happened yesterday. >> harry says that he is filled with nothing but gratitude for his time at nbc, but of course, we are grateful for him, his stories, and his heartfelt writing. congratulations on an amazing career and we are excited for your next chapter of course. teaching a class on curiosity. who better, my friend? on that note, i wish you a very good night, and river to catch my show every weekend starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. see you this weekend. weekend. on a roll, president biden rakes in a record $26 million for his re-election campaign with the help of two of his

popular predecessors. but the star-studded fundraiser is just one reason this may have been the president's best week ever. dnc chair jamie harrison was in the room where it happened and joins me live to discuss how they'll keep the momentum going. a new low. donald trump is under fire for posting violent images of president biden and attacking the daughter of the judge in his hush money trial. david jolly and melanie campbell are here to talk about the danger of donald trump. and cowboy carter. beyonce is the queen of country with a new album that features dolly parton, willie nelson, and miley cyrus. the cultural significance of beyonce's latest musical conquest with danielle smith. i'm jonathan capehart, this is the saturday show. president biden's re-election campaign is shifting into a

whole new gear. he's coming off the biggest political fundraiser in american history at new york's radio city music hall where he brought in a record $26 million. thursday's lavish event featured comedian stephen colbert and two two-term democratic presidents, clinton and obama, who gave his former vice president a glowing endorsement. >> it's not just the negative case against the presumptive nominee on the other side, it's the positive case for somebody who's done an outstanding job in the presidency. >> all that presidential star power has added to biden's massive money advantage over donald trump. even before thursday's historic haul, biden had more than twice the cash on hand as trump. and unlike trump, who's swamped with legal bills and using some of his cash from donors to pay them, biden's bucks will actually be spent on his

campaign. the biden/harris campaign has already launched a new tv spot urging nikki haley voters to choose them over trump. part of a $35 million nationwide ad blitz. >> is not presidential timber. i don't need votes. we have all the votes we need. she's gone haywire. there respect there many never trump pers anymore. i'm not sure we need too many. >> the campaign also unveiled its philadelphia headquarters earlier today. one of the more than 100 field offices opened in battleground states. and it's not just the nation's top democrat who's building momentum, this week in deep red alabama a democrat flipped a statehouse seat by openly running on reproductive rights. her decisive win could be a harbinger of how successful the issue could be for democrats up and down the ballot this november. as for trump, the man hit with

four indictments on 88 felony counts, continues to run on a message of law and order. at the wake on thursday for a new york city police officer killed on duty, he mouthed words in support of law enforcement saying, quote, police are the greatest people we have. never mind that trump has called those in jail for physically attacking police officers during the insurrection on january 6th hostages and has pledged to free them if he wins the white house in november. trump's visit to long island was his first public appearance outside of a courtroom in more than a week. all those cases against him are proving to be very expensive for trump's campaign. "the new york times" reports, quote, trump has averaged more than $90,000 a day in legal-related costs for more than three years. none of it paid for with his own money. trump has a big fundraiser coming up a week from tonight at his florida home, an event his

campaign claims will top biden's $26 million event. no matter how much is raised, according to the associated press, trump's attorneys will get a cut of that money. this won't be like the democratic jamboree at radio city music hall. ap reports the main party favor at the mar-a-lago will be a personalized copy of trump's coffee table book. and don't expect any a-list celebrities. heck, don't expect former republican president george w. bush or trump's vp mike pence to share the stage with him. both have declined to endorse trump. joining me now, jamie harrison, chairman of the democratic national committee. chairman harrison, as always, thank you for coming to the saturday show. so take us inside radio city, what was the mood like? >> it was electric, jonathan. but we were unified. unified in purpose. and seeing those three presidents on the stage, these are the things that popped in my

head. honesty, decency, integrity, those are three servant leaders. and that's something that donald trump doesn't know anything about. these people -- these are people who understand that this country is about hope over fear. it's about progress over chaos. and it was amazing to see them there together unified and, frankly, that is something -- and you mentioned this in your opening -- that's something that you won't see on the republican side. i don't think you're going to see george w. bush on the same stage as donald trump, because people understand that trump has become a cancer for american democracy. and they don't want to be affiliated and to stand up with that. >> so i mean, you just touched on this a little bit, but i'm wondering, politically and nationally, what message does it send that the president has the support of two former presidents but also pop culture icons like

