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so as trump looks to make immigration the central issue of this next election, it's important to remember what america's immigration system really looked like under donald trump and how much is still left to repair, things like the unsafe open air camps near the southern border where migrants including children are left in the hot desert for days. last night a federal judge who consistently ruled against the trump administration's treatment of migrants ordered border patrol to try to solve that problem by providing safe and sanitary housing for those migrants. one of the things donald trump might try to do in a second term is shutdown that judge's ability to help those migrants. he tried it in his first term, and he's bound to try again. that is our show for tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. right now there is no higher priority in gaza than protecting
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civilians, surging humanitarian assistance, and ensuring the security of those who provide it. israel must meet this moment. with regard to our policy in gaza, look, i'll just say this. if we don't see the changes that we need to see, there'll be changes in our own policy. >> that's u.s. secretary of state antony blinken laying out president biden's latest message to israel following a tense conversation with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we'll have much more about yesterday's phone call and the future of u.s. policy straight ahead. meanwhile, there's a new development in the race for the white house. it's now looking less likely that there will be a serious third party candidate this year. we'll tell you about that. plus, we'll bring you an update on donald trump's legal issues including the new york attorney general trying to dig deeper into the bond that was
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posted earlier this week on behalf of the former president. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this friday, april 5th. we made it to friday. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin this morning with president biden's warning to israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the two leaders spoke by phone yesterday for roughly 30 minutes. their first conversation since the israeli air strikes that killed seven food aid workers in gaza. the white house says that the president told the prime minister that israel simply needs to change its approach to gaza with immediate action and that future u.s. support for that country depends on it. secretary of state antony blinken who was listed on the call gave more details about the
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conversation yesterday while appearing in brussels. >> the president emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable. he made clear the need for israel to announce a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers. he made clear that u.s. policy with respect to gaza will be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action on these steps. he underscored as well that an immediate cease-fire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians and he urged prime minister netanyahu to empower negotiators to include a deal without delay to bring the hostages home. >> following the biden-bibi phone call israel committed to opening more aid routes to gaza
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saying it'll use the port for direct assistance and open a crossing to allow aid to reach the territory. israel is also committed to increasing the amount of deliveries from jordan into gaza but no timetable for this is spelled out. according to it national security council the steps announced by israel, quote, must now be fully and rapidly implemented. meanwhile, house speaker mike johnson is criticizing the president over conditioning aid to israel. in a social media post johnson wrote this. the president's ultimatums should be going to hamas, not israel. biden should not undercut our ally amidst an existential threat by conditioning our support. meanwhile, johnson himself has been blamed for not bringing an israel aid bill to the house floor. now, israel has been on high alert this week due to threats made by iran in the wake of
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monday's strike in syria that killed members of iran's military wing. the israeli newspaper reports that israel has intensified the blocking including population centers like tel aviv and jerusalem. last night a spokesman for the idf confirmed the military was responsible for signal jamming done to throw off gps navigated drones or missiles iran or proxies might fire at the country. iran blamed israel for the strike in syria monday and has vowed to respond. we'll have much, much more on the situation in the middle east in just a moment. but here back at home president biden while juggling that crisis will also travel to baltimore today to receive an operational update on the francis scott key bridge collapse. in addition president biden will meet with some of the victim's families during his time there in maryland. since the accident last tuesday crews have been working to clear the wressage, and the federal
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government has provided $60 million in relief funds to the state. biden has been pushing for congress to fully foot the bill to rebuild the bridge as the port of baltimore is a major hub for the entire u.s. economy. joining us now white house reporter for bloomberg news, akala gardener. good to see you this morning. let's begin with the trip to baltimore. biden has said he wants the federal government to foot the entire bill for the bridge repair and the work that needs to be done to reopening that port. give us any sort of timetable as to when that reopening may happen, but also how is the white house trying to get these federal funds authorized? >> yeah, that ask was formalized today. the office of management and budget director shalanda young sent a letter to the heads of the committees in the senate and house asking to cover 100% of the cost here. and this is a major issue potentially even within the maryland delegation just because
