged as such. it's a false business records crime in order to conceal another crime, which is the campaign finance. >> donald trump's defense is likely going to be he didn't know this was going to stormy daniels, correct? >> reporter: yeah, i think that's going to be a big part of it, katy, to distance himself as much as possible. and essentially argue these were nuisance payments. he's a billionaire, he's got money coming and going all the time, and what michael cohen was up to was not necessarily something that he was keeping very close watch on. i think about when michael cohen testified before congress and talked about this idea that donald trump didn't necessarily tell you exactly what to do, but he made it clear what he wanted. the manner in which donald trump ran his business and the way in which he either gave orders or
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made himself clear on issues that were important to him, how he communicated would be central to this case and perhaps to donald trump's defense of kind of what was going on under his nose and whether or not he was aware of it at the time. >> garrett, an april 15th trial start date, do we know how long it's expected to last? >> reporter: katy, write it down, i say take the over, the state has said they think they will take about six weeks. that's the presumption of how long this can go. as we've seen, i was standing on this street corner a year ago waiting for this indictment to occur, this arraignment to happen in this case, everything involved this in this case, and all of the cases with donald trump have taken longer than projected. i would assume it goes, you know, well into may, perhaps even, you know, trails into june. who knows? but i can't imagine it's going to be shorter than advertising. >> seating a jury, i was on with charles coleman a little bit earlier. he said it could take two weeks to seat a jury. what are going to be the issues with trying to get a jury in this case, and are they going to be different than getting a jury
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for the e. jean carroll case. >> i think they will be similar but a little bit different. obviously he's being accused of a crime here, and so that raises the stakes substantially. it also changes the composition of the jury in terms of how many jurors are needed here as opposed to in a civil case. most importantly it's going to be very hotly contested, who can serve on this jury and sort of what the prerequisites are and how you exclude people. one of the things two sides will fight over is what is your media diet and how specific do people have to be about that, and they're fighting over, well, can you ask someone if they watch msnbc and if you do, will you ask them if they watch fox, and what is the equivalent of various media outlets. they really want to try and take out of the equation, anybody who is perceived as being overly partisan. >> could it take two weeks as charles predict snd. >> -- predicted? >> it could take two weeks. the judge has allowed the trump
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side to have their say. he is not like arthur engoron who was relaxed and lenient during the trial of the civil fraud case. we should expect judge merchan is going to run a tighter ship. >> the hearing today was quick, and he shut down trump's lawyers quickly when they asked for more time. he said he saw no reason to delay further. lisa rubin, garrett haake, thank you guys very much. and still ahead, isis k claimed credit, so what is vladimir putin doing blaming ukraine for the attack in moscow? plus, the house passed a bill to avert a government shutdown. so why is speaker mike johnson potentially in danger of losing his job? i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks.
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it was a hard weekend in russia as isis k claimed responsibility for friday's terror attack at a russian concert hall, killing at least 137 people. today russian authorities said they found the men who did it and hauled them into court, blooded, bruised, and bandaged. joining us now, nbc news reporter matt wagner, who are these men, matt, and why did they show up in court today looking a lot worse for wear? >> thank you, katy. these were the four suspects we're told by russian authorities perpetrated this bloody attack over the weekend, and i think as we can all see from the videos, they have very clearly been beaten.
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i think it would be reasonable to consider torture may have happened here. one of the very first videos, in fact, that we saw come out over the weekend on saturday, we could see what appeared to be russian security services cutting off the ear of one of the suspects, and attempting to force feed it to him. in another one, we can see a different suspect very clearly beaten, being essentially pressured to admit that he did this for money. we saw them again, two in court yesterday, the rest of the group today, all of them worse for wear, all with swollen faces, broken noses, one of them with a large bandage over his right ear. they were charged with terrorism today. we're told, we're hearing from russian sources that at least two of them did admit guilt. all four of them may have, but i think another thing to note about what's going on with these suspects is three more were arrested by the court today, one of them being the most recently owner of the get away call, the alleged get away car that they were alleged to use to try to allegedly enter ukraine.
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if you follow vladimir putin's version of events, so they arrested formally today for the investigation, the most recent owner of that car, his brother and his father. we're told there are more suspects they're looking into. the court also released 12 nor search warrants today, so this is a very clearly active and expanding investigation. and i think we might see more suspects still. >> isis k claimed responsibility. the u.s. has basically backed that up, saying they warned russia that isis was planning to attack. why is vladimir putin bringing ukraine into this? >> it's a great question. in my estimation, because he has to. one of the things that vladimir putin essentially entered a contract with, a very technical way to put it. the deal between the regime and the russian public is you provide safety and security and we ignore whatever else it is you do. this would seem to be a violation of that, considering that just a week ago, he claimed
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to win his largest electoral victory ever with the largest turnout ever. i think the kremlin is under pressure here to explain this to the public, how could this happen. we're supposed to be safe. you're supposed to make us safe, and everything you tell us is that we're safe. i think ukraine is the easiest option for him on this front, and that's why i think we continue to see him play with this idea that ukraine was responsible. we heard from him just about an hour ago doubling down on those comments though admitting, you know, that this was an islamic terror act, but still kind of suggesting that ukraine has a trace. he uses this word ukrainian trace, but also bringing up the idea that the united states is trying to somehow convince the world that ukraine did not have part of it. he still seems to be playing with the idea that the west is involved. to directly answer your question, ukraine is a distraction from a security failure. >> matt bodner, thank you for that.
