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always meant to be. >> she got to experience that before she left this earth. she got to experience what it was like to be as beautiful as she wanted to be inside and out. >> the dance class where heather spread her wings kept a place for her, a heart with hazor's name on it, a reminder of a woman whose transformation inspired all who knew and loved heather jones. >> is she dancing? >> absolutely, and we believe that. if you believe in angels, there is one dancing up there, i promise you, and every time we have a class, she is dancing. >> that is all for this edition of dateline. i am craig melvin. thank you for watching. ig melv. thank you for watching. hello. i am craig melvin, and this is dateline. >> he was definitely charismatic. >> he was the new kid in town. super popular, all about adventure. >> this kid was awesome.
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>> he just jumped right into the culture. >> he kind of liked to show off a little bit for girls. >> they were the neighbors just down the block. >> they have had their vehicles broken into. she was scared. >> someone had been sneaking into their home, and now someone was in their garage. >> i'm sitting there panicking, and he's coming after me. >> in a flash, it was over. that charismatic kid, dead on the floor. what had happened in that garage that day? >> it was the last person that would come to my mind. >> a neighbor protecting his home, or preparing a trap? >> he makes the statement, it's showtime. >> it's showtime. >> exactly. >> no one would be the same. >> we were all taken aback.
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>> welcome to dateline. he came to america as an adventurous exchange student. but he took one risk too many, and it cost him his life. was his death a case of a homeowner protecting his family and property, or something far more deliberate ? here's josh mankiewicz with a deadly exchange. >> it's a dilemma that confronts every teenager -- how to simultaneously fit in with your friends and rebel against everyone else. that two step is made a little easier by the knowledge and with the certainty that you're going to live forever. >> kids do dumb stuff all the time. >> sneaking out of the house in the dead of night to meet other teenagers to drink, party, or just hang out -- that is nothing new. usually, teens sneak back home safely. this wasn't one of those times.
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>> i thought it was some kind of a joke. i just couldn't believe it. >> i was just freaking out, and i was like, it can't be. >> it was april 2014 12 right foreign-exchange students living in montana slipped out of their home. just moments later, their amazing american adventure came to a sudden and tragic end. >> it was terrific. >> no one ever knew that he would die over it. it was just the worst thing that could have ever happened to us. >> it all began so differently for diren dede. a dream come true. he was an exchange student from hamburg, germany, excited to soak up anything and everything american. at 17, he landed in a special corner of the west -- missoula
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montana. >> dana, anna, and chance were three of his closest friends a big sky high school. >> he was way different than all the other foreign-exchange students that usually come. he was really outspoken and outgoing, and he just jumped right into the culture. >> he wanted to do everything there was to do. >> and he was a terrific athlete. >> it was no coincidence that the teacher who recruited darren to big sky also happened to be the school soccer coach. >> no holds barred, just go get it done. when diren played, that's how he played. i think the guys were immediately liked, this guy is cool. >> he was a pretty stocky kid. he laid people out. >> he was tough, for sure. he threw down. >> according to his friends, diren's soccer skills and his good looks definitely helped him with the opposite . >> he was always talking to
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girls in america and girls back home in germany. >> a man of the world. >> the other soccer girls said that he would never miss a chance to take his shirt off when he was running around the field. they knew he was going to put on a show for him. >> diren lived in the prospect neighborhood, a hilly subdivision of missoula. >> such a terrific kid. you could see that right off the bat. >> he called you mom and dad? >> he did. he really became our son. >> diren was more than just a fun kid . he was engaged in the world. >> this was not your typical american teenager, the kind that wants to talk about sports stars and maybe the latest fashion. it's like, so, what do you think about the situation in the ukraine? >> by the end of the school
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year in 2014, diren had a solid circle of friends. he was tightest with another exchange student, this one from ecuador -- robbie pasnino. >> we have the same personalities and wishes and dreams . >> they were a package deal. >> saturday, april 26, 2014, was no different. the boys spent the evening playing video games and listening to music in randy and kate's basement. >> i went down around 10:30 or so that night, told him, maybe crank the views and music volume down a little bit. >> around midnight, diren was bored and restless and suggested he and ronnie took a walk. >> i am just really tired, diren. he was like, okay. >> while kate and randy slept upstairs, robbie and diren slipped out the back door freight walk around the neighborhood. they headed up and turned into