lizzo? >> well, it's just important because people know what's at stake. america's freedom. america's role as being the beacon of freedom and hope not only for the country but for the world, all of that is at stake. and these are presidents who've been in the oval, who have had tough time, and they understand the hardships of having that weight of a country on them. but they also understand that these are unprecedented times that we're in and that we as a country cannot afford to have donald trump, a man who really was at the heart of the insurrection that we saw at january 6th, a man who has said that he wants to be the dictator on day one. a man who believes in immigrants, the blood of this nation. this is a nation built of immigrant, right? >> mm-hmm. >> he is fundamentally against everything we stand for or want to represent in the world. everything that is good, donald trump is contrary to that.

and these two other presidents decided to stand up with joe biden because they know he's a good man. he's a decent man. he's a man that wakes up every day thinking about how to make america best -- better for all of america's people, not just a select few. >> chairman harrison, today, still talking about donald trump, he posted a video online of an image of president biden tied up on the tailgate of a pickup truck. the communications director of the biden/harris campaign responded by saying, and i'm quoting, trump is regularly inciting political violence, and it's time people take him seriously. just ask the capitol police officers who were attacked protecting our democracy on january 6th. i think for good reason we are not going to show the image, chairman harrison, but what's your response to trump doing such a thing? >> you know, this is emblematic, jonathan, of who trump really is. he's a broke, small, thin skinned wannabe dictator who's calling for a blood bath when he

loses his election in november. this is a man who is regularly inciting political violence and people need to understand that these threats need to be taken seriously and we should make sure that this man does not get anywhere close to being able to go back into the white house. and that's why democrats are working night and day to do what is best for the american people. and we are looking forward to november when we will show trump once again once and for all that there is no room in our democracy for his extremist behavior. >> so as i mentioned in the intro, chairman harrison, reproductive rights is still proving to be a very salient issue. just this past week a democrat running openly as supportive of reproductive rights flipped a statehouse seat, and now missouri democratic senate candidate lucas coontz just released a powerful ad about ohio republican senator josh hawley's opposition to ivf. listen. >> after years of trying and

disappointment and struggle and health scare, i just had this beautiful baby, and i held her. and i just like knew i was meant to be her mom. now there are efforts to ban ivf, and josh hawley got them started. >> so how important do you -- am i overstating it? i mean, will reproductive rights be a help to democrats up and down the ballot this november? >> well, jonathan, we saw it in ruby red alabama. we've seen it in kentucky. we've seen it in pennsylvania. we've seen it in florida. and i think lucas' ad demonstrates what we all know, that what americans in every corner of the nation already know, that trump and his maga extremists are dedicated to ripping away the type of procedure that allow women like jessica to bring new life into this world. you know, i'm 48 years old, and in my lifetime we have been

gaining rights up until this moment in which this right wing supreme court ripped away the women's rights to control their bodies. and we know that this is a slippery slope. and we have to stop it. we have to nip it in the bud right here. and that is why this election is so important. and that's why we got to compete in every corner of the country. i don't care if you're the reddest state, the redst district, we need folks to step up, to run for office, and to make sure that this is a core component of their message to the american people. and i think we will win with that. >> okay, i just want to correct myself. i said ohio democratic senate candidate, i meant missouri senate democratic candidate lucas coontz. we're already over time, chairman, but the dnc put out a diss track directed at lara trump, the co-chair of the rnc who released her own music the same day as cowboy carter. we're going to play this real quick, and then -- just play it

real quick. >> lara trump, what's going on? you're running the rnc, but it's a sad song, sad song. fundraising's low, can't meet the mark. republicans losing, it's getting dark. oh lara, lara, what have you done? >> mr. chairman, you've got ten seconds to answer this question. are you worried about trying to upstage beyonce? >> oh no, not at all. but what we want is lara to keep focussing on her music career while we focus on winning elections over at the dnc. the rnc is broke. they're embarrassing, unserious, and they're a big waste of money. >> dnc chairman jamie harrison, as always, thank you for coming to the saturday show. up next, troubled waters, the massive effort to repair that collapsed bridge in baltimore harbor, and the racist response from some on the right. why some are trying to blame a tragic accident on diversity.