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joining us now, counter terrorism analyst, lathal kor rhode island. -- corey. it's good to have you. i think that came off as potentially surprising for people who understand that the relationship between russia and the u.s. right now is almost nonexistent. >> well, i think it was quite a prophetic warning by the united states intelligence community but i think not heeding that kind of intelligence is exactly the intelligence failure on the side of the russians. but let's remember, this attack targeted a soft target where we've experienced that at home in the orlando shooting attacks, so you can find a lot of people into a small space, using very powerful rifles among other weapons, and so i think there would have been very little to prevent it from happening. >> isis k, who are they, and why
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are they attacking russia? >> well, isis k is an offshoot or a king of isis central, if you will, what we know has set up the caliphate in syria and iraq. but about nine years ago, it merged essentially infertile ground, afghanistan, areas that are suffering from political conflict, political turmoil. some sort of war zone and exploit the circumstances for recruitment for collecting and storing weapons, and of course for trying to make it a launch pad for attacks outside of the confines of that country, as, of course, i think in this case, we've seen with the moscow attack, but let's remember, they've already done that in two central asian countries, in kazakhstan, and uzbekistan, and
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isis k has launched attacks in iran. russia was just the bigger target that was garnering a lot more attention for the group. >> isis is the only group out there that seems to have its eyes on everybody and attacking everybody equally. what should we expect from them in the future? i mean, the caliphate was, you know, destroyed. is it at risk of re-forming somewhere? are they potentially getting stronger once again? >> while isis lost the caliphate as ground territorial control, it has extended pretty heavily outside of the confines of the middle east. of course afghanistan is only one case in point, but also look at the west africa regions, look at central africa where they have now been carrying out attacks against everyone from christians to shiites to of course carrying out attacks
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against journalists, carrying out attacks at maternity wards, voting centers, assassinating taliban leaders, you know, bombing in various cities, so, yes, everybody seems to be a target for isis. but at the end of the day, the group is all about gathering as much pr because it's always had, you know, global aspirations, just never going to be contained regionally. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. and coming up, what's got israel so angry with the united states that it canceled its delegations trip to washington? first, though, we are live on capitol hill where speaker mike johnson could be hanging on to his job by a thread. breathing claritin clear is like... is he? claritin clear? yeah. fast relief of your worst allergy symptoms, like nasal congestion. live claritin clear®
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you left congress as of friday, just as that was all going down. i guess that didn't cause you to rethink your decision? >> not at all. not at all. no rear view mirror, happy to move on. dysfunctional place. all kinds of out of control problems, and we focus on messaging bills that get us nowhere. >> it's all about the politics says ken buck. he was saying right there that he does not regret leaving congress early. not even if it makes it easier for marjorie taylor greene to follow through on her motion to vacate speaker mike johnson. the gop's margin is down to two. it could soon be down to just
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one as wisconsin rep mike gallagher announced he's leaving too, resigning less than a month from now. joining us now, "punchbowl news" cofounder, and msnbc political contributor, jake sherman. what a mess, jake? what's happening? >> it's the mess we love, though, katy. no, i think, listen, people look at what's gone on in the house, especially over the last six to eight, you know, today is the five-month anniversary of mike johnson's speakership. since kevin mccarthy left, it's a huge mess. they have to rely on democrats for everything. the decision making is frantic and uneven and unpredictable from the top, and i think people say, listen, i could be doing something better with my life, and i think mike gallagher and ken buck said that. we have a raft of retirements as well in the house republican conference, and, you know, the government is funded, katy, but in the next couple of weeks, the
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next couple of months, we have fisa, the foreign surveillance act that comes up for renew, the faa, federal aviation administration, we know about the problems in the skies the last couple of months, and we have the supplemental, ukraine, israel, taiwan, still have not passed the house of representatives as a package in a way that the president can and would sign. the difficult times, the decision making, the very difficult votes and whipping and all of that is not over yet. we're in the middle of it. >> with marjorie taylor greene saying she's filed a motion to vacate, it's not privileged, which means it's not immediate. she can make it privileged which forces a vote quickly on the matter. is she basically saying to mike johnson saying don't you dare bring up ukraine funding? >> she's basically saying that. the process is she basically introduced the resolution, put it in what we call the hopper. so it's introduced into the house. she could go to the floor at any point, or frankly any member
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could go to the floor at any point and call up the resolution and ask for it to be considered in a privileged nature, which would then trigger a two-legislative day, a 48-hour clock if the house is in session for that to be considered. and then the big question is do democrats try to protect mike johnson and further more, the question is mike johnson even a republican speaker if he stays with democratic support, and that's what a lot of not hard line conservatives, more mainstream conservatives say about being a republican speaker, supported by democrats, so if johnson puts the ukraine bill on the floor, and by the way, he has said publicly and privately, he intends to handle ukraine, israel, taiwan, in some way, shape or form. i don't know that he could survive that. now, again, he could be rescued by democrats. i don't know that he could survive a ukraine vote on the floor with republicans alone. >> are republicans thinking together about what this might mean for november and for the
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next congress or are they just all out for themselves right now? >> two things, in the short and long term. in the short term, this would be a massive fundraising problem if we had a speaker for republicans. republicans would have a difficult time fundraising. behind the scenes, mike johnson has done a ton of work to introduce himself and get republican donors, raising large checks, getting people to give you money is not easy. that's the short term. the long term, not everybody, but a vast majority of congress agrees that this motion to vacate rule needs to be changed. it's not sustainable to have one person go to the floor, file it, and then have a referendum vote on the speaker. it is just not sustainable. i have to imagine if republicans keep the house, if democrats win the house, there will be an effort next congress to not have this be the rule. it wasn't the rule in the past. nancy pelosi changed it. republicans changed it back when kevin mccarthy was running for speaker. it is not sustainable at all. >> this is why she changed it.