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deer canyon road. then robbie says diren suddenly walked off in a different direction . robbie lost sight of him. >> i was like, he's not coming. i continue walking. >> robbie says he called out to diren, but he didn't answer. he kept walking thinking diren would catch up . >> that's when i heard someone yell, you are there, i see you there. after that, just the shots. like three or four shots, and then i just start running. >> gunshots in a quiet residential neighborhood. a now terrified robbie ran back home. >> he was faster than i am. i said, he is probably coming. i was almost sure that he was coming. >> with diren wouldn't return. and what happened with the german exchange student would simultaneously make headlines around the world and get
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josh mankiewicz: sunday morning was less than an hour old when the sound of gunshots ricocheted
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>> sunday morning was less than an hour old when the sound of gunshots ricocheted from the prospect neighborhood of missoula, montana. >> 911, what are you reporting? was rare in prospect, but a shooting was unheard of. dash cams captured the chaos as first responders raced to the scene. >> a robbery was rare in lice prospect. a shooting was unheard of. dash cam's captured the chaos as first responders raced to the scene. it was all happening just a few hundred feet from where foreign- exchange student diren dede lived with his host family. >> i heard four loud pops, bang, bang, bang. fairly close together, and then a pause and another bang. >> randy heard the sirens and got out of bed. >> i went downstairs just to
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make sure i could lay my hands on robbie and diren . >> he came downstairs at me and is like, where is diren? >> he said he didn't know. >> he didn't know? >> i thought that was kind of weird. i looked in the rec room and didn't see diren, so i came back and i said, what's going on? where is diren? >> robbie fessed up. he told randy how diren had walked off on his own , and then robbie said he had heard gunshots. alarmed, randy woke up his wife, and the three of them went to deer canyon road. >> how far away from your house is this? >> 80 yards, just the next street above ours. >> so this is a neighbors house? >> when they got there, police stopped them. >> we were hoping that diren would just walk out somewhere and come out the door. >> i walked up to the police
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officer and gave a name and description, and that's when she kind of went, well, just wait here for a second. and then came back and said, i think you guys need to go to the hospital. and that it wasn't good. and that as soon as she said that, i thought, gosh, we just passed an ambulance running up there. and he must have been in the ambulance. >> what happened on that quiet street? did diren and robbie stumble into a burglary in progress? or some violent home invasion? the police asked robbie to answer some questions. while kate and randy rushed to the hospital. >> it wasn't long after we got there at the e.r. doctor came out and explained that his wounds were fatal, and that he was no longer alive. it was horrible. i went outside the hospital many times and just screamed.
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then i -- it was -- we lost our son. >> sorry. when they brought us into identify his body, it was horrific. looking at his beautiful body, no longer complete. that's terrible. i think i screamed for hours. day. >> i thought it was a joke. i thought, there's no way possible. nothing like this has remotely happen to me or anything in missoula growing up. and so it was just -- it was obviously a shock. >> he was just the last person that would come to my mind, i guess. >> diren soccer coach assume that whatever happened to us our player, it wasn't diren's fault. >> i'm trying to imagine, did
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he go to a party and get shot by another kid? was he in downtown missoula and got in a scuffle? i didn't understand it. >> so what did happen? police on the scene quickly concluded only one person was shot -- the intruder mentioned in that 911 call. call. well could scarcely imagine. and cops quickly learned something those who thought they knew diren well could scarcely imagine . diren wasn't a random innocent victim. the young exchange system was the apparent opposite. he was the burglar. >> it's like someone is trying to break into your car right now. >> police were about to your story from the man holding the gun that night. a story of terror and a family under siege. >> we don't feel safe, i'm on the edge about everything. >> two frightened homeowners victimized two times before.
