different executive actions in place, and now we're seeing states trying to put their laws in place. it doesn't change the fact there are more people displaced now than world war ii. >> it's an awful situation in the middle of political year of course. >> and those two i think will continue to be intertwined. >> julia ainsley, thank you so much. >> that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports". follow on us social media @mitchellreports. and you can watch us anytime on youtube, just go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day, i'm chris jar sing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. no room for error. new proof today that in the states that will decide this presidential election, the race could hardly be any closer. polls in five of the seven swing states virtually tied, with the other two nearly as tight. the most critical issue, the

economy. a source of frustration for voters nationally, even as a huge number of those same americans say their own financial situation is actually pretty good. so what's the biden campaign supposed to do with that? we'll talk about it coming up. plus, israel's apologies, doing nothing to stem the global fury over the killing of seven aid workers. the white house calling for accountability are from netanyahu's government, but are harsh words all there is, or will world leaders actually act? and donald trump's last ditch attempt to get the judge in his hush money trial to throw himself off the case. could it work? we begin with what's both the most obvious key to winning in november and also the biggest conundrum. the u.s. economy. we have brand new polling that gives us important insights into just how important it is. even as joe biden focuses his

campaign message on abortion and health care. and donald trump is stoking fears about migrants at his campaign stops. >> it's a border blood bath, and it's destroying our country. it's a very bad thing happening. we will stop the plunder, rape, slaughter, and destruction of our american suburbs, cities and towns. they're not humans. they're animals. we don't want them coming into our country with contagious diseases and they have it. >> trump also said he'll have a statement on abortion next week to which biden respond, you already made your statement, donald. both of those issues, the border and abortion clearly appealing to decided voters, but the new wall street journal poll shows as much as a third of the electorate is undecided about how they'll vote, and that's where the conundrum comes in. while those voters are overwhelmingly unhappy with the national economy, when they're asked about it in their own states, their own lives, they're pretty happy. and statistics show they're

spending money, so what's going on? >> inflation seemed untameable, 9% a few years ago, war in the middle east, war in europe, and we have these two candidates, trump and biden, who many people find uninspiring, and when we asked people how do you feel about the economy, how do you feel about things in general? there's kind after general you could almost say malaise, and people are being asked to pick a choice at a time when the world seems unsteady and uncertain and neither of these candidates seems sure footed and able to guide us into the future. >> so there you have it. well, results from four state primaries yesterday also show how the candidates have left voters as the "associated press" puts it underwhelmed. so garrett, donald trump doubling down, triple down on

his rhetoric. i guess the question is when we look at those polls and how close it is, is the belief that is going to resonate with these swing voters? >> well, chris, i think there are a couple of parts to this. first, for donald trump, that rhetoric is what has worked for him throughout his political career. it's very similar to the way he was talking when he first became a political candidate back in 2015, and he believes both -- it is exactly how he feels about these issues. he is speaking his true feelings on these matters and he thinks it's going to to work a certain extent to basically try to scare voters back into his camp. i have reported on this show before that you're not going to see donald trump trying to reach out and kind of, you know, coddle the nikki haley voting segment of the republican party. he's not going to try to build a bridge for them to come back across into the maga universe. what he's going to try to do is lower their opinion of joe biden and his policies so far that they feel like they have no choice but to come back to him. and on immigration, an issue in which he's the most comfortable

going that dark and deep, you see that kind of rhetoric on the campaign trail. chris, if you look at the polling included in that wall street journal poll, it is to a certain degree working. voters are saying they trust donald trump more than joe biden to deal with border issues. >> i mean, is that the problem really when you think about it, matthew? because so far there's no indication in the polling that what biden is saying about immigration is working, and even when donald trump says things that are arguably racist, that are provably untrue, when you look at this, 52% to 32%, voters think he's best able to handle immigration and border security. >> well, in my mind, the strategy of the biden effort is not to win on immigration. it's just to cut the margin that they're losing on. he doesn't need to win on immigration. he's not able to be beaten by 20 points on that issue, and so cut