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travel to baltimore next week. the bodies of two construction workers who were fixing potholes on the bridge have been recovered, but four others are presumed dead. the men were from mexico, guatemala, honduras, and el salvador. we mourn their deaths and the sacrifices they made. and as the search for answers to what happened continue and the work of rebuilding begin, some on the right are shamefully trying to somehow blame this on diversity. anthony, a republican candidate for congress in florida, wrote on x, quote, dei did this. joining me now, rashad robinson, president of color of change. rashad, as always, thank you very much for coming to the show. that remark by the florida congressional candidate is especially telling since the mayor of baltimore is black, the port commissioner in baltimore is black, in maryland, and the

governor of maryland is black. so rashad, what's going on here? >> what's going on is a strategy to deny opportunities to black and brown people, to people who have been kept out, to close the door to education opportunities, to close the door to government contracts, to close the door to employment. this is part of the strategy of attacking diversity, of attacking inclusion. and attack those things while not talking about things like unearned opportunity, unearned access, the accelerators that allow for privilege to exist, that allow for folks to be in positions that they didn't actually earn. and so what we're seeing with these attacks on leaders because of who they are, it's part of a larger strategy and part of an attempt to turn us backwards. to turn us backwards to a time

where people of color, where women, where people who were not privileged did not have opportunity. >> well, the comments haven't just been racist, like the one we just read, there were also some anti-lgbtq attacks on secretary pete buttigieg. listen. >> secretary pete, pete buttigieg, he's young, he's gay, why do i mention that? because that's how he got the job. >> no human being on earth believes that pete buttigieg, the former mayor of south bend, got his job at d.o.t. because he was the most talented person out there. the president appointed him because he checked a very important box. >> the bottom line with buttigieg is that he's worried too much about personal pronouns, worried too much about dei policies. >> rashad, what's the motivation of those attacks? >> well, once again, the motivation is to distract us from all of the ways in which

diversity and inclusion has -- continues to make our country stronger, that the investments in communities, the investment in actually finding the very best and lifting up the very best for all sorts of positions and not being hindered by someone's gender, not being hindered by someone's race, not being hindered by someone's sexual orientation, being able to open those doors up, right? the folks who have always had a leg up now want to have that conversation. but i didn't hear any of these people having any conversation about unearned opportunity when jared kushner and ivanka trump were inside of the white house with absolutely no qualifications or backgrounds while grifting off of the american people and the taxpayers. so once again, we have to call this for what it is. it is racist. it is homophobic. it is anti-woman. and it is about turning back this country to a time when only some people had opportunities, where only some people were going to be in positions of power. and that simply will not fly as

we move forward in the future. and so, you know, jonathan, i think that for people who are watching this, and they're thinking about how do we tell a new story, right, i think it's also in the language. the stories that we tell about inequality, the inequality that we see is not unfortunate like a car accident, it is manufactured and oftentimes behind every piece of inequality is someone who's profiting, someone who's benefiting so. when you think about this conversation on fox news, think about who benefits and profits from being able to close the door to people of color, to be able to close the door to women, to be able to close the door to lgbt americans. they are about their bottom line, and if they can close to door to all of us succeeding, then it's just more for them and less for everyone else. >> rashad robinson, president of color of change, as always, thank you very much for coming to this show. and coming up, a rare public rebuke from a federal judge.

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we know he tried once not to leave office, and he will have no incentive to guarantee a peaceful transfer of power and to leave office if he's eleblthsed again. i certainly have policy disagreements with the biden administration. i know the nation can survive bad policy. we can't survive a president who is willing to torch the constitution. >> a president who is willing to torch the constitution. former republican congressman liz cheney is continuing to sound the alarm on the dangers of is second trump term. and this week he once again showed just how grave of a threat he poses. as i mentioned earlier, on friday trump shared a video on social media featuring a fake image of president biden bound and restrained in the back of a pickup truck with the truck