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josh mankiewicz: a high school exchange student from germany just like that had been shot and killed during an apparent burglary inside a neighbor's garage in the quiet town >> a high school exchange student from germany had been shot and killed during an apparent burglary inside a neighbors garage in the quiet
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town of missoula, montana. now, diren dede was dead . and police were investigating. >> does that happen a lot out here? people who shoot burglars in their homes? >> no, it doesn't. >> detective guy baker had the case. soon, he was interviewing the man who pulled the trigger. the homeowner was marcus kaarma . kaarma and his common-law wife had just moved to missoula . they were looking for a quiet, safe, and kid friendly place to raise their child. he spoke with jenelle at the scene and recorded their talk with kaarma at the station. >> what we want to talk about is what happened tonight at your house. >> the couple told investigators the story actually began with a burglary three weeks earlier, and then just 10 days after that, the
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burglars returned. >> somebody had trespassed on their vehicles and been in their garage, which was unlocked. >> cash, credit cards, and a cell phone were taken. the couple filed a police report, but the burglaries remained unsolved. now marcus kaarma said he feared they were being targeted . >> we pretty much been living in fear, and it sucks. to know that we are being watched and targeted, and knowing how hard it is for you guys to actually catch a burglar with no evidence. >> kaarma said they no longer felt safe in their own home and were terrified they would be robbed again. >> we don't feel safe. i'm on edge about everything. >> the couple even emailed their neighbors to warn them about the string of burglaries and to suggest everyone lock their cars and garages. >> having somebody burglarize you is a terrible feeling, and it does leave people feeling violated and angry. >> yes, we agree.
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>> that's not uncommon for people to be upset and extremely vigilant after a burglary. >> the more time that passed with the burglars at large, the more fearful marcus and jenelle said they became. in part because he was a seasonal firefighter, and would have to travel for work. leaving mother and child alone for months. >> she was scared that marcus was going to be going off on a seasonal employment here's. >> kaarma told police his wife decided to put together a homemade security system that would warn them if another intruder showed up. >> she had placed a baby monitor on the east wall of the garage. >> the video being -- once the alert sounded due to the motion detector, they could see with the baby monitor could see. >> all of that was connected to a smart phone app, so when the motion sensors were triggered, an alert would allow them to
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view live video of their garage. that saturday night, kaarma said they were trying to relax after putting their son to bed. >> i have recorded the movie lincoln. we were watching that. about of the third way through that, it was dark outside. but, you know, we went outside and had a smoke in the garage. we didn't usually leave the garage door open to air out. >> five minutes later, an alert from the motions sensors. someone was in the driveway. on intruder. perhaps the same one who had targeted them before. these photos are from the home security system. that's diren entering the garage. marcus kaarma says he grabbed a loaded shotgun he had for protection. >> i'm sitting there with a shotgun in my hand and tearing at the lock on the front door and i can't tell whether it's locked or unlocked. i'm starting to shake at that point. the adrenaline is coming like,
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oh, my god. these guys actually came back to the house. >> kaarma said his wife stayed back while he went out the front door and turned for the garage. >> a few quick steps around the front. pretty much with my butt to my grill guard. that's right stood. and then she flipped on the light. >> kaarma told the detectives he was blinded by the sudden light and realized the only way for the intruder to get away was to go past him. >> then i heard something move, a piece of metal hit the cement. either that, or a piece of metal hit a piece of metal. it sounded like either a metal wrench being picked up, or maybe the axis. >> marcus kaarma said he did the only thing he could to protect himself . >> immediately, i fired high up into the right corner of the garage. here i am, looking at my
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garage. i think in total, four rounds were shot, all directly one, two, three, four. >> if i live in montana, what right do i have to shoot someone with entered my house? >> you have the right to use any force necessary in defense of yourself. no greater force. >> this was a burglar who had broken in, you don't know who he is. you know it somebody that you don't know, and they have crossed that invisible line from outdoors to indoors, and they are -- by that definition alone, i would say, a threat to me. >> well, you got to be able to articulate the threat. >> kaarma told investigators there was a real threat. the garage was full of tools the intruder could grab and use against him. >> i imagine and ask flying through the air and hitting me in the skull. >> kaarma said he was positive he heard that scraping sound just moments before he fired the shotgun. >> in describing the sound when
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i say what i would picture in my head is, i'm going to die. >> to hear marcus kaarma tell it, he had faced down a threat. it was kill or be killed. and that was justifiable homicide. the young soccer star, who was by now in the morgue, must have had a darker side that many didn't see. detectives decided to dig deeper into the lives of both diren dede and the man who shot him. what they learned would only deepen this mystery. >> coming up. >> you are false. diren was committing a crime. >> he was. >> but was diren being the only one breaking the law? >> he said it's showtime. >> exactly. >> there would be anger and astonishment on both sides, when dateline continues. en dat. mom was crying. i was sad.