the margin, undercut donald trump to some degree. i think in the end as we examine these polls and we're in april of 2024, and we look at this election landscape, the fascinating thing to me is nobody that is willing -- that it will give a prediction today should have any confidence in what that prediction will be because at this point in time it wouldn't be surprising if donald trump won the election and simultaneously it wouldn't be surprising if joe biden won this election when you look at all the polls in all the key states and nationally in the course of this, and this is interesting dynamic of this race to me and it talks about immigration is who is this race going to be about? i think the biden campaign wants to make it about donald trump, and i think the trump campaign wants to make it about joe biden. so they're each going to be pointing their fingers across their chest saying this race is about that person and what the country is. i think right now this is a coin flip race in the presidential race, and we don't normally have

those kinds of race when is we head in six, seven months before election day. >> in fact, nancy, that wall street journal poll does show biden and trump neck in neck in every swing state. the editor told msnbc it reveals that highly unsettled electorate, i mean, is the thought they're going to settle down between now and november. he thinks that at least the indications in the poll are that those who say they're undecided or voting third party will ultimately come home to one of the major parties. >> i think this is a race -- and garrett's going to have his job ahead of him, give a prediction for that, is that this is a race where moments in the next seven months are going to be more decisive than any political advertising that's done by the campaigns or any speeches done by the campaigns. it's going to be moments and their impact. it could be a court trial result for donald trump. it could be an international event. it could be a sense that the

economy is doing better or is doing worse, and then finally, if we have them, the debates could be exceedingly important. so to me this campaign is going to be the pivot on this campaign going from a dead even race to a four or five-point advantage race on either side is going to be decided by many of the unknown moments. >> garrett, feel free to say whether you think that's what you're hearing as well. we do know for democrats, right, they're putting a lot of their eggs in november into the abortion basket. last night donald trump was asked about florida's six-week ban. >> mr. president, do you support the six-week abortion ban that the florida supreme court just upheld? >> we're going to make a statement next week on abortion. we're going to make a statement next week. >> they booed the reporter

obviously in case there's any confusion about that. trump said he's going to put it off until next week. it's not exactly an issue that has snuck up on them, so what's that about? >> two things, first of all, i agree with matthew on the idea that this election could be decided by moments. it's one of the reasons you see trump trying to bait -- that might be enough for them to make a significant inroads and open up this race a little by on abortion specifically, this has long been an issue in which trump has been all over the map. he has taken almost every conceivable position on abortion over the course of his political and private career in business as a sort of business celebrity who remarked on just about everything prior to his political life. of late his campaign has signaled he's probably going to land to try to leave this issue

to the states. which is not exactly a position on the issue of abortion at all. as we sauchb with him when he was president trump and would push things off several weeks at a time. the reality is the abortion politics are not going to change here dramatically, and at some point he's going to either have to make a much more specific set of what his policies are on abortion or have the issue defined for him as the biden campaign has tried to do by pointing out that he appointed the justices who overturned roe versus wade and bragged about it. unless and until donald trump says something different, that will likely be the albatross hung around his neck by the biden campaign. >> garrett haake and matthew dowd. matthew, remember when being a flip-flopper used to be a bad thing in american politics. thank you both for being here. abortion specifically and health care generally is a driving issue for democrats, and today even more specifically prescription drug prices, and this is interesting. it wasn't just the president in

the treaty room of the white house talking about this today. he was joined by bernie sanders, the vermont senator is someone who progressive voters follow carefully and who is often pushing biden to go further to the left. but on lowering the cost of prescription drugs, they are on the same page. >> the very high cost of prescription drugs is not just an individual issue, what you pay. it is a taxpayer issue. it impacts all of us. >> bernie, you and i have been fighting this for 25 years. finally, finally we beat big pharma, finally. >> joining us now the domestic policy adviser to president biden. thanks for coming on neera. look, in a country as divided as ours, the one thing a lot of folks agree on that the drugs cost too much, that big pharma makes too much. we just heard the president declare a win. talk about where the white house believes the progress is and what do you say to voters who