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we know so many things in congress, there's just simply so much disagreement it's been one of the most unproductive houses probably in the history of the country really. and so they're trying to find consensus and build consensus, and i think that's exactly what we're going to hear president biden pushing today while he's on the ground in baltimore he'll be receiving an operational update about the cleanup efforts there. he'll be with governor moore and the u.s. department of transportation head, pete buttigieg. and they're going to be really pushing for that funding. and of course biden is also meeting with the loved ones of those seven or six people that were killed in this tragic collapse as well. >> you mentioned maryland governor wes moore, he'll be a guest with us on "morning joe" in a couple of hours. let's turn back to the president's phone call yesterday with the prime minister of israel. pretty clearly the toughest language yet from the administration to the prime minister, suggesting the current situation with not just the air strike that killed these humanitarian workers but
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suggesting israel simply has not paid enough mind, has not taken enough steps to limit the number of civilians killed there in gaza, but will these tough words be followed up by actions? the president has been criticized a lot this week including some of his closest allies for not doing enough to to stand up to netanyahu. what do we think happens next? >> i think this was really the starkest language we've seen come out of the white house it comes to israel. and frankly, after covering this conflict for many months now, not language we thought we'd ever hear. this is the first time we'd see them placing condition on israel and stop fighting so conditioned be better and the catalyst for this was really the deaths of the world central kitchen workers. we saw jose andres really saying his organization took all the right steps here to be safe, and yet his workers were still killed here. but i think something really interesting to me from the
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language yesterday we heard trum the white house is this an immediate cease-fire before it was automatically attached to that hostage deal, but now they're saying they want that immediate cease-fire to also just simply reduce fighting, reduce civilian harms, make conditions better for humanitarian workers because we're seeing now humanitarian aid organizations including world central kitchen leaving because they fear for the safety of those workers, and they do not want to see the harm and the famine that is really looming there continue. >> we heard from the white house yesterday this real fear of imminent famine. lastly and briefly we heard from national security spokesman john kirby and other officials say these changes need to happen very, very quickly. is there any sense as to the timetable what israel will follow through on what they've agreed? >> they have not put a strict timetable on this. we know israel is conducting a preliminary investigation of those deaths that have happened, but we see the white house is
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saying they're watching this very closely. they're going to be using their own assessment. they're not just going to be taking israel at their word here. and at the end of the day they're conditioning their support in some ways, i don't know how much of that is actually going to impact military aid, but that is certainly something to watch out for. >> all right, white house reporter for bloomberg, thank you for starting us off this morning. we'll have much more on the situation with israel and gaza a little later in the show. next up here on "way too early," the no labels group has announced it's abandoning plans for a third party presidential ticket. we'll tell you what the organization's national director had to say about voting this november. plus, amid increasing threats, election workers want the biden administration to do more to protect them. we'll bring you some new reporting on that. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back. sports and weather w right back
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welcome back. to politics now. and after months of trying, the centrist group no labels is now ending its effort to field a third party presidential ticket. the move comes as the group failed to find any candidates to lead it. it worked to gain ballot access across the country and claimed today have done so in 21 states before their long shot bid for the white house ended. in a statement no labels ceo and co-founder nancy jacobson writes this. no labels has always said we would only offer our ballot line to a ticket if we can identify candidates with a credible path to winning the white house. no such candidate emerged, so the responsible course of action is for us to stand down. the group was spurred by at least a dozen candidates during its recruitm efforts from chris christie to senator joe manchin to governor chris sununu. and here's what no labels national director told fox news when pressed to name a candidate
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that he'd vote for in november's election. >> no labels was looking for a hero, and a hereo never emerged. >> who are you going to vote for, joe? >> who am i going to vote for? well, no labels itself is a c4 organization that doesn't advocate for or against political candidates. you know, we were merely securing -- >> you have two prominent and maybe robert f. kennedy. the choice for you as a person. >> me as a person i would vote for biden than for trump. >> there had been real fires in the biden camp a no labels candidate would draw from his pool of support. that no longer the case, but we still should expect some third party candidates to be out there. cornell west, jill stein, and most notably robert f. kennedy jr. and a concern from both parties as to their impact. meanwhile, as election season ramps up, there are
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growing concerns for the safety and well-being of election workers. this as they face increasing threats and are frequent targets of disinformation. nbc news homeland correspondent julia ainsley brings us more. >> election workers calling on the biden administration to do more to protect them ahead of november. in philadelphia commissioner omar severe says he and his staff have received threats every year since the 2020 election including this phone call. >> we want from the federal government more resources to protect our election workers and to protect our election officials. >> reporter: he says part of the problem baseless claims from former president trump like these. >> guard the vote. and you should go into detroit, and you should go into philadelphia. and we've got to watch those votes when they come in. when they're being, you know, shoved around in wheelbarrows and dumped on the floor.