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welcome back. i'm craig malvin. homeowner, markus kaarma, told police his story that he was living in a state of fear, welcome back. i am craig melvin. homeowner micah's kaarma told police the story that he was living in a state of fear, but his answers raised more questions. what really happened in that garage, and what was diren dede doing there in the first place? to find out the truth, they needed to learn more about their german exchange student. here again is josh mankiewicz with deadly exchange.
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>> when he was killed in a neighbor's garage, exchange student diren dede was just two months away from returning to his family in germany. the man who shot him said he feared for his life, and from diren's best friend robbie, police learned the teen did enter the garage to steal. as robbie described it, diren was not the first kid in missoula to go sneaking into unlocked garages. he said the kids were after money or credit cards or valuables. this stunt happened often enough that it had a name -- garage hopping. and the target was usually there. >> the reason for garage hopping was for kids to go in and find beverages they could easily grab and take. i have not heard garage hopping, no. >> these three friends of diren's say they've never gone garage hopping, but they know all about it.
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>> you all know people who do it? right? i understand it's illegal? >> yup. >> but it seemed harmless? >> yeah. they're like, hey, dude. this is a way to get some extra beer on a saturday night. >> did you think to yourself, how dangerous can that be? >> no one you. no one would be like, don't walk into that garage. someone might shoot you. >> robbie told police that diren had done it for, but never taken cash or valuable property. >> he wasn't a criminal. he was a kid. he was a kid trying to have fun, doing what the other guys do, trying to be part of them. >> was it really that innocent? >> true or false. diren was committing a crime. >> he was. entering someone else's home, even there garage, that's a crying. even if the doors open.
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>> if kaarma's life was threatened, he had a right to shoot, didn't he? but as police went over kaarma's story about what happened just before the confrontation, something stood out. when kaarma was describing how his wife first noticed someone was approaching their garage. >> it was like, showtime. >> he said jenelle makes the statement, it's showtime. >> it's showtime. >> exactly. >> suggesting what? that they've been getting ready for this all night? >> that was a very interesting statement to me. >> it didn't seem to fit with someone claiming to be terrified in his own home. then kaarma told police he took his time going out to confront the intruder. >> he kind of slowly walked over towards the front door, and she's like, hold on, hold on. >> all of which might make you wonder, with all that time to think, why not just stay inside, lock the doors, and
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call police? >> i think the easiest thing that could have been done was once they were where someone was outside, be alerted by the tones of their phone, they called 911. >> well kaarma said he feared for his life, police found no weapon, no acts or tool, your diren's body. the teenager was unarmed. and another red flag. kaarma said he couldn't see into the garage. the cops talked to the doctors who treated diren, and they examined the shotgun pellet patterns on the garage wall. >> he says he can't see anything, yet he is able to track a moving person in a garage and he hits in two out of four times. i didn't believe that he was just randomly shooting from right to left. >> you are thinking to yourself, this does not look like a justifiable shooting? >> know, at this point, it's looking like deliberate
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homicide. >> detective baker delivered the news. >> we just talked to a prosecutor. she wants you to be taken into custody. so that's what's going to happen. >> seemingly stunned, kaarma borrow the detectives phone to call jenelle. call jenelle. josh mankiewicz: he was pretty surprised. guy baker: yeah, he was surprised, and he was very emotional at that point. that's the most i saw markus be emotional >> he was pretty surprised. >> yeah, and he was very emotional. at that point, that's the most i saw marcus be emotional during this whole investigation. >> diren's host parents had a tangle of emotions as a process what police said had happened. >> not the kid we knew. we didn't expect that. >> they were disappointed with diren's actions, but livid with kaarma's.