wonder, okay, the costs of some drugs are down, but when are you going to get to my drug? >> we're focused to getting to more and more drugs and more and more drugs that americans really rely on. that's what the president's goal is is to reduce drug costs for all americans. so far we have made significant progress. the president talked about this today with senator sanders, the inflation reduction act, which democrats passed and no republican voted for, gave power to medicare to negotiate drug prices. they are negotiating ten drugs, some of the costliest drugs seniors face, and also they've already reduced the price of insulin $35. that legislation is the law of the land. as i said, republicans want to rip it away. what the president talked about today with senator senator sand because of the action with this administration, other legislation we've passed and investigations launched by senator sanders, today we now

have three of the four companies that produce inhalers committing to inhalers for asthma, 27 million americans rely on inhalers for asthma. consumers pay $35 per inhaler when they buy it at the counter. so this is a big accomplishment, but it's really from the pressure the president, his administration, and others like senator sanders have placed on pharma because they know they can't just get away with inordinate prices any longer. >> this is something you're doing. look, "the washington post," however -- let me just fact check. republicans did not vote for this, but "the washington post" says polls have shown that most voters are unaware of democrats' efforts to lower drug prices, so i mean, look, you have an event today at the white house and arguably bernie sanders might draw the interest of some

progressives, but why hasn't what you've been saying, the president, democrats, have been saying resonating and do you have to change your messaing on this? >> well, i think most importantly we've held a series of events over the last two weeks to get the message out. that's also why it's important for us to talk with reporters, to engage with you and others to really demonstrate the impact. the president had a person introduce him today, chris garcia. chris garcia pays $160 for one inhaler and $60 for another inhaler a month. those inhalers cost basically $5 to make. that's just too much cost for people. they don't have the breathing room. the president really focuses on prescription drugs because he knows this is a cost people are bearing. sometimes seniors are taking one pill instead of two. he understands the pressure that is, the lack of breathing room people have.

that's why we're going to keep talking about these issues because we know they matter. we hope that reporters will keep covering them because we know they matter, and that's how we get the word out to the country, and of course i'm sure there will be a campaign. i'm not speaking to the campaign. i'm -- i'm detained by the hatch act here, but i know the campaign, imagine the campaign will be running plenty of ads on this issue going forward. >> neera tanden, thanks so much, appreciate you coming on the program. in 60 seconds, will israel do anything as global outrage grows over the deaths of seven humanitarian aid workers in those air strikes. will president biden? we're live in tel aviv. will president biden we're live in tel aviv you'll never truly forget migraine, but zero-migraine days are possible. don't take if allergic to qulipta. most common side effects are nausea, constipation and sleepiness. qulipta. the forget-you-get-migraine medicine. (vo) if you have graves' disease... qulipta. ...and itchy eyes, the truth may be even more uncomfortable.

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apparently now galvanizing opinion in a way that even the deaths of more than 200 other aid workers and as many as 32,000 palestinians hasn't. part of it may be the outright rejection in many corridors of israel's claim that the strike was a tragic mistake. >> this is really tragic and not normal. i think we had to say that. i heard prime minister netanyahu in his statement say these things happen in war, no, they don't. >> world central kitchen founder jose andres who nancy pelosi nominated for a nobel prize, echoes the skepticism. he writes prime minister netanyahu has said of the israeli killings of our team, it happens in war. it was a direct attack on clearly marked vehicles whose movements were known by the israel defense forces. the op-ed, by the way, is also in an israeli publication in he

hebrew. for joe biden it adds pressure to put conditions on aid to israel even as the administration pushes to send more military assistance, including 15 fighter jets. joining us now nbc's raf sanchez reporting from tel aviv. geoff bennett is co-anchor of pbs's news hour and an msnbc political contributor. hagar chemali is former spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the u.n. and former syria and lebanon director at the white house. it's good to have all of you here. raf, they have done a preliminary investigation into what went wrong. what do we know, and what questions are still unanswered? >> reporter: a lot of questions still unanswered, chris. here's where things stand right now. the head of the israeli military, the chief of staff of the idf says that this preliminary investigation niends what happened here was a case of misidentification, that israeli aircraft believed that these

humanitarian vehicles posed some kind of threat. he said this mistake, repeating that word mistake, happens at night in a complex wartime environment. he says he is committed to a transparent investigation, and that the israeli military will publish its full findings once that probe is completed. the big question, though, still outstanding, how can it be that world central commission communicated the movements of that convoy to the israeli military ahead of time and yet was still struck, those seven aid workers still killed. our unbelievable bli courageous crew inside of gaza went to the coastal road, and they went to each of those three ruined vehicles, the kind of charred remains still lying there. what they found is that this was three separate air strikes.