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prime minister benjamin netanyahu now says he will not send a delegation to d.c. this week. president biden requested the meeting in a call with netanyahu last week over, quote, deep concerns with a rafah invasion. the cancellation came as a surprise. the nsc spokesperson john kirby called it very disappointing and a little perplexing, especially since the israeli defense minister is currently in washington himself meeting with secretary of state antony blinken and other senior officials. nbc's raf sanchez has the lates tel aviv. >> reporter: there was applause in the chamber of the u.n. security council today as this resolution passed calling for an immediate cease fire during ramadan as well as a conditional release of hostages, but at this point, there is no indication this resolution is really going change the facts on the ground.
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the israeli government is saying it will not cease fire despite this resolution and will keep fighting until hamas is destroyed and until the hostages are returned. hamas for its part welcoming the vote at the united nations but it is not committing to the unconditional release of the hostages, which is what this resolution is calling for. now, this is deepening the already deep strains in the israel u.s. relationship. prime minister netanyahu making clear he is furious the united states allowed this to pass, this they didn't veto it. he is canceling the senior delegation of officials that were supposed to be headed to washington to talk to the biden administration about alternatives for a ground offensive in rafah, in southern gaza. israel says that meeting will not happen now in protest.
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he is, prime minister netanyahu, accusing the biden administration of basically backtracking on its previous position at the united nations. remember on friday, the u.s. put up a resolution of its own which explicitly linked a cease fire in gaza to the release of the hostages. today's resolution does not make that link explicit but the u.s. says there is no shift in the american possession which is that a cease fire and a hostage deal need to be going hand in hand. it is looking at this point like the best chance for a cease fire, for a release of hostages is going to come not through the united nations but through some kind of agreement at those ongoing negotiations happening right now in qatar. that would also bring relief to palestinian civilians inside of gaza. more than a million of whom the u.n. says are at risk of
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it's coming soon. >> to be clear, this is the board essentially saying we need to take a new step. so there are multiple people who are being replaced. first though, let's listen to what the ceo of boeing said to cnbc this morning when asked was this your decision or the board's. he said 100% his. >> why now? i've entered my fifth year. the end of this year, i'll be close to 68 years old. i've always said to the board and the board has been very prepared. i would give them plenty of notice so they could understand and plan succession in regular order and that's what this is about. it's me giving them notice that at the end of this year, i plan to retire. >> make no mistake, this is a company in crisis and a critical component to the united states' economy. five years ago, we were talking about two fatal max 8 crashes overseas. calhoun was the ceo brought in
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to stabilize the company after that. then we had the max 9 door blowout in january and investigations found real problems. here's the house hearing underway. the ceo will leave, stan deal, the commercial aircraft ceo, he's leaving and ed clark, the head of boeing 737 left in february. these are top, top roles within the company as the company is very much in crisis mode with a criminal investigation from the department of justice, faa and ntsb investigations. last week, lester holt asked the faa chief about his experience at boeing. mike whittaker told lester that boeing seemed more concerned with production than safety even after and amid all of these investigations. the pressure is clearly on boeing. lastly, last week, multiple airline ceos asked to meet with
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boeing's board but leave calhoun out of the meeting. so that really was a telling sign about the loss of confidence in the ceo from the airline customers. >> i wonder, tom, we don't have time, but should we watch out to see who he's replaced with and whether that person has an engineering background? >> absolutely. you're right on the money. >> thank you very much. that's going to do it for me today. deadline white house starts right now. white house starts right now. hi there, everyone. how we doing? it's 4:00 in new york. the ex-president's tried and true and all too often successful legal strategy of delay, delay finally met its match today in the form of judge merchon. he will go on trial april

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