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>> i just got more angry and more angry that that happened. i mean, who thinks like that? >> just -- why? why would someone feel compelled to do this? >> marcus kaarma faces a deliberate homicide charge for killing a 17-year-old foreign exchange student. >> they were outraged that a homeowner could be arrested for defending his homeowner and property. a crime reporter at the local missoula lien. >> some people were like, of course i can shoot someone in my home. i was definitely in the very beginning of the case. i received angry phone calls from people. a lot of people were afraid that this would intrude on their own right to protect their home with a gun and their own gun rights. >> the german press also follow the story closely. there take echoed the thoughts of many in this country -- that diren was the victim of an
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american cowboy culture that glorifies gun violence. >> they were really incredulous that nobody could just shoot somebody for coming into their house. they just didn't understand how that worked, in montana. >> but this is america -- not germany. are you allowed to protect yourself? your home, your family? is even that on trial now? dogma and kaarma were about to collide. >> coming up. a revealing recording. >> i heard the kid yelling, no! >> to diren plea for his life? when dateline continues. ine co. ( ♪♪ ) emergen-c crystals. [♪♪] if you're only using facial moisturizer in the morning, did you know, the best time for skin renewal is at night? olay retinol24
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josh mankiewicz: eight months after diren dede's death, markus kaarma went on trial for his murder. >> eight months after diren dede's death, marcus kaarma went on trial for his murder . seeking justice for their son, diren's parents traveled from germany to a montana courtroom where they were befriended by the same group of kids who had loved their boy. >> a lot of us got the chance to meet his parents when they came for it, and they were really, really awesome. they were a lot like diren. >>'s parents watched as the man who shot their son face the charge of deliberate homicide. kaarma's defense team, led by paul ryan -- that was outright excessive. >> there was a man who was fearful. >> ryan let out a basic
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narrative. kaarma was the victim of burglars and reasonably thought that diren was another one, and dangerous. >> he thought that he was dealing with drugs seeking type individuals that were erratic and -- who knows how they are going to respond. >> he told the jury his client had reason to believe that diren dede was armed and ready to attack . >> because he felt his life was threatened by the movement specifically, he had to take the steps, unfortunately, to take his life. >> the danger of a burglar is when there's a confrontation, and they all want to escape, and they will do whatever they can to get away. >> the defense said there was no debate over one central fact. diren dede went into that garage to steal. and on the stand, kaarma's lawyer that diren's friend robbie to admit that despite warnings, diren didn't see much wrong with garage hopping.
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>> i think he never felt like it was a crime. >> what you are warning him. you were telling him it was reckless and dangerous, right? >> yeah, yeah. i understand this way, maybe he didn't understand. >> the defense suggested that diren was part of a local burglary ring that was stealing more than just beer and may have been behind the previous break ends at the kaarma house. >> they all knew each other. they all went to big sky. >> defense attorney ryan argued that the police never really investigated those burglaries of kaarma's house, and no arrest. his client was left in a fearful, agitated state. a psychiatrist who examined kaarma diagnosed him as high magnitude stress. >> your body changes dramatically as far as how you are reacting to things. fight or flight. some people may have retreated or call the police or whatever, he came forward and confronted the individual.