they took part -- they happened over the course of a 1.5-mile stretch of that road, and so what did not happen here is a case of these vehicles being in the wrong place, wrong time, all bunched together, they somehow got caught in the cross fire as the israelis hit a hamas target. each of these vehicles appears to have been struck very precisely by israeli aircraft. if the israelis believed it was some kind of hamas vehicle they would strike it. precisely what is not clear is what happened that led them to believe that. that is one of the many questions being asked by the white house, by world central kitchen and by the families of those aid workers. they're bodies just crossed over from gaza into egypt beginning the long journey home. chris. >> so hagar, that really is the key question so many people are asking, right? how did this happen. how 'cause the same organization that was able to do what they

did in syria, taking out the iranian national revolutionary guard members, very sophisticated operation, extremely targeted, do this to? what's your question and will israel get to the bottom of it? >> well, israel might get to the bottom of it whether we see the full details of that investigation is another story, how much they publicly share is another story. the fact is that democratic governments and professional militaries are supposed to have the communications and protocol system in place to prevent these types of trageies or accidents or however -- whatever happened, they're supposed to have a system in place to prevent it. when netanyahu came out and said this happens in war, listen, i handled the syria war at the white house. this does happen in war, but it should not have happened in this war, and the reason for that is that you're not dealing with a murderous dictator or brutal

regime. you're dealing with a democratic government with a supposedly professional military. what this all tells me is that the idf is utterly sloppy, lacks values and discipline and clearly has significant disfunction to the point where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing in moments of emergencies or where somebody who has a trigger doesn't know what's going on. when you've got something like what happened in damascus, that was clearly very planned, very targeted. they had an opportunity that presented itself and a reason for which they went after that iranian top commander. you've seen this in the gaza war already. part of it is the -- as you mentioned, over 200 humanitarian aid workers who have already died, but you also had, for example, the story where three hostages were killed by accident, by a troop on the ground. that, again, it reflects a sloppiness, a lack of discipline, a lack of values, and just dysfunction that

shouldn't exist this a professional military under a democratic government. >> we are hearing, geoff, as you know, from leaders all around the world, president biden has said he is outraged and heartbroken by this incident. it is also some people critically point out, not the first time we've heard him say something along those lines related to gaza, but as richard haass pointed out on "morning joe," so far that hasn't resulted in a change in policy. here's what he said. >> at some point the words become empty and the biden administration is very close to having reached a point where their criticism of israel is too much for the same people who criticized chuck schumer, but it's not nearly enough to affect the course of what is going on. that is the worst of all possible worlds. >> is there any sign from the white house on capitol hill that this incident could be a turning point in the u.s. approach to israel? >> not yet, chris. not at least as it comes to applying conditions to u.s. aid

to israel with some democratic lawmakers have suggested. we've seen president biden criticize israel's handing of the war, to implore israel to stop the civilian casualties. the relationship between president biden and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is as complicated as it is long. these two men have known each other for some 40 years back when joe biden was the junior senator from delaware and netanyahu was actually here in this country working his way through leadership in the israeli embassy here in washington, d.c., and the two rose to power through parallel tracks. so the reason i raise that is because president biden is someone, he's an old school politician who believes that the personal relationship accounts for a lot. and so over the last few weeks and months, there has been this question of is his level of influence limited? how much sway does he actually have where the israeli