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>> reporter: around the country election officials reporting physical threats, even receiving fentanyl in the mail. biden administration officials tell us their hands are often tied by free speech protections. nbc nfs david noriega. >> we work closely with state and election officials as well as law enforcement community to ensure the integrity of the election process, to ensure the physical safety of election workers. >> reporter: but experts say dhs under the biden administration is doing less than the trump administration did to alert social media companies about online election disinformation. >> there's been a real pullback since 2020 in sharing that information. >> our thanks to julia ainsley for that report. this is an important story line, one we're going to be following between now and november. next up here we'll turn to
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sports. and it's been a simply awful start to the season for the new york mets, but they did finally pick up their first win yesterday. we'll show you how it happened, and we'll tell you about the new home -- temporary one, for one of baseball's oldest franchises. all that plus a check on the weekend forecast when we come right back. eck on the weekend forecast when we come right back ahh. it's a good day to cough. oh no. bye, bye cough. later chest congestion. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! not coughing at the movies!? hashtag still not coughing?! ahh! mucinex dm 12 hour doesn't just quiet coughs, it treats coughs caused by excess mucus at the source and controls them for 12 hours. it's comeback season. stubborn chest congestion? try mucinex 12 hour. -remember when i said we need to screen for colon cancer? -was that after i texted the age to screen was now 45? [both] because i said cologuard®!
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opening in the ballpark 0 and 5, hitless through 7. feels like rock bottom. >> that was play by play announcer garret cohen on the state of the play yesterday as the team looked headed for another loss. you saw that depressing tableau, but the tide turned in the next frame. to tie the game in the bottom of the ninth and bret brady reached a walk, advanced to second, and
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then outfielder tyron taylor did the rest. >> 3-2 coming to taylor. and hooked, base hit down the left field line! here comes batey around third. he will score, and the mets have their first win of the season. >> you've got to believe taylor brings home the winning run on that walk off single and the mets end up splilting that doubleheader. that win leaves the miami marlins as baseball's only remaining winless team. elsewhere in baseball this season will now be the last for the a's in the city of oakland. the team has announced it will play at least three years in the minor league ballpark in sacramento before it's planned move to its new home in las vegas. as part of the temporary arrangement with sacramento the team will not include a city name in its branding. it'll simply be known as the
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a's. this will mark the 56-year tenure in oakland. such a good town, a good story franchise. i know sacramento is not that far away, but we'll see. that las vegas deal still not officially done. turning now to the nba and new playoff hopes for the philadelphia 76ers. boosted this week by the return of returning joel embiid. using a run to close the game and tighten up the eastern conference playoff race. now all they need to do to avoid the play in tournament it keep winning. it ranks some of the weakest in it league with four of their final games against below 500 opponents and the last three coming at home. to college hoops now. the pirates scoreded the final 9 points of last night's title game to rally past indiana
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state. they were blocked on two three-point attempts. congrats to them. they win 79-77. meanwhile the ncaa tournament action resumes tonight with its final four. this is going to be a lot of fun. number one overall south carolina takes on third seated nc state. that's the first game before a showdown featuring caitlin clark and number 3 yukon. the winner of tonight's game will play for it final four. time now for the weather and weekend forecast with meteorologist angie lassman. >> good morning to you. we made it to friday. it's looking a little bumpy on the coast. we've got some snow showers lingering across parts of the north east. the middle of the country looks great, clear skies, quiet. we'll be actually quite warm for that section of the country. out west we've got another storm system we're going to track to bring more snow and rainout