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>> his body movement was -- >> kaarma felt threatened in his home and was within his legal rights to shoot. under something called the castle doctrine. >> the legislature has made decisions that shouldn't be easier to defend yourself. you may or may not like the castle doctrine. i never asked you to like the law, and the judge doesn't either. >> defense attorney ryan insisted that marcus kaarma was guilty of nothing more than protecting his family. >> this is your house. you defend your house as you choose to defend it. >> by the time the defense rested, those closest to diren dede say that kaarma's lawyers have redefined what this case was about . >> a lot of the stuff that i heard and read made him sound like some sort of foreigner who came here to disturb and stir the pot and make trouble.
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and actually -- >> and commit crimes. >> right. >> with the prosecutors andrew paul and lauren clark, the real criminals marcus kaarma, it was plain and simple, a murderer. >> the fact is that the defendant was angry and vengeful. he knew that there was a kid coming in his garage. he has his 12gauge in his hand, and he wait. >> to counter the defenses suggestion that diren was part of some ring of thieves targeting marcus kaarma, investigators tracked down the teens who had hit kaarma's garage. the ones who took the cash. and -- >> we found a jar of weed and some alcohol. >> did you know a man named diren dede? >> not personally, no . >> to the best of your knowledge, was involved in a burglary ring? >> no. >> did kaarma really fear for
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his life last night? investigators believe ballistics told the story. the first shot to hit diren was to the back side of his left arm. which means he couldn't of been charging towards marcus kaarma. >> he's got to make that final play. >> the final shot was straight to the head. the prosecutors weren't done. they had what they thought was explosive evidence. just before the trial began, a recording surface, made the night of the shooting. the conversation an officer at the scene had with jenelle. in it, she reveals that just before the final shot, she heard diren back for his life. >> then i heard the kill yell, no, no, please. and then -- but by then, there was already a shot fired. >> the prosecution said that after the shooting, kaarma sounded like a man who is proud of himself . >> there's an article online
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already, and the comments are all in your favor. >> really? >> this is a jailhouse phone call between kaarma and his wife, talking about the news coverage. >> why is he being charged? why are you arresting -- >> will you buy 100 copies or something? >> what did you say? >> record the local news tonight and keep the newspapers from tomorrow. >> he seems to be very proud of that fact, versus remorseful. >> but was this premeditated murder? another witness to the shooting was about to tell her story. >> coming up. a purse left as bait? and one more revolution. >> he said he had been sitting up for three nights with the shotgun. >> a hairstylist is about to provide the most hair-raising testimony of all, when dateline continues. ine continues.
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welcome back to "dateline." markus kaarma's defense had tried to paint a picture of a man exercising his rights when >> welcome back to dateline. marcus kaarma's defense tried to paint a picture of a man exercising his right when he shot an unarmed teenager. now, it was the prosecution's turn to convince the jury that he was a man bent on revenge, and they had witnesses who they thought could show kaarma's actions in a whole new light. here's josh mankiewicz with the conclusion of deadly exchange.
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>> marcus kaarma was on trial for killing an unarmed teenager in his garage. the prosecution was about to argue that not only was the shooting unjustified, it was planned, premeditated murder. to prove it, they put the defendant's wife, jenelle, on the stand as a reluctant key witness. jenelle told the jury the same thing she and the defendant had that all along the lip this they were living in fear of intruders. >> literally every day, i was paranoid. i was looking over my shoulder all the time, and scared and worried all the time. >> so then why did they leave their garage door wide open on the day of the shooting? especially after they had worn their neighbors to keep their garage is locked. >> jenelle said they smoked cigarettes in the garage and wanted to air it out. >> i have the right to have my garage door open to air out for a few minutes.
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>> the prosecution argued that jenelle and her husband left the garage door open on purpose because they were setting a trap. jenelle denied that, but admitted she deliberately left a purse in the garage with items in it that could be traced back to her. the prosecution said that was bait. >> the purse -- here is something traceable. >> an open door and a purse in plain sight. the prosecutors said jenelle and her husband that the stage and then waited and watched, so that when diren walked in, they weren't scared. they were excited. >> showtime. >> on the stand, jenelle denied saying those words. >> you reversing showtime?