government is apparently ignoring his pleas and protestations. it has as much to do with netanyahu's long willingness and calculated willingness to really ignore his american counterpart rather than accommodate him, chris. >> to follow up on that point, within israel we're seeing massive protests against netanyahu. last night police used water cannons to break up a riot. today families of the hostages disrupted a meeting of the ka ka nus set. does any of this from what president biden has to say, to what we're seeing to canesset on the streets of israel and frankly, the comments in the last 24, 48 hours from world leaders any indication you see

benjamin netanyahu cares about what anybody has to say or do? >> i don't want to sugar tote cote it for you, chris. i don't expect a lot to come from this pressure, which is going to reach a fever pitch for an immediate cease fire, even if it's temporary. what you're going to have in gaza immediately unfortunately is that the hunger crisis is going to get worse because world central kitchen and many other aid organizations have suspended their operations. you have as you pointed out, you have the families of hostages who have been really quite -- have been increasing pressure on the government for a while now and have been very unhappy with netanyahu and his priorities and his lack of prioritizing the release of hostages. so this pressure is now going to reach fever pitch, especially you saw it from the white house yesterday with president biden's statement. what i have seen in my experience in working with the israeli government and i worked very closely with the israeli government, is that international support, while they are very grateful for international support, the psyche of the israeli government is not one that feels that it

exists because of of international support. it feels it exists because they're out there on their own and that is a psyche that has been built in since world war ii. i don't blame them for that psyche. when you hear president biden and you heard former president trump say this to israelis, you risk losing international support, i don't believe that that will be a very compelling talking point. the talking point that needs to be made is we care about your long-term stability and security, and we're telling you this because we care and because the united states is an important friend to israel, and israel does know that and values that, and the aid that we give to israel could become conditional, and the biden administration doesn't want to risk congress going down that path. so for israel's sake, netanyahu needs to listen to that pressure and both sides hopefully the pressure will increase to the point where both sides reach a cease fire, even if temporary, immediately. >> hagar cemali and geoff

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donald trump's lawyers are undaunted trying once again to stop his hush money trial before it even starts.

they're launching a new legal bid to get the judge off the case and push the trial off indefinitely. trump's legal team arguing that judge juan merchan has a conflict because his daughter has worked for a political firm linked to joe biden. this is the second time they've tried this, and it did not work last summer, so it's unclear how it might work now. paul butler is a former federal prosecutor, georgetown law professor and msnbc legal analyst. lisa rubin is an msnbc legal correspondent. okay, lisa, can you explain the trump team's argument here and whether there's anything to it? >> so i can do my best, and i'll play an advocate for them right now as to why they're renewing this. they did move last year for judge merchan's recusal, on the basis that judge merchan's daughter is the leader of a political digital strategy firm that among other clients has the biden/harris campaign and done work for congressman adam

schiff. their argument at the time was that historically that firm had made a number of arguments that were sort of antithetical to president trump, that it had advocated for people who were his political enemies and as such, there was a conflict between her and them, such that the judge himself needed to recuse. that's because new york statutes call for recusal where somebody who's a sixth degree relative, not just a first degree or a second degree, up to a six-definitely relative has an interest that would be substantially affected by the case. the ethics board of new york state said there was not a problem. they are now saying they have new information about her political activities from that point to date. however, in the premotion letter that think sent him earlier this week, they are still not drawing a direct nexus between her work and any campaigns that the firm has been involved in that have created digital fund-raising

solicitations, for example, premised on this manhattan indictment. if they do that on the other hand, i think they will have been able to show changed circumstances. will it be enough to show that she has an interest that's substantially affected by this case. it's a different argument than the one they made last year. >> trump's lawyers tried this last august and failed. the judge checked with the state ethics board. everything's okay. trump's lawyers say again, as was just pointed out, that things have changed. the d.a. says they really haven't. what do you say? >> the ethics committee said that no reasonable person could think that the judge's daughter's job would bear any influence on trump's case. that was true last year and it remains true today, so there is zero chance that the judge will recuse himself. this is nothing but a do-over,