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there. today it's the showers and the snow that we expect across parts of california and the north west. then as we get into tomorrow especially saturday plans for the central plains, these stronger storms are possible to develop into the afternoon hours. we're looking at mainly the hail and the strong wind gusts, but a couple of tornados not out of the question. as we look ahead to the weekend, big picture that snow will be across parts of the rockies. there's those storms i just mentioned. much of the eastern half of the country is going to be quiet. you'll notice it's a little cool and breezy for folks especially on the north east. we might see a couple of snow showers sticking around for parts pof new england and then see showers and thunderstorms work their way farther to the east, but nice conditions on sunday across the east coast. if you're looking ahead to that big event we're all talking about, of course the eclipse that's happening, here's the deal as far as your forecast is concerned. new mexico to the midwest we'll see mostly sunny conditions. notice the cloud cover specifically dallas. i know that's a big spot folkserize excited about to
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watch the eclipse. places like cincinnati and little rock we'll see a little bit more of the cloud cover and a little mix of sunshine. but overall we're going to see a couple of rain showers for our friends in the south, and then this is really the place to be. if you're looking at it in the north east, jonathan, we'll likely see some nice conditions, too. not the best, couple of clouds in the picture but hopefully we'll all be able to see it. >> that eclipse that afternoon. we'll have more about that. still ahead on "way too early," we're going to bring you much more on president biden's phone call with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the potential shift in u.s. policy towards israel following the air strike that killed seven humanitarian workers. we'll be right back with that. humanitarian workers we'll be right back withha tt. you didn't live this strong, this long to get put on the shelf like a porcelain doll. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can build new bone with evenity®. ask your doctor if you can do
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the president made clear that -- that absent changes in the protection of civilians on the ground, absent changes to the volume of humanitarian assistance getting in, absent -- absent any movement on a cease-fire that will allow hostages to get out and more aid to get in, absent, you know, a calming down, that he will have to reconsider his own policy choices with respect to gaza. >> welcome back to "way too early." it's now 5:30 a.m. on the east coast, 2:30 out west on this friday morning. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. that was you just heard white house national security council spokesman john kirby weighing in
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yesterday on potential policy changes towards israel following the deadly strike earlier this week that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in gaza, a tense phone call yesterday between president biden and prime minister netanyahu. joining us for more on this national security reporter for politico alex ward. i've lost count how many bylines over the last couple of years you and shared. first, let's get your impressions as to what happened yesterday. for some democrats and this is a long time coming president biden using this tougher language with prime minister netanyahu. there's a lot of pressure now to follow through with action. we're seeing israel saying they're going to make changes, opening up new aid routes and the like. what doyou make of the call yesterday, and what will you be watching for in the next few hours and days of the prime minister? >> here's many more bylines. in terms of what the administration is looking for, they're giving israel eight hours and days, i mean that's
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the quote from kirby to make these changes on humanitarian aid and perhaps to see a change in the way israel's conducting the war in rafah and other places. what we've seen israel already do is open up and they say they'll allow more trucks to come in from jordan into gaza. that's supposed to plus up the humanitarian support that comes in and help the millions of people in gaza needing foods and medicine. now, that's sort of the hours part. the days part is still what we don't know. that's probably going to do with a plan from rafah that can be other aspects. but what we also don't know is what the u.s. plans to do as a measure if israel doesn't meet what biden. >> certainly suggested conditions could be attached, but didn't spell out what those conditions were or what would trigger them.