adorned with the words trump 2024. we're not going to show you that video. meanwhile, the disgraced former president continues to escalate his assault on the rule of law. following a gag order issued by a new york judge in trump's hush money case, trump lashed out at both the judge and his daughter on social media, going as far as labeling the judge's daughter, quote, a rabid trump hater. it's worth noting that neither the judge nor his daughter is explicitly covered under the gag order. trump's relentless attacks on the judiciary have now drawn a rare public rebuke from a sitting federal judge. on thursday, republican-appointed judge reggie walton spoke out against trump's latest threats. >> it's very disconcerting to have someone making comments about a judge, and it's particularly problematic when those comments are in the form

of a threat, especially if their directed at one's family. if we don't have a viable court system that's able to function efficiently, then we have tyranny. >> joining me now, former republican congressman david jolly. and melanie campbell, president of the black women's roundtable. david, melanie, thank you both very much for coming to the saturday show. david, it's an extraordinary move for a sitting federal judge to speak out in a news interview against trump and his attacks on the rule of law. why is it important to hear directly from a judge on this? >> because donald trump is inciting violence, and he actually arguably is violating the conditions of his multiple bails. you know, if he was any other defendant, he might be thrown back in jail, and his bail be revoked for inciting violence. he is a candidate, he is a former president, but perhaps the u.s. secret service in addition to looking out for him should be looking at him, because we have seen this

before. this is what caused january 6th. in the case of the judiciary, the federal marshals have jurisdiction to ensure the court personnel, the judges and others, are protected. in many ways, though, jonathan, in addition to all of this -- and i'm serious, i think perhaps there should be a hearing on his bail conditions. i mean, we need to see the judiciary, we need to see federal enforcement mechanisms begin to tight ton screws on donald trump for inciting violence, but in many ways he is holding the mirror up to ourselves. this has been normalized not just by republican officials but by republican voter who is decided he will be the nominee of their party. miss cheney's right, he may not leave peacefully if he's reelected. the american people, though, get that decision this november. >> and melanie, trump's team is downplaying that video she shared of a fake image of president biden hog tied in the back of a pickup truck. they've tried to dismiss the

violent rhetoric in the past, but message trump was sending here is pretty clear, isn't it? >> oh, very much so. and as an african american, quite frankly, just the idea of being hog tied on the back of a truck sends chills down my spine with the history of this country. african americans have been attacked in so many way, being hung, drug on trucks. it has a different -- it hits different, quite frankly. >> right. >> and the fact of the matter is, people have said -- i'm not partisan, but facts are facts, people have said they think violence is okay. we are at a turning point in this country on whether we want this democracy. and for african american, the judicial system has been the place we were able to go to find federal intervention historically. >> right and federal protection. >> yes. >> david, the rnc is leaning into claims about the big lie, asking perspective of employees in interviews if they believe the 2020 election was stolen. and lara trump told nbc news this week that the party is past

disputing the 2020 election. that's not really true, is it? >> no. they're past disputing the truth about it, because they've already now accepted this doctrine that it was stolen. perhaps that was a little bit of wordsmithing by lara trump, but jonathan, we saw this in the exit polls from the republican primaries. even when you include people who did not vote for trump -- some say it's two-thirds of republican voters believe that the 2020 election was stolen, and i'm not sure we have come to grips with how much the false election narrative about 2020 is now doctrine among republicans, and there's actually a tenet of their patriotism. that's what makes the november contest between trump and biden so consequential. republicans actually believe false conspiracisies and they consider it part of their patriotism. that is a movement that must be defeated at the ballot box and

defeated strongly. >> you know, melanie, your organization, black women's roundtable, partnered with essence to survey black women. black women registered voters. and the poll revealed that while 55% support president biden for the 2024 re-election, 17% remain undecided or are not voting at all. should the biden/harris team be worried about these numbers? >> yes, yes very much so, because black women, especially around generational line, older black women over 50 are strong on the current president. but younger black women are not. and so there definitely has to be more work done. and whether you're talking older or younger, the economy, cost of living is really high on the list. other issues around rights and freedoms are there, but they don't surpass issues around cost of living, inflation. you can see in our poll they're feeling a little bit better. kwhoen you say what's dissatisfied, the economy, the economy.