but again, nothing significant has changed. it seems like a bunch of effort to throw a bunch of paperwork at the prosecutors to distract them for preparing for trial which is less than two weeks away. >> so just so we understand what happens now, is it solely up to the judge whether this warrants recusal or not? >> yes, not only is it solely up to the judge, this isn't even a motion for a recusal. they already made that motion, so they'd have to get special permission from the judge to bring a new motion. i think he's likely to deny that. chris, this is another example of trump lending his criminal cases and presidential campaign, his trial will be over in early summer. there will be months to go before the election. if trump is convicted, he will need to explain himself as the first convicted felon who's a major candidate for president. he will probably use the judge's

refusal to recuse himself as a talking point and claim that the judge was biased based on his daughter's job. the gag order is going to expire when the trial is done so trump would then be free to attack the judge's daughter at will. >> paul butler, lisa rubin, to be continued as we always say. thank you both. and coming up, the three major hurdles now confronting former president trump in arguably the most crucial battleground state. steve kornacki standing by at the big board for us to break it all down next. d for us to breakt all down next. (restaurant noise) introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis allison! over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required.

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judge levins out, the city council in eed any, oklahoma, who was revealed to have white nationalist ties. not only did voters given him the boot, judd blevins lost by 19 points. more people turned out for the recall vote than the initial election last year. that's according to unofficial results from the oklahoma election board. blevins will be replaced by cheryl patterson, a former teefrm who campaigned on a term to normalcy. it's the tipping point state, wisconsin, arguably the most important of all the battlegrounds for joe biden, at least according to jim messina, the guy who helped barack obama win re-election.

donald trump held an event there last night. his campaign billed it as the launch of his general election effort. easy to understand why when you look at the last two presidentials, when wisconsin was decided by less than 1%. but can trump do what he couldn't do the last time he ran against biden, which is win it? nbc's steve kornacki has been looking at the political geography of the state. i know you've identified three big hurdles confronting trump in wisconsin. >> you're right on the significance, a lot of electoral college scenarios run straight through wisconsin. just as a reminder, joe biden did win the state in 2020. look how narrow it was. 6/10 of a point, that's about 20,000 votes. the difference between biden and trump, and while this was a difference overall from four years earlier when trump won it, it wasn't a huge difference. take a look at that map from 2016 when trump won. it was razor thin, 7/10 of one

point was it was about 23,000 votes. there was a net shift of about 43 -- excuse me, about 43,000 votes between 2016 and 2020. that was the difference between trump carrying it and biden carrying it. so the three areas we're talking about here where trump kind of lost the state for trump in '20, he needs to make improvements in at least some of them if he's going to have a chance. let's take you through them quickly. the biggest barrier he's got and the hardest one he's going to have making any progress with is right here, dane county, the state capital, university of wisconsin is here. this county is getting bigger by population, and it's getting bluer and bluer in its politics. you can see in 2020, biden won this by over 52 points over trump. compared to 2016, still overwhelmingly blue. that was 47%. democrats are squeezing more and more, bigger and bigger margins

out of dane county and demographically it just fits the profile of the anti-trump voter. you can expect, if anything, i think, democrats have a chance to do even better in dane. that puts the pressure on trump to find other improvements elsewhere on the map. where might he look? one area that's critical to him, we talk about the suburbs, we talk about how trump has struggled in the suburbs given away a lot of ground there. this is a big one outside milwaukee. trump won it by 21 points in 2020. look at the trajectory. this is 2020, here's 2016, trump won it by 27. mitt romney was winning this county by nearly 35 points in 2012, all the way down to 21 in 2020. so this is a big suburban county, and with trump, republicans are winning it, but they're not winning it by the margins, nearly the margins they used to in the past. this is the kind of place where

trump's got to improve. i think that's critical if he's going to flip the state. critical for democrats if they're going to keep him from flipping the state. a number of small mid-sized cities. brown county where green bay is, lacrosse county, places that donald trump made big gains in when he won the state in 2016. i'll show you brown county here. let's go inside. donald trump in 2016 won this county by 11 points. that was a big shift in the republicans direction. this is where green bay is. this a big part of the reason trump was able to win wisconsin in 2016. trump won it again in 2020. he only won by seven points. double-digits down to 7 points. this was a place of growth for trump in '16, regression in '20. again, there's a number of counties like this around the state, and they start to add up. again, for trump, he's got to stop the slide and move closer to his 2016 levels in counties like that, brown county where green bay is, suburbs of milwaukee, mid-sized cities,