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so, alex, you mentioned rafah, i mean the operation there still loom, not quite sure of a timetable. so that's part of this, too, is what sort of commitment is the u.s. going to ask from israel in rafah but also just gaza wide to try to finally limit civilian casualties. >> well, there's one general ask, which is that israel should not move into rafah and first not do a big operation, but first should not move into rafah until conditions on the ground are met to protect enough civilians. where israel has a more time-based. we don't know exactly when but after ramdan and it's warmer they'll move in. we saw the israelis were saying, look, it can take us only four week or so to remove the 1.4 million palestinians in and around rafa and get them to safety. where the biden administration said it would take them four months to satisfy what they're
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looking for. that's a pretty wide gap. could they compromise and maybe give them two months, i don't know. what they have to narrow that gap before anything moves forward. >> now turn to the war in ukraine. russia carried out a series more early morning air strikes this time on the city of kharkiv are as the foreign minister attended the nato gathering in brussels. give us a quick sense as to what the latest from gnato in terms of supporting ukraine but also where things stands in this war as ukraine desperately awaits u.s. help and ammunition? >> two things jumped out from that nato summit. one is you saw secretary of state antony blinken say ukraine will be a member of nato at one point. that's as unambiguous language you can find. no pathway to u.s. membership at this point, but that is the goal to make ukraine a member, which of course would not make vladimir putin happy. also to have an effort of 100 or so billion dollar or euro fund
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to support ukraine. and this is interesting. this is part of the quote-unquote trump proofing. there's the contact route which allows the allies to work together and provide weapons to ukraine. they're worried the trump administration would not allow those funds to go to kyiv and so nato would take over this u.s.-led group and provide that support. in terms of where we are in the war, it's very clear that ukraine cannot hold as it wants, hold the line as it wants without the aid coming from the united states. we've seen speaker mike johnson consider a way how to maybe move this forward, but of course we have the mtg hanging over his head, so we'll see what he does there. the real consensus is ukraine with that aid cannot hold its lines, and with it, it can at least hold and perhaps even push forward. >> certainly some dire reports coming out of ukraine, though, about the current status if they don't get that help. the right man to steer us through all this national
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political reporter alex ward, we'll talk to you again soon. still ahead on "way too early" we'll turn to a look to cnbc for what's driving markets this morning following the dow's worst day since march of last year. plus why disney plus executives are telling consumers to let it go. be grateful i didn't try to sing that. we'll break down the company's new streaming policy that follows the lead of its rival netflix. "way too early" will be right back with that. x. "way too early" will be right back with that
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>> exactly. that is the key metric for the markets today. at this stage, though, the expectation suggests we'll see jobs growth coming in at 200,000 for the month of march. that would be actually lower from the reading we got in february at 275,000. however, if the number does prove to be correct, we would still be looking at a very strong labor market. so let's see what the final reading will be. we know that there's a lot of focus on it particularly, john, because at this stage there's a lot of uncertainty what the fed will do this year when it comes to rate cuts. market expectations still suggest we'll see three rate cuts this year. however, the recent commentary from fed officials suggest we'll we're not going to get any red cuts this year. so let's see whether this nonfarm payroll figure will actually provide clarity to the markets in terms of how and where the fed will move in terms
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of rate cuts this year. >> yeah, so much expectations as to what the fed will do. we'll keep an eye on that. more stories for you, silvia. we now have a clearer idea when the disney plus password sharing crack down will begin. tell us about it, please. >> the ceo of disney bob iger was speaking to our colleagues state side, and he did say they will start cracking down on password sharing around june in some markets, and then more broadly in september. now, we know this is part of a trend, john. hulu has done it, netflix has done it. and when it comes to netflix in particular, by doing so they have proven this actually boosts their earnings. so this is an important strategy for the company. however, if you're a subscriber that is not very good news for you if you're using someone else's password. >> and lastly spotify reportedly going to get more expensive this year. what's the latest? >> exactly.
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so according to a bloomberg report it does seem spotify will be increasing their prices this year in the united states but also in the u.k., in pakistan, and australia. we could be looking at higher prices of 1 to $2 for the subscription, the premium subscription services, of course. i'm afraid this might not be the news you wanted on a friday, but there you have it. we might be paying more for spotify as well in the later part of this year. >> password crackdowns, price hikes, bad news from silvia amaro but we appreciate it all the same. still ahead here the new york attorney general does not appear to be satisfied with donald trump's bond in the civil fraud case. we'll get analysis on that and important new developments in the classified documents case also facing the former president. we'll be right back with all of that in just a moment. n just a .