so wh they do when they walk in the grocery store matters, right, the cost of what it costs to live. transportation costs. those kinds of things are real for black women. and especially younger black women. >> that's interesting. so any amount of messaging or anything the biden/harris campaign, is it a messaging thing or an i got to feel it at the supermarket kind of thing? >> i think it's both. why don't you lay out what your plan is to address concern, those policy concerns, is one way. >> well, we have unfinished business, because i've got to end this block and go to the break. david jolly, melanie campbell, thank you both, as always, for coming to the saturday show. and coming up, the invisible shield. a new documentary series examines the life-saving role of the public health system and the challenges it still faces four years after the covid-19 pandemic first gripped the

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shedding light on the critical role of public health in saving lives. take a look. >> public health saved your life today but you didn't even know it. virus, pathogens threaten to bring us to our knees. >> we need to tell the story of public health. >> i'm really worried that any pandemic can just -- because we're not prepared. >> the trust level is broken. >> it's the politicalization that's killing us. >> public health is like the foundation of your health, and let me tell you, ours is cracked. >> my next two guests are featured in the docuseries. joining me now, you saw him a second ago, dr. brian, president and ceo of the foundation, and abigail, enrolled citizen of the pawnee nation, executive vice president of the seattle indian health board and director of the urban indian health institute. brian, abigail, thank you both very much for coming to the saturday show. brian, the quote that sticks out to me from the clip that we just

played, public health saved your life today. that comes from dr. josh sharpstein with the bloomberg school of public health. and he says but you didn't even know it. explain to viewers at home how vital public health and its workers are. >> so public health helps every person in every county of every corner of this country almost every day. when you think about driving to work, you're in a safe car. when you get to work, you can actually work there safely. safe air, clone water, all of this is about public health. the problem is we invested and focus on an expensive and expansive healthcare system. it's not medicine that extended our live, it's public health and policy. >> abigail, it's public health and policy, and one of the things that goes into public health and policy is data. you worked to gather data nationally for indigenous communities during the height of the pandemic. you've spoken out -- you've spoken about how the lack of

resources for this community caused real harm, including death. how did the country fail vulnerable populations? >> for example, the seattle indian health board during the pandemic, we were searching for ppe, and the federal government sent us body bags. that was an in my face example of how this country has treated people of color. so we've seen a lack of investment. we've seen a lack of cultural understanding and resources that are meant for our communities and informed by our communities. so what we needed to see instead was the communities leaving the effort. and when we did, for example, in the covid-19 vaccine, we found american indians and alaskan natives got vaccinated because of messages from their communities. african american, the same. same within hispanic populations. when our communities are the ones leading the public health efforts, when they are informing

it, we can ensure the health, life, and well being of them. >> brian, speaking of vaccine, the documentary exposes the widespread mistrust in the united states regarding vaccines and science. what are the ways to address the mistrust and misinformation that's out there? >> well, this is a difficult time, because now some of this mistrust is being fed by physicians who are spreading false information. and so as much as we invested in creating the vaccine, we didn't have a commensurate investment in communicating with the american public. communication has to become a key skill for public health practitioners. we have to start meeting with people, talking to them, not judging, and really focus in on how we communicate the value of public health. and when you think about it, jonathan, things that we would do to save someone's life, right, if there was a young kid in the street and a car was coming, we would risk our own life to get that kid out of the way. but people weren't taking vaccines to save people's lives. we have to communicate why

that's important. >> you know, abigail, public health seems to only come into the spotlight when there's already a crisis. how to we shift our mindset from a reactionary approach to a proactive approach? >> there are examples that can be taken straight from indigenous communities and other cultural communities. the one reason we got our folks vaccinated, and for example, the tribal communities were the first to put in quarantine, face masking. we knew how to do public health because it is who we are. this country needs to take lessons from the communities within it that already had and were doing this already. and we need to make substantial investment, investments that aren't just one year, two year, three year after the pandemic but what does it look like 50 years from now, 100 years from now. we need consistent investment, and we need policymakers to recognize that public health is essential. >> you know, brian, same question to you. >> we have to start talking about public health every day. when we train -- when we teach

our children, they have to learn about public health, when do we actually figure out that our personal health is indelibly tied to our community's health? probably not till college. we see, we play nurse, we play teacher, we play those kinds of things as kids. no one plays epidemiologist. if we want to build strong communities and have healthy people and a strong economy, we need public health. it's the engine that keeps our society going. and so we have to invest in it. dwight eisenhower said that the health of the people is the essence of our vitality, our strength, and our nation's progress. dwight eisenhower, a republican president, got this. and we are still struggling with it. we need to stop and stop immediately the politicalization of public health. there are lots of things to debate about. if we're debating public health, then we're in trouble. >> brian, abigail, the name of the series is the invisible shield, and you can see it on