small cities. those are the places trump has the opportunities to reverse the result in 2020, that's where democrats need to stop him. >> fascinating stuff, steve kornacki, thank you. when your boss calls after hours, do you feel like you have to pick up? and will california make it so that you can ignore the boss. we'll explain that next. and in our next hour, a disaster scene in kentucky, tornados tearing through the state, ripping roofs off of homes and where cleanup efforts now stand. that's coming up. s now stand. that's cinomg up i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.

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we are now a step closer to an appeals court decision on whether texas can enforce the controversial immigration law that gives state and local law enforcement the power to deport undocumented migrants. an attorney defending the rule admitted on the record texas lawmakers may have gone too far when passing it. nbc's ken dilanian is following this story. so, ken, what are the other takeaways from today, and what happens next? >> chris, that same lawyer for the state of texas also is accused of rewriting the law from the lectern when he put forward the idea of instead of deporting migrants, texas police could send them back to u.s. customs and border protection facilities at ports of entry thereby complying somewhat better with existing supreme court precedent. it was kind of a mess for texas.

these same judges had already raised constitutional questions about this law in the injunction phase, now they're hearing it on the merits. there's one conservative judge on this three-judge panel that appeared sympathetic to texas. the other two did not. what happens next, assuming that this appeals court declares that this law is unconstitutional, it undoubtedly will be appealed to the supreme court which ruled back in 2012 that immigration is a national function, not a state function, but this does give the conservative supreme court another chance at the issue to tinker around the edges and modify, and see if there's things that states could do. the general argument from the u.s. government, the biden administration, you can't have 50 separate immigration policies, the federal government needs to enforce immigration law. a texas plant at cal main foods which is the country's largest egg manufacturer is shut down today after chickens tested positive for bird flu. the virus is wreaking havoc elsewhere too.

last month, a baby goat contracted it on a farm in minnesota after living with infected chickens. it spread to entire cow herds in texas and kansas, and usda found more sick cows in idaho yesterday. what does this mean for people? right now, there are two confirmed human cases in the u.s. and the cdc says the risk to humans remains low. now to a major new bill proposal out of california. a democratic lawmaker is pushing for a disconnect for workers from their bosses when they're not on company time. nbc's emilie ikeda dug into the movement and the politician behind it. >> reporter: as the digital age blurs workplace boundaries, there's a push to give employees the right to ignore e-mails, texts and calls after hours. >> calling me on my day off is beyond me. >> reporter: while similar laws have already been enacted in some other countries, california could become the first u.s. state to require employers to give their workers the right to

disconnect during nonworking hours, unless explicitly noted or in the case of an emergency, violations could be punishable by a fine. >> it would be nice to not even have the stress of thinking someone might call you. it would be probably good for your mental health. >> reporter: california assembly member matt haney penned the bill. >> you shouldn't because you have a smartphone be expected o work 24/7 without consenting to that. >> reporter: the overlap of work and personal life has been turbo charged by the pandemic. pew research reports the majority of workers respond to messages outside of their normal hours, at least sometimes. 28% do so often. >> i understood what i was signing on for. >> reporter: john ferrari makes himself available on the clock for a tech start up in silicon valley, but says he gets flexibility in return.

>> i'm contacted on a regular basis, often multiple times a day, and we operate our company like a family, so i'm available whenever my family needs me. >> emilie ikeda with that report. that's sure to spark the lot of discussion. you know, there's always the, oh, my battery died excuse. coming up, tragedy overseas, taiwan got rocked by the strongest earthquake it has seen in 25 years. we've got an update on the desperate search for survivors ahead. survivors ahead.

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. it's good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, new accusations after that deadly strike on aid workers in gaza. what we're now hearing from world central kitchen including the emotional comments from its founder, chef jose