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welcome back. to trump legal news now. in the former president's civil fraud case in new york state, attorney general letitia james is seeking more information about the $175 million bond that trump has posted. james' office is asking the company that underwrote trump's bond to submit paperwork in the next ten days demonstrating it can make good on the money should trump lose his appeal. that could mean the company will disclose information about what trump used as collateral. the bond, which was posted monday, has at least temporarily stopped the new york a.g.'s office from potentially seizing some of the former president's assets. so we're also following the new developments this morning in donald trump's classified documents case down in florida. judge aileen cannon has denied trump's bid to dismiss the case, rejecting his argument that the documents he took to mar-a-lago
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after leaving the white house were considered personal under the presidential records act. but the ruling did leave open the possibility the defense argument could be used later on. the ruling also comes just a day after special counsel jack smith blasted judge cannon's request for jury instructions pertaining to the use of the presidential records act, contending it would essentially result in the jury being told to accept trump's defense right from the start. the judge stated in her ruling yesterday of smith's demand she decide the issue now is, quote, unprecedented and unjust. the trial is scheduled to begin may 20th, but the judge has repeatedly indicated the date will be pushed back and has already asked both sides to submit new proposed dates. both sides did so back in late february, but judge cannon has not yet ruled on it. trump, of course, has pleaded not guilty to counts. joining us now here live on set state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg,
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just down the road from where this case is happening. so let's start there. give us your impressions as to what the judge did yesterday in terms of denying the presidential records act as a reason to dismiss the case but leaving it open as a possibility for defense. >> i don't think that judge cannon did jack smith any favors because it would have been better for him i think just to dismiss it outright and let jack smith appeal it to the 11th circuit court of appeals. she can use the jury instructions that considers pra as a matter of law that overcomes the espionage act. there's nothing in the law that says that. her interpretation of the pra is erroneous. because it's not a final ord, because she just asked the parties to engage in discussing the jury instructions, there's nothing to appeal yet. jack smith is in a bit of a trick box. he wants to essentially call the
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judge's manager but the judge has to approve it first, and she hasn't done so yet. >> you've said the tone of special counsel smith's filing shows he's right up against the edge, basically he's fed up with what he's heard from this judge and he might even consider going to the 11th circuit court and try to push them to remove judge cannon from the case. do we think there's a possibility that could actually happen? >> judge cannon has given jack smith reason to do so, but it's a high burden to reach. if he thought he could get her removed he would have done so. he may try to file a motion to prevent donald trump from using this pra defense at trial, and thus it wouldn't appear in the jury instructions. we'll see what happens, but then judge cannon has to hear the motion and rule on it and she can do a bunch of things to hurt jack smith here. he's in a bit of legal burgatory here. he can't really appeal that
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order so he's going to have to find other means. maybe the motion to recuse the judge is the option he chooses. >> certainly the expectation the start of that trial will be delay asked some believe it won't even happen before november's election. while you're here let's go back to what we reported with letitia james and the bond put up for donald trump. what do you make of that strategy? what could we learn? >> the bond required was put up by a guy named hanky, mr. hanky, which makes me laugh. he's like a one off. he's not used to being involve in thibusiness, and he is someone who wanted to help donald trump. and so letitia james is saying wait a second here, normally you put up cash. and instead donald trump has put up assets that are favor. you may not even be capitalized properly. she's going with the court. she wants more information, and we'll see what happens. there's a woman named barbara jones, a former federal judge, she's the overseer of the company appointed by judge
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engoron, paid for by donald trump, and she gets access to a lot of this information. one way or another, we're going to find out more about mr. hanky and his company and where he's coming from. >> dave aronberg, we appreciate you coming up here this morning and laying it out for us. have a good weekend. up next on "way too early," donald trump is set to host a golf tournament this weekend for the saudi backed liv circuit amid new questions surrounding the former president's business and political ties to the nation of saudi arabia. we'll get into that. and then coming up on "morning joe," a tense phone call between president biden and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu ends with an american ultimatum. what the president says will happen and israel declines to change his approach in gaza. plus, a member of the foreign relations committee, democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut will join the conversation. and also ahead as mentioned earlier, maryland governor wes moore will be a guest ahead of president biden's trip to