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blackbird. >> jolene, jolene, jolene, i'm warning you don't come for my man. >> blackbird singing in the dead of night. take these broken wings and learn to fly. >> joining me now, danielle smith, former editor of billboard and editor and chief of vibe and author of shine bright: a very personal history of black women in pop. and there was no one i was going to talk to about this album but you, dan yerl, so i'm glad you were free. so dolly parton has praised the remake of jolene, what did you think of beyonce's take on that country clas snick. >> what did i -- i think the thing is what i think about the entire thing as an album. and i just wanted to say, jonathan, i have four things that i think are important to say. >> go ahead. >> one is, this album, it is an intergenerational, genre-shattering down.

it's a road trip. it's a talent show. and it's an american extravaganza. and it makes a couple of things clear, really four things. one, that race-based musical genre, country, r&b, et cetera, these are artificial categories. with the imagery, the idea of america as a country, it's rural spaces, it's cowboy culture. it's red, white, and blue, it's very flag. those things are not the property of any one group. no matter how loud that group may be. >> woo, those are four -- those are four incredible points. so -- >> it's true. >> now that you've gotten the four points, all right, which one was your favorite track,

come on. >> oh, i have to be honest. it's miley and beyonce. i have listened to miley be beyonce all day. plus, i'm a california girl, and they are singing about smoking cigarettes on the 405, are you kidding me? i could listen to it all day. it takes me back to those great duets of the 1970s, you know what i mean? >> yeah, i know what you mean. enough is enough is one of my favorite songs. i should have known i was gay then. go on. >> exactly. exactly. it just reminds me of these moments of like pure creative and emotional and vocal collaboration. and when these moments happen, man, they are absolutely magical, and they take a lot of work to put together. >> okay, so the name of that track is two most wanted. >> two most wanted.

heavy on the pedal, jonathan. >> yeah, okay, so my favorite, i have two. yaya. >> yes. >> and bodyguard. >> okay, okay, so bodyguard for me is like not like don't love but compared to yaya, yaya is like a mashup. like we're in five different clubs. we're in four different venues. we're in 17 different decades. like we're twerking, we're jerking, like it is -- i could listen to that back to back to back. you could put that on at a party, play it 17 times in a row and then send everybody home tired. >> mm-hmm. you know, the thing that i found very interesting danyel, everybody's been talking about this is a country album. but this is a beyonce album. it has been incredible the number of people who have shot videos, the range of people who've shot videos dancing to

texas hold 'em. a number of people have been listening to cowboy carter on a loop all day long. and how much of a gift it is to them. how serene it makes them feel. as we close out, because i've forgotten how much time we have left in this conversation, but talk about the cultural significance of this album and beyonce being the one who's done it. >> there are new geniuses in this world and in this country and we have to claim them. we have to lift them up. beyonce is that genius. she has surrounded herself with a crowd of geniuses from different races, different generations, different spaces in their career, and she's just wrapped it up in a bow and said voila, for you all. and in these times, man, when

everything can seem so, ugh, tough, you know what i mean some. >> mm-hmm. >> it's just lovely to open a gift and hear these voices that just say welcome. that say love. that say we're all in this together. >> and on that point, the vice president posted a message saying beyonce, thank you for reminding us to never feel confined to other people's perspective of what our lane is. you have redefined a genre and reclaimed country music's black roots. your music continues to inspire us all. danyel smith, you always inspire me. thank you so much, as always, for coming to the saturday show. >> good to see you. >> and that will do it for me today. thank you for watching and be sure to tune in tomorrow to the sunday show when reverend dr. jackie lewis joins us live to discuss donald trump selling $60 bibles during the holiest week of the christian calendar. that's tomorrow at 6:00 p.m.

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