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>> no. that's not usually the tone of voice that i use. >> in court, jenelle also changed her story about what she heard in the garage that night. now denying that diren had been pleading for his life . >> then i heard the kid yelling, no, no, no. please. >> what you're saying is you never heard him say those words? >> i have a feeling jenelle didn't do you a lot of favors on the witness and. >> no, she didn't. she denied saying something that could be played on tape. jenelle talks a lot. as a defense attorney, that doesn't often work out very well. >> jenelle was never charged in the case. >> why wasn't jenelle charged in this? >> in her statement, she wanted to catch the burglars and identify them. >> prosecutors say they had no evidence that jenelle new her husband was going to harm someone.
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so what exactly was marcus kaarma thinking? executors brought in two witnesses to support the argument, that the shooting was nothing short of a planned execution. >> he said he had been hitting up for three nights with a shotgun waiting to kill some -- kids. >> she works in the salon were marcus kaarma got his hair cut just days before the shooting. the woman said kaarma came in ranting about his recent burglaries and his chilling plan to fix them. >> i said to him, my gosh, have you call the police? and he said well, the police will not do anything about it. and then he had mentioned that he wouldn't mind if a couple did come by, because he wouldn't mind shooting a couple of them. >> the coworker told the jury she heard it too. >> he was going to kill them. take care of it. >> did he use those words? take care of it? >> i think it was, fix it. >> he said, i'm not kidding.
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you're going to see this on the news. i'm not kidding. you are seriously going to see this on the news. >> that his intent to kill, right? he is announcing it. he's lying in wait, is telling them, you wait and see. >> that the defense attorney's nightmare. >>'s testimony that the client told somebody else, i'm going to commit this crime, and then they are later charged with that crime. >> correct. >> as a child came to an end, diren came together to support his grieving parents. >> we went to support them on those last days. we filled up the stands or the seats with, i don't know how many kids. >> the house became essentially the memorial for diren , and more and more things showed up. so we felt more and more loved than missoula that only probably ever have. you know, just because they were trying to show support for us. >> the jurors had to consider
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the law and nothing else. here's how the prosecution laid it out. >> the issue in this case -- what the defendant believed at the time he shot and killed diren dede was that was the deadly force used necessary? that is your issue. >> jurors went to deliberate, and after eight hours over two days, they returned to court. >> we the jury find the defendant, marcus kaarma, guilty. >> the courtroom erupted in applause and in tears, and while they say the verdict was a relief, diren's host parents still felt the raw pain of his death. >> nothing brings diren back. and so it's just heartbreaking that someone felt compelled to do this. >> would you be host to another foreign exchange student? >> no. my heart is too broken.
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i couldn't do it. >> two months after the verdict, marcus kaarma addressed diren dede's family at the sentencing hearing. >> i took another man's life, and i'm sorry. i can't change that. i did what i felt was necessary to protect my family and myself. and i hope no one else ever finds himself in that position. >> the judge sentenced him to 70 years in prison. >> i almost wish she never said sorry, because it was so empty and his face had no expression. it was scary almost. we were taken aback. i was taken aback like, there was no meaning in that. >> is a garage hopping is no longer popular. >> have the attitudes changed about all that since then? >> i haven't heard a thing about it since then. >> diren's friends are hoping people will forget the one deadly mistake diren made and
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remember instead the bright, charming guy that they loved. >> you are all pretty young to have to go through this. do you feel like this has changed you? >> yeah. >> 100%. yeah. every day you wake up and you think, obviously, something like that can happen. you need to do things that matter. >> life is more precious now. >> he's encouraging us to do a lot of things and i think you still pushing us. >> that's all for this edition of dateline. i am craig melvin. take you for watching. watchin. this sunday, show of force.

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