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welcome back. despite constantly complaining that it's his court appearances that are keeping him off the campaign trail, donald trump is set to host another golf tournament this weekend. this one for a league funded by the saudi arabian government. at trump doral in miami, florida, amateurs and professionals will tee off later today for a liv golf event. it comes as questions persist about conflicts of interest regarding trump's political and business relationships with saudi arabia. which just happens to be where he made his first foreign trip as president, to riyadh. according to "the new york times," trump also recently spoke with saudi crown prince mbs for reasons that are not yet clear, and the same wealth fund gave $2 billion to an investment firm run by trump's son-in-law jared kushner just months after the family left the white house. joining us now, conservative commentator and msnbc
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contributor, charlie sykes. good morning, thank you for joining us this morning. give us your impressions here. how concerned should americans be about the nature of donald trump's relationship with the saudi government? this comes at a time where he of course has been accused and charged with mishandling classified information as well as a moment where the man could use some money and the saudi crown prince has lots of it. >> well, this whole story is a reminder, you know, that behind all of the dictator for one day and felonies, there's always the grift. it's always about money for donald trump, and this story has three elements that i think are really fascinating. number one he had his hotel business tanking, he's increasingly dependent on his golf business, and the golf business is increasingly dependent on people like the saudis. you know, and to your point, o -- you know, the more donald trump gets pushed in the corner, the more he is likely to reach out to his foreign buddies, the ties with saudi arabia being the
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most dramatic. so how concerned are we to be? you know, very concerned. especially this conversation that he had with mbs. look, the biden administration is working on a middle east peace deal and donald trump may be opening a back channel. and of course jared kushner may be opening a back channel that is financial as well as political. with donald trump, you just simply cannot disentangle his business conflicts from everything else. and so, yes, i think people ought to be alarmed. i think people ought to be concerned about his relationship with the governments of china, with vladimir putin, with viktor orban, and of course with mbs, who by the way, let's remind our listeners is actually a murderer. he actually, you know, killed an american citizen, and unfortunately appears to be getting away with it. >> the u.s. intelligence believes mbs ordered the killing of jamal khashoggi a few years
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ago which he was not condemned by president trump. the world is watching donald trump here now just a few months from the election. he stands about a one in two chance of being president again. we're seeing nato take steps to create a fund for ukraine that trump couldn't touch. we're seeing concerns about policies he might have towards china, other places. talk to us about how the world is watching this election right now, charlie. >> the world is alarmed and they ought to be alarmed. we just had the 75th anniversary of nato, and i think nato is realizing that the clock is running. the clock is running on american leadership in the world. it's hard to overstate what it would mean for the global situation if somebody like donald trump gets into office. i mean, a green light for vladimir putin, maybe a green light for china with taiwan. maybe the end of nato, as a
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cohesive unit. so they are deeply alarmed, and i think they have every reason to be. >> so, charlie, we're about seven months, almost exactly, from the election. there's a lot on president biden's plate right now with the situation in gaza now being very much at the forefront, this tough language and this phone call with prime minister netanyahu. what are some of the things that he needs to do both domestically and in foreign policy that will help him win reelection? >> well, he's got to somehow, you know, fix the policy with israel and gaza because what he's been doing so far apparently has not been working. he's been trying to pressure benjamin netanyahu who apparently is not listening, and netanyahu has a long history of doubling down with his policies. so he's got to resolve many of those things, but, again, he's going to have to prosecute the case against donald trump. he's also going to have to
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continue to show that he is up to the job. it's interesting that the narrative has shifted away from, you know, some of the hand wringing from earlier this year. but i think he's got a lot of -- about his age and his capacity and everything, but i think he's got a long way to go to be able to do that. however, i do think that some of the polling would suggest that more and more americans are coming to grips with something i think they have been in denial about, that this was going to be a rerun of biden versus trump. they didn't want that rerun but that's what they're going to get. >> and now we'll have to see how americans feel about that choice now that it is right in front of them. msnbc contributor and author of the book "how the right lost its mind," charlie sykes, thank you as always. have a good weekend. and thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" with us on this friday morning and all week long, "morning joe" starts right now. truth social, you have